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who wins

Mxy solos.

If Mxy erased an omniverse. Then Owen shoe-boxed an omniverse likewise.

Both stories (WF and Ewing's) used the term "multiverse" ...
but only Ewing actually used the term "omniverse" ...

This should be classic (pre-retcon) HOTI, otherwise it isn't fair.

Mxy's power is infinite. He was erasing the pencil that created the art. Unreal.

... "erasing the pencil that created the art" ... hmm, that is bad ass.

Well, if that's a basis for qualifying one as 'infinite' in power:

How about ripping apart and crumbling the paper/page where the art is created, including the art opposing you.

https://s7d4.turboimg.net/t1/40844022_SH1.jpg

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How about directing the hand to your whims that holds the pencil.

https://s7d4.turboimg.net/t1/40844024_SH3.jpg

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Finally, how about, killing the hand that holds "the pencil that created the art."

https://s7d2.turboimg.net/t1/40844029_SH5.jpg
https://s7d4.turboimg.net/t1/40844026_SH7.jpg

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So, Byrne's She-Hulk = Mxy, or Byrne's She-Hulk > Mxy? shifty

Mxy was about to erase ALL of creation. Infintite universes/multiverses. She-Hulk doesn't have that type of power. Come on.

I'm just responding to your post.

You stated Mxy's power was infinite, and then you cited a feat.

I, highlighted feats that reflect on the example you presented as "infinite power."

Also, you really think destroying/creating anything on any scale
is greater than effortlessly stomping the writer's/artist's avatar?

We always talk about the greatest feat in comics. Well, that is the greatest feat in comics.
It's not to be taken seriously imo, like in Mxy's case likewise, but it is what it is, canon. "Unreal."

Mxy stomped Dan Didio, so he's done the exact same thing. And, yes, Mxy has feats far greater than MM or Thanos.

Scans of Mxy killing Dan Didio? ... Since you're saying he did the "exact same thing."

Would also like to see what you're considering "stomping."

As far as greater feats are concerned? That's your opinion, and it is respected.

Imo, Owen's feat is just as monsta. Yet, also imo, classic HOTI > Owen.

Mxy popped out of the page and slapped him around. DD and the creators couldn't do anything to Mxy.

As far as feats, Mxy's is superior, until I see otherwise.

Ah, so not "exactly the same thing" ... like, at all.

Again, opinions vary, and the feeling is mutual.

Mxy had control over this earth, if you want to look at it that way. Again, Mxy>>Molecule Man.

lol, and no he did not, ever. Mxy is silly drawing, come on man.

Your opinion on who is >>> is unprovable, like mine.

But any un-biased eye would note that both feats are equally mind-boggling.

Nah, until I see feats to prove it.

If you feel like MM's feats are ABOVE Mxy, then by all means, prove it. As of now, Mxy is far and above anyone, feat wise. Just a fact, no need to cry about it.

Well, that may be in DC, but you're conflating WF with Mxy, Mxy.

He got kidnapped. Held prisoner. Tortured (lol) while captive.
Depowered by Zatanna who was one-shot by Prime. Zatanna had to die for him to escape.

Bad writing or not, this all happened. And even after this,
Mxy was so shaken up by it that he wanted the 5th Dimension closed off from Prime.

Again, this isn't special, several cats are written all-powerful by a select,
and then another select writes the all-powerful to very powerful, or just powerful.

Moral? Having the baddest feat (yur opinion) doesn't exactly make one untouchable, or guarantee anything.

Mxy was weakened at the time. Even a weakened Mxy can destroy ALL of creation, as we have seen in the last issue of JL.

Originally posted by Senor Cage
Mxy was weakened at the time. Even a weakened Mxy can destroy ALL of creation, as we have seen in the last issue of JL. Where did we see that a weakened Mxy can destroy all of creation in the latest issue of JL?

Actually, he was weakened because Zatanna depowered him via a spell.
After he recovered, he was still afraid of Prime.

btw, I'm not low-balling Mxy, I know this is pis, or cis, canon, but real,
but it shows that no cat is immune to yellow stinky no matter how grandiose their past feats.
Its that, you make it seem like anything vs Mxy is an auto win for em, uhm, not the case.

Don't get me wrong, most of the great powers of Marvel have been victimized likewise.

We know, if Owen wanted to erase a shoe-box sized object, he could.
Again, there's no grand difference here. They both had absolute control over the entirety of their side.

Both in scales that seem ridiculous.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Where did we see that a weakened Mxy can destroy all of creation in the latest issue of JL?

it wasn't in the last issue
but he's been currently weakened,
also in mind controlled state he's unimagining everything in existence
https://i.imgur.com/v4skXvW.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/4yyuyKs.jpg

I'm confused by that scan. Who is he referring to that will "unimagine everything?"

Also, how do you know he's weakened in the 6th?

Originally posted by Mr Master
Actually, he was weakened because Zatanna depowered him via a spell.
After he recovered, he was still afraid of Prime.

btw, I'm not low-balling Mxy, I know this is pis, or cis, canon, but real,
but it shows that no cat is immune to yellow stinky no matter how grandiose their past feats.
Its that, you make it seem like anything vs Mxy is an auto win for em, uhm, not the case.

Don't get me wrong, most of the great powers of Marvel have been victimized likewise.

We know, if Owen wanted to erase a shoe-box sized object, he could.
Again, there's no grand difference here. They both had absolute control over the entirety of their side.

Both in scales that seem ridiculous.

Prime is a special case, and even he didn't have a win over Mxy on panel. Prime is from our universe, outside of the mainstream universe.

Mxy revealed that he was weakened in that same issue Mind posted.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I'm confused by that scan. Who is he referring to that will "unimagine everything?"

Also, how do you know he's weakened in the 6th?

It's missing a page, the one saying that is Jarro, Batman's baby Starro he keeps in a jar who made telepathic contact with Mxy.

https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Justice-League-2018/Issue-21?id=152935#13

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Mind's scan shows how he's weakened, where he talks about how Imagination is dying and making their "lifeblood" drain out.

And yeah, I figured the pencil scan was what he was actually talking about.

Without a time frame or context though that scan is frankly not particularly helpful. Given the story's events Jarro is most likely referring to the Multiverse sure, but he isn't actually destroying the Multiverse in one swoop as evidenced by the fact that he hasn't even destroyed Earth yet.

Indeed, the latest issue only said he was "unwriting the Earth itself".

He's not doing it one fell swoop, but then again, he's not at full power. I'm assuming "everything in existence" means OMNIVERSE, not Multiverse. DC entire creation is an omniverse.

Originally posted by NemeBro
It's missing a page, the one saying that is Jarro, Batman's baby Starro he keeps in a jar who made telepathic contact with Mxy.

https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Justice-League-2018/Issue-21?id=152935#13

Sorry about the ads, but I'm too lazy to tinypic it.

Mind's scan shows how he's weakened, where he talks about how Imagination is dying and making their "lifeblood" drain out.

And yeah, I figured the pencil scan was what he was actually talking about.

Without a time frame or context though that scan is frankly not particularly helpful. Given the story's events Jarro is most likely referring to the Multiverse sure, but he isn't actually destroying the Multiverse in one swoop as evidenced by the fact that he hasn't even destroyed Earth yet.

Indeed, the latest issue only said he was "unwriting the Earth itself".

But the context of Starman's comment was that mxy is unwriting the earth so there is no way they can evacuate all the people on earth

not that Mxy is ONLY unwriting the earth

Originally posted by Senor Cage
He's not doing it one fell swoop, but then again, he's not at full power. I'm assuming "everything in existence" means OMNIVERSE, not Multiverse. DC entire creation is an omniverse.

whether he's unimagining Perpetua's creation or beyond we don't really know for now

Yeah, I guess Starman/Jarro wouldn't really know, since they're not familiar what lies beyond Perpetua's creation. Even the Anti-Monitor didn't know what was out there. Still, a huge feat for Mxy.

Classic THOTI wins.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Well, that may be in DC, but you're conflating WF with Mxy, Mxy.

He got kidnapped. Held prisoner. Tortured (lol) while captive.
Depowered by Zatanna who was one-shot by Prime. Zatanna had to die for him to escape.

Bad writing or not, this all happened. And even after this,
Mxy was so shaken up by it that he wanted the 5th Dimension closed off from Prime.

Again, this isn't special, several cats are written all-powerful by a select,
and then another select writes the all-powerful to very powerful, or just powerful.

Moral? Having the baddest feat (yur opinion) doesn't exactly make one untouchable, or guarantee anything.

How many times must you be told this? There is no WF Mxy. Every Mxy you see are one in the same, he never changes, everything to him are canon.

It's not like that one showing outweighs all of Mxy's other showings either, so I'm not sure why some people like to mention it as though it's the end-all/be-all depiction of him..? /shrug

Not to mention that the showing itself doesn't make sense, even in the context of that issue. For example, Prime explicitly stated that Mxy's magics > ANYONE'S he had EVER met in the same issue, and that Annataz was actually weaker than him:
https://i.imgur.com/5VckXja.jpg
...Yet she was still able to prevent Mxy from using some degree of his magics, despite being LESS powerful? How does that make any sense at all?

Moreover, Superboy Prime has "met" the likes of COIE Spectre(among many, many others):
https://i.imgur.com/8lkEXxi.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/XFTxcDt.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Ia3rUnR.jpg
But per Prime himself, Mxy's magics were still the most powerful he'd ever encountered. Interesting.


On top of all that, Prime had captured Mxy with the sole intent of using him to erase EVERY earth/universe in the multiverse, aside from Earth-Prime:
https://i.imgur.com/x0xgszp.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/gOnFY02.jpg
So even in that very same issue Mxy was still treated as a casual multiversal power.


It was also implied that Mxy was going along with Prime's shenanigans the entire time just to troll him:
https://i.imgur.com/lxfq9RL.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/JoBrMtX.jpg

And in the final bio pages, Mxy again treats all of the issue's happenings as a joke:
https://i.imgur.com/RHveDPC.jpg



So yeah....

Originally posted by Inedian
Classic THOTI wins.

no

^^ or yea
Originally posted by SquallX

How many times must you be told this?
uhhmm ... who are you again? Do I know you? ...
Originally posted by SquallX

There is no WF Mxy.

Every Mxy you see are one in the same, he never changes, everything to him are canon.
I see you missed the entire point of my post.

I was entertaining el 'senor' with a bit of reverse logic and forward reasoning.

HOTU was never retconned, the implication of the heart equal to TOAA power was just wishful thinking from some people, that turns out not to be true

Thanos only possessed fragmentary glimpse of TOAA power, and he died recreating a single universe

His best feat was beating the Living Tribunal

Elaine was the supreme being, Mxy destroyed and recreated the dc omniverse with a snap. Thanos with the heart is not beating them by himself

"wishful thinking?" ...

The Heart was = to TOAA's in-universe power.

That was the on panel, bio corroborated fact, until the retcon.

So yea, it was retconned.

Thanos bonded to "omni-reality" ... and we know this meant all universes,
because he was bonded to alternate universeS in other time periods as depicted on panel.
He also stated his consciousness went beyond the Abstract.

During the time of "The End," the LT was omniversal, existing in all Multiverses simultaneously.

Akhenaten (who was nothing compared to Thanos/merged) while in 616,
was able to one-shot all the SkyFathers while they were hiding in a "distant universe" ...
Akhenaten's private dimension was made up of a "blending of RealitieS"
Akhenaten was existing simultaneously across universeS.
Ak, easily raped both Eternity and Infinity.

Yet, Ak, was only tapping the HOTI, yet Thanos/merged was magnitudes of order above him.

Thanos/merged, is universal is a nonsensical notion imo.

Thanos/merged re-created a universe located 2000 years earlier than Ak's original universe (reality 4321)
Thanos did this to change history so the Celestial Order never acquired the HOTI.
Thanos/merged also pwnd Ak inside of 4321, lol universal.

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Also, I was just being funny when I suggested 'who wins' ... that's truly "wishful thinking" for either side.

If I had to go there, I'd say stalemate.

Its God vs God (assuming it's pre-retcon Heart) ... and ... I can anything vs I can do anything.

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note: Thanos didn't die to do anything, and he never died, period.

That was a hoax courtesy of Thanos.

Also, there are on panel several implications that lead the reader to surmise Thanos absorbed more than 616.
This is aside from the Marvel officially sponsored site Marvunapp stating it was "the Multiverse."

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/celestialorderthanos.htm

And yes, aside from the bio being written by the Head handbook Writer of all printed Marvel Handbooks,
and the actual owner of Marvunapp.
And aside from him (Snood) being friends with Stan Lee, Starlin and just about every Marvel writer.

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/appmasts.htm#snood

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix2/christiansenjeff.htm

But what would he know.

Again, until the retcon, ... blah, blah, blah.

Hard to argue against the supreme being here.