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Morals: Off
Prep: None
Gear: Standard
Interference: Off
Location: X-Mansion; 60 ft apart
Victory Conditions: Death/KO/Incap

https://i.postimg.cc/VS0vvtRp/bla.jpg

The Martian would be too much sadly.

Originally posted by Damborgson
The Martian would be too much sadly.

Because Mags in the pic is nerfed?

Or because you think Mags can't take care of the biggest jobber in the herald tier that DC has to offer...?

The second one.

Mags wouldn't get creamed or anything but I do genuinely think that Manhunter on here where he wont suffer from typical jobber behavior will take him down.

Has Magneto ever taken down a herald tiered character?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Has Magneto ever taken down a herald tiered character?

Exodus...

Phoenix...

Vision...

Originally posted by Damborgson
The second one.

Mags wouldn't get creamed or anything but I do genuinely think that Manhunter on here where he wont suffer from typical jobber behavior will take him down.

So you want us to ignore most of J'onn's showings?

MM literally had his own section (dozens of pages) in the Ownage thread years back.

It was so bad, one member had the links put in his signature.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Exodus...

Phoenix...

Vision...



So you want us to ignore most of J'onn's showings?

MM literally had his own section (dozens of pages) in the Ownage thread years back.

It was so bad, one member had the links put in his signature.

Oh yea...i forgot about those 👌

I'm sure he has more notable fights against heralds... but I want to allow Phil to flex his muscles when he posts in this thread.

Not mentioning Apocalypse, as it technically always took place either in some alternate universe or a simulation.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Exodus...

Phoenix...

Vision...


I don't know if I'd qualify Exodus or Vision as heralds, more like elite high metas. And the Phoenix win (assuming you mean the time they fought in the late 70s) was against a gimped Jean. She subconsciously put up psionic circuit breakers after the M'krann Crystal incident. They weren't broken till she went Dark Phoenix much, much later.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
So you want us to ignore most of J'onn's showings?

MM literally had his own section (dozens of pages) in the Ownage thread years back.

It was so bad, one member had the links put in his signature.

Wish I could have seen that...we rarely do that anymore

Originally posted by zopzop
I don't know if I'd qualify Exodus or Vision as heralds

KMC qualified them. We've got a new tiers thread.

But aside from that... Exodus is so bloody versatile and has such insane team-wrecking showings, pretending he's a mere high meta is crazy, imo

Jean is one of those characters who is NEVER at her peak, she always have an excuse.

We could use White Phoenix of the Crown version and some would still argue that "True Jean" is at her best WITHOUT the Phoenixforce... I'm not even kidding, that's what recent comics are trying to say.

She's like that True Darkseid bs --- there'll always be an excuse.

Anyway, Mags also beat her ass in Morrison Era, although that was with Kick.

It's arguable Mags can KO him, he has subatomic control so it's not farfetched that he can kill him

https://i.postimg.cc/Vrrfs0qv/pvll.jpg

Immortal Herc got beaten by Mags, too.

mags broke free of herc's grip if that's what you mean. he also defeated proteus who was definitely a herald. but he hasn't really beaten a herald one on one that i can recall. iron man is a low herald imo. not saying he can't beat heralds--he def has feats and versatility to do so, but as an x-men villain he's usually beating up on them for most of his career...

the unusually high amount of iron in jonn's blood would be the end of him in this match though. mags also has lots of other avenues of attack here though. i'd def take mags in this for a majority. this has also been done MULTIPLE TIMES and will likely be closed if spotted. use the damn search for once.....

Originally posted by leonidas
mags broke free of herc's grip if that's what you mean.

No, I mean what happened afterwards.

Stop pretending you forgot.

Originally posted by leonidas
but he hasn't really beaten a herald one on one that i can recall.

Lol.

It's Magneto who is always outnumbered.

Manhunter for the win, intangibility rules.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW

Jean is one of those characters who is NEVER at her peak, she always have an excuse.

We could use White Phoenix of the Crown version and some would still argue that "True Jean" is at her best WITHOUT the Phoenixforce... I'm not even kidding, that's what recent comics are trying to say.

She's like that True Darkseid bs --- there'll always be an excuse.


Her statement about holding back due the Phoenix looks like it was true.

Jean completely ignored a full on telepathic assault from Cassandra Nova recently.
https://postimg.cc/KK9bT79S
https://postimg.cc/qtrYL481
https://postimg.cc/NKmSm5ry

Jean "loses" eventually
https://postimg.cc/xcGWHyCx

...except Jean was just playing dead. She was setting Nova up for Gabby to hit Nova with a personality altering nanite. And Jean explains she wasn't trying to kill Cassandra, but wanted to heal her instead.
https://postimg.cc/TprX0vkc
https://postimg.cc/G8ZZPXGN
https://postimg.cc/7GCFTFG0

As you said, "True Jean" strikes again! Even an out-to-kill Cassandra couldn't take her out and Jean wasn't even using her "real" power. Jean doesn't need the weak ass Phoenix yo.

Battle is pretty simple. If MM uses his powers, he wins. If not, Magneto wins. Nothing Magneto can do when MM phases into another dimension and one-shots him.

Get real, Golgo.

Originally posted by lawest9
Manhunter for the win, intangibility rules.

Good thing Mags is well-equipped to deal with intangibility, then.

MM is too fast and versatile, though. Can Magneto deal with someone who can shift into another dimension?

Originally posted by StyleTime


Her statement about holding back due the Phoenix looks like it was true.

Jean completely ignored a full on telepathic assault from Cassandra Nova recently.
https://postimg.cc/KK9bT79S
https://postimg.cc/qtrYL481
https://postimg.cc/NKmSm5ry

Jean "loses" eventually
https://postimg.cc/xcGWHyCx

...except Jean was just playing dead. She was setting Nova up for Gabby to hit Nova with a personality altering nanite. And Jean explains she wasn't trying to kill Cassandra, but wanted to heal her instead.
https://postimg.cc/TprX0vkc
https://postimg.cc/G8ZZPXGN
https://postimg.cc/7GCFTFG0

As you said, "True Jean" strikes again! Even an out-to-kill Cassandra couldn't take her out and Jean wasn't even using her "real" power. Jean doesn't need the weak ass Phoenix yo.



Thanks for providing the scans

True Jean... what a time to live in...

Originally posted by Senor Cage
MM is too fast and versatile, though. Can Magneto deal with someone who can shift into another dimension?

Vision does the same thing when he's phasing and he got assraped twice...

Vision is not MM, he doesn't have MM's speed.

What speed are you talking about?

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/105634/3943505-bc53+-+1.jpg

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Vision does the same thing when he's phasing and he got assraped twice...

Phasing are different.

To deal with a loser like Manhunter, Mags doesn't even need his powers.

He'll just punch his nose:

http://i65.tinypic.com/2zfljt4.png

****ing terrible character. Not a single decent battle feat in 64 years.

Each time he appears, it's worse. Soon, he'll either become allergic to oxygen or catch a cold and die from it.

That was Midnighter who found his weak point. Mags doesn't have that power.

Midnighter is worth less than an untrained Robin.

J'onn's secret superpower is that he can't win a fight. If he challenged an amoeba, he'd lose.

Martian Manhunter vs Beast vs Karnak.

Who knocks themself out first?

Originally posted by StyleTime
Martian Manhunter vs Beast vs Karnak.

Who knocks themself out first?

Thor

Every time.

All I know is, Albert is itching to post his Mags scans.

He alone possesses the true knowledge.

Alberto I'm disappointed
You came from a site where people think MMH can beat the hammer bros or takes on Gladiator, Magneto, Sentry, Thor, Vision at the same time
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/bloodlusted-martian-manhunter-vs-marvel-team-740249/?page=1

Yet you think Magneto alone poses a fight?

Your comicvine comrades are ashamed of you

@SSJGGogeta

https://i.postimg.cc/1gDZzLXh/jnl.jpg

Magneto wins.

but then again I forgot MM is MORE susceptible to blood bending than humans are.

Considering his history, Martian Manhunter is more vulnerable to literally ANY attack...

Deep down, Leo knows that holding back Magneto flexes and dabs on Hercules:

https://s7d2.turboimg.net/t/40914935_MagsHerc0.jpg https://s7d2.turboimg.net/t/40914936_MagsHerc1.jpg https://s7d2.turboimg.net/t/40914937_MagsHerc2.jpg https://s7d2.turboimg.net/t/40914938_MagsHerc3.jpg

New Mutants #40

Make notes, leo. Make notes and try not to forget this time.

Old Man Leo thinks he's invisible vin

http://i63.tinypic.com/vphkt3.png

Is J'onn reallly a jobber though? I mean he was portrayed as herald against the white martians arc

King of jobbers.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11114/111143779/4617368-p27_34.jpg

Right after that scene, Manchester literally sits on J'onn's face and smokes a cigarette.

That is how DC treats J'onn on a regular basis.

I did remember Mags has countered Density-based phasing before as well as Molecular based phasing. Both Vision and Kitty Pryde learned this the hard way. Kitty nearly died when Mags countered her Phasing ON INSTINCT in Uncanny X-Men Vol.1 #150 lol

@SSJGGogeta, Phasing wouldn't really work on Mags since he'd be able to sense Invisible opponents as they cross the Magnetic Lines of Force. The higher the blood iron content of the Invisible person, the > the chance they are detected by Mags. He's been able to shut down TP users by affecting the electrons in their brain.

Phasing isn't simple invisibility, though. Nor is he using density phasing.


He's phased through heat vision, which affected The Weirds intangibility. It took New God tech to beat his phasing.

Originally posted by cdtm
He's phased through heat vision

Kitty phased through 314796 different types of energy attacks, GTFO.

Magneto doesn't get prep. So he starts with shields off.


Speed blitz.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Kitty phased through 314796 different types of energy attacks, GTFO.


And she can't go invisible AND phased.


No real proof Mags could sense her, even if he could affect her.

Originally posted by cdtm
Phasing isn't simple invisibility, though. Nor is he using density phasing.


He's phased through heat vision, which affected The Weirds intangibility. It took New God tech to beat his phasing.

Kitty phases on subatomic levels and Vision is density, Mags has shown no problem countering both. MMH couldn't even defend himself after getting blood bended.

Leaning towards MM...

Originally posted by cdtm
Magneto doesn't get prep. So he starts with shields off.


Speed blitz.

Show me one speed showing of Martian Manjobber

Mags grabbed Northstar by his throat, he can erect his shields faster than that.

Originally posted by cdtm
And she can't go invisible AND phased.


No real proof Mags could sense her, even if he could affect her.

As others already said - extra iron in shitty martian's blood makes him an extremely easy target to detect.

At the time that Mags nearly killed a Phasing Kitty on instinct, Kitty only had Molecular based phasing. Her Phasing power got perm amped and altered to Dimensional based phasing to the point that it can cause an adverse reaction to Dimensional Creatures that feed on spirit energy (the Warwolves learned this the hard way

Kitty's phasing has been shown to have an adverse reaction to beings made of pure psionic energy when she phases through them. Baron Karza and Kitty learned this the hard way in the X-Men/Mircronauts xover years ago.

bfr is for pussies.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Is J'onn reallly a jobber though? I mean he was portrayed as herald against the white martians arc

The same Martians who were taken out by Batman....

Originally posted by leonidas
bfr is for pussies.

Technically, Leocules got incapacitated (trapped in those rocks), before Mags bfr'd him.

If a magnetically controlled cape was too much for him to handle, then no wonder he couldn't break free from rocks

Manhunter wins even easier then Superman would.


Fun fact, MM beat Superman and the entire JLA, including Supes, Flash, GL, well before the Furnus thing.

Phil is a much bigger DC fan than you could ever hope to become... and he knows Manjobber can't win here.

What would Mags do against Spock? He doesn't have iron based blood, but copper.


Edit: Couldn't Mags shut down Saiyans?

I mean, if he controls blood, or brain activity, then what possible defense could even a SSJ God have?

Magneto killed a Predator X while barely using any of his abilties at the time.

That vulcan nerd doesn't stand a chance.

Now that I think about it, powerless Mags probably punches harder than Iron Fist.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Technically, Leocules got incapacitated (trapped in those rocks), before Mags bfr'd him.

If a magnetically controlled cape was too much for him to handle, then no wonder he couldn't break free from rocks

Little known fact, but Magneto has knocked the feminism out of Namor in the 60s:

https://s7d3.turboimg.net/t/40915660_As2GkNs.jpg https://s7d3.turboimg.net/t/40915661_hS1NMrL.jpg

IIRC Jonn could phase thru em shields...he could possibly Mags? Slip thru his shields for the quick ko.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
I did remember Mags has countered Density-based phasing before as well as Molecular based phasing. Both Vision and Kitty Pryde learned this the hard way. Kitty nearly died when Mags countered her Phasing ON INSTINCT in Uncanny X-Men Vol.1 #150 lol

@SSJGGogeta, Phasing wouldn't really work on Mags since he'd be able to sense Invisible opponents as they cross the Magnetic Lines of Force. The higher the blood iron content of the Invisible person, the > the chance they are detected by Mags. He's been able to shut down TP users by affecting the electrons in their brain.

I'm not entirely invested in this fight, as I don't really read Marvel much at all- but what I'm gathering is that the fight would come down to who can shut down the others brain first.

In that case, I'd still go with MM. He is an extremely powerful telepath.