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Bernie Sanders Launches 2020 Presidential Campaign; No Longer an Underdog




Already started donating to his campaign on a monthly basis in January, and now that he's officially announced his candidacy, I'll be making a larger contribution immediately.

Age is irrelevant as long as he remains in relatively good health, cognitively sharp, and in touch with the issues facing the nation's people. A good Vice President running mate makes the age argument even more irrelevant.

As far as the competition from other Democratic candidates running, who've jumped on the bandwagon of many of his ideas from 2016, Sanders has a much better and longer track record of defending his ideals, without the money and influence of special interest groups.

I hope the Democrats learned their lesson from 2016, and don't try to **** him over in the primaries this time.

F*ck him and his socialism.

Originally posted by Impediment
F*ck him and his socialism.

There it is.

I was expecting a shout-out to Venezuela, too, though.

**** the Trust, brother.

He won't win for the same reason he lost in 2016: He has intriguing domestic policies, but his international policies are practically non-existent. We are living in a shitty world, and he's a little too clean to handle it

I don't think he'll get very far this time with all the newer and younger voices that will be in the Dem lineup. We'll see though, Bernie may surprise.

Originally posted by Robtard
I don't think he'll get very far this time with all the newer and younger voices that will be in the Dem lineup. We'll see though, Bernie may surprise.

They definitely muddy the waters, but I have strong doubts any of them are as committed to the causes. It's just convenient to champion them leading up to the next election.

Age is a huge factor with Bernie as it is with most candidates that are 70 plus.

I believe his influence from the last presidential cycle will make it so that more Democrats will pick up pieces of what he has presented far more than the Hillary democrats.

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Will be fun to watch the Democrat Party at first support him and then throw him under the bus....AGAIN!!!!!

Originally posted by snowdragon
Age is a huge factor with Bernie as it is with most candidates that are 70 plus.

I believe his influence from the last presidential cycle will make it so that more Democrats will pick up pieces of what he has presented far more than the Hillary democrats.
The age argument is ****ing retarded. He's in good health, is still mentally sharp and sound, and a good VP choice would ensure his policies would be fought for should something happen to him while in office.

At the end of a first term, Sanders would be about 82. At the end of a second term, he'd be about 86. Johnson died at Nixon died at 81. Ford died at 93. Carter is still alive and well at 94, in spite of a cancer scare a few years ago. Ronald Reagan died at 94 (though he was clearly showed signs of mental decline even while in office). Bush Sr. died at 94. Trump is almost as old at 72, and plenty of his supporters want him for a second term, and he's by far the most out-of-touch president we've had in living memory, if not ever.

Would be funny as hell to see Bernie win and then die on his way to the podium at his inauguration.

No wonder you are a Trumper no empathy and just silliness.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No wonder you are a Trumper no empathy and just silliness. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/0/racism-inter-species-marriage-child-abduction-un-disney-world/

These are the real idiots. :3

Originally posted by quanchi112
No wonder you are a Trumper no empathy and just silliness.

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Silliness galore.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
The age argument is ****ing retarded. He's in good health, is still mentally sharp and sound, and a good VP choice would ensure his policies would be fought for should something happen to him while in office.

At the end of a first term, Sanders would be about 82. At the end of a second term, he'd be about 86. Johnson died at Nixon died at 81. Ford died at 93. Carter is still alive and well at 94, in spite of a cancer scare a few years ago. Ronald Reagan died at 94 (though he was clearly showed signs of mental decline even while in office). Bush Sr. died at 94. Trump is almost as old at 72, and plenty of his supporters want him for a second term, and he's by far the most out-of-touch president we've had in living memory, if not ever.

It is stupid as age shouldn't matter as you said if a potential president still has their cognitive abilities, but it does matter to some degree when it comes to voters, this is just a fact. "He's too old" will be a talking point against Sanders.

As does nonsense points like physical appearance; even more so for a female candidate. eg remember how "she's ugly!" was used to attack Clinton over and over and "you want to look at that hideous face for 4-8 years!?". Remember how Republicans pushed heavily on Paul Ryans "sexy abs!" as a talking point when he was Romney's VP? Physical appearance and sexual attraction is a thing in elections.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Silliness galore.


Oh How I Do Adore!!!!!

If I wasn't so lazy and had more time, I'd list all of the things I didn't like that he mentioned. Gender pay gap has long been debunked and shouldn't be uttered by any politicians espousing science-based policies. That's one.

But, yes, I will consider voting for Bernie. Especially if he is on board with the anticorruption act and Represent Us movement.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
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The "too old, too white, too male" argument is absolute bullshit. You should vote for a candidate based on their ideas and positions on the issues, not the inevitable circumstances of birth and time.

She made a very stupid argument against Sanders, there, especially since he does represent a minority as a Jewish man.

Would she also say someone is too black, too brown, or too yellow to vote for? No, and she'd be ostracized for even mentioning it, as she should be here for saying someone is too white and too old.

Should we just take turns voting for the most racially diverse candidates running, regardless of their positions and track records, just to ensure every group is represented in office? Of course not.

Can any of the other Democratic candidates boast fighting against racial, sex/gender, and economic inequality as much as Sanders can? As far as I see, most are just watered down versions of Sanders who adopted his policies when they gained popularity and it became politically convenient to do so.

I think a Sanders/Warren or a Sanders/Gabbard ticket is the way to go into 2020.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
I think a Sanders/Warren or a Sanders/Gabbard ticket is the way to go into 2020.

Drop Warren. She shouldn't be anywhere near the presidential ticket. Add Donna Braizile. Well, actually, make Donna Brazile the front runner and Bernie the running mate.

Originally posted by Robtard
It is stupid as age shouldn't matter as you said if a potential president still has their cognitive abilities, but it does matter to some degree when it comes to voters, this is just a fact. "He's too old" will be a talking point against Sanders.

As does nonsense points like physical appearance; even more so for a female candidate. eg remember how "she's ugly!" was used to attack Clinton over and over and "you want to look at that hideous face for 4-8 years!?". Remember how Republicans pushed heavily on Paul Ryans "sexy abs!" as a talking point when he was Romney's VP? Physical appearance and sexual attraction is a thing in elections.

Oh, I remember, and it'll happen again and again, because too many of our fellow Americans are shallow morons. I remember the idiots lining up in support of Sarah Palin because she was hot, and I'll bet a good chunk of Gabbard's support will be down to the fact that she's also very beautiful. It's still pretty goddamned stupid, though.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
Oh, I remember, and it'll happen again and again, because too many of our fellow Americans are shallow morons. I remember the idiots lining up in support of Sarah Palin because she was hot, and I'll bet a good chunk of Gabbard's support will be down to the fact that she's also very beautiful. It's still pretty goddamned stupid, though.


I remember when they used to say that about Hillary.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
The "too old, too white, too male" argument is absolute bullshit. You should vote for a candidate based on their ideas and positions on the issues, not the inevitable circumstances of birth and time.

She made a very stupid argument against Sanders, there, especially since he does represent a minority as a Jewish man.

Would she also say someone is too black, too brown, or too yellow to vote for? No, and she'd be ostracized for even mentioning it, as she should be here for saying someone is too white and too old.

Should we just take turns voting for the most racially diverse candidates running, regardless of their positions and track records, just to ensure every group is represented in office? Of course not.

Can any of the other Democratic candidates boast fighting against racial, sex/gender, and economic inequality as much as Sanders can? As far as I see, most are just watered down versions of Sanders who adopted his policies when they gained popularity and it became politically convenient to do so.

I think a Sanders/Warren or a Sanders/Gabbard ticket is the way to go into 2020.

It is obviously satire. She is leveling the same criticisms against Sanders as were leveled against Clinton. That people find them outrageous and unfair when directed at a man, but not when they were directed at a woman is the entire point.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Drop Warren. She shouldn't be anywhere near the presidential ticket. Add Donna Braizile. Well, actually, make Donna Brazile the front runner and Bernie the running mate.

I'm skeptical of Warren as well. She talks a good game, but I have my doubts she'll fully back up some of the things she's running on, like Medicare for All. Of those running and that I'm familiar with, she and Gabbard seem like the strongest running mates for Sanders.

I'm not too familiar with Donna Brazile or her political positions. Just checked her Wiki entry though, and this quote made me laugh:

"these sad ass whipper leakers try to slow my groove".

Yeah, there should be a min age to run for pres and max age, when you are a decade past social security retirement, you are too old to run for us presidency.

The biology and physiology of aging is a mf-er.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
It is obviously satire. She is leveling the same criticisms against Sanders as were leveled against Clinton. That people find them outrageous and unfair when directed at a man, but not when they were directed at a woman is the entire point.

I didn't pick up on it. Seemed like a genuine criticism she had, but if satire was the intent, she could have pulled that off a lot better.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
I'm skeptical of Warren as well. She talks a good game, but I have my doubts she'll fully back up some of the things she's running on, like Medicare for All. Of those running and that I'm familiar with, she and Gabbard seem like the strongest running mates for Sanders.

I'm not too familiar with Donna Brazile or her political positions. Just checked her Wiki entry though, and this quote made me laugh:

"these sad ass whipper leakers try to slow my groove".

I think she's got the moxie needed to bring down Trump when they go head to head. Trump would crumble before her.


She has some other no-punches-pulled quotes, too.

Originally posted by snowdragon
Yeah, there should be a min age to run for pres and max age, when you are a decade past social security retirement, you are too old to run for us presidency.

The biology and physiology of aging is a mf-er.

Unsure about that. There are a few dudes I've met at the gym that are stronger and in better shape at 75 than almost any body at any gym.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I think she's got the moxie needed to bring down Trump when they go head to head. Trump would crumble before her.


She has some other no-punches-pulled quotes, too.

Seems like it, but what does she support that would earn your vote over Sanders or any else running in 2020?

Originally posted by dadudemon
Unsure about that. There are a few dudes I've met at the gym that are stronger and in better shape at 75 than almost any body at any gym.

Yes. Millennials are Far from being anything like the GREATEST Generation.


Poor little Cucks. They will never be able to measure up.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I think she's got the moxie needed to bring down Trump when they go head to head. Trump would crumble before her.


She has some other no-punches-pulled quotes, too.

Precisely. People want to act like politicians past a certain age are Alzheimer's victims just moments away from death. Plenty of healthy and fit old people around, and probably many more sharp, intelligent, and wise old people than that.

If they are mentally sound, have no evident critical health concerns, and are in touch with the issues being faced, then there is no reason why any elderly person should not run for any government office.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
Seems like it, but what does she support that would earn your vote over Sanders or any else running in 2020?

She's vaguely less socialist than Bernie but is a super strong supporter of LGBT rights.

She's also nebulously a middle of the road democrat which gets us universal healthcare, prison reform, and immigration reform.

Other than those, there's not much to get her on. I haven't see her talk much beyond those issues.

Edit - Donna Brazile also said this about the Democrats wanting her (Donna) to be quiet about the rigged primary against Bernie (DNC controversy):

"For those telling me to shutup, they told Hillary that a couple of months ago , you know what I tell them? Go to hell."


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Still think it's going to be Biden with one of the women candidates as VP, at this point.

We'll see though, still got time.

Though on a personal level I'd love a woman President to beat Trump. Trump and Trumper egos would be crushed beyond repair.

Not really, I would vote for AOC even Gillibrand

LOl, no.

You cant tell me who I would or would not vote for. Another one of your "i know better then you" ideas?

Yes, I can here. Because of your many previous stances, positions and comments. You're going to vote for Trump again in 2020. It is known and it's okay.

Robbie is now crying on the inside.

Originally posted by Robtard
Yes, I can here. Because of your many previous stances, positions and comments. You're going to vote for Trump again in 2020. It is known and it's okay.

Ill vote for him again, so? He does a good job. AOC isnt even old enough to run. If Gillibrand makes it to the nom, and doesnt lose her shit, I would probbably vote for her, because I happen to like her. But its going to be Biden vs Trump. So Ill vote for Trump.

Am I not allowed to vote for who I want Rob?

Originally posted by Robtard
Still think it's going to be Biden with one of the women candidates as VP, at this point.

We'll see though, still got time.

Though on a personal level I'd love a woman President to beat Trump. Trump and Trumper egos would be crushed beyond repair.

I think Biden in 2020 will be akin to Jeb Bush in 2016: a generally unlikable and unremarkable establishment candidate who seems like the sure bet, but will be outshined by others who are more passionate about one thing or another.

There's also the thing about him being a creep around kids that will cost him voter support.

Ill just leave this here.

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Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Ill vote for him again, so? He does a good job. AOC isnt even old enough to run. If Gillibrand makes it to the nom, and doesnt lose her shit, I would probbably vote for her, because I happen to like her. But its going to be Biden vs Trump. So Ill vote for Trump.

Am I not allowed to vote for who I want Rob?

I literally said that you're going to vote for Trump again and that it's fine.

ps Trump's a shitstorm

Its obviously not fine, now voting for who you want makes you a racist sexist, xenophoic etc etc, basically your party or whatever party you are apart of is trying to make people not vote for anyone but who they want you to.

Originally posted by Robtard
Though on a personal level I'd love a woman President to beat Trump. Trump and Trumper egos would be crushed beyond repair.

That would be glorious. The tears...I can only imagine.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
I think Biden in 2020 will be akin to Jeb Bush in 2016: a generally unlikable and unremarkable establishment candidate who seems like the sure bet, but will be outshined by others who are more passionate about one thing or another.

There's also the thing about him being a creep around kids that will cost him voter support.

That's a fair enough assessment, but I think a lot of people will want Biden due to the belief that he can beat Trump. As I said, what I feel right now, that could very well change when people start campaigning hard and we get into the debates.

Personally, I'd rather have Sanders if it'e either or.

Originally posted by dadudemon
That would be glorious. The tears...I can only imagine.

When Trump loses in 2020 the schadenfreude I'll be absorbing from Trumper's butthurt will make my power levels rise to unfathomable levels. Trump will be a one-term loser and that will go down in history, along with "most corrupt President ever."

Originally posted by Robtard
When Trump loses in 2020 the schadenfreude I'll be absorbing from Trumper's butthurt will make my power levels rise to unfathomable levels. Trump will be a one-term loser and that will go down in history, along with "most corrupt President ever."



Might I suggest giving your Shatner pics a Super Saiyan hairdo if that happens?

Originally posted by Eternal Idol


Might I suggest giving your Shatner pics a Super Saiyan hairdo if that happens?

Suggestion noted and will be implemented!

Speaking of, in May I'm going to see a screening of Wrath of Khan and than have a live Q&A with Shatner himself. Can't wait, his ego is legendary.

Shatner is pretty good at putting SJW-tards in their place.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol


Might I suggest giving your Shatner pics a Super Saiyan hairdo if that happens?

Originally posted by Robtard
Suggestion noted and will be implemented!

Alright. This must happen.

Have PVS do it: he's good with PS.



Originally posted by Robtard
Speaking of, in May I'm going to see a screening of Wrath of Khan and than have a live Q&A with Shatner himself. Can't wait, his ego is legendary.

If the questions are not too numerous, ask Shatner if he was born with his legendary Casanova persona or if he had to cultivate it for years before his iconic role as Captain Kirk.

Originally posted by Robtard
Suggestion noted and will be implemented!

Speaking of, in May I'm going to see a screening of Wrath of Khan and than have a live Q&A with Shatner himself. Can't wait, his ego is legendary.

Born 1931, Trek career started 1966-68.

Nearly 40, and a sex symbol. Shatner is an inspiration to old men everywhere.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Alright. This must happen.

Have PVS do it: he's good with PS.





If the questions are not too numerous, ask Shatner if he was born with his legendary Casanova persona or if he had to cultivate it for years before his iconic role as Captain Kirk.


You know the answer will be something like "I was born with it."

Originally posted by Robtard
When Trump loses in 2020 the schadenfreude I'll be absorbing from Trumper's butthurt will make my power levels rise to unfathomable levels. Trump will be a one-term loser and that will go down in history, along with "most corrupt President ever."

Just to be clear this is your actual position?

Originally posted by cdtm
Born 1931, Trek career started 1966-68.

Nearly 40, and a sex symbol. Shatner is an inspiration to old men everywhere.

Shatner was a good looking dude in his youth. Why do you thing the writers/directors had him in love scenes and tearing his shirt many a time.

TIL: The Democrats and Republicans of 150+ ago are the same as today.

Listen, I get it that you're trying to reinvent yourself with "both sides have good and both sides have bad", but you spent all of 2016-2017 screaming how Demoracts are evil so it's going to take some time to wash that away, Trumper.

Originally posted by Robtard
Shatner was a good looking dude in his youth. Why do you thing the writers/directors had him in love scenes and tearing his shirt many a time.

Oh yeah, just look at his Twilight Zones. They broke the mold with Shatner.

People laugh at his Rocket Man, but the fact is, he could get away with it.

Sanders beating Trump would be a spectacle to behold.

What black magic is gonna keep Bernie a live until 2024?

Originally posted by Surtur
What black magic is gonna keep Bernie a live until 2024?
Nothing magical about baby blood. The stuff's been keeping the Clintons, the Bushes(for the most part), Trump, Ford, Carter, etc. alive just fine.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Nothing magical about baby blood. The stuff's been keeping the Clintons, the Bushes(for the most part), Trump, Ford, etc. alive just fine.

I always knew deep down babies were good for more than just punching.

Originally posted by Surtur
What black magic is gonna keep Bernie a live until 2024?
It's not crazy for someone to live past 82, dude...especially when they're active and in pretty decent shape, without any known critical health concerns. We've already seen four of the last eight president reach their mid-90s. Besides, should the president die in office, the vice president continues where the president left off. It's such a pointless argument to make.

My great-grandfather reached his mid-90s, and he was the type of man who would always work around the house with a beer ready in his back pocket at all times well into his 80s. He also ate whatever the **** he wanted.

I find it odd that the same people who are doing the "Bernie is too old, there's a good chance he'll die while in office" angle are the same people who have no problem with the fact that Trump is 72, grossly obese and has the piss poor diet of a high school kid.

Now, I don't care over the fact that Trump eats a steady diet of salt and processed fats, even though this does set a bad example for our youth, but I also don't care that Sanders is 77.

I find it odd you guys took a comment about black magic and Bernie Sanders seriously.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
It's not crazy for someone to live past 82, dude...especially when they're active and in pretty decent shape, without any known critical health concerns. We've already seen four of the last eight president reach their mid-90s. Besides, should the president die in office, the vice president continues where the president left off. It's such a pointless argument to make.

My great-grandfather reached his mid-90s, and he was the type of man who would always work around the house with a beer ready in his back pocket at all times well into his 80s. He also ate whatever the **** he wanted.

You keep bringing up how long people live until and constantly blow past the fact that as you age you have diminished capacities. How long someone lives isn't the story of how effective they are at those ages. If someone comes along in the campaign that is maybe 75% Bernie politics but significantly younger they will probably get the votes.

It's a biological fact, you have less stamina, less focus, less everything except wisdom. Trying to sell age as a nonfactor because a vp can step up to the plate is a total sham because no one is voting for the vp regardless of their intentions in office.

Legit mentioned black magic along with it, figured it was a giveaway.

It's not just about you, Mr. Selfimportant. The "Bernie is too old, he might die in office" angle was had in 2016, do you think it won't be had in 2019?

Lulz, I'll bet a chunk of that executive time trump has are naps, exerting himself (ie eating) all his crap food.

Originally posted by Robtard
It's not just about you, Mr. Selfimportant. The "Bernie is too old, he might die in office" angle was had in 2016, do you think it won't be had in 2019?

But I was quoted. Someone quoted The Surt and you gotta deal with the consequences.

I don't think it's wise for the right to laugh off Bernie.

I think he's a serious threat. Unlike Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, Kamala Harris, Michael Avenatti and Cory Booker, the dude is actually capable of generating a cult of personality and coming across as sincere rather than making everyone cringe on the inside at obvious unlikeability and virtue signalling.

Additionally, He's one of the few candidates on the left who doesn't treat working class white people with utter contempt.

And Bernie has a cult following too.

That's like one whackjob guy in Florida, hardly a Cult.

How god damn dare you insult their religion. This shit matters. It's important.

Sanders supporters don't do the "God wills him to be President", at least not that I've seen thus far. That seems something largely cornered by the Cult of Trump and their love of saying Trump was divinely chosen.

Originally posted by Robtard
Sanders supporters don't do the "God wills him to be President", at least not that I've seen thus far. That seems something largely cornered by the Cult of Trump and their love of saying Trump was divinely chosen.

They don't need to do the "god wills him" type shit for it to be a cult.

You said "religion", why I went there. But if you want to call Bernie supporters "cultist", I don't really care. It honestly just looks like you're tying to equalize Trumper's lunatic cult behavior now that Sanders could be a a potential huge player in 2019.

Originally posted by Robtard
You said "religion", why I went there. But if you want to call Bernie supporters "cultist", I don't really care. It honestly just looks like you're tying to equalize Trumper's lunatic cult behavior now that Sanders could be a a potential huge player in 2019.

It's like a religion bro.

I also don't need to try to equalize anything lol, leftist cultists lunatic behavior far outweighs anything Trumpers do. This will not be debated.

Originally posted by Surtur
Legit mentioned black magic along with it, figured it was a giveaway.
Sorry, man. It's hard to read tone through text. Thought you were joining Camp Young & Shiny there.



Originally posted by snowdragon
You keep bringing up how long people live until and constantly blow past the fact that as you age you have diminished capacities. How long someone lives isn't the story of how effective they are at those ages. If someone comes along in the campaign that is maybe 75% Bernie politics but significantly younger they will probably get the votes.

It's a biological fact, you have less stamina, less focus, less everything except wisdom. Trying to sell age as a nonfactor because a vp can step up to the plate is a total sham because no one is voting for the vp regardless of their intentions in office.
That doesn't mean much when Bernie hasn't shown any major signs of mental deterioration. He's still sharp and capable, so it's a weak argument to use his age against him until he does.

Even if the majority of voters don't give a **** about the vice president, it's still an important office as a contingency should something happen to the president. There's a chain of command, that's how our system is set up, and that's why it's important to pick a running mate with similar values and policies.

Originally posted by Surtur
It's like a religion bro.

I also don't need to try to equalize anything lol, leftist cultists lunatic behavior far outweighs anything Trumpers do. This will not be debated.


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If you don't want to watch, this Trumper claims that Turmp is God's chosen one and if you go against Trump, you against God and God will curse you, your children, your grandchildren etc. 'Like a religion", indeed.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol




That doesn't mean much when Bernie hasn't shown any major signs of mental deterioration. He's still sharp and capable, so it's a weak argument to use his age against him until he does.

Even if the majority of voters don't give a **** about the vice president, it's still an important office as a contingency should something happen to the president. There's a chain of command, that's how our system is set up, and that's why it's important to pick a running mate with similar values and policies.

Conservatives are very big on who the VP is, actually. It was a major selling point when Bush Jr picked Cheney and it was a major selling point when Trump picked Pence.

iirc, Reagan picking Bush Sr was another major selling point.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
I don't think it's wise for the right to laugh off Bernie.

I think he's a serious threat. Unlike Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, Kamala Harris, Michael Avenatti and Cory Booker, the dude is actually capable of generating a cult of personality and coming across as sincere rather than making everyone cringe on the inside at obvious unlikeability and virtue signalling.

Additionally, He's one of the few candidates on the left who doesn't treat working class white people with utter contempt.

I do see his age as a problem it's just how life works, I don't see him as a threat though. It would have been better for bernie to have won the primaries over hillary in 2016 imo.



Yeah, he's totally there and after that last interview he probably took a 30 minute nap afterwards

Originally posted by Robtard
Conservatives are very big on who the VP is, actually. It was a major selling point when Bush Jr picked Cheney and it was a major selling point when Trump picked Pence.

iirc, Reagan picking Bush Sr was another major selling point.
Could it be because those specific presidential candidates were inexperienced and/or a bit on the stupid side, and needed someone more qualified to keep them in line, if not replace them altogether?

Ideas are foremost for me, whether voting democrat or republican, and Bernie's ideas are not the best.

Originally posted by snowdragon
I do see his age as a problem it's just how life works, I don't see him as a threat though. It would have been better for bernie to have won the primaries over hillary in 2016 imo.



Yeah, he's totally there and after that last interview he probably took a 30 minute nap afterwards

Maybe he did. Maybe he was up all night preparing his statements, or celebrating with a Cialis-fueled orgy. Point is, these would all be baseless assumptions of ours.

...too old. Whatever appeal he had last time is lost since he won't be the only socialist running this time. He probably wouldve beat Hillary it he wasn't so old, white and male in the first place. RIP Bernie

Originally posted by mike brown
...too old. Whatever appeal he had last time is lost since he won't be the only socialist running this time. He probably wouldve beat Hillary it he wasn't so old, white and male in the first place. RIP Bernie
He lost because he was conspired against in the primaries by Clinton and the DNC, not because he was too old, or too white, or because he's a man. His popularity now and then goes to show that he has enough support to be a solid contender in the presidential race.

He would have lost either way. He won't be the nominee... How much would you like to bet? (Real offer)

Originally posted by mike brown
He would have lost either way. He won't be the nominee... How much would you like to bet? (Real offer)

I'd suggest an avatar bet, but you don't post enough to make it worth it.

Yeah that was a dumb thought on my part. I have a bad gambling habit.

But yeah I'm not against Sanders I just don't see the Dems nominating an old white guy at this point.

He raised 6 million in a day. Bernie tweeted and tore into trump. Awesome.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
Could it be because those specific presidential candidates were inexperienced and/or a bit on the stupid side, and needed someone more qualified to keep them in line, if not replace them altogether?

Don't know if that sentiment holds water when you look at McCain/Palin. McCain was many times more intelligent than that dingbat. Though exceptions to the rule do often exist in most things.

Palin was chosen for two reason, being a woman and being attractive. She offered nothing else to McCain's presidency as we saw whenever she opened her mouth and commented on something.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
He lost because he was conspired against in the primaries by Clinton and the DNC, not because he was too old, or too white, or because he's a man. His popularity now and then goes to show that he has enough support to be a solid contender in the presidential race.

Primaries are run by states, not parties. It is not a conspiracy that more Democrats voted for Clinton than Sanders. The only superdelegates whom changed their vote, did so in support of Sanders, and he still did not win.