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I'm a longtime fan of the Comic forums. This is my first post in the Movie forums!

I think we need to settle this once and for all! In a Justice League comic scan that's popular in the Comic forums, Batman argues that Wonder Woman would beat Superman because even though Superman has more raw speed, he lacks the disciplined fighting skills of Diana, and used THIS VERY HYPOTHETICAL MATCH AS HIS EXAMPLE TO HIS POINT!
WELL I SAY: BRUCE LEE HAS TO CATCH HIM FIRST!! THE BOLT RUNS HIM OUT AND TAKES HIM DOWN! toot

(the fight takes place on a track field)

Usain Bolt runs him over.

Bruce clips him as he runs by, then beats him up while he's on the ground. Lee's combat speed is still some of the fastest we've ever seen, and no matter how fast Usain can run, he has to run directly at him, which will end the fight for him because now he's close enough for Bruce to whoop on.

Bruce for the win.

Bruce Lee was insanely fast.

Different speeds entirely. Lee in a fight Bolt in a race. This is why WW is the more skilled fighter than Superman. This is not hard to grasp unless you are a Superman fanboy with insecurity issues.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Different speeds entirely. Lee in a fight Bolt in a race. This is why WW is the more skilled fighter than Superman. This is not hard to grasp unless you are a Superman fanboy with insecurity issues.

Where is Abhi these days?

Originally posted by steverules_2
Where is Abhi these days? Self harming in India I imagine.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Different speeds entirely. Lee in a fight Bolt in a race. This is why WW is the more skilled fighter than Superman. This is not hard to grasp unless you are a Superman fanboy with insecurity issues.

Except for the fact Superman moves his hands faster, too. Wonder Woman admitted he has more raw speed.

Usain weighs about twice what Lee did. He is also naturally athletic an playing pro real football also called Soccer now. He did some boxing as a kid too. Weight divisions exist for a reason.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Usain weighs about twice what Lee did. He is also naturally athletic an playing pro real football also called Soccer now. He did some boxing as a kid too. Weight divisions exist for a reason.

Does Usain have any professional martial arts experience? Bruce had tons. And is one of the fastest fighters ever documented. Also he hit far above his weight class with his skill and techniques, as plenty of stuntmen and actual martial artists can attest to.

Usain gets destroyed.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Usain weighs about twice what Lee did. He is also naturally athletic an playing pro real football also called Soccer now. He did some boxing as a kid too. Weight divisions exist for a reason. Bruce Lee has sent 300lb. sandbags into the ceiling with his kicks.

His fighting speed is going to a problem for even someone like Hafthor Bjornsson, he wins.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Usain weighs about twice what Lee did. He is also naturally athletic an playing pro real football also called Soccer now. He did some boxing as a kid too. Weight divisions exist for a reason.

Not to mention, looking good on camera does not mean he can fight.

Everyone's heard the stories, but that's all they are. There's no footage or proof of his skill, like you can get from Royce Gracie (As opposed to overhyped brother Rickson Gracie, who made a career of ducking challenges.)

Originally posted by cdtm
Except for the fact Superman moves his hands faster, too. Wonder Woman admitted he has more raw speed. He is faster but not in a fight. There is a difference my ignorant friend.

Originally posted by quanchi112
In the comics or films?

Comics.

But film Superman also stomps WW.

Originally posted by Impediment
Comics.

But film Superman also stomps WW. She cut his throat in the comics. She let him recover after. She was also holding back and rang his eardrums prior to after surviving an all out assault from Superman trying to kill her by trying to threw her into the sun at super speed. You are referencing all star Superman feat but he is probably less powerful than the new earth Superman anyways.


In the films WW is the superior fighter held back and clearly rocked him with a headbutt. Yw for the lesson.

Originally posted by KingD19
Does Usain have any professional martial arts experience? Bruce had tons. And is one of the fastest fighters ever documented. Also he hit far above his weight class with his skill and techniques, as plenty of stuntmen and actual martial artists can attest to.

Usain gets destroyed. please... Lee was an actor apart from a Kempo Karate tournament of dubious quality he has no documented fights and weighed the same as a size 12 woman. Jet Kun Do, isn't an effective hybrid system, get a wing Chun or Jeet Kun do practitioner to try it on a heavyweight at any boxing, must thai, wrestling, or BJJ club. In fact get him to try it on a much larger man lol. See what happens.

bruce stomps...



Originally posted by Impediment
Comics.

But film Superman also stomps WW.


how when Kal can't it up lol

Originally posted by Putinbot1
please... Lee was an actor apart from a Kempo Karate tournament of dubious quality he has no documented fights and weighed the same as a size 12 woman. Jet Kun Do, isn't an effective hybrid system, get a wing Chun or Jeet Kun do practitioner to try it on a heavyweight at any boxing, must thai, wrestling, or BJJ club. In fact get him to try it on a much larger man lol. See what happens.

And anyone can be fast. Certain boxers used ridiculously fast "slaps" that had no power, to accrue points.

For all we know, BL's lightning fists might not even stun a bigger man.

Originally posted by cdtm
And anyone can be fast. Certain boxers used ridiculously fast "slaps" that had no power, to accrue points.

For all we know, BL's lightning fists might not even stun a bigger man. Exactly cdtm

Typo for Jeet not Jet, although benny the jet would have killed Lee.

And muay for must lol

I wanna say how thoroughly thrilled I am at the arguments being made on both sides.

I (and Batman apparently) admittedly did not even consider weight class when first entertaining this match. Google tells us Bolt has at least 40 pounds on Lee when Lee was at his heaviest, and Bolt is a full 9 inches taller. Those are huge advantages no matter how powerful and skilled Lee is as a fighter.

Also:

Originally posted by quanchi112
Self harming in India I imagine.

I don't know who Abhi is, but G*d damn y'all are hardcore lmfao

What did I kill it?

This is where movement speed vs. fighting speed comes in.

Technique and mass are probably going to play a bigger role than speed here, IMO. Both have fast limb speed. Both have fast reflex speed (Bolt might not fight, but sprinters still train their reactions for starting guns). But one guy is notably bigger while the other guy is actually trained in combat. I'd still probably back Lee because he has actually trained himself for this specific type of contest, whereas Bolt hasn't. But as others have also said, and while movies often ignore these things, a significant size advantage in a fight, in the real world, is always going to play a huge factor, so he'd need to be careful.