Vegeta vs. Piccolo

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Vegeta (from Saiyan Saga) vs. Piccolo (from Movie 6)


Who wins?

Galan007
Eh?

Movie #6 is set pretty early during the Cell saga. Dende was already serving as guardian of earth, which means Piccolo had already fused with Kami.

Massive stomp.

backup
O f*ck, I mean the movie when appear Turles. Sorry.

Zelax
If we're going by movie 6, then Piccolo should stomp hard, due to him receiving a big power boost from fusing with Kami. However if this is Piccolo during The Tree of Might, he loses handily to Vegeta

Galan007
Originally posted by backup
O f*ck, I mean the movie when appear Turles. Sorry. Vegeta's PL during the Saiyan saga was 18,000.

Piccolo's PL in Movie #3 was stated to be 18,000 as well. However, that was with his weighted clothing -- without it he'd be a good bit above 18k.

So Piccolo should ultimately win.

StiltmanFTW
"Vegeta is a genius"

Bentley
Vegeta could try to become a giant ape.

Galan007
He could, but Piccolo is smart enough to immediately eliminate the moonlight source:
https://s7d8.turboimg.net/t1/40772705_1068659.jpg https://s7d8.turboimg.net/t1/40772706_7218515.jpg https://s7d8.turboimg.net/t1/40772707_7154091.jpg

NotAllThatEvil
Can he pop vegets's lunar bubble the same way he pops the moon?

Galan007
I'd assume so. It's just an energy ball, after all... No reason to assume it's unpoppable.

Dark-Kenshin
Vegeta is smarter than Piccolo, knows the kiezan and was able to stalemate saiyan saga goku's kkx3 Goku's kamehameha with his galic gun. Vegeta. No question. This is the same dude who single-highhandedly just about got all 7 dragon balls during the Namek saga, despite having a massive disadvantage in power and resources. Classic Vegeta is as ruthless and cunning as it gets.

Galan007
I wouldn't be so sure.

Piccolo's PL with his weighted clothing in Movie #3 was already equal to Vegeta's max:
https://i.imgur.com/8eNxLbs.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Mj3OH7L.jpg

Once Piccolo removed his weighted clothing, he'd gain the clear advantage in h2h/PL.

Using his showing against Raditz as an example, Piccolo's initial weighted PL=322:
https://i.imgur.com/WGCeTqt.jpg

His unweighted PL bumped up to 408:
https://i.imgur.com/KBVXYd4.jpg

*An increase of 23.5%

So assuming Piccolo gained the same increase here, his PL would bump to 22,800 after removing his weights.


And as far as blasts go, Vegeta's Galick Gun was indeed stalemating Goku's KKx3 Kamehameha, which means Vegeta's beam had a max PL of 24,000. However, Piccolo's charged SBC, for example, is no less than 2.5x his base PL, as again seen during the fight with Raditz...

Piccolo's unweighted PL=408:
https://i.imgur.com/KBVXYd4.jpg

His charged SBC=1,030:
https://i.imgur.com/ilw4wVO.jpg

So even just using that instance as an example(even though Movie #3 was set later in the timeline), it would still give Piccolo's blast a low-end PL of 45,000, and a high-end PL of 57,000. Either of which would be FAR beyond Vegeta's Galick Gun... Heck, they'd also be FAR beyond the KKx4 Kamehameha that Goku used to utterly overpower Vegeta.


I think this is definitely Piccolo's fight to lose.

SSJGGogeta
Originally posted by Galan007
I wouldn't be so sure.

Piccolo's PL with his weighted clothing in Movie #3 was already equal to Vegeta's max:
https://i.imgur.com/8eNxLbs.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Mj3OH7L.jpg

Once Piccolo removed his weighted clothing, he'd gain the clear advantage in h2h/PL.

Using his showing against Raditz as an example, Piccolo's initial weighted PL=322:
https://i.imgur.com/WGCeTqt.jpg

His unweighted PL bumped up to 408:
https://i.imgur.com/KBVXYd4.jpg

*An increase of 23.5%

So assuming Piccolo gained the same increase here, his PL would bump to 22,800 after removing his weights.


And as far as blasts go, Vegeta's Galick Gun was indeed stalemating Goku's KKx3 Kamehameha, which means Vegeta's beam had a max PL of 24,000. However, Piccolo's charged SBC, for example, is no less than 2.5x his base PL, as again seen during the fight with Raditz...

Piccolo's unweighted PL=408:
https://i.imgur.com/KBVXYd4.jpg

His charged SBC=1,030:
https://i.imgur.com/ilw4wVO.jpg

So even just using that instance as an example(even though Movie #3 was set later in the timeline), it would still give Piccolo's blast a low-end PL of 45,000, and a high-end PL of 57,000. Either of which would be FAR beyond Vegeta's Galick Gun... Heck, they'd also be FAR beyond the KKx4 Kamehameha that Goku used to utterly overpower Vegeta.


I think this is definitely Piccolo's fight to lose.

... You mean Piccolos fight to win?

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