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Jordan Peterson, also known as the stupid persons smart person.

An interesting article on who he and his followers are and why his funny conspiracy theories are retarded.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/science/2018/feb/07/how-dangerous-is-jordan-b-peterson-the-rightwing-professor-who-hit-a-hornets-nest

I once saw him kill three men in a bar with a pencil.

WITH A F**KIN'...

PENCIL.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
I once saw him kill three men in a bar with a pencil.

WITH A F**KIN'...

PENCIL.

From a skim, few details on exactly "how" he distorts. It mainly seems to assert that he's a well meaning true believer that's feeding others who want to do a lot of harm.


The article also clearly says where it's loyalties lie, by legitimizing expertise in "gender identity, post modernism, and canadian law". A layman is as likely to argue for these things, as against them. And restricting such topics to "experts only" effectively creates an intellectual monopoly that resists division (Would an expert undermine one's own position by arguing against themselves? Would, say, a Christian expert argue against Christianity? Maybe, if they became disillusioned after intensive study, but not likely..)

Originally posted by cdtm
From a skim, few details on exactly "how" he distorts. It mainly seems to assert that he's a well meaning true believer that's feeding others who want to do a lot of harm.


The article also clearly says where it's loyalties lie, by legitimizing expertise in "gender identity, post modernism, and canadian law". A layman is as likely to argue for these things, as against them. And restricting such topics to "experts only" effectively creates an intellectual monopoly that resists division (Would an expert undermine one's own position by arguing against themselves? Would, say, a Christian expert argue against Christianity? Maybe, if they became disillusioned after intensive study, but not likely..) it also mocks his outdated use of discredited pseudo Science and failure to understand Canadian law.

Jim Jefferies owns him so badly on gender and race its painful to watch and Jefferies is the comedian most famous for the highest use of the c word.

He's no more dangerous than morons too stupid to properly use terms like fascist, nazi, and alt right.

I think the Jim Jefferies ownage is particularly telling the true tale.

Not that dangerous, tbh.

Originally posted by MythLord
Not that dangerous, tbh.

Also while it is said a lot that he attracts a lot of alt right fans...if you believe what JP says, he's gotten many emails from people who said they moved away from the extreme right due to listening to him.

Yeah it's always weird to me that the people who universally reject identity politics on principle repeatedly over and over again as kinda one of their main points get labeled alt-right when the anti-identity politics stance is literally antithetical to what the alt-right believes.

How dangerous is anything from Canada, really? Trudeau's fake eyebrows are the most dangerous thing from Canada.

Sorry, not trying to derail. It's the weekend and I leave politics for the week. Also, love the sig Whirly.

Stay Whirly

Originally posted by Badabing
How dangerous is anything from Canada, really? Trudeau's fake eyebrows are the most dangerous thing from Canada.

Sorry, not trying to derail. It's the weekend and I leave politics for the week.
Stay Whirly Haha, much as we laugh about Canadians check out a guy called Dave Leduc, under Lethwei rules, the most violent stand up rules in the world, bare knuckle, knees, elbows and headbutts... I shit you not, this Canadian is King.

Thanks re the sig Bada, yours are always top notch too.

https://youtu.be/CExAc67Q-1E

Come on, JP talks outside his area all the time.

I haven't put much stock into what I've heard him say, but I don't know enough about him or his ideas to call him dangerous.

He's a gateway to the right for ****tards tbh.

Meanwhile, down the rabbit hole:


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Not what I was expecting from a video titled "Jordan Peterson Dismantled."

If I were to create a scale to better understand danger I'd say a rabbit is less then a 1, david duke is like 5 and jordan peterson is a 10, he's right up there with lucifer. Hurry and innoculate his ideas from the internets and youtubes.........with MOAR Vox and Buzzfeeds!

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Jordan Peterson, also known as the stupid persons smart person.

An interesting article on who he and his followers are and why his funny conspiracy theories are retarded.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/science/2018/feb/07/how-dangerous-is-jordan-b-peterson-the-rightwing-professor-who-hit-a-hornets-nest

Dangerous enough for you to make a post about him.

Originally posted by cdtm
Shep just "happened" to record that.

Have to give it to her, she's a genius. Surprised this hasn't happened sooner.

She had the good sense to record it, can you imagine if she didn't? Dipshit SJW's galore would call her a liar(even though we're supposed to believe the wamen).

I'm not saying she is dumb, but she isn't a genius...she just showed common sense given the era we live in.

It's like if I live in an area with a high amount of robberies...I'm not a genius by taking precautions and locking my house up when I go out.

Originally posted by Surtur
She had the good sense to record it, can you imagine if she didn't? Dipshit SJW's galore would call her a liar(even though we're supposed to believe the wamen) Haha so Incel.

Originally posted by Surtur
She had the good sense to record it, can you imagine if she didn't? Dipshit SJW's galore would call her a liar(even though we're supposed to believe the wamen).

I'm not saying she is dumb, but she isn't a genius...she just showed common sense given the era we live in.

It's like if I live in an area with a high amount of robberies...I'm not a genius by taking precautions and locking my house up when I go out.

More then good sense. This was a career making gambit. By the audio, it's obvious she was playing to an audience, and has aspirations of tapping into Jordan Peterson's schtick.

Originally posted by cdtm
More then good sense. This was a career making gambit. By the audio, it's obvious she was playing to an audience, and has aspirations of tapping into Jordan Peterson's schtick.

How is it obvious she is playing to the audience? She sounded like she was more or less dumbfounded at the direction the convo was heading in.

You're acting like she masterminded this when the reality is she just recorded two moronic SJW's who shouldn't have jobs in education in the first place.

Yeah it's not like she was playing lectures by him, she was playing a clip from national TV

What this thread really needs is another person to say how they're not subscribers to "identity politics", so here it is I guess.

*Steps off from imagined higher ground*

Originally posted by Surtur
How is it obvious she is playing to the audience? She sounded like she was more or less dumbfounded at the direction the convo was heading in.

You're acting like she masterminded this when the reality is she just recorded two moronic SJW's who shouldn't have jobs in education in the first place.

Which clip is this that you guys are talking about?

Originally posted by dadudemon
Which clip is this that you guys are talking about?

You know the girl who played a clip of Jordan for a class and then got b*tched at for like 40 minutes by some teachers/administrators..including them saying that playing the clip neutrally was akin to playing something by Hitler neutrally?

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Yeah it's not like she was playing lectures by him, she was playing a clip from national TV

"Am I supposed.to shield them from the world?"

In a voice distinct enough for tv. Even spices it up by breaking down in "tears".

And then goes on to create her own Youtube channel.

But it's the universities predictable response to provocative content that made this gambit possible.

Originally posted by cdtm
"Am I supposed.to shield them from the world?"

In a voice distinct enough for tv. Even spices it up by breaking down in "tears".

And then goes on to create her own Youtube channel.

But it's the universities predictable response to provocative content that made this gambit possible.

It's a valid question, *is* she supposed to shield students from the world?

Also just to be clear, are you saying you think she set this entire thing up?

I love it when Jordan starts talking tough about fighting. You look at him and just know if you butted him he'd roll around on the floor bleeding and crying.

You have some violent impulses.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
I love it when Jordan starts talking tough about fighting. You look at him and just know if you butted him he'd roll around on the floor bleeding and crying.

Indeed, imagine trying to talk tough on the internet. Nobody who is truly tough needs to do so.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
I love it when Jordan starts talking tough about fighting. You look at him and just know if you butted him he'd roll around on the floor bleeding and crying.

I think he does that to support the persona that he's the traditional man's man type. He doesn't look physically formidable at all though.

Originally posted by Surtur
It's a valid question, *is* she supposed to shield students from the world?

Also just to be clear, are you saying you think she set this entire thing up?

Oh, absolutely. She knew exactly what would happen if the topic was "lgbtq" and "Jordan Peterson." Why else would she secretly record the thing.

The clincher is her current career as an alt-right personality. That's not an accident.


I won't go so far as to say the "complaints" were fake, but if her goal was Youtube stardom, it wouldn't surprise me.

Originally posted by cdtm
Oh, absolutely. She knew exactly what would happen if the topic was "lgbtq" and "Jordan Peterson." Why else would she secretly record the thing.

The clincher is her current career as an alt-right personality. That's not an accident.


I won't go so far as to say the "complaints" were fake, but if her goal was Youtube stardom, it wouldn't surprise me.

Wait, now she's alt right?

Originally posted by Surtur
Indeed, imagine trying to talk tough on the internet. Nobody who is truly tough needs to do so. I'd kick his teeth down his throat as easily as I'd kick yours down yours. It's not talking tough it's just how it is.

Originally posted by Robtard
I think he does that to support the persona that he's the traditional man's man type. He doesn't not look physically formidable at all though. He doesn't, he is frail a strong wind would knock him over.

Originally posted by cdtm
Oh, absolutely. She knew exactly what would happen if the topic was "lgbtq" and "Jordan Peterson." Why else would she secretly record the thing.

The clincher is her current career as an alt-right personality. That's not an accident.


I won't go so far as to say the "complaints" were fake, but if her goal was Youtube stardom, it wouldn't surprise me.

Wait, she subscribed to JP and then became an Alt-Right talking head? For real?

The plot thickens, or nature just running its course... dun dun dun

Originally posted by Robtard
Wait, she subscribed to JP and then became an Alt-Right talking head?

The plot thickens, or nature just running it's course... dun dun dun Peterson is what he the gateway to hate. Funny thing is, this free speech king likes to sue people for talking about him.

Originally posted by Surtur
Indeed, imagine trying to talk tough on the internet. Nobody who is truly tough needs to do so.

I could beat you down, no doubt. estahuh

Your back is your weakness. uhuh



Originally posted by cdtm
Oh, absolutely. She knew exactly what would happen if the topic was "lgbtq" and "Jordan Peterson." Why else would she secretly record the thing.

Because she got called in for a disciplinary hearing and she knew exactly why she did. So it stands to reason (I am reasonable and would do the same) she would record it.





Originally posted by cdtm
The clincher is her current career as an alt-right personality. That's not an accident.

I won't go so far as to say the "complaints" were fake, but if her goal was Youtube stardom, it wouldn't surprise me.


It's possible that she was driven to be more conservative due to the libtarded shenanigans. They call this getting 'red-pilled' similar to taking the red pill from the movie The Matrix. It's possible that if you get harmed by the libtarded industrial complex, you'll balk at the system and abandon it.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
I love it when Jordan starts talking tough about fighting. You look at him and just know if you butted him he'd roll around on the floor bleeding and crying. Honestly, I actually kind of feel you here on this one.

Maybe one of his fans can correct me on this, but isn't he the guy who said something to the effect of he can't respect any man who wouldn't be willing to fight him, or some cheesy macho shit like that? And that weak men can't be good men?

At first I looked at this guy and was like, all right, this dude isn't anything close to impressive physically-speaking, but hey, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. He's well into late middle age/early old age, maybe he used to be athletic in his youth or some shit, but then I saw a picture of him as a young man, and no shit, the dude looked like a slightly-less intimidating Jerry Seinfeld.

It's so jarring and honestly corny to hear a dude who I could have easily bodied when he was in the prime of his life talk like he's a big tough guy.

And just so we're clear, I don't have a problem with him not being a big tough guy, and don't think less of guys who are more physically delicate (in fact I generally prefer men like that sexually). But the tough guy act from this dude who is not and has never been a tough guy is cringe.

I'm not a Peterson expert though, so maybe my impression of this aspect of him is wrong?

Originally posted by Robtard
Wait, she subscribed to JP and then became an Alt-Right talking head? For real?

The plot thickens, or nature just running its course... dun dun dun

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uHVsm76xoDs

Thanks, cdtm, for looking up those videos.

I'm still wondering what makes her alt right?

Originally posted by Surtur
I'm still wondering what makes her alt right?


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Originally posted by dadudemon
Thanks, cdtm, for looking up those videos.

I just wanted to hear the audio from the inquisition, and ended up finding all this stuff first.

Originally posted by cdtm
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Why does this make her alt right? Did you watch the video?

Originally posted by cdtm
I just wanted to hear the audio from the inquisition, and ended up finding all this stuff first.

What is your issue with the videos you linked?

"Goodbye to the left."

"Peak fertility age."

No talking points detected.

Surt-Bot is the ED209 of npc's.

Originally posted by cdtm
"Goodbye to the left."

"Peak fertility age."

No talking points detected.

Surt-Bot is the ED209 of npc's.

So you don't have any actual evidence and I'm guessing you didn't even watch the videos.

EDIT: Do you mistakenly believe JP is also alt right?

Originally posted by NemeBro
Honestly, I actually kind of feel you here on this one.

Maybe one of his fans can correct me on this, but isn't he the guy who said something to the effect of he can't respect any man who wouldn't be willing to fight him, or some cheesy macho shit like that? And that weak men can't be good men?

At first I looked at this guy and was like, all right, this dude isn't anything close to impressive physically-speaking, but hey, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. He's well into late middle age/early old age, maybe he used to be athletic in his youth or some shit, but then I saw a picture of him as a young man, and no shit, the dude looked like a slightly-less intimidating Jerry Seinfeld.

It's so jarring and honestly corny to hear a dude who I could have easily bodied when he was in the prime of his life talk like he's a big tough guy.

And just so we're clear, I don't have a problem with him not being a big tough guy, and don't think less of guys who are more physically delicate (in fact I generally prefer men like that sexually). But the tough guy act from this dude who is not and has never been a tough guy is cringe.

I'm not a Peterson expert though, so maybe my impression of this aspect of him is wrong? No you're not wrong, you are right. He said all that and seriously the thought of him trying to fight anyone just makes me laugh.

Originally posted by cdtm
"Goodbye to the left."

"Peak fertility age."

No talking points detected.

Surt-Bot is the ED209 of npc's. would profile if anyone still profiled.

I'd be curious as to the specific quote he made about fighting him.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
would profile if anyone still profiled.

The problem is it's incorrect, she's not alt right.

In fact, "JP is alt right" is some NPC type of shit lol.

Originally posted by Surtur
I'd be curious as to the specific quote he made about fighting him. Google is your friend mate, he's actually made a fair few.

Originally posted by Surtur
The problem is it's incorrect, she's not alt right.

In fact, "JP is alt right" is some NPC type of shit lol. Calm down Surt, no one has triggered tonight, let's all stay chill.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Google is your friend mate, he's actually made a fair few.

Yeah, found nothing.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Calm down Surt, no one has triggered tonight, let's all stay chill.

Pointing out facts does not equate to being triggered lol.

The fact is nothing posted so far shows she is alt right. I'm genuinely curious for any actual examples.

Originally posted by cdtm
"Goodbye to the left."

"Peak fertility age."

No talking points detected.

Surt-Bot is the ED209 of npc's.

I'm not going to screen those videos to fact check your post regarding this mostly because I get the feeling you didn't even fact check yourself in regards to those videos.

What is the definition of alt-right? Is it fair to say the wiki definition is accurate or maybe the splc of it? If we go by those definitions then a lot of folks aren't using the term correctly on these forums.

Okay I see JP said "weak men can't be virtuous". I don't think he was talking strictly about fighting prowess though.

Originally posted by Surtur
Okay I see JP said "weak men can't be virtuous". I don't think he was talking strictly about fighting prowess though.


He was moreso talking about personal responsibility, courage, and having a backbone.

Originally posted by snowdragon
I'm not going to screen those videos to fact check your post regarding this mostly because I get the feeling you didn't even fact check yourself in regards to those videos.

What is the definition of alt-right? Is it fair to say the wiki definition is accurate or maybe the splc of it? If we go by those definitions then a lot of folks aren't using the term correctly on these forums.

Yeah I didn't watch the transgender video, but I did watch the one about leaving the left cuz it's only like 6 minutes long.

She doesn't say anything about being alt right in it. She says she doesn't know if walking away from the left means she is a centrist or on the right.
She even talks about how she is not into white nationalism.

I watched only about 60 seconds of the fertility video and it seems like it's meant to be a discussion about society and the role of women and the expectations of when they have kids compared with science about fertility. Though I'm also not sure what talking points the alt right has about fertility.

If you want some serious JP lulz google his Rogan interview and sleep deprivation. He said he hadn't slept for 30 days (lulz death, would be like a huge lsd trip before he even hit a week) and his diet (which would also kill most people.)

Not to mention he looked like he was on a bad cocaine run (or whatever prescription meds would "speed" him up.)

Originally posted by snowdragon
If you want some serious JP lulz google his Rogan interview and sleep deprivation. He said he hadn't slept for 30 days (lulz death, would be like a huge lsd trip before he even hit a week) and his diet (which would also kill most people.)

Not to mention he looked like he was on a bad cocaine run (or whatever prescription meds would "speed" him up.)

His quote is a far cry from him trying to act tough though, which is how it was first presented here by people discussing it.

Originally posted by Surtur
His quote is a far cry from him trying to act tough though, which is how it was first presented here by people discussing it.

The fact that the conversation shifted from ideas to "I can beat you up" says it all when it comes to "debating" ideas.

Originally posted by snowdragon
The fact that the conversation shifted from ideas to "I can beat you up" says it all when it comes to "debating" ideas.

It sounds like he's talking about standing up for yourself as opposed to trying to be tough.

Originally posted by snowdragon
If you want some serious JP lulz google his Rogan interview and sleep deprivation. He said he hadn't slept for 30 days (lulz death, would be like a huge lsd trip before he even hit a week) and his diet (which would also kill most people.)

Not to mention he looked like he was on a bad cocaine run (or whatever prescription meds would "speed" him up.)

Did a week myself. Bad reaction to a "babies dose" of a perscription.

I lost about 20-30 lbs, could barely walk. Am lucky to be alive.

Originally posted by Surtur
It sounds like he's talking about standing up for yourself as opposed to trying to be tough.

It's both, hence his comment about not being able to deal with "crazy women" because you can't beat them up to solve your problems, like you can with a man. He certainly does push the tough-guy angle at least some.

Originally posted by Robtard
It's both, hence his comment about not being able to deal with "crazy women" because you can't beat them up to solve your problems, like you can with a man. He certainly does push the tough-guy angle at least some.

He's talking about how it's taboo to hit a woman even if she gets violent with you first. I don't think it's tough guy talk to say he wishes he could retaliate.

That's a pretty good spin on what he said, kudos.

But he's clearly trying to pass himself as bit of a rough-n-tough badass, the intellectual who can also go street-level if need be. Hence his previous comment about not respecting men who wouldn't ever fight him and then adding the 'can't solve your problems the same way with women.'

Originally posted by Robtard
That's a pretty good spin on what he said, kudos.

But he's clearly trying to pass himself as bit of a rough-n-tough badass, the intellectual who can also go street-level if need be. Hence his previous comment about not respecting men who wouldn't ever fight him and then adding the 'can't solve your problems the same way with women.'

Right, opinion noted.

"Acting like a tough guy, what a loser. BTW, I'd totally kick his ass."


LOL!!

The point is moreso that between two guys there's at least a subconscious acknowledgement of the possibility of things getting physical. So like say one of the guys completely flips out and starts getting within another guy's personal space, couple inches away from the face, screaming hysterically.

Well a guy is less likely to do that with another guy, because things could very conceivably get physical.

With a girl there might not be as much inhibition because even if a girl starts doing that to a guy, there's not as much of a chance of the guy getting violent with a girl.

Originally posted by Silent Master
"Acting like a tough guy, what a loser. BTW, I'd totally kick his ass."


LOL!!

Originally posted by Surtur
Right, opinion noted.

I mean, it's literally his own words...

Originally posted by Robtard
I mean, it's literally his own words...

"But he's clearly trying to pass himself as bit of a rough-n-tough badass"

^Your opinion has been noted.

You're very hostile again today and you've not been attacked. Is this normal for you now?

Anyhow, it's literally his own words about men, what he respects and fighting.

Originally posted by Robtard
You're very hostile again today and you've not been attacked. Is this normal for you now?

Anyhow, it's literally his own words about men, what he respects and fighting.

Saying your opinion has been noted and then posting back your opinion is hostile? Lol okay.

You're clearly trying to dismiss my points when they're based on what Peterson said, not what I imagined he said.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
The point is moreso that between two guys there's at least a subconscious acknowledgement of the possibility of things getting physical. So like say one of the guys completely flips out and starts getting within another guy's personal space, couple inches away from the face, screaming hysterically.

Well a guy is less likely to do that with another guy, because things could very conceivably get physical.

With a girl there might not be as much inhibition because even if a girl starts doing that to a guy, there's not as much of a chance of the guy getting violent with a girl.

So yeah, it's a bit of both. He's pushing the intellectual who can also go street level if need be.

Originally posted by Robtard
You're clearly trying to dismiss my points when they're based on what Peterson said, not what I imagined he said.

You took what he said and then imagined he was trying to sound like a bad ass.

There is nothing bad ass about hitting someone who hits you first. It doesn't matter if it's a man or a woman.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
The point is moreso that between two guys there's at least a subconscious acknowledgement of the possibility of things getting physical. So like say one of the guys completely flips out and starts getting within another guy's personal space, couple inches away from the face, screaming hysterically.

Well a guy is less likely to do that with another guy, because things could very conceivably get physical.

With a girl there might not be as much inhibition because even if a girl starts doing that to a guy, there's not as much of a chance of the guy getting violent with a girl.

Don't guys generally kill other guys over "respect"?

Male on female violance certainly is too common, but male on male has that "fear factor". Get him before he gets you, no half measures.

Originally posted by Surtur
You took what he said and then imagined he was trying to sound like a bad ass.

There is nothing bad ass about hitting someone who hits you first. It doesn't matter if it's a man or a woman.

He did not mention self-defense, you're adding that.

Originally posted by snowdragon
I'm not going to screen those videos to fact check your post regarding this mostly because I get the feeling you didn't even fact check yourself in regards to those videos.

What is the definition of alt-right? Is it fair to say the wiki definition is accurate or maybe the splc of it? If we go by those definitions then a lot of folks aren't using the term correctly on these forums.

I've watched much longer, and these aren't all that long.

Who do you think her audience is? That's the issue here: She did a provocative class where someone/'s complained. Then she secretly recorded the predictable disciplinary meeting, giving (what seems to me) to be rehersed lines of the sort and anti-left talking head would make.

And now she's regularly making videos criticising the left.

Call it whatever you want, I call it a brilliant career move. Or a genius con.

Could be a con job, not the first time.

eg I don't really believe Anne Coulter is as nutty Far-Right as she pretends to be. She's intelligent enough to know that a certain percentage of the Right will make her rich if she goes there and expresses what they want openly, saying "rag heads" and the rest of her drivel. Phuck her anyways for spreading hatred though,

Originally posted by Robtard
Could be a con job, not the first time.

eg I don't really believe Anne Coulter is as nutty Far-Right as she pretends to be. She's intelligent enough to know that a certain percentage of the Right will make her rich if she goes there and expresses what they want openly, saying "rag heads" and the rest of her drivel. Phuck her anyways for spreading hatred though,

Do you share this same opinion of Joy Reid?

Originally posted by Robtard
He did not mention self-defense, you're adding that.

He said women acting "crazy". I took it to mean self defense, like a crazy woman hitting you. That is my opinion. If it's your opinion he meant something else? Cool.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Do you share this same opinion of Joy Reid?
I don't know a whole lot about Joy Reid, but I don't thinks she pretends to be Far-Right?

Originally posted by Robtard
I don't know a whole lot about Joy Reid, but I don't thinks she pretends to be Far-Right?

She pretends to be far left, while calling Coulter a tranny and talking mad trash about gay homosexuals, McCain and a slew of others.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
She pretends to be far left, while calling Coulter a tranny and talking mad trash about gay homosexuals, McCain and a slew of others.

Wasn't aware "talking mad trash about gay homosexuals" is a Far Left angle. Seems more like a Far-Right angle. Maybe she's just bigoted?

Did laugh at Coulter being a "tranny" though. Lolz.

No Im saying she pretends to be far left, while doing those things.

Originally posted by darthgoober
"under any circumstances whatsoever" is a pretty broad category though. I mean would you be able to respect someone who refused to try to fight someone he caught raping one of his kids or something like that?

Bingo.

He's dangerous if you're some kind of spineless pussy that jumps at their own shadow, yeah.

Originally posted by darthgoober
"under any circumstances whatsoever" is a pretty broad category though. I mean would you be able to respect someone who refused to try to fight someone he caught raping one of his kids or something like that?

Do you think Peterson was thinking about child molestation when he said that?

Originally posted by Trocity
He's dangerous if you're some kind of spineless pussy that jumps at their own shadow, yeah.

https://media2.giphy.com/media/gVoBC0SuaHStq/giphy.gif

Originally posted by Robtard
Do you think Peterson was thinking about child molestation when he said that?
I think he was thinking about someone who refused to fight under ANY circumstances whatsoever, just as he said. As in "Do literally anything you want and I'll still backdown".

Originally posted by Trocity
He's dangerous if you're some kind of spineless pussy that jumps at their own shadow, yeah.

^
I don't think the story is about Peterson being dangerous himself, like he'd kill you. It's judging whether he's dangerous in setting off unhinged people; which can be dangerous depending on the person. So it seems Trocity didn't understand again, but I also have a feeling he only read the title, Trumpers tend to do that.

Originally posted by darthgoober
I think he was thinking about someone who refused to fight under ANY circumstances whatsoever, just as he said. As in "Do literally anything you want and I'll still backdown".

Which can vary a lot, from just being verbally provoked onward...

Originally posted by Robtard
but I also have a feeling he only read the title, Trumpers tend to do that.

CDTM is a Trumper?

Originally posted by Surtur
CDTM is a Trumper?

I didn't say "only Trumpers do this", just that it tends to be a Trumper trait as just seen in Trocity's out of place post.

CDTM also said he "skimmed", meaning he read more than just the title. So why push a lie?

Originally posted by Robtard
Which can vary a lot, from just being verbally provoked onward...
There's not a lot of variance in "under any circumstances whatsoever"... that's an absolute statement and therefore includes the most extreme examples.

Originally posted by darthgoober
There's not a lot of variance in "under any circumstances whatsoever"... that's an absolute statement and therefore includes the most extreme examples. The use of the word "any" means there's all the variance in the world. From someone looking at you funny to kiddy-rape as you mentioned.

From the Queen's English:

Any
- 1usually with negative or in questions Used to refer to one or some of a thing or number of things, no matter how much or how many.

Originally posted by Robtard
I didn't say "only Trumpers do this", just that it tends to be a Trumper trait as just seen in Trocity's out of place post.

CDTM also said he "skimmed", meaning he read more than just the title. So why push a lie?

He didn't say he skimmed the videos, he said he skimmed the article. Do better.

Originally posted by Surtur
He didn't say he skimmed the videos, he said he skimmed the article. Do better.

We're talking about the article, as it's literally named: "How dangerous is Jordan B Peterson, the rightwing professor who 'hit a hornets' nest'?"

So again, why lie and spin? Silly, imo.

ps and you read an article, not so much a video usually

Originally posted by Robtard
We're talking about the article, as it's literally named: "How dangerous is Jordan B Peterson, the rightwing professor who 'hit a hornets' nest'?"

So again, why lie and spin? Silly, imo.

And I'm talking about the videos he posted, so there is no lie. This is not the hill you wanna die on, I'd move on.

And I'm clealry talking about the article as that's the subject. That's what you say when you know you're wrong and hope to squash further rebuttal.

I don't even understand what you guys arguing about.


"any" all, rape, bla bla bla

Originally posted by Robtard
And I'm clealry talking about the article as that's the subject. That's what you say when you know you're wrong and hope to squash further rebuttal.

No, I'm not wrong as I didn't say anything incorrect. Do better, move on.

What you did was a Red Herring. A distraction with something immediately irrelevant.

Originally posted by Robtard
What you did was a Red Herring. A distraction with something immediately irrelevant.

So first it was a lie and now it's a red herring, good stuff. I posted a fact, move on from it.

Originally posted by Robtard
The use of the word "any" means there's all the variance in the world. From someone looking at you funny to kiddy-rape as you mentioned.

From the Queen's English:

Any
- 1usually with negative or in questions Used to refer to one or some of a thing or number of things, no matter how much or how many.
The word "any" is being used as an all inclusive absolute. As in no matter what the cause, the response is the same "not fighting". I'm not saying there's no difference in potential provocations, I'm saying there's no difference in the implied response to the provocation.

Originally posted by Surtur
So first it was a lie and now it's a red herring, good stuff.

Correct. The lie would be the claim that CDTM didn't read the article; when he "skimmed" it. The Red Herring is you waving "but I meant the videos!" after the fact over in the corner to distract away from the first. Hope that clears things up.

Is it upsetting to you Rob that, as I've said a dozen times, I'm not a Trump supporter and yet still disagree with you and your shitty views?

I know the left likes to ignore facts to further the narrative that they want but seriously, how many times has it been now?

I shouldn't expect anything different from someone who jumps at his own shadow, I guess.

I find it funny that it took less than two years for you to go from being an open Trumper to a closet Trumper.

ps Read the article next time before commenting, or at the least least skim it to get an idea. Not just the title.

You have the brain of an 80 year old Alzheimer's patient or are just so biased and dumb that you have tricked your brain into believing shit that never happened.

Jordan Peterson is dangerous but Antifa is nothing but peaceful, right old boy?

Keep flipping. IMO, they'll be more and more just like you in the coming year.

That's just something you're making up on the spot and are applying to me. Like a strawman argument.

Not very.

I'm pretty fond of JBP. He's highly intelligent and consistently misrepresented by the media and his critics, though he does indeed occasionally say some truly bizarre shit (cf. his diet, his 30-day sleepless binge, one or two hallucinogenic dreams, etc.).

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Not very.

I'm pretty fond of JBP. He's highly intelligent and consistently misrepresented by the media and his critics, though he does indeed occasionally say some truly bizarre shit (cf. his diet, his 30-day sleepless binge, one or two hallucinogenic dreams, etc.).

30 days is impossible.

Obviously. The body would pull him under, unless he was on drugs. In which case he'd be dead.

I was on the edge myself, from a bad reaction . From 200 lbs to around 150, from one week of fasting, and one week of insomnia. It was hell, and took several months to recover from. A week of that shit? Forgetaboutit.

I never went psychotic.

You'd be surprised how much the brain can take.

Those voices are just my inner thoughts.

That's what I keep telling myself. Everyone hears them.

Extended bouts of sleep deprivation and lack of sleep can cause lasting brain damage. Technically, every minute you're awake, you are causing brain damage. Sleep is the way the brain repairs itself.

Sleep even regulates testosterone for men. A guy who sleeps regularly 8 hours vs. a guy who sleeps 6 hours? The former will have noticeably greater testosterone in 10 years.

The bad Science in the posts here are hilarious, a bit like much of Jordan's shit.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Yeah as long as you're getting SOME sleep, your brain can hold out for quite a while even in a deteriorating state. When my first kid was born, he had the worst case of colic the nurses had ever seen, and it lasted way longer than normal. Because of this(or because of his autism) he never developed a regular sleep schedule(he literally never slept for more than an hour at a time) and my bipolar wife had severe post postpartum so I was always the one who had to deal with him. Long story short, I never got more than 4 hours of sleep in a single day/night, and it was always in the form of 30-45 minute naps for a solid 4 years strait until we finally found a psychologist who told us about the possibility of giving him melatonin which finally made him sleep through the night. By then I was totally wreck as far as anxiety, paranoia, depression go(all of which I'd suffered from before, but they got a LOT worse) and a real ******* to be around, but I was still able to function enough to work and such. Don't get me wrong because I wasn't a GOOD worker, but I was able to barely skate by. TBH though, I still have fairly intense issues with anxiety, paranoia, and depression and still have pretty big sleep issues myself though, so it's very possible that the 4 solid years of sleep deprivation f*cked me up permanently. Sorry to hear all this mate. Do you think it did permanently f u up?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Yeah as long as you're getting SOME sleep, your brain can hold out for quite a while even in a deteriorating state. When my first kid was born, he had the worst case of colic the nurses had ever seen, and it lasted way longer than normal. Because of this(or because of his autism) he never developed a regular sleep schedule(he literally never slept for more than an hour at a time) and my bipolar wife had severe post postpartum so I was always the one who had to deal with him. Long story short, I never got more than 4 hours of sleep in a single day/night, and it was always in the form of 30-45 minute naps for a solid 4 years strait until we finally found a psychologist who told us about the possibility of giving him melatonin which finally made him sleep through the night. By then I was totally wreck as far as anxiety, paranoia, depression go(all of which I'd suffered from before, but they got a LOT worse) and a real ******* to be around, but I was still able to function enough to work and such. Don't get me wrong because I wasn't a GOOD worker, but I was able to barely skate by. TBH though, I still have fairly intense issues with anxiety, paranoia, and depression and still have pretty big sleep issues myself though, so it's very possible that the 4 solid years of sleep deprivation f*cked me up permanently.

Don't be made when I suggest this...

But have you heard of that sleep aid called melatonin? peaches



If you're not trying it, try it. But one thing I see done wrong all the time is people don't meditate or try to sleep within 30 minutes of taking the sleep aid.

Originally posted by Robtard
Correct. The lie would be the claim that CDTM didn't read the article; when he "skimmed" it. The Red Herring is you waving "but I meant the videos!" after the fact over in the corner to distract away from the first. Hope that clears things up.

I never claimed he didn't read the article. You're lying about that now. His not watching the videos was brought up by me before you even opened your mouth. Do better, I'd suggest moving on.

Originally posted by Trocity
He's dangerous if you're some kind of spineless pussy that jumps at their own shadow, yeah.

You just described all of his fans.

His fans are far left?

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Sorry to hear all this mate. Do you think it did permanently f u up?
Hard to tell. Like I said, I had issues with anxiety, paranoia, and depression for a long time before any of that started, but they got a lot worse over the course of those 4 years. They're better than they'd gotten now, but still quite a bit worse than when it all started. So it's kinda impossible to say whether the leftover increase is due to a natural progression of conditions or if they were permanently exacerbated due to the extended sleep deprivation.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Don't be made when I suggest this...

But have you heard of that sleep aid called melatonin? peaches



If you're not trying it, try it. But one thing I see done wrong all the time is people don't meditate or try to sleep within 30 minutes of taking the sleep aid.
Melatonin works on my kids, but it doesn't do shit for me personally. But it's ok, now I have Trazodone and Klonopin to knock me out and minipress to prevent nightmares so I do ok in the sleep department for the most part.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Hard to tell. Like I said, I had issues with anxiety, paranoia, and depression for a long time before any of that started, but they got a lot worse over the course of those 4 years. They're better than they'd gotten now, but still quite a bit worse than when it all started. So it's kinda impossible to say whether the leftover increase is due to a natural progression of conditions or if they were permanently exacerbated due to the extended sleep deprivation.


Melatonin works on my kids, but it doesn't do shit for me personally. But it's ok, now I have Trazodone and Klonopin to knock me out and minipress to prevent nightmares so I do ok in the sleep department for the most part.

I had troubles too, melatonin didn't really work for me.

I've been getting amitriptyline for sleep, but it's also used for anxiety.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Hard to tell. Like I said, I had issues with anxiety, paranoia, and depression for a long time before any of that started, but they got a lot worse over the course of those 4 years. They're better than they'd gotten now, but still quite a bit worse than when it all started. So it's kinda impossible to say whether the leftover increase is due to a natural progression of conditions or if they were permanently exacerbated due to the extended sleep deprivation.


Melatonin works on my kids, but it doesn't do shit for me personally. But it's ok, now I have Trazodone and Klonopin to knock me out and minipress to prevent nightmares so I do ok in the sleep department for the most part. Really not good, I'm sorry to hear you are having to face this struggle.

*bet

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
I bet Peterson could beat you in a debate, Putinbot1.


Depends on the topic, right? Which topic would they debate?

Feminism

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Feminism

JP would destroy Putinbot in a debate on feminism.