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he has dined on 4 large planets putting him at or just above the level he attained while battling the mad celestials. the guardians have only 10 minutes to prepare and counter if they can.

can he devour OA?

The Guardians call Hal. Gg.

Originally posted by leonidas
he has dined on 4 large planets putting him at or just above the level he attained while battling the mad celestials. the guardians have only 10 minutes to prepare and counter if they can.

can he devour OA?
No

Yes

Four planet Galactus vs OA with only 10 mins of prep? Galactus wins.

i think so too.

I'm honestly curious how Galactus doesn't win here? Aside from the fact that he seems a good bit more powerful with this amp, what's stopping him from devouring the GL energy as well?

Originally posted by Galan007
I'm honestly curious how Galactus doesn't win here? Aside from the fact that he seems a good bit more powerful with this amp, what's stopping him from devouring the GL energy as well?

The full battery is what turned Hal into Zero Hour Parallax, and Kyle into classic Ion, who even Spectre admitted could do whatever he wanted with time and space.

He also absorbed Time Trappers power, so it's as likely Hal can absorb Big G, as vice versa.

Good points.

And the most important point of all, is Hal beat Zod who beat Superman. And as we all know, Superman would beat down Galactus after feeding on a thousand planets.



Seriously though, Hal hijacked Nekron. Galactus tries eating him, Hal would probably take him over from within.

Laugh it up, Hal willpower with his ring was able to match sinestro woth parallax. Hal also overpowered the will of all other darkstars


He racked up some crazy feats

Originally posted by cdtm
The Guardians call Hal. Gg.
this

Originally posted by zopzop
Four planet Galactus vs OA with only 10 mins of prep? Galactus wins. Originally posted by Galan007
I'm honestly curious how Galactus doesn't win here? Aside from the fact that he seems a good bit more powerful with this amp, what's stopping him from devouring the GL energy as well?
Unless you're using Guardians at their lowest, I'm not sure how Galactus wins here.

A dozen Guardians vs Galactus? Galactus would get his ass kicked.

Galactus gets merked by Hal alone.

Originally posted by panthergod
Galactus gets merked by Hal alone.
No

Gotta go with Galactus. Dude effortlessly killed a mad Celestial while keeping the other three at bay.

And that is more impressive than Krona amped by Abstract emotional entities.. how?

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
Gotta go with Galactus. Dude effortlessly killed a mad Celestial while keeping the other three at bay.

This. Galactus would have a feast in a fight like this. Nothing but pure energy beings. This is a stomp tbh. A happy and satisfying stomp for Galactus. He wouldn't have to feed again, EVER.

gotta say i'm sorta with carv here. guardians v galactus doesn't seem like a great match up for the guardians. i suppose it's possible to speculate that he couldn't devour emotional energy, but we've seen it absorbed by PLENTY so i think that's a tough argument to make.

Originally posted by carver9
This. Galactus would have a feast in a fight like this. Nothing but pure energy beings. This is a stomp tbh. A happy and satisfying stomp for Galactus. He wuouldn't have to feed again, EVER.

Lifebringer Galactus was outperformed by Quasar.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Unless you're using Guardians at their lowest, I'm not sure how Galactus wins here.

A dozen Guardians vs Galactus? Galactus would get his ass kicked.
I'd agree with you if this was standard fed Galactus (the one that went up against Tyrant, the one that fought Odin, etc...). But this is an amped version that took on 4 Celestials.
Originally posted by panthergod
Lifebringer Galactus was outperformed by Quasar.
This is completely different Galactus.

An inferior version.

Originally posted by panthergod
An inferior version. The Galactus in this thread is specifically the one who consumed 4 planets and fought the mad celestials. He never got out performed by Quasar like Life Bringer did, so you are flat out telling a blatant lie.

has galactus performed universal feat without UN? as in destroy or create a universe and beyond, geniunely curious

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
Gotta go with Galactus. Dude effortlessly killed a mad Celestial while keeping the other three at bay.
And why is that impressive again? Sol's anvil ripped the voltron celestial apart and that was just a portion of sun's power along with a few cities worth of power.

Originally posted by zopzop
I'd agree with you if this was standard fed Galactus (the one that went up against Tyrant, the one that fought Odin, etc...). But this is an amped version that took on 4 Celestials.

He got killed by three celestials combined and that combined celestial was torn apart by sol's anvil.

Still can't compete with a dozen Guardians and all the GLs.

Originally posted by MrMind
has galactus performed universal feat without UN? as in destroy or create a universe and beyond, geniunely curious
Nope, he hasn't even destroyed a galaxy.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Nope, he hasn't even destroyed a galaxy.

meh, Id say shaking the galaxy when he fought mephisto and able to eat his realm had mephisto not surrendered, that's equally as good

Originally posted by leonidas
gotta say i'm sorta with carv here. guardians v galactus doesn't seem like a great match up for the guardians. i suppose it's possible to speculate that he couldn't devour emotional energy, but we've seen it absorbed by PLENTY so i think that's a tough argument to make.
Galactus can't drain anything which Guardians can't drain back.

Guardians drained Volthoom easily while keeping him imprisoned.

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Originally posted by abhilegend
Now for Geoff Johns era Guardians. First the origin of the Guardians and how they removed emotions from themselves and gave it to Volthoom turning him into the very light which created the universe.

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Full power Volthoom was at least universal level in power.

And Guardians drained him easily while fighting entire GLC, Larfleeze and white Lantern Kyle.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Guardians vs Guy Gardner with Hand of Krona and later entire GLC, Larfleeze, White Lantern Kyle, Red Lantern Corps with Manhunters. All of this while controlling almost a third of the universe with their minds.

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Guardians got the upper hand on all of them when they drained Volthoom (their own power).

Ridiculous feat in itself as WL Kyle was able to restore universe itself when it was getting destroyed.

Originally posted by MrMind
meh, Id say shaking the galaxy when he fought mephisto and able to eat his realm had mephisto not surrendered, that's equally as good
Not really, a single Guardian has collected entire magic (chaotic and orderly) of the universe (Galactus was straight up defeated by Fire Wraiths and was almost killed) and sealed it away in starheart.

https://postimg.cc/image/ku2czua25/
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Five guardians crushed an entire living galaxy to a small ball.

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Easily better than both feats.

Considering Galactus' equal Mistress Death casually one-shot the Cancerverse and destroyed the physical bodies of the Many-Angled Ones?

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Considering Galactus' equal Mistress Death casually one-shot the Cancerverse and destroyed the physical bodies of the Many-Angled Ones?
He is NOT Death's equal. He as about to get overwhelmed by the Galactus Engine till Death stepped in and saved everyone (thanks to Thanos' meddling).

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Considering Galactus' equal Mistress Death casually one-shot the Cancerverse and destroyed the physical bodies of the Many-Angled Ones?
Galactus is so far beneath Death its not even funny. Also cancerverse wasn't destroyed.

SO mad celestials aren't on par or above scw anti monitor larfleeze or volthoom? all has beaten them.

Guardians: "We gave you that"...which means they are just reclaiming a power they bestowed...How does this Equate to Galactus and his power

Originally posted by abhilegend
Not really, a single Guardian has collected entire magic (chaotic and orderly) of the universe (Galactus was straight up defeated by Fire Wraiths and was almost killed) and sealed it away in starheart.

https://postimg.cc/image/ku2czua25/
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Five guardians crushed an entire living galaxy to a small ball.

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https://postimg.cc/image/5pfftt0ml/

Easily better than both feats.

...so the annihilation wave doesn't ring a bell? galaxies are fodder to Galactus at this point. Mad celestials killed IG users, and tanked the UN

Originally posted by panthergod
Lifebringer Galactus was outperformed by Quasar.

Are you really mentioning low showings? I dont even think you want to go there, especially considering what has happened with the Guardians.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Galactus can't drain anything which Guardians can't drain back.

Guardians drained Volthoom easily while keeping him imprisoned.

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And Guardians drained him easily while fighting entire GLC, Larfleeze and white Lantern Kyle.

and yet ganthet couldn't stop henshaw, a simple alpha, from draining him....? and one guardian couldn't stop prime? and relic....

but i'm not going to get into a low balling contest however because the guardians have several. hell, it can easily be argued that HAL>guardian. but it's possible they could battle galactus for energy he absorbed from them i guess--though they wouldn't be 'giving it to him' as they gave away their power initially to volthoom. much more likely that he is busy one shotting several of them at a time though. if you insist on showing their very highest feats, and painting them out to be WELL above what they are, without acknowledging any of the lesser ones that MORE than balance out the relatively few good showings, i'll be happy to highlight some for you.

Superboy Prime and Cyborg Superman have extreme high ends, though.

SBP literally threw the Anti-Monitor off Earth into another galaxy, for example, and casually defeated Ion. He's also the only living being to resist the Black Lantern emotional spectrum vampirism.

And Henshaw took over part of the Source Wall, and survived an execution from Hal when he was Parallax..

Originally posted by cdtm
Superboy Prime and Cyborg Superman have extreme high ends, though.

SBP literally threw the Anti-Monitor off Earth into another galaxy, for example, and casually defeated Ion. He's also the only living being to resist the Black Lantern emotional spectrum vampirism.

And Henshaw took over part of the Source Wall, and survived an execution from Hal when he was Parallax..

Superboy Prime didn't throw Anti Monitor off Earth and when he did throw him, Anti Monitor was already near death.

He didnt casually defeat Ion. The only time he gained an edge against him was when Ion was in a room full of led. Did you read the comic?

Originally posted by zopzop
Four planet Galactus vs OA with only 10 mins of prep? Galactus wins. Originally posted by leonidas
i think so too. Originally posted by Galan007
I'm honestly curious how Galactus doesn't win here? Aside from the fact that he seems a good bit more powerful with this amp, what's stopping him from devouring the GL energy as well? I got three words for you: Guy. Freakin. Gardner.

Originally posted by cdtm
Superboy Prime and Cyborg Superman have extreme high ends, though.

SBP literally threw the Anti-Monitor off Earth into another galaxy, for example, and casually defeated Ion. He's also the only living being to resist the Black Lantern emotional spectrum vampirism.

And Henshaw took over part of the Source Wall, and survived an execution from Hal when he was Parallax..

so, what? now henshaw AND prime>guardians? lol you...aren't helping my friend.



now this dude i can get behind. i'm convinced.

Originally posted by carver9
Superboy Prime didn't throw Anti Monitor off Earth and when he did throw him, Anti Monitor was already near death.

He didnt casually defeat Ion. The only time he gained an edge against him was when Ion was in a room full of led. Did you read the comic?
What? AM lost his body armor. He was still alive and very little indication that he was near death. He was thrown across the galaxy back to AM universe.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
What? AM lost his body armor. He was still alive and very little indication that he was near death. He was thrown across the galaxy back to AM universe.

After they hit him with that Galaxy level attack, the fight was over. His armor was ripped and he was severely damaged. Prime then attacked him from behind, carried him into space and threw him. That wasn't close to a full powered Anti-Monitor.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
SO mad celestials aren't on par or above scw anti monitor larfleeze or volthoom? all has beaten them.

ABC comparison will take you only so far.



That was regarding if Galactus can drain emotional spectrum.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
...so the annihilation wave doesn't ring a bell? galaxies are fodder to Galactus at this point. Mad celestials killed IG users, and tanked the UN
Galactus only destroyed a few solar systems in Annihilation.

Celestials didn't tank IG (it was in a different universe) and UN was used improperly by an alternate Reed who killed himself.

Originally posted by leonidas
and yet ganthet couldn't stop henshaw, a simple alpha, from draining him....? and one guardian couldn't stop prime? and relic....

but i'm not going to get into a low balling contest however because the guardians have several. hell, it can easily be argued that HAL>guardian. but it's possible they could battle galactus for energy he absorbed from them i guess--though they wouldn't be 'giving it to him' as they gave away their power initially to volthoom. much more likely that he is busy one shotting several of them at a time though. if you insist on showing their very highest feats, and painting them out to be WELL above what they are, without acknowledging any of the lesser ones that MORE than balance out the relatively few good showings, i'll be happy to highlight some for you.
Just like say Galactus getting oneshotted by combined celestials.

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And that combined celestial got oneshotted by sol's anvil (a small part of the power of the sun).

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You know what's funny? No need to lowball or highball, it's the only quantifiable feat in the whole arc.

And its funny you think Galactus can just randomly oneshot Guardians. Funny stuff right there.

Simply a low showing imo. :3

Originally posted by victreebelvictr
Simply a low showing imo. :3
It's the only showing he has in that arc. And GLs throw a sun at Galactus.

Originally posted by abhilegend
A few dozen lanterns own Spider Guild by throwing Oa's exploding sun on them.

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Or create a new sun.

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GG Galactus.

Yeah, Galactus is screwed. X3

Originally posted by abhilegend
Just like say Galactus getting oneshotted by combined celestials.

https://i.postimg.cc/gwYMXnWx/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/ygxvjtWB/image.jpg

And that combined celestial got oneshotted by sol's anvil (a small part of the power of the sun).

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You know what's funny? No need to lowball or highball, it's the only quantifiable feat in the whole arc.

And its funny you think Galactus can just randomly oneshot Guardians. Funny stuff right there.
A) Hickman is a phucking idiot.
B) You SURE Sol's Anvil wasn't amping the energy it was channeling from the Sun?

Originally posted by zopzop
A) Hickman is a phucking idiot.
B) You SURE Sol's Anvil wasn't amping the energy it was channeling from the Sun?
A) Doesn't matter in the least.
B) No, it was explicitly stated to be "power of the sun buttressed by earth herself).

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That's why Val says here that if they use it again, it will tear Earth apart.

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The blast which tore apart voltron celestial wasn't even enough to destroy Earth.

Originally posted by abhilegend
A) Doesn't matter in the least.
B) No, it was explicitly stated to be "power of the sun buttressed by earth herself).

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-LZ3AJsdUi_g/Vkrq5t-iotI/AAAAAAAAIJg/msu5XkhmtUM/s1600-Ic42/RCO018.jpg

That's why Val says here that if they use it again, it will tear Earth apart.

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The blast which tore apart voltron celestial wasn't even enough to destroy Earth.
Ouch. But like I said, Hickman is a phucking idiot.

Is it too late to retract my previous endorsement?

Originally posted by zopzop
Ouch. But like I said, Hickman is a phucking idiot.

Is it too late to retract my previous endorsement?
You can. Have you seen Guardians sealing away nearly all of magic from the universe and changing the fundamental rules of the universe itself?

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The magic was so powerful it would've dissolved all of reality once it was set free.

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Do you think Galactus can do such a feat?

Originally posted by leonidas
and yet ganthet couldn't stop henshaw, a simple alpha, from draining him....? and one guardian couldn't stop prime? and relic....

but i'm not going to get into a low balling contest however because the guardians have several. hell, it can easily be argued that HAL>guardian. but it's possible they could battle galactus for energy he absorbed from them i guess--though they wouldn't be 'giving it to him' as they gave away their power initially to volthoom. much more likely that he is busy one shotting several of them at a time though. if you insist on showing their very highest feats, and painting them out to be WELL above what they are, without acknowledging any of the lesser ones that MORE than balance out the relatively few good showings, i'll be happy to highlight some for you.

what are galactus average showings then?

Let's be fair with the Sol's Anvil. It harnesses the power of the sun but focuses it on a minuscule radio when compared to the sun itself. If you were thrown into the sun like, say, mjolnir you would never really experience the full energy of the sun because it's distributed on a huge area and you're only experience a part of it. Throwing a sun at someone <<< focusing the energy of the sun in a single point.

As per Reed's own admission it's also the most powerful weapon created solely by men. This connects with an ark where the council of Reeds fought the Mad Celestials and Reed used his now-classic Celestial busting gun-from-his-closet. He also made the Anti-Galactus suit and other sh_t that sits well above herald level.

Last but not least, Galactus himself did not get koed by Sol's Anvil, giving him the durability of some one-hit-wonders as his definitive showing when he has a long history (filled with both good and terrible feats) is disingenious.

He probably still loses here but it's not as lolzy as Abhi implies awesr

Originally posted by abhilegend
It's the only showing he has in that arc. And GLs throw a sun at Galactus.


Or create a new sun.

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GG Galactus.

implication that a sun would finish off Galan?

Guardians could drain Volthoom because he was tricked by Rami and then kept imprisoned...Volthoom literally ****ed every amped and non amped high level lanterns and all the guardians while he got free...What a bad showing,"Guardians drained Volthoom"

Ganthet was highly dominated by , .Cyborg Superman when he had his own GL Ring...,in place of him,,this is Galan who consumed 4 huge planets..

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
implication that a sun would finish off Galan?
Yes, when sol's anvil ****ed up mad celestials who were superior to Galactus.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Guardians could drain Volthoom because he was tricked by Rami and then kept imprisoned...Volthoom literally ****ed every amped and non amped high level lanterns and all the guardians while he got free...What a bad showing,"Guardians drained Volthoom"

That was AFTER Guardians drained themselves to give Volthoom his power.

Which they drained from him and kept him imprisoned until they were distracted by mind controlling 1/3 of the universe and fighting literally entire GL corps, Red Lantern corps and WL Kyle.

You mean when Henshaw used Oan tech to drain Ganthet? Unlike Galactus who got drained by Quasar creating a construct and Johnny Storm powering it?

Otherwise Ganthet literally oneshotted Henshaw along with a few random GLs (disintegrated him completely when even a galaxy busting explosion couldn't do it). Just before he no sold Kyle and John together.

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Originally posted by Bentley
Let's be fair with the Sol's Anvil. It harnesses the power of the sun but focuses it on a minuscule radio when compared to the sun itself. If you were thrown into the sun like, say, mjolnir you would never really experience the full energy of the sun because it's distributed on a huge area and you're only experience a part of it. Throwing a sun at someone <<< focusing the energy of the sun in a single point.

As per Reed's own admission it's also the most powerful weapon created solely by men. This connects with an ark where the council of Reeds fought the Mad Celestials and Reed used his now-classic Celestial busting gun-from-his-closet. He also made the Anti-Galactus suit and other sh_t that sits well above herald level.

Last but not least, Galactus himself did not get koed by Sol's Anvil, giving him the durability of some one-hit-wonders as his definitive showing when he has a long history (filled with both good and terrible feats) is disingenious.

He probably still loses here but it's not as lolzy as Abhi implies awesr
The sun wasn't fully drained, it was only a small part and Earth buttressed the power of the blast.

Sol's anvil>Mad Celestials>Galactus. It's not hard to understand.

This is from Secret Wars 1 #1 page 10 (IIRC). Big G gets "annoyed" after Ultron blasts him w/ disintergration beams. They do NO damage to Big G. This is what happens to Ultron.:
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#2 has Doom confirming that Ultron was neutralized by Galactus. This could mean that Big G instantly drained Ultron, neutralized the energy w/in Ultron, or simply disrupted Ultron's power core enough to shut him down. The fact that the adamantium that Ultron was made of did NOTHING to help him even RESIST what Galactus did to him is actual PROOF that They would not be able to RESIST Galactus' attacks at al

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Originally posted by abhilegend
The sun wasn't fully drained, it was only a small part and Earth buttressed the power of the blast.

Sol's anvil>Mad Celestials>Galactus. It's not hard to understand.

A Fraction of the Sun can still be a sh_tload of energy and since you don't know exactly how big of a fraction that is you are just insisting on your wording to diminish the feat. Do I really need to explain how much bigger the Sun is compared to the Earth, let alone the beat that the Sol's Anvil launched? The intensity can still be well beyond what the Sun produces naturally per squared meter.

A random laser > Magneto > Wolverine. Not hard to understand? Try not to pass this kind of argument as common sense please.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
This is from Secret Wars 1 #1 page 10 (IIRC). Big G gets "annoyed" after Ultron blasts him w/ disintergration beams. They do NO damage to Big G. This is what happens to Ultron.:
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#2 has Doom confirming that Ultron was neutralized by Galactus. This could mean that Big G instantly drained Ultron, neutralized the energy w/in Ultron, or simply disrupted Ultron's power core enough to shut him down. The fact that the adamantium that Ultron was made of did NOTHING to help him even RESIST what Galactus did to him is actual PROOF that They would not be able to RESIST Galactus' attacks at al

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Wut? How is adamantium or Ultron supposed to factor in this?

Originally posted by Bentley
A Fraction of the Sun can still be a sh_tload of energy and since you don't know exactly how big of a fraction that is you are just insisting on your wording to diminish the feat. Do I really need to explain how much bigger the Sun is compared to the Earth, let alone the beat that the Sol's Anvil launched? The intensity can still be well beyond what the Sun produces naturally per squared meter.

It was beneath the level of power needed to tear apart the Earth as Earth was buttressing the energy attack. That's why Val said that using the sol's anvil might tear Earth apart next time. Not to mention Nu Earth was formed because sol's anvil minutely dimmed the sun.

That's the only quantifiable feat from the whole arc.



Haha, what? What kind of nonsense is this?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Wut? How is adamantium or Ultron supposed to factor in this?

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by abhilegend
Wut? How is adamantium or Ultron supposed to factor in this?
facepalm

Guardians sure are a lot more powerful than Ultron and GLs combined pack a lot more power than Ultron does.

riight.

I can show you other feats of Galan manhandling In-Betweener, The Multiversal UN which killed Abraxas being apart of Galan, and Galan beating other skyfather entities

Weakened Galactus destroyed a galaxy with one blast.


https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/3/38919/6259170-galactus+-+energy+projection+destroys+annihilation+wave+1+-+annihilation+%236.jpg

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/1/11213/3823523-8673428918-22211.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d3/3a/11/d33a1171b4571d132704eafa2350d369.jpg

Galactus nearly destroyed all realities in a fight with scrier and order if he wasn't stopped at the last minute.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/ 9q5Yqczyy0gNvg4kTFLUYmFBG41go2Zj1w47li6Bj0tibf4sti
46FOu9FLJyeO4CIsLWE6yiO3xG=s1600?fbclid=IwAR0B0o_njHop4-Bbys3UIdY5lvUh-i-PPTsohTEUWQco4e_EOW57c1kLk9Q

Time and space bent to a broken point.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/PiRO8uJbO9fWzBTQlT_J0X5O3oe33ucbJELeL9_-2owAVVm1LSrj-gC38dEyNPzrWWHTkqJ0HIb4=s1600? fbclid=IwAR1Q__hGe8Sk1mL12aW6rnPXuMoqOIZTbM7LYzTPe
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All of creation was nearly destroyed. Hmm
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/ JRK6uXKlfkm45KXcPigcBILmESO6HtWXLJgtSyPvdqNQyMvBKR
aKXwSoS9WM0G18KT4THqU0y6IH=s1600? fbclid=IwAR1BCN5YbChZYZOUJlwIQLpInDTdsVuuFXF5N4G51
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after Atrocitud by mistook released Volthoom,,Volthoom ran havoc throughout the creation and Guardians,WL Kyle,Parallax Sinestro everyone were completely helpless before him so they needed Hal to summon Nekron...

At the very first,,Henshaw was able to.imprison Ganthet,,he had his own GL ring..

Originally posted by abhilegend
It was beneath the level of power needed to tear apart the Earth as Earth was buttressing the energy attack. That's why Val said that using the sol's anvil might tear Earth apart next time. Not to mention Nu Earth was formed because sol's anvil minutely dimmed the sun.

That's the only quantifiable feat from the whole arc.

Not nearly as quantifiable as you make it up to be. Earth is essentially taking the recoil from the shot, if we were talking about a regular gun. But we know Sol's Anvil is not essentially harnessing a kinetic force and we have no way of knowing the buffering used to reduce the damage done to Earth.

Should we play the "make up bullsh_t numbers" game and compare its recoil with a M16 rifle?

"1763 Joules of kinetic energy as it leaves the muzzle, but the recoil energy of the gun is less than 7 Joules"

7= 1/2 planet bust
Around 125 planets busted out of energy.

But of course, a M16 is meant to shoot a bunch of bullets and Sol's Anvil is obviously not conceived with that in mind.

How much energy is absorbed by the structure of the Sol's Anvil itself is anyone's guess, we only know there is enough left over energy to bust the planet in two shots.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Haha, what? What kind of nonsense is this?

The exact same comparison you did, a weapon and two characters scaling. The laser killing Magneto doesn't mean it'll kill Wolverine

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
riight.

I can show you other feats of Galan manhandling In-Betweener, The Multiversal UN which killed Abraxas being apart of Galan, and Galan beating other skyfather entities

Weakened Galactus destroyed a galaxy with one blast.


https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/3/38919/6259170-galactus+-+energy+projection+destroys+annihilation+wave+1+-+annihilation+%236.jpg

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/1/11213/3823523-8673428918-22211.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d3/3a/11/d33a1171b4571d132704eafa2350d369.jpg
Galactus hardly manhandled in betweener who was getting upper hand on him at the end.

UN has made Galactus its ***** several times and actually killed him there.

Galactus only destroyed a few solar systems. Not any galaxy.

Annihilation Saga.

https://i.postimg.cc/nMQXGhFr/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/NKbFjy4J/image.jpg

Blockbusters of marvel universe
https://i.postimg.cc/cKbJfVPf/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/G8TmKX1V/image.jpg

A group of standard, mostly non named lanterns compressed mad God space sector 3600. (Mad god was a sentient space sector, and logically very, very powerful.)


Guy, as a yellow lantern, and a green lantern combined their WILLS to exponentially increase their speed, and catch up with a high warp ship neither could catch themselves.


The Corps combined, created a shield that blocked an explosion that seriously hurt Anti-Monitor.




My point is, there's a history that proves GL's power increases exponentially when multiple members are involved. The ENTIRE Corps, plus Hal (Who is really like a one man Corps at this point) plus The Guardians should definitely be in the high skyfather/abstract tier, at least.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Galactus nearly destroyed all realities in a fight with scrier and order if he wasn't stopped at the last minute.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/ 9q5Yqczyy0gNvg4kTFLUYmFBG41go2Zj1w47li6Bj0tibf4sti
46FOu9FLJyeO4CIsLWE6yiO3xG=s1600?fbclid=IwAR0B0o_njHop4-Bbys3UIdY5lvUh-i-PPTsohTEUWQco4e_EOW57c1kLk9Q

Time and space bent to a broken point.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/PiRO8uJbO9fWzBTQlT_J0X5O3oe33ucbJELeL9_-2owAVVm1LSrj-gC38dEyNPzrWWHTkqJ0HIb4=s1600? fbclid=IwAR1Q__hGe8Sk1mL12aW6rnPXuMoqOIZTbM7LYzTPe
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All of creation was nearly destroyed. Hmm
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/ JRK6uXKlfkm45KXcPigcBILmESO6HtWXLJgtSyPvdqNQyMvBKR
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after Atrocitud by mistook released Volthoom,,Volthoom ran havoc throughout the creation and Guardians,WL Kyle,Parallax Sinestro everyone were completely helpless before him so they needed Hal to summon Nekron...

At the very first,,Henshaw was able to.imprison Ganthet,,he had his own GL ring..
Right, hyperbolic comments are a thing now. Well, ZH Parallax (containing the power of the Guardians and CPB) did destroy all realities and almost recreated the infinite multiverse.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Now another of the greatest showing of Guardians' power comes from Zero Hour. Remember at this point CPB was just a focus for Guardians' own power as shown in Secret Origins 22.

https://s6.postimg.cc/7dicuiuzx/Secret_Origins_S2_022_-_Page_03.jpg

Hal absorbs the power of the CPB.

https://s6.postimg.cc/53u8jrm29/green_lantern_1994_50_pg_23.jpg
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Hal had absorbed chronal energies left after COIE to destroy time stream. Here he destroys an entire universe by opening an entropy rift. Later Extant says there are other entropy rifts he was not responsible for.

https://s6.postimg.cc/fmu88xoq5/24.jpg

https://s6.postimg.cc/l87024tpp/06.jpg

Hal kills the Time Trapper with his own power after he survives entropy hence showing the power of Guardians was greater than Entropy itself.

http://s6.postimg.cc/gzbxatm5p/image.jpg

Hal explains how he absorbed some chronal energies to destroy timestream.

https://s6.postimg.cc/5wx71iwdt/image.jpg
https://s6.postimg.cc/gl0y0d6cx/06_2.jpg

Recreating the reality was from Guardians' power and knowledge as stated.

And he actually destroyed entire creation destroying infinite timelines.

https://s6.postimg.cc/vjny8jasx/23.jpg
https://s6.postimg.cc/u4rfgxg1d/24_2.jpg

Then he starts creating his own creation using the power of Guardians. You will notice the green hue in the globes of energies which were solidifying as entire galaxies.

https://s6.postimg.cc/4s34w59wt/03.jpg https://s6.postimg.cc/edwpcg12l/04.jpg https://s6.postimg.cc/a61x3ozn1/05.jpg

Spectre and the heroes fought Parallax, the heroes absorbed the plasma universe. Hal defeats Spectre but the effort lefts him weakened and the heroes prevailed.

https://s6.postimg.cc/z4jtrrfch/image.jpg
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In the official recounting in 52 issue 7 it is stated that Hal was creating a fully fledged multiverse until Spectre stopped him.

https://s6.postimg.cc/3z06edzl9/DC52Week7-025.jpg https://s6.postimg.cc/tvtur038t/DC52Week7-026.jpg
Volthoom had drained Guardians instead when they were distracted.

Originally posted by Bentley
Not nearly as quantifiable as you make it up to be.
Why? Because you say so?

How about no? Sol's anvil used solar energy to create a blast which was buttressed by Earth which ****ed up the voltron celestials and the second use would've ripped earth apart.

It's really not that difficult unless you're a Galactus apologist. Should I consider it galaxy busting because it's not easily quantifiable?

Never did anything like this and have no intention of doing it again.

Except celestials/Galactus lacked that pesky healing factor. It was just the matter of how powerful they were.

And what a complete non sequiter. Color me surprised.

Did I ever talk about Galaxy busting? Don't strawman me please ahah

I just clarified that Sol's Anvil could very easily be beyond the damage done by "dropping a sun" into someone. I explained my reasons.

I also claimed that using ABC logic to define how resistant Galactus is makes little sense, specially considering the long history of showings we have from the same characters. We know low showings exist anyways, as a Superman fan you know it makes no sense to try to reduce a character to a few minor interactions (with characters that appear in a single arc nontheless).

If you care about Wolverine's healing factor then pick Thing instead. Would you say Thing is more powerful than Magneto? Would he have a better chance of surviving getting hit with a laser than him? You say it's clearly about "powerlevels" because that's how you wish to portray it and I give you easy examples on how similar situations cannot be about "powerlevels" at all. There is nothing self-evident about your claim.

Originally posted by Bentley
A Fraction of the Sun can still be a sh_tload of energy and since you don't know exactly how big of a fraction that is you are just insisting on your wording to diminish the feat. Do I really need to explain how much bigger the Sun is compared to the Earth, let alone the beat that the Sol's Anvil launched? The intensity can still be well beyond what the Sun produces naturally per squared meter.

A random laser > Magneto > Wolverine. Not hard to understand? Try not to pass this kind of argument as common sense please.
But that's kind of Abhi's point. It's still just a FRACTION of the Sun's energy. It doesn't matter if it's 1% or 5% or even 50%. It was less than the total energy our Sun produces.

So I stand by my one of my initial points :
A) Hickman is a phucking idiot.

Originally posted by zopzop
But that's kind of Abhi's point. It's still just a FRACTION of the Sun's energy. It doesn't matter if it's 1% or 5% or even 50%. It was less than the total energy our Sun produces.

So I stand by my one of my initial points :
A) Hickman is a phucking idiot. I agree. :3

Originally posted by zopzop
But that's kind of Abhi's point. It's still just a FRACTION of the Sun's energy. It doesn't matter if it's 1% or 5% or even 50%. It was less than the total energy our Sun produces.

So I stand by my one of my initial points :
A) Hickman is a phucking idiot.

Translation: boo hoo Hickman doesn't care about battle board bullshit. Boo f*cking hoo.

Originally posted by Bentley
Did I ever talk about Galaxy busting? Don't strawman me please ahah

You tell this.

And then this. What to believe, eh?

But that arc is the most relevant showing for Galactus as he only appeared after eating four planets in that arc.

Magneto with his shields will have better chance than Thing. It's a non sequiter because the only difference between Galactus and Celestials were power levels. It wasn't treated as if Galactus could've handled the sol's anvil better because you're comparing totally different power sets in Thing and Magneto.

Galactus would've been ****ed over by Sol's anvil too. Heck, medieval shield technology ****ed him over under Hickman.

Originally posted by abhilegend
It's the only showing he has in that arc. And GLs throw a sun at Galactus.


Or create a new sun.

https://postimg.cc/yWF8PmXt
https://postimg.cc/gnmkBxgJ
https://postimg.cc/fVbWD6nQ

GG Galactus.

yeah, great idea if you want to ensure oa has ZERO chance in this:

https://imgur.com/a/dt4APrl

i'll get to some of your other 'reasoning' later.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Right, hyperbolic comments are a thing now. Well, ZH Parallax (containing the power of the Guardians and CPB) did destroy all realities and almost recreated the infinite multiverse.


Volthoom had drained Guardians instead when they were distracted.

Their was nothing hyperbolic about it

Originally posted by leonidas
so, what? now henshaw AND prime>guardians? lol you...aren't helping my friend.




Henshaw: No. He's merely immortal, and has "hax" abilities. Taking over the Source Wall is akin to taking over Galactus's ship (Or greater), and certainly no worse then whatever he did to a Guardian.


2. Yes. Superboy Prime tanked an attack from the combined Guardians. In theory, he's the most powerful being in the DCU, if you go by history where common Earth Prime writers had special power in DC, and defeated a stacked JSA team including Doctor Fate, Alan Scott, Thunderbolt, and Spectre..

Originally posted by leonidas
yeah, great idea if you want to ensure oa has ZERO chance in this:

https://imgur.com/a/dt4APrl

i'll get to some of your other 'reasoning' later.
Yeah, they can't just beat Galactus with a solar system level blast.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Also as far as Galactus durability goes.

And two colliding planets which almost killed Galactus BTW.

http://s6d1.turboimg.net/t1/30061687_t-06-07.jpg http://s6d1.turboimg.net/t1/30061688_t-06-08.jpg http://s6d1.turboimg.net/t1/30061689_t-06-09.jpg http://s6d1.turboimg.net/t1/30061690_t-06-10.jpg

He was disintegrated by a solar system destroying attack.

http://s6d2.turboimg.net/t1/30061692_INFINTY_WARS03-16.jpg http://s6d2.turboimg.net/t1/30061693_INFINTY_WARS03-17.jpg http://s5d1.turboimagehost.com/t1/23346610_INFINTY_WARS04-07.jpg

Before anyone doubts it.

http://i.imgur.com/9uWPw7w.jpg

Flat out said that he was disintegrated.

Universal level durability, Heh.

How silly of me.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Their was nothing hyperbolic about it
Not even the solar system they were in was destroyed. You'd think before destroying the reality, they will at least destroy the solar system.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, they can't just beat Galactus with a solar system level blast.



How silly of me.

What comic is that from?

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
What comic is that from?
Which one? First is from Thanos 6, second is from Infinity War 3 and Dr Strange Sorcerer Supreme 45.

abhi, seems like you keep using the low showings of a standard, unamped Galactus.

The Galactus in this thread is amped considerably beyond his 'normal' levels, so I wouldn't say that a lot of the low-end stuff you've posted is applicable to this specific version of the character. /shrug

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, they can't just beat Galactus with a solar system level blast.



How silly of me.

disingenuous at best--the galactus in this thread is quite possibly the most powerful version we have ever seen in a comic. in a weakened state he emitted a blast that leveled star systems. prime can literally choke out a guardian, but a couple blasts>>>>>>solar system level wouldn't end every guardian? c'mon abhi.... nonsense is nonsense. stop low balling.

Originally posted by Galan007
abhi, seems like you keep using the low showings of a standard, unamped Galactus.

The Galactus in this thread is amped considerably beyond his 'normal' levels, so I wouldn't say that a lot of the low-end stuff you've posted is applicable to this specific version of the character. /shrug

we know that and he knows that. not sure why it keeps showing up though. mmm

Originally posted by Galan007
abhi, seems like you keep using the low showings of a standard, unamped Galactus.

The Galactus in this thread is amped considerably beyond his 'normal' levels, so I wouldn't say that a lot of the low-end stuff you've posted is applicable to this specific version of the character. /shrug
Again, that's Abhi's whole point. The Galactus in this thread, the 'ridiculously amped' one as you say, was outperformed by Sol's Anvil (a machine harnessing a FRACTION of the Sun's power).

Originally posted by abhilegend
You tell this.

And then this. What to believe, eh?

When you are attacked by a sun you don't get hit by but a fraction of the sun, as the star is too big for you to actually "take" the entirety of it. Think of a magnifying glass: just focusing spread energy makes it burn elements that can easily resist regular sunlight.

So yes, a fraction of the sun can indeed deal more damage than being in the sun, if it's focused.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Magneto with his shields will have better chance than Thing. It's a non sequiter because the only difference between Galactus and Celestials were power levels. It wasn't treated as if Galactus could've handled the sol's anvil better because you're comparing totally different power sets in Thing and Magneto.

Galactus would've been ****ed over by Sol's anvil too. Heck, medieval shield technology ****ed him over under Hickman.

Maybe, but it's not self-evident, which is my point awesr

Dont understand why these terrible showings keep getting mentioned for Galactus. I'm surprised you're doing this ABHI.

Originally posted by zopzop
Again, that's Abhi's whole point. The Galactus in this thread, the 'ridiculously amped' one as you say, was outperformed by Sol's Anvil (a machine harnessing a FRACTION of the Sun's power). Sol's Anvil didn't *just* tap into the energy of the Sun, iirc. Didn't it have multiple power sources(including the Negative Zone)..?

Reed also called it "the most powerful weapon ever constructed by man" or somesuch... And coming from him, that's one HELL of an accolade.

Coughteleportingintonovacough
CoughSupermanspowersourceisthesuncough

That being said, I've never really liked John Stewart even from the cartoons. Wonder why...

Cuz we wanted Hal.

And because he's black.

They should have made a full GL cartoon tbh

Originally posted by Galan007
Sol's Anvil didn't *just* tap into the energy of the Sun, iirc. Didn't it have multiple power sources(including the Negative Zone)..?

Reed also called it "the most powerful weapon ever constructed by man" or somesuch... And coming from him, that's one HELL of an accolade.

i was going to get into that when i had a chance, but yeah--it also killed a beyonder according to the council. the fact that it shattered the celestials like it did, given what the amalgamation was capable of (one shotting a 4 planet galactus...) speaks volumes to anyone not focused on low showings.

the anvil is being HILARIOUSLY undersold here. lol we've seen galactus literally feeding on a sun. if it only blasted solar energy, it wouldn't pose much of a threat to galactus at all. pretty sure it would completely eff him up though, ergo, more than just solar energy.

re: absorbing the green energy. galactus CONVERTS the energy he absorbs into the bio energy that sustains him. once it's converted i doubt very highly that the smurfs could take it back from him.

in before the inevitable--thor and hyperion killed dozens of beyonders!!1!1 lol

Originally posted by leonidas
i was going to get into that when i had a chance, but yeah--it also killed a beyonder according to the council.
We have no idea how powerful that Beyonder was.
Originally posted by leonidas
in before the inevitable--thor and hyperion killed dozens of beyonders!!1!1 lol
And there we have it. Sol's Anvil killed 1, Hype and Thor took down dozens. All on panel and all by the same writer.

Thor and Hype never killed Beyonders.
At best they smashed the physical forms of a squad of Beyonders... That's a about it.



It's funny to see how Abhi always has Surfer or Thor related characters(Galactus/Odin)on speed dial when it comes to "low showings"....

It's always a rapid fire list of em..

Their strikes surely affected those fodder-yonders, but we don't know if they were ko'd or killed or stunned or anything.

edit: celery sort of ninja'd me on this.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Thor and Hype never killed Beyonders.
At best they smashed the physical forms of a squad of Beyonders... That's a about it.
Unless I'm remembering wrong : Starbrand, THor, and Hyperion couldn't even damage ONE Beyonder and all of a sudden Thor and Hype are junking dozens (or more).

Originally posted by zopzop
Unless I'm remembering wrong : Starbrand, THor, and Hyperion couldn't even damage ONE Beyonder and all of a sudden Thor and Hype are junking dozens (or more).

C'mon.

It was just their cool "before the end" moment.

Similar to, let's say, Cap getting unfrozen and successfully tackling Thor, Iron Man and Giant Man...

https://tinyurl.com/y7vzc24n

Zopzop hates Hickman more than a juicy pussy

Hickman could write the greatest homo-erotica novel of all time and Zopzop would find a way to complain about the wieners not being portrayed consistently with the race they originate from; his preference on ball hair wasn't catered to and therefore the whole book was ruined. Junk like that

Originally posted by zopzop
Unless I'm remembering wrong : Starbrand, THor, and Hyperion couldn't even damage ONE Beyonder and all of a sudden Thor and Hype are junking dozens (or more).

When did they junk Beyonders? The Beyonders rushed in, push Thor and Hyperion back, Thor and Hyperion fight back but we didnt see any indication of a Beyonder being killed.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Zopzop hates Hickman more than a juicy pussy

Hickman could write the greatest homo-erotica novel of all time and Zopzop would find a way to complain about the wieners not being portrayed consistently with the race they originate from; his preference on ball hair wasn't catered to and therefore the whole book was ruined. Junk like that


I'll never forgive him for wrecking the Starbrand..............EVER. Phuck him.

Originally posted by Galan007
I'm honestly curious how Galactus doesn't win here? Aside from the fact that he seems a good bit more powerful with this amp, what's stopping him from devouring the GL energy as well?

Nothing.

Originally posted by Stoic
Nothing.

Like he did Celestial energy?

totally different. even ss has outright blasted galactus. lol

anyway, i can't believe ANYONE still thinks thor/hype KILLED even one beyonder. i mean seriously? wtf...?

and zop, you'd need to show that any beyonders actually varied at all in power before throwing out the alt version=weaker card. there is no proof, in all their appearances, that any ONE beyonder is different in power level from any other. to assume that is faulty, when based on what we've seen all are equal in power.

anyway, found the scan i was looking for regarding the anvil:

https://imgur.com/a/iIttxHv

"we're missing the fourth POWER SOURCE: the negative zone."



the nz was just ONE of it's power sources. clearly it was a HELLUVA LOT more then just a little beam of sunlight. can't believe i have to actually point that out...

Originally posted by leonidas
anyway, found the scan i was looking for regarding the anvil:

https://imgur.com/a/iIttxHv

"we're missing the fourth POWER SOURCE: the negative zone."



the nz was just ONE of it's power sources. clearly it was a HELLUVA LOT more then just a little beam of sunlight. can't believe i have to actually point that out...

https://s7d6.turboimg.net/t1/40247785_Fantastic_Four_603-010.jpg https://s7d6.turboimg.net/t1/40247786_Fantastic_Four_603-011.jpg https://s7d6.turboimg.net/t1/40247787_Fantastic_Four_603-012.jpg https://s7d6.turboimg.net/t1/40247788_Fantastic_Four_603-013.jpg

This was Hickman at his best. Loved that run. Oof!

Hickman's run on FF and F4 were probably among my favorite comic runs ever, tbh. The story was fantastic(no pun intended) from start to finish.

That and Hickman's S.H.I.E.L.D.

Originally posted by Damborgson
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And because he's black.

that seems like a bad reason not likin someone

Originally posted by Galan007
abhi, seems like you keep using the low showings of a standard, unamped Galactus.

srug

Posters are talking about unamped Galactus here too.

Yes, and I posted that first.

Originally posted by leonidas
anyway, found the scan i was looking for regarding the anvil:

https://imgur.com/a/iIttxHv

"we're missing the fourth POWER SOURCE: the negative zone."



the nz was just ONE of it's power sources. clearly it was a HELLUVA LOT more then just a little beam of sunlight. can't believe i have to actually point that out...

Ready for 4 pages of goal post moving, head shaking and refusal to read English ?

Originally posted by leonidas
disingenuous at best--the galactus in this thread is quite possibly the most powerful version we have ever seen in a comic.

Is he now?

He was amped, not weakened.

Originally posted by Galan007
During his fight with T&A, Galactus sustained heavy damage--his armor was devastated, and he was 'bleeding' cosmic energy:
http://imgur.com/6gkCCzF
http://imgur.com/YgVPx8h
http://imgur.com/dv3jVbd
http://imgur.com/cPqHbeD
http://imgur.com/OfsstQV

When Galactus was retrofitted with the tech Thanos devised to weaponize him, the 'bleeding' was stopped/siphoned into the machine, but his armor was still in a state of disarray:
http://imgur.com/ItS9fZx

Furthermore, it was outright stated that Galactus was starving whilst being used to Annihilus' whim, as he was only being fed "a trickle" of cosmic power--just enough to keep him alive:
http://imgur.com/Od79xHg

And all of the cosmic power from the planets he destroyed was being siphoned into the canisters:
http://imgur.com/Mcc94th
(Essentially those canisters contained the energies of numerous worlds.)

That being said, when Galactus first awoke from his imprisonment, he still looked like complete shit:
http://imgur.com/LidHShT

But when we next see Galactus, he looks very healthy(his armor and injuries are repaired), and the cosmic energy canisters are circling him:
http://imgur.com/KCtOu6j

He then goes on to unleash a galaxy-spanning wave of omnidirectional destruction:
http://imgur.com/RCxDXCG
http://imgur.com/2ja58qc
http://imgur.com/xCl8eEb


In a nutshell: given the overall magnitude/scope of the 'HMR' blast+Galactus' general appearance before and after we see the canisters encircling him, I think it's safe to assume that he was not only feeding on them, but that the energies within them were sufficient to replenish him--remember, cumulatively they contained the cosmic power of multiple planets, so Galactus being satiated from them shouldn't be out of the question, imo.

I find it that far more likely than believing that a less-than-well-nourished Galactus is responsible for preforming what is arguably his greatest on-panel display of power to date(ie. a galactic attack.) /shrug



How many times are you going to lie about it? The guardian literally overpowered Prime who was helpless against him.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/24309940/GreenLantern25-044.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/24309941/GreenLantern25-045.jpg.html

Considering Prime literally tore Monarch apart (Who IS more powerful than Galactus here), that's a pretty beastly showing.

Originally posted by Bentley
When you are attacked by a sun you don't get hit by but a fraction of the sun, as the star is too big for you to actually "take" the entirety of it. Think of a magnifying glass: just focusing spread energy makes it burn elements that can easily resist regular sunlight.

So yes, a fraction of the sun can indeed deal more damage than being in the sun, if it's focused.

Nobody said otherwise, but it's still less than energy which needs to create a sun or the full energy of the sun.

ermm

What?

Originally posted by leonidas
i was going to get into that when i had a chance, but yeah--it also killed a beyonder according to the council. the fact that it shattered the celestials like it did, given what the amalgamation was capable of (one shotting a 4 planet galactus...) speaks volumes to anyone not focused on low showings.

Yeah, this is very large circlejerk. "How powerful are Mad Celestials? They beat Galactus!!!!, how powerful was this Galactus? He beat a mad celestial!!!! Ok, how powerful was this mad celestial? Umm, it was destroyed by Sol's anvil!!!! Ok, how powerful was this sol's anvil? It was beyond 9000!!!!



Except it is just the energy of the sun.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-LZ3AJsdUi_g/Vkrq5t-iotI/AAAAAAAAIJg/msu5XkhmtUM/s1600-Ic42/RCO018.jpg

When you write the next Galactus story, you should've added that.

Yeah, nobody can drain Galactus. Isn't that right?

https://i.postimg.cc/gnsqTWXR/image.jpg

If only you could write this imaginary version of Galactus!!!

Originally posted by Galan007


Hickman's run on FF and F4 were probably among my favorite comic runs ever, tbh. The story was fantastic(no pun intended) from start to finish.

That and Hickman's S.H.I.E.L.D.

Thanks for the recommend.

Originally posted by leonidas
totally different. even ss has outright blasted galactus. lol

anyway, i can't believe ANYONE still thinks thor/hype KILLED even one beyonder. i mean seriously? wtf...?

Both Ex Nihilo and Starbrand killed a beyonder.

Then it was just a massive low showing, no matter how much you say otherwise. You don't go from one beyonder killing Eternity to getting transmuted by Ex Nihilo and getting killed by Starbrand.

That's just too much gap in power.

Originally posted by leonidas
anyway, found the scan i was looking for regarding the anvil:

https://imgur.com/a/iIttxHv

"we're missing the fourth POWER SOURCE: the negative zone."



the nz was just ONE of it's power sources. clearly it was a HELLUVA LOT more then just a little beam of sunlight. can't believe i have to actually point that out...
Those were the fixed points from where the power of the sun was channeled.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-LZ3AJsdUi_g/Vkrq5t-iotI/AAAAAAAAIJg/msu5XkhmtUM/s1600-Ic42/RCO018.jpg

It can't get any clearer than that.

Originally posted by leonidas
disingenuous at best--the galactus in this thread is quite possibly the most powerful version we have ever seen in a comic. in a weakened state he emitted a blast that leveled star systems. prime can literally choke out a guardian, but a couple blasts>>>>>>solar system level wouldn't end every guardian? c'mon abhi.... nonsense is nonsense. stop low balling.

Leo, are you referring to the HERALD MY RAGE! blast in Annihilation?

If so, Thanos verified that a weakened Galactus wiped out an entire galaxy with that gesture.

https://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/mistersinister84/Comics/th_Galactus%20Herald%20My%20Rage%203_zpsxt0djbj3.jpg

Originally posted by abhilegend
And why is that impressive again? Sol's anvil ripped the voltron celestial apart and that was just a portion of sun's power along with a few cities worth of power.
Sounds like another convenient plot device involving Reed Richards.

Anyhow, the Mad Celestials were said to be stronger than the Fourth Host, or something along those lines.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol

https://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/mistersinister84/Comics/th_Galactus%20Herald%20My%20Rage%203_zpsxt0djbj3.jpg

finally someone posted a scan confirmin hungry galactus can bust a galaxy

Originally posted by abhilegend
Galactus only destroyed a few solar systems in Annihilation.

Celestials didn't tank IG (it was in a different universe) and UN was used improperly by an alternate Reed who killed himself.

That's simply not true.

"The Galactus Obliteration Perimeter encompasses three star systems...and does not slow!"


http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/mistersinister84/Comics/th_Galactus%20Herald%20My%20Rage_zps9kpujag1.jpghttp://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/mistersinister84/Comics/th_Galactus%20Herald%20My%20Rage%202_zpskjnjacdt.jpg

Next:

"After my death, the Annihilation Wave was obliterated and the galaxy swept clean.

I witnessed this as my soul slowly evaporated from the cosmos."

https://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/mistersinister84/Comics/th_Galactus%20Herald%20My%20Rage%203_zpsxt0djbj3.jpg

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
That's simply not true.

"The Galactus Obliteration Perimeter encompasses three star systems...and does not slow!"


http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/mistersinister84/Comics/th_Galactus%20Herald%20My%20Rage_zps9kpujag1.jpghttp://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/mistersinister84/Comics/th_Galactus%20Herald%20My%20Rage%202_zpskjnjacdt.jpg

Next:

"After my death, the Annihilation Wave was obliterated and the galaxy swept clean.

I witnessed this as my soul slowly evaporated from the cosmos."

https://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/mistersinister84/Comics/th_Galactus%20Herald%20My%20Rage%203_zpsxt0djbj3.jpg some posters take the fact it says in hand books that he only destroyed few solar systems over what it says on oanel.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
That's simply not true.

"The Galactus Obliteration Perimeter encompasses three star systems...and does not slow!"


http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/mistersinister84/Comics/th_Galactus%20Herald%20My%20Rage_zps9kpujag1.jpghttp://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/mistersinister84/Comics/th_Galactus%20Herald%20My%20Rage%202_zpskjnjacdt.jpg

Next:

"After my death, the Annihilation Wave was obliterated and the galaxy swept clean.

I witnessed this as my soul slowly evaporated from the cosmos."

https://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/mistersinister84/Comics/th_Galactus%20Herald%20My%20Rage%203_zpsxt0djbj3.jpg
Galaxy was swept clean of the annihilation wave, not destroyed entirely.

https://i.postimg.cc/fS3cq0h2/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/z33FG4RC/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/5jGqYpwZ/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/mtH3QMjh/image.jpg

You can see the position where Galactus was on the first scan.

Galactus was on the edge of kree galaxy, obviously none of the kree galaxy was destroyed. Because those conquered worlds were ceded to centurions after the war.

https://i.postimg.cc/zb2vQtz5/image.jpg

So, what did Galactus actually destroy? A galaxy? No chance.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
some posters take the fact it says in hand books that he only destroyed few solar systems over what it says on oanel.
Right, because obviously kree galaxy has been destroyed and recreated off panel?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Right, because obviously kree galaxy has been destroyed and recreated off panel? it never said it destroyed the Kree galaxy. It says the Annihilation wave was swept clean from the galaxy. Meaning Annihilus forces was the thing taken care of in the blast. Just stop trying to twist everything for your gain all the time it makes you look bad.

geezus abhi, this sh!t is bad even by your own standards and you're starting to p!ss me off. i'll get to your nonsense and complete misinterpretations (i'll refrain from saying outright lies....) tomorrow at some point. seriously.

Okay, I don't see how we're still acting like Sol's Anvil *only* channeled a fraction of the sun's energy..?

It was explicitly stated on panel that the Negative Zone was only ONE of FOUR additional "POWER SOURCES" for the Anvil:

https://i.imgur.com/f4CySZs.jpg

*The energy to power the Anvil comes from a stable geothermal vent under Old Atlantis, a dynamo in the Blue Area of the moon, and the High Evolutionary's Ascension Engine, all focused through a portal to the Negative Zone.

And as we learned early in Hickman's run, all of these "POWER SOURCES" rest on a common, intertwined axis(which also helps explain why those particular sources were chosen to power the Anvil):
https://i.imgur.com/ajzaHAh.jpg

**For what it's worth, note the bottom equation- "Height of energy: infinitysquared"



And just before the Merged Celestial was blasted, ALL FOUR of those additional "POWER SOURCES" were channeled by the Anvil:

http://i.imgur.com/IPoXVuUh.jpg


Hence Reed's comment after said "POWER SOURCES" were being focused: "Powering up the weapon. Accessing nodes It's on. Energy readings are steady, and... My God, the power of this thing."




C'mon now... ermm

Abhi stop

Lol... abhi, in order for the GALAXY to be swept clean of the annihilation wave by Galactus, lol, that means that Galactus blast had to cover the entire Galaxy. If I swept a house clean of termites, that doesnt mean i just touched the living room.

Glad Carver cleared this thread all up... and his termite problem.

I like to imagine he'd wake and see his wood ripped up and thought he was just sleepcarving again for the longest time.

Phil has cheese. carver has termites. zop has dicks.

This is KMC.

Originally posted by Galan007
Okay, I don't see how we're still acting like Sol's Anvil *only* channeled a fraction of the sun's energy..?

It was explicitly stated on panel that the Negative Zone was only ONE of FOUR additional "POWER SOURCES" for the Anvil:

https://i.imgur.com/f4CySZs.jpg

*The energy to power the Anvil comes from a stable geothermal vent under Old Atlantis, a dynamo in the Blue Area of the moon, and the High Evolutionary's Ascension Engine, all focused through a portal to the Negative Zone.

And as we learned early in Hickman's run, all of these "POWER SOURCES" rest on a common, intertwined axis(which also helps explain why those particular sources were chosen to power the Anvil):
https://i.imgur.com/ajzaHAh.jpg

**For what it's worth, note the bottom equation- "Height of energy: infinitysquared"



And just before the Merged Celestial was blasted, ALL FOUR of those additional "POWER SOURCES" were channeled by the Anvil:

http://i.imgur.com/IPoXVuUh.jpg


Hence Reed's comment after said "POWER SOURCES" were being focused: "Powering up the weapon. Accessing nodes It's on. Energy readings are steady, and... My God, the power of this thing."




C'mon now... ermm
Ok, so let's assume you are 100% right and that Sol's Anvil was packing more power than just a fraction of the Sun's energy output. What does it prove?

The Rogue Celestials were a joke. Hickman's Starbrand one shot killed one of them and survived a sucker attack by another. And according to Hickman, the Starbrand is nothing more than planetary at best.

So 4 planet amp Galactus (and later Adult Franklin with Kid Franklin's power) was up against beings that were capable of being one shot killed by Hickman's Starbrand!
https://i.postimg.cc/jLKC1QgF/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/6y0Tx2F5/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/qNvqJBdc/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/JsYnGw1f/image.jpg


I'm almost 100% sure that elite GL's are packing planet busting power. Now add in the Guardians and it's lights out for poor Galactus.

I cannot be the only one fed up with the lowballing in this thread....? So the conclusion you want us to reach zop is that MULTIPLE lanterns can literally one shot celestials now? And by extension MULTIPLE lanterns can one shot starbrand. Wtf is happening in this thread?

Originally posted by leonidas
I cannot be the only one fed up with the lowballing in this thread....? So the conclusion you want us to reach zop is that MULTIPLE lanterns can literally one shot celestials now? And by extension MULTIPLE lanterns can one shot starbrand. Wtf is happening in this thread?
What's so hard to understand? The Rogue Celestials were a joke. Sue's forcefield was strong enough to withstand one Rogue Celestial blasting it. It only went down when THREE of them combined their powers to break it. Thing survived a direct him by them and was momentarily KOed. Sue broke one of their arms and Johnny with CCR melted clean through one of them (although he repaired himself).

https://i.postimg.cc/tYxtdHvH/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/ZWzPVDXv/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/21dQJ7fc/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/2qzQfLkz/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/TyCr221n/image.jpg


You telling me the elite Lanterns (Hal, Guy, John, etc...) and the more impressive Guardians (like Ganthet) are LESS powerful than Sue or Johnny with the CCR?

Originally posted by zopzop
Ok, so let's assume you are 100% right and that Sol's Anvil was packing more power than just a fraction of the Sun's energy output. What does it prove?

The Rogue Celestials were a joke. Hickman's Starbrand one shot killed one of them and survived a sucker attack by another. And according to Hickman, the Starbrand is nothing more than planetary at best.

So 4 planet amp Galactus (and later Adult Franklin with Kid Franklin's power) was up against beings that were capable of being one shot killed by Hickman's Starbrand!
https://i.postimg.cc/jLKC1QgF/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/6y0Tx2F5/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/qNvqJBdc/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/JsYnGw1f/image.jpg


I'm almost 100% sure that elite GL's are packing planet busting power. Now add in the Guardians and it's lights out for poor Galactus. Really not sure why you feel the need to constantly lowball..?

The Merged Celestial(which is what Sol's Anvil one-shotted) was obviously FAR more powerful than the individual sum of its parts. For example, this amped Galactus was able to contend with 4 Mad Celestials individually, yet was gesturely beaten/killed by a single hand-blast after they merged. That's a difference in power/scale of many orders of magnitude.

That said, the individual Mad Celestials were still portrayed as immensely powerful at the end. It was outright stated that adult Franklin could not defeat the remaining 3 by himself:
https://i.imgur.com/F3LxtWq.jpg


And in the very same issue, the Celestials themselves acknowledged that Franklin is a UNIVERSAL power:
https://i.imgur.com/njLdvzN.jpg



IOW, Sol's Anvil >>> Merged Celestial >>> amped Galactus ~/> 4 Mad Celestials > 3 Mad Celestials > a UNIVERSAL power(ie. Franklin.)

You know, I'm now going to use the statement Abhi has been using to lowball Sol's Anvil to make it look even more impressive.

"It's the energy of the Sun focused on a fixed point butressted by the planet Earth"

Why insist this is happening on a fixing point? Because what the Sol Anvil's does is an energy singularity. Can you actually put a Sun's worth of energy in no-volume at all? (which is the mathematical meaning of a point) Imagine the absurd chain reaction that would come from that. If anything this description puts the Sol Anvil's well above a weaponized black hole.

Holy sh_t Abhi, you finally made me realize what a fearful weapon this is, thanks for fixating on that line

Originally posted by zopzop
And according to Hickman, the Starbrand is nothing more than planetary at best.


I thought u said...
Originally posted by zopzop
IMHO that means he's packing a lot more than just planet busting power.
This is awkward.



I may have found the secret f XLR87t3...
mhmm

Originally posted by abhilegend
Galaxy was swept clean of the annihilation wave, not destroyed entirely.

https://i.postimg.cc/fS3cq0h2/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/z33FG4RC/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/5jGqYpwZ/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/mtH3QMjh/image.jpg

You can see the position where Galactus was on the first scan.

Galactus was on the edge of kree galaxy, obviously none of the kree galaxy was destroyed. Because those conquered worlds were ceded to centurions after the war.

https://i.postimg.cc/zb2vQtz5/image.jpg

So, what did Galactus actually destroy? A galaxy? No chance.

The scan says they were all in Kree fringe territory, not the edges of their own galaxy, which could easily mean they were in the furthest reaches of the Kree empire, which we know extends into other galaxies.

Thanos said the Annihilation Wave was obliterated AND the galaxy swept clean, not that the galaxy was swept clean of the Annihilation wave. It was an omnidirectional blast which destroyed indiscriminately, which is why we saw Galactus teleport Drax and Moondragon away to safety on an unknown planet, several planets engulfed and destroyed immediately in the blast along with a Watcher (which are supposed to be roughly on par with Celestials in power).

Next, we see an Annihilation fleet shitting themselves and fleeing Hala (which I assume is somewhere much more centered in the Kree's home galaxy), because Galactus' blast had already destroyed three star systems, and showed no signs of slowing.

Star systems. Not planetary/solar systems. Star systems.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_system



And we know even the closest stars are still pretty damned far apart.

http://boojum.as.arizona.edu/~jill/EPO/Stars/galaxy.html

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I thought u said...

This is awkward.



I may have found the secret f XLR87t3...
mhmm
My opinion is just that : MY OPINION. Hickman is the writer of that arc and we have to go by what he said on panel.

Celestials on par with Watcher power.

Wasn't Uatu killed by a plain old gun?

I mean, Nick Fury killed him. Not exactly packing Celestial power there. Even the Mindless One's are nowhere close.

Originally posted by cdtm
Celestials on par with Watcher power.

Wasn't Uatu killed by a plain old gun?

I mean, Nick Fury killed him. Not exactly packing Celestial power there. Even the Mindless One's are nowhere close.

Plenty of inconsistencies involving characters written by several different people over more than half a century.

The Watchers and the Celestials have always been at odds with each other, apparently, and it makes sense. Watchers observe the evolution of life, while Celestials manipulate it.

I'd bet on the average Celestial over the average Watcher any day, but the fact that they'd been warring for eons suggests their average power is pretty close, as neither side seems to have a number advantage over the other.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/8/85165/1678168-fantasticfourv140006.jpg

Originally posted by Galan007

IOW, Sol's Anvil >>> Merged Celestial >>> amped Galactus ~/> 4 Mad Celestials > 3 Mad Celestials > a UNIVERSAL power(ie. Franklin.)

lol you stole my scan! i intended on using the franklin comparison too.

but wait, if the celestials were going to kill franklin, a universal power (hopefully someone will come along and lowball franklin too....) then does THAT put them above high herald level? mmm

kidding aside, hickman CLEARLY intended for the celestials to be immensely powerful. i mean their implied goal was to conquer the MULTIVERSE after all, as well as being the ones responsible for the near complete destruction of the council of reeds. if you need a reminder of just what the reeds were capable of, spend some time looking back at fan four 571. just take a look at how many ultimate nullifiers they have, not to mention IG's (which helped turn the tide of the initial battle for a time) anyway, the reeds accomplished RIDICULOUS feats. and while they put up a hell of a fight, (as they damn well should have) we see them finally thrashed for good by arishem and the others in later fan four and ff issues.

the fact that the mad celestials were too powerful for franklin and finished off the reeds is MORE than enough info to gauge their overall level of power.

Originally posted by leonidas
just take a look at how many ultimate nullifiers they have
Ok? Those nullifiers were failsauce. A Rogue Celestial survived a direct hit (meanwhile Hickman's planetary level Starbrand killed one) and it took like 6 or 7 of them to put down an alt reality Galactus!