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Let's focus on fts please and refrain from using lows to determine this. Both have them. No hyperbole either. Pure strength fts.

Good question Carver. Who do you think is stronger? We saw Jane bend Adamantium with her hands, but then we also saw Gladiator grab her by the neck in what appeared to be an unbreakable grip. If I were to answer using all of the evidence across the board, I'd give Zod a slight edge in strength based on his battles against Superman.

Jane battled the Phoenix Force, Mangog, etc... battling Superman is cute and all but Jane has battled beings on a different tier than Supes.

Originally posted by carver9
Let's focus on fts please and refrain from using lows to determine this. Both have them. No hyperbole either. Pure strength fts.

Originally posted by carver9
Jane battled the Phoenix Force, Mangog, etc... battling Superman is cute and all but Jane has battled beings on a different tier than Supes.




No lowballing here.

Originally posted by carver9
Jane battled the Phoenix Force, Mangog, etc... battling Superman is cute and all but Jane has battled beings on a different tier than Supes.



That's unfair. That involved Mjolnir/God-like Power.

If you're asking who's more powerful, Jane obviously, the gap is light-years wide if you consider the Motherstorm.

But you're talking purely about physical strength here, are you not?

Originally posted by carver9
Jane battled the Phoenix Force, Mangog, etc... battling Superman is cute and all but Jane has battled beings on a different tier than Supes.



this is.....a truly awesome quote. subtle with only the barest whiff of condescension. with this quote, i declare carv has officially entered the herald tier of baiting.

Carver's just mad his favorites lose every Death Battle ever.


Sorry, Carver, beating back Superman is not "cute". He's one of the most powerful characters in comics.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
That's unfair. That involved Mjolnir/God-like Power.

If you're asking who's more powerful, Jane obviously, the gap is light-years wide if you consider the Motherstorm.

But you're talking purely about physical strength here, are you not?

She physically wrapped Mangog up in chain and threw him in the sun. She also endured the Phoenix Force.

Did she bench press the Phoenix Force?

Originally posted by cdtm
The PF wasn't even really fighting her. It was more of a conversation. To be fair, sometimes it takes a lot of strength to have a conversation.....

*winks at carver and clenches his fist*

Did Zod bench the Earth? If we are sharing fts, Mangog did chew the Destroyer arm off.

No. But..

Did Jane and Mangog have a chew-off?

So Mangog ripping off the Desteoyer arm isn't a sign of strength?

Originally posted by carver9
So Mangog ripping off the Desteoyer arm isn't a sign of strength? What's your best biting feat?

We're going by mouth feats, correct? Didn't Jane basically devour Sam Wilson's own mouth, giving him a preliminary taste of the meal to cum?

Ewwwww



Zod Stomps Handily

Post those fts please.

Originally posted by carver9
She physically wrapped Mangog up in chain and threw him in the sun. She also endured the Phoenix Force.
She didn't physically wrap Mango up. She wrapped up Mango by throwing Mjolnir at him.

However she did physically throw him into the sun.
http://i.imgur.com/xB5hyJEm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/l4IVOngm.jpg

Zod wins, with ease.

Originally posted by carver9
Jane battled the Phoenix Force, Mangog, etc... battling Superman is cute and all but Jane has battled beings on a different tier than Supes.



Battling someone isn't a strength feat.

Originally posted by carver9
Did Zod bench the Earth? If we are sharing fts, Mangog did chew the Destroyer arm off.

You are using double standards.
You are using abc logic from Hulk to Zeus. To be specific, you are proving Zeus strength based off Hulk's HIGHEST durability feats.

Yet you are against someone proving Zod's strength off Superman's strength when both battled each other as peers.

Originally posted by h1a8
Battling someone isn't a strength feat.

You probably want to read why I mentioned those showings.

Originally posted by carver9
You probably want to read why I mentioned those showings. Your argument is based off who one battles and not the details of the fight.





Originally posted by carver9
Jane battled the Phoenix Force, Mangog, etc... battling Superman is cute and all but Jane has battled beings on a different tier than Supes.

Carver, I thought we used averages?

Originally posted by h1a8
Your argument is based off who one battles and not the details of the fight.

Look at why I mentioned it. Read what was said above my post, please.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Carver, I thought we used averages?

I'm not understanding your question. I'm asking you who is stronger based off fts. Wouldn't a question like this include "all" of their fts?

Well....

If I bench 100lbs in the gym, and that's my one off best (I ate right that day, I'd been training all year, the moon was right, the gym temp was perfect etc), do we take ALL my previous benchpress performances and average them out? Or do we take the highest amount I've benched?

Then when someone asks me yo bro, you think you're stronger than me? Do I answer, well, based on the average of all my benches, etc?

DS you are needed in the Zeus thread, carver has gone off the rails again.

Zod pimp smacks her.

Originally posted by carver9
Look at why I mentioned it. Read what was said above my post, please.

Oh ok. But you understand it's about the details of the battle and not the fact that two people battled. Thing battled WWH but we all know that WWH is far stronger.
Did Zod do something in the battle that shows he is as strong as Superman?

And the beings who Jane battled, what's their average strength? What exactly what did Jane do in the battle that gives evidence that her strength is close to theirs?

If someone uses a faulty argument then you shouldn't adopt it because it would make your character win. Explain the faultiness of their argument and argue accordingly.

Question?
Where was Jane when she threw Mangog into the Sun?

zod beats her to death.

Originally posted by h1a8
Question?
Where was Jane when she threw Mangog into the Sun?
Asgardia.
Near the earth moon system.

I thought Asgardia was getting closer to the Sun:
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11135/111356611/6516938-0885952219-RCO01.jpg

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I thought Asgardia was getting closer to the Sun:
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11135/111356611/6516938-0885952219-RCO01.jpg
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
She didn't physically wrap Mango up. She wrapped up Mango by throwing Mjolnir at him.

However she did physically throw him into the sun.
http://i.imgur.com/xB5hyJEm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/l4IVOngm.jpg

Yeah but I was questioning the earth moon system part.

Top right, that's the moon:
https://imgur.com/l4IVOng

She threw him from near Earth Space to the Sun and he leaped back almost instantly.

You can clearly see the moon in the scan.

I thought that was Mercury.

Because if he leapt back nearly instantly, and by then Asgardia is already burning up....that's pretty poor durability if it's next to us, and is burning due to it's proximity.

Mercury from Wikipedia:

https://i.postimg.cc/7Z6dfdq4/1200px-Mercury-in-color-Prockter07-edit1.jpg

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Top right, that's the moon:
https://imgur.com/l4IVOng

She threw him from near Earth Space to the Sun and he leaped back almost instantly.

Then why say, "Odinson, get out of here! We're too close to the sun! Asgardia is going up in flames!"

And mercury looks like a moon too.

Oh hey, you guys are talking about suns?

Sentinels beat Asgard imo

https://i.imgur.com/xJMaSqk.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/AELi9X2.jpg

Thorbags will never hear the end of it.

Thor admits that the sun won't stop him or Mangog...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11125/111251575/6344271-0466564282-EY78I.jpg

Dont know why this showing is so clingy to people.

What are you viewing that on bud? Your screen height is like 8 inches tall by 32 wide

I'm just responding to h1s question about the distance.....

Originally posted by One Big Mob
What are you viewing that on bud? Your screen height is like 8 inches tall by 32 wide

Back in March 2018.

"Did Jason Aaron forget to close duplicate tabs?"

carver uses the same website i do for online comics

Originally posted by MrMind
carver uses the same website i do for online comics

Pornhub.com?

more of a heavy-r guy myself

Originally posted by carver9
Thor admits that the sun won't stop him or Mangog...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11125/111251575/6344271-0466564282-EY78I.jpg

Dont know why this showing is so clingy to people.
Except to the part where Mangog died in the sun.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-72_mNXjC0Zk/WuCk4I9nFlI/AAAAAAAACOw/0DRTymTLcZQvI6OSVmdw0K9uvxKTlP-EwCHMYCw/s1600/RCO002.jpg

It's Thor, what part of him being an idiot is hard to understand?

Originally posted by carver9
Jane battled the Phoenix Force, Mangog, etc... battling Superman is cute and all but Jane has battled beings on a different tier than Supes.



Savage

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Savage

what's so savage about battling beings in a lower tier than superman?

Originally posted by MrMind
what's so savage about battling beings in a lower tier than superman?

Must i explain the nuances of my every post?

It's a double entendre. Im "loling" at the flippant remark of cute by Carver whilst at the same time making a subtle jib at his Hulk fanboyism by calling him savage.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85

Yeah the ships never made it past the moon. A bunch of em got destroyed when Mango jumped back. it's why they were waiting at the moon for Odinson at the end of the story.

Yeah so...

These high school kids have launched satellites into space, which don't burn up due to their proximity to the sun:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irvinestandard.com/2018/irvine-students-launch-second-satellite-in-a-month/amp/

But those are good old fashioned, yeehaw, rootin tootin US of A gumption and know how.

How about things 'made in China'?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/science-environment-46724727

IOW, you're telling me that Asgardian items have such piss poor durability that high school student science projects have better durability?

Mercury looks remarkably like the moon (see my pic above). It's still a major feat to throw something by hand from Mercury to the Sun, not saying it isn't.

I just don't think they were in the Earth/moon system, considering Asgardia was burning down due to it's proximity. That shaves a mere 100million km of distance off.

Wait start over.

Asgardia was already partially burning up because of mango's attack. destroyer beams, magic attacks maybe, lightning from Odinson, etc... it started to burn even more when Jane showed up with a variety of lightning attacks. Guess what? It burned even more when Mango brought his dumb@$$ back from the sun and caused a big explosion. He literally brought fire from the sun back to Asgardia while they were around the earth moon system. Hence why Asgardia was burning up long before it reached the Sun.

A bunch of them never made it out of the earth moon system. They ended up parking themselves at the moon and waited for Odinson.


Satellites into space? what are u smokin my friend?

The dialogue made it very clear. Asgardia was burning due to it's proximity to the sun. See Carver's post above. Odinson, get out of here, we're too close to the Sun, Asgardia is going up in flames!!

You said that they were in the Earth Moon system. I'm just finding it funny that high school science projects - also in the Earth Moon system - don't burn up, yet Asgardia does.

It was a moon, not really THE moon though

https://i.imgur.com/zWZiIxu.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/j8zO3Mf.jpg

I think saint should battlezone this.

That's absolutely fine, if that was where Asgardia was. Like I said, it's just funny that some kid in Iowa can build something that is more durable than Asgard.

https://i.imgur.com/pHE8fho.jpg

yeah baby stretch it out...

Asgardians to be evaporated at the ecuator confirmed.

Originally posted by MrMind
yeah baby stretch it out... Bran is the new Carver.

Wait so it's even worse than I thought, lol.

At this rate Superman would evaporate the entirety of Asgard if he so much as glares at them....

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Wait so it's even worse than I thought, lol.

At this rate Superman would evaporate the entirety of Asgard if he so much as glares at them.... Nah, they drove it into/at the sun. Just confirming that it is in fact in this solar system.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
The dialogue made it very clear. Asgardia was burning due to it's proximity to the sun. See Carver's post above. Odinson, get out of here, we're too close to the Sun, Asgardia is going up in flames!!

You said that they were in the Earth Moon system. I'm just finding it funny that high school science projects - also in the Earth Moon system - don't burn up, yet Asgardia does.
Lol..
It doesn't necessarily just mean it was burning up because of proximity to the sun. Asgardia was burning already and it was heading towards the sun.

But in any case, Asgardia had already left the earth moon system by that time.
Jane and Odinson were the only ones left.

Btw this is the page right after Carver's scan. The ships were wrecked by the moon. Notice Freyja's line.
https://readcomicsonline.ru/comic/the-mighty-thor-2015/705/14

Asgardia got this close before it blew up. So it was creeping closer the whole time. Still not great, but you know, not Earth's moon

https://i.imgur.com/8aRU4ba.jpg

So with regards to h1s original q - where were they when Thor threw Mangog into the Sun?

It's funny how we ignore all the times Thor and Mjolnir have been in and fought in stars but focus on this one. Haters.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So with regards to h1s original q - where were they when Thor threw Mangog into the Sun?
By the moon.
Near Earth moon system.
Around the moon.
Way before mercury.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
By the moon.
Near Earth moon system.
Around the moon.
Way before mercury.



Lol and that's too close to the Sun, for Asgardian tastes, as per dialogue

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So with regards to h1s original q - where were they when Thor threw Mangog into the Sun? IDK lol

It's either Mercury or Earth's moon judging from our solar system. Which brings about some questions of how Aaron understands our solar system.

I'll investigate it a little further. Sherlock Brans is on the case

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol and that's too close to the Sun, for Asgardian tastes, as per dialogue
That dialogue most likely happened when they were fairly close to the sun and way past the moon(logically speaking). Plus it was already burning to shiet anyway.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Top right, that's the moon:
https://imgur.com/l4IVOng

She threw him from near Earth Space to the Sun and he leaped back almost instantly.

I was going off this.

If he leapt back 'near instantly', I mean...sure, Asgardia COULD have travelled from our Moon to near the Sun in that 'near instant' time..... Some 100million km nearly instantly....

Yep.
He was back in Asgardia. Jane kept fighting Mango.. Instead of joining the other Assgardians to the moon, Odinson made his way into Asgardia. Asgardia kept flying to the sun. Fighting fighting.. There's a break in the fight(Mango was recovering from getting his eye punched out and tail chopped off. During the pause, Jane tells Odinson to leave("close to the sun, asgardia in flames". Asgardia keeps flying to the sun. Jane wraps Mango up. throws mew mew to the sun. Asgardia keeps flying and burning. At the sun... Kaboom!