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Since just about everyone knows that if Beast fought Bane this would happen:

https://i.imgur.com/USlL1qa.png

This competition is about who is stronger, Beast the bouncing blue furball or Bane the back breaking behemoth.

616 standard Beast vs venom Bane.

https://i.imgur.com/tvvUx4Zm.jpg

So, it's a pure strength contest?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
So, it's a pure strength contest?

yes it can be lifting, striking, jumping however one wishes to compare

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
beast at least twice as strong as bane

Beast, easily.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Beast, easily.

Do you have any proof yet?

um he's an 10 tonner, bane isn't

Originally posted by Supermutant
yes it can be lifting, striking, jumping however one wishes to compare

All feats allowed or ... ? I mean, Beast's had several incarnations, each different from each other. Virus Beast allowed?

What about feats by proxy? He might be stronger than Logan (lip service), so we can use Logan's feats? At least he's got some.

You probably want to limit it to Classic Blue Ape Beast only, yes? As that was the version you and Alberto brought up earlier...

Originally posted by Supermutant


Yeah, everyone saw that. Stop hurting my eyes.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
um he's an 10 tonner, bane isn't

10-tonner, based on what?

Bane isn't --- again, based on what?

Elaborate, please.

based on his marvel bio?

https://i.postimg.cc/RWyLpSgZ/hblk.jpg

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
based on his marvel bio?

https://i.postimg.cc/RWyLpSgZ/hblk.jpg /thread

Feats, please.

He was strong enough to force the real world hand of a dude to write that. Think Mxy punching real world humans.

Beast might be above 10 tons

why do you have my pro---

nvm

It's one of our standard KMC avatars, anyone can have it without uploading it.

Pope Carver had it before you. Bran wears it to honor him, not you.

Beast sucks, but he's pretty strong:

https://i.imgur.com/ahMp0q3.png?1

Cap's 500lbs bar:

http://i.imgur.com/pI2nr5d.png

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
All feats allowed or ... ? I mean, Beast's had several incarnations, each different from each other. Virus Beast allowed?

What about feats by proxy? He might be stronger than Logan (lip service), so we can use Logan's feats? At least he's got some.

You probably want to limit it to Classic Blue Ape Beast only, yes? As that was the version you and Alberto brought up earlier...



Yeah, everyone saw that. Stop hurting my eyes.

standard portrayal of current 616 beast without amps, certainly not virus beast. Or to make it easy on Alberto, whatever version he used for that bio that capped Beast's strength at ten tons.

Non venom Bane workouts with over a 1000 lbs for a standing press while playing chess.

https://i.imgur.com/379dy8Yh.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/3pcznvsh.jpg

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
based on his marvel bio?

https://i.postimg.cc/RWyLpSgZ/hblk.jpg

/thread

lol you did end this thread though. So no actually feats, concession accepted.

1000 pounds? Looks like 495

Originally posted by Damborgson
Beast sucks, but he's pretty strong:

https://i.imgur.com/ahMp0q3.png?1


Bane's done similar effortlessly vehicle toss.

https://s6d5.turboimg.net/t/29512960_banetossvehicle.jpg

Originally posted by Damborgson
Beast sucks, but he's pretty strong:

https://i.imgur.com/ahMp0q3.png?1

Source?

People have argued he was amped here. We should investigate it further one day.

I'm not so sure, as it looks much more modern than Beast's tussles with Frenzy or High Evolutionary, but nobody was quick to defend the feat you posted.

#KMCHistoryForJuniorMembers

Originally posted by Damborgson
Cap's 500lbs bar:

http://i.imgur.com/pI2nr5d.png

Good feat, one-handed and all... but doing this with no leverage should be at least as good, no?

Then there's the fire hydrant feat:

https://i.imgur.com/3fQKcWc.jpg

Originally posted by One Big Mob
1000 pounds? Looks like 495

If they were 45 plates but they are a 100 lbs a piece IIRC

Originally posted by Supermutant
standard portrayal of current 616 beast without amps, certainly not virus beast. Or to make it easy on Alberto, whatever version he used for that bio that capped Beast's strength at ten tons.

That bio was most likely from the time when Hank was in the cat form.

So after Claremont, during Whedon's Astonishing.

Alberto, you mind enlightening us?

http://i66.tinypic.com/29byteu.png

Can Hank exceed this, a standing jump from the ground to the top of a lighthouse? leg strength

https://i.imgur.com/lzRfYLt.jpg

Yes, make it a jumping contest. Give Hank a chance

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
http://i66.tinypic.com/29byteu.png



I had another handbook entry I was going to use. That's a good one though. DC doesn't like to use handbooks and very specific strength levels too often, probably because how often they reboot everything.

Handbooks can be a terrible source, to be honest.

My favourite example is Daken's skeleton being laced with the same plasmic form Muramasa blade is made out from and Romulus being immune to it.

There's a good reason why we don't use secondary sources on battleboards.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Source?

People have argued he was amped here. We should investigate it further one day.

I'm not so sure, as it looks much more modern than Beast's tussles with Frenzy or High Evolutionary, but nobody was quick to defend the feat you posted.

#KMCHistoryForJuniorMembers



Good feat, one-handed and all... but doing this with no leverage should be at least as good, no?

Then there's the fire hydrant feat:

https://i.imgur.com/3fQKcWc.jpg

Not sure on the source either, I will investigate.

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http://i.imgur.com/Vt0813s.pngg
Looks like

He's got some decent striking as well.

And tough enough to at resist getting smacked by Juggernaut:

http://i.imgur.com/akPSAlO.png

and world war hulk:

https://arousinggrammardotcom.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/hulk7.jpg

Virus, bro.

You want to use that showing against Frenzy, you might as well use Hank helping Immortal Hercules and Hulk bending omnium bars.
Damn, Thor looks really weak now.

Bats on Venom made Nu Supes bleed and Venom was said to work on Bane better than on anyone else, if memory serves...

yeah virus Hank lasted a couple of years where he may have been a class 70 ish. Needlessly to say amped beast isn't in this thread.

https://i.imgur.com/9T1JHyk.jpg

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Virus, bro.


https://i.imgur.com/NqbhBgQh.jpg

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Handbooks can be a terrible source, to be honest.

My favourite example is Daken's skeleton being laced with the same plasmic form Muramasa blade is made out from and Romulus being immune to it.

There's a good reason why we don't use secondary sources on battleboards.

oh yeah no doubt handbooks are often outdated and just plain wrong when compared to on panel feats.

Speaking of which, I am still waiting for Alberto's feats that show Beast stronger than Bane.

accept the herald match and i'll make you never doubt me again

**** you Alberto

How you still gonna be asking for battle zones?

You're responsible for him, you know.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/9a81bc3891fcdf6beafa967e9785c117/tenor.gif

Lol he's actually been banned from BZs.

I straight up told him he's not good enough for me lol

Me and The Anvil 1v1. I'll be Hulk, he be not Hulk. I'll show him the real truth in Gamma history.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
accept the herald match and i'll make you never doubt me again

You can't even defend that Beast is stronger than Bane, much less your very confident claim that he is twice as strong as Bane.

https://i.imgur.com/9VAsIGcl.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/DSSmjpdP/fjv.jpg

Where're the feats of Beast?

lol yeah I'm shaking, so who's your herald then? Logan with heat claws?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You're responsible for him, you know.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/9a81bc3891fcdf6beafa967e9785c117/tenor.gif

Oh God...I fed him didn't I?

Originally posted by Supermutant
lol yeah I'm shaking, so who's your herald then? Logan with heat claws?

I'm serious

Originally posted by Damborgson
Oh God...I fed him didn't I?

Yes.

He's like this now:

http://pa1.narvii.com/6227/123799206e8610488d364098b29917a32dc71d5d_hq.gif

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
I'm serious

Do you concede that Beast is not stronger than Bane?

By the way when you said Beast is twice as strong as bane did you mean without venom? I wouldn't agree but it's not that bad.

no, I don't. but I have no interest as debating it right now seeing i've been reading of few characters to use in a bz

we can absolutely discuss this topic later if you're man enough to accept. I just witnessed saint telling me bruce wayne can legitimate tank cl100 shots. im not in the mood

Have you finally read that Captain America comic with Rhino?

Man this is just wierd.

Originally posted by Deadline
Man this is just wierd.

Took you a while to realize that.

But when there's no Steve Rogers around, you sober up fast.

Nah i gotta it first time just didn't really care because I was dealing with DS. I just felt like clarifying the issue.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
no, I don't. but I have no interest as debating it right now seeing i've been reading of few characters to use in a bz

Your potential bz with someone should not stop you in any way from proving your statement that Beast is stronger than Bane. As confident as you were and apparently still are in that statement, you should have already proven your point by now.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
we can absolutely discuss this topic later if you're man enough to accept. I just witnessed saint telling me bruce wayne can legitimate tank cl100 shots. im not in the mood

Why discuss this topic later when this topic was made specifically for you to prove your statement in the present? Seems more like you are running away again but yet you want a BZ lol.

We're all feeding him, he will soon grow bigger than Gecko...

Originally posted by Supermutant
Your potential bz with someone should not stop you in any way from proving your statement that Beast is stronger than Bane. As confident as you were and apparently still are in that statement, you should have already proven your point by now.



Why discuss this topic later when this topic was made specifically for you to prove your statement in the present? Seems more like you are running away again but yet you want a BZ lol.

Because i'm not as interested.
if you can't debate herald level than say that instead of making constant excuses avoiding it. I just got done dealing with saint "Batman is PIS so it counts!" argument

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
We're all feeding him, he will soon grow bigger than Gecko...

https://pa1.narvii.com/6634/7ec39e02d4bfff4c82b84d824bfe073f6d2842d4_hq.gif

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Because i'm not as interested.
if you can't debate herald level than say that instead of making constant excuses avoiding it. I just got done dealing with saint "Batman is PIS so it counts!" argument

Using out-of-context feats from comics you've never read is better?

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Because i'm not as interested.
if you can't debate herald level than say that instead of making constant excuses avoiding it. I just got done dealing with saint "Batman is PIS so it counts!" argument

ask yourself this question, if someone had an open challenge to a BZ that was accepted, all rules and judges accepted, everything good, and for a week that someone constantly lied about turning in an OP multiple times to multiple people-- would you Alberto BZ that certain someone again?

Originally posted by Damborgson
https://pa1.narvii.com/6634/7ec39e02d4bfff4c82b84d824bfe073f6d2842d4_hq.gif

Not funny.

We caused it. All of us.

Damn it all to hell. THIS is what happens when Pope Carver leaves for a vacation...

Originally posted by Supermutant
ask yourself this question, if someone had an open challenge to a BZ that was accepted, all rules and judges accepted, everything good, and for a week that someone constantly lied about turning in an OP multiple times to multiple people-- would you Alberto BZ that certain someone again?

I apologized, i'm asking for a sec chance to prove myself in a herald lvl match but if you won't do it cool.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
I apologized, i'm asking for a sec chance to prove myself in a herald lvl match but if you won't do it cool.

And I told you in about a month I'll be free. But I'm certainly not obligated to bz you at all. If I'm interested at that time then I'll bz you.

Now either offer some proof of your claim in this thread or concede.

sure i'll concede just for you to stop bothering me on this topic

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
sure i'll concede because I don't know what I'm talking about on this topic

QFT

bane wins

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Because i'm not as interested.
if you can't debate herald level than say that instead of making constant excuses avoiding it. I just got done dealing with saint "Batman is PIS so it counts!" argument

http://deffinition.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Bane-Breaks-Batmans-Back-In-The-Comics.jpg