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Smaug vs Night King

Bonus round

Night King Army

Smaug has no Dragon Glass or Valyrian Steel so he loses.

Night King is basically a sniper with that spear though.

We dont know if it would damage smaugs armor though, his armor was way different than the dragons from GOT. I would argue its vastly superior as his scales literally were like iron and he shrugged off a molten hot gold bath like it was nothing.

Night King easy; immune to Dragon fire an is a shoe in for the Olympic javelin team with that ice lance of his

Originally posted by relentless1
Night King easy; immune to Dragon fire an is a shoe in for the Olympic javelin team with that ice lance of his



Night King wins. Quan will be so pissed.

Originally posted by relentless1
Night King easy; immune to Dragon fire an is a shoe in for the Olympic javelin team with that ice lance of his

Is the night king immune to dragon teeth?

He could.

Smaug could use the Night King to pleasure his scaly boy pussy and the Night King would be incapable of stopping him.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Smaug could use the Night King to pleasure his scaly boy pussy and the Night King would be incapable of stopping him.

^ This

I agree, Smaug wins.

are Smaugs teeth Valeriyan steel or Dragonglass?? Didn't think so. The second that Smaug closes in for the big bite he gets an ice spear to the eye

Originally posted by relentless1
are Smaugs teeth Valeriyan steel or Dragonglass?? Didn't think so. The second that Smaug closes in for the big bite he gets an ice spear to the eye

Don't forget the Winds of Winter

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Don't forget the Winds of Winter

yes, another good point, he can always cloud the skies as he did at the battle of winterfell

Originally posted by relentless1
are Smaugs teeth Valeriyan steel or Dragonglass?? Didn't think so. The second that Smaug closes in for the big bite he gets an ice spear to the eye

Is Night King physically capable of stopping Smaug from shoving the Night King up his ass hole, or of doing anything to escape it? Didn't think so.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Is Night King physically capable of stopping Smaug from shoving the Night King up his ass hole, or of doing anything to escape it? Didn't think so.

NK has projectiles, accuracy and a way to obscure Smaugs vision with that huge snow storm he pulled off in Battle of Winterfell; not to mention the thousands of dead he can place between himself and the dragon. I say Smaug doesn't even get anywhere near close enough to NK to grab him and that leaves him very vulnerable to attack.

Smaug wins via killing Night King with his only weakness: leaping towards him in slow motion.

Originally posted by relentless1
NK has projectiles,

That won't hurt him.



To do what? Ineffectually plink ice spears in hard to hit areas?



Running and hiding is indeed his only option.



Smaug can go through them as easily as he goes through air.

But no, he can't do that, at least in the first round.



Smaug isn't a tiny weak semi-dragon like GoT ones. Drogon, the biggest of the dragons, is allegedly 230 feet long.

Smaug is 436 feet long.

He also doesn't have a bulbous fire gland that explodes when penetrated like a GoT dragon.

Smaug would be effectively invincible against the Night King and his army, and would easily overpower him and shove him up his anus until his erect dragon cock ejaculates all over everyone.

Unless Night King can hit Smaug's weak spot, Night King is anally raped.

Smaug wrecks him. I told you so.

Smaug could just step on the Night King for the win.

1. And where is the Night King getting all these spears?
2. The NK doesn't have 100% accuracy anyway
3. Smaug's hide is too tough for spears anyway

there's no way you can prove that Night Kings spear would bounce off Smaug, sure he was able to shrug off mortal weapons but the black spear that did pierce him was about the same size as the javelins NK was using, not even counting the magic factor present here

NK missed every throw save one. Smaug destroys him. The air is not going to be clouded with foggy debris and without his army he gets crushed.

Smaug wins

Originally posted by Impediment
Unless Night King can hit Smaug's weak spot, Night King is anally raped.

Originally posted by relentless1
there's no way you can prove that Night Kings spear would bounce off Smaug, sure he was able to shrug off mortal weapons but the black spear that did pierce him was about the same size as the javelins NK was using, not even counting the magic factor present here

You're assuming the ice spear has some special super-penetrating abilities and that's an assumption as we saw not-magical scorpion bolts kill a GoT dragon just the same and it's fairly safe to say those same GoT scorpion bolts wouldn't harm Smaug unless they hit his weak spot or spots if we include the eyes.

Originally posted by relentless1
there's no way you can prove that Night Kings spear would bounce off Smaug, sure he was able to shrug off mortal weapons but the black spear that did pierce him was about the same size as the javelins NK was using, not even counting the magic factor present here You have it backwards, there's no way you can prove that the javelin can hurt him.

The dragons in GoT, even Drogon, are much smaller and weaker than Smaug.

Drogon is allegedly about 230 feet long.

https://www.businessinsider.com/game-of-thrones-dragons-size-747-plane-season-7-spoilers-2017-3

I say "allegedly" because I think that's a gross overestimation, but it doesn't matter, because Smaug is literally almost twice that length, at 130 meters/426 feet long:

https://www.fxguide.com/quicktakes/behind-the-scenes-of-weta-digitals-smaug/

That javelin impaled Viserion (who is even smaller and weaker than Drogon) sure, but it didn't go through, it stuck in. So it would be like stabbing Smaug with a boxcutter even if it did penetrate him.

Furthermore, dragons in GoT have glands on the sides of their mouths which produce their flames. If you pay attention, the Night King penetrated that gland, which is why there were explosions when he was stabbed. Smaug has no such weakness on the exterior of his body.

Smaug is considerably more powerful.

Lol, unless there's evidence that Smaug's scales can withstand an impact from Night King's spears, he ain't winning this!

But nice try, perhaps Ancalagon or Glaurung would have a better chance

Night King doesent have a black arrow either so there goes yalls night king no limits fallacy

Smaug destroys with 0 effort and I have seen every single episode of GOT. This isnt even a fight

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Night King doesent have a black arrow either so there goes yalls night king no limits fallacy

Smaug destroys with 0 effort and I have seen every single episode of GOT. This isnt even a fight

One spear was all it took to kill Viserion.

The spear had 0 issue eviscerating a dragon. Unless you can prove that Smaug can withstand an ice spear, Smaug is doomed.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
One spear was all it took to kill Viserion.

The spear had 0 issue eviscerating a dragon. Unless you can prove that Smaug can withstand an ice spear, Smaug is doomed. NK misses all the time. Smaug kills him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
NK misses all the time. Smaug kills him.

LOL!!!!! Smaug's size isn't helping him here! He will be impaled in no time.

You are really that dumb.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
LOL!!!!! Smaug's size isn't holping him here! He will be impaled in no time.

You are really that dumb. He is powerful enough to destroy his body. NK is slow. He needs his army to be formidable.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He is powerful enough to destroy his body. NK is slow. He needs his army to be formidable.

One spear is all it takes to seriously wound Smaug.

Night King is immune to dragon fire. Enough time to pick another spear and impale the worm.

You forget the Winds of Winter. Smaug will have visibility issues.

Yall are overhyping the everloving shit outta nightking. Game Of Thrones loses to its superior and predecessor

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
One spear is all it takes to seriously wound Smaug.

Night King is immune to dragon fire. Enough time to pick another spear and impale the worm.

You forget the Winds of Winter. Smaug will have visibility issues. He misses. They did not have that debris when the dragons first showed up. Smaug does not need to breathe fire to beat him. NK was bad at hitting anything when they were aware of him.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Yall are overhyping the everloving shit outta nightking. Game Of Thrones loses to its superior and predecessor

Your biased opinion is respected.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Your biased opinion is respected. You are the one biased. We just laugh at you.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You are the one biased. We just laugh at you.

Arguments > your bias.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Arguments > your bias. NK missed more than he hit. Only dragon he hit was unaware he was even being attacked. NK was not by himself so the dragons were not just focusing on him. Facts>you.

Originally posted by quanchi112
NK missed more than he hit. Only dragon he hit was unaware he was even being attacked. NK was not by himself so the dragons were not just focusing on him. Facts>you.

Drogon is smaller than Smaug, therefore a harder target to hit. Just need to think man.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Drogon is smaller than Smaug, therefore a harder target to hit. Just need to think man. He never hit an award dragon. Smaug is more dangerous thus he wins. Your imagination tactics are easy to rape.

Originally posted by quanchi112
NK missed more than he hit. Only dragon he hit was unaware he was even being attacked. NK was not by himself so the dragons were not just focusing on him. Facts>you.

This. Yall are putting nlf on the night king. And giving his spears an autowin against a dragon that is much much much more durable than anything ever even seen in the GOT universe.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He never hit an award dragon. Smaug is more dangerous thus he wins. Your imagination tactics are easy to rape.

Your stupidity is astonishing.

Smaug fires at NK. NK laughs and impales the worm! You've lost.

/thread.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
This. Yall are putting nlf on the night king. And giving his spears an autowin against a dragon that is much much much more durable than anything ever even seen in the GOT universe.

Smaug is big and therefore easier to hit.

Doesn't make him immune to spears that can one shot dragons. Sorry.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Your stupidity is astonishing.

Smaug fires at NK. NK laughs and impales the worm! You've lost.

/thread. That is not debating it is you stating your imagination. Who cares? Nk missed every time a dragon was aware of him.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Smaug is big and therefore easier to hit.

Doesn't make him immune to spears that can one shot dragons. Sorry. Not all dragons are created equally. We see the dragons from GoT are physically weaker.

Smaug shit stomps NK.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Smaug is big and therefore easier to hit.

Doesn't make him immune to spears that can one shot dragons. Sorry.


If you think the GoT scorpions would have taken out Smaug, you're going on faulty logic considering what is known. There's a reasons why Bard had to hit the one unprotected spot on Smaug and not just aim for any spot.

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Josh used to argue Gregor could best Azog pre amp. The kid is just too biased to be taken seriously.

Smaug.

Originally posted by Robtard
If you think the GoT scorpions would have taken out Smaug, you're going on faulty logic considering what is known. There's a reasons why Bard had to hit the one unprotected spot on Smaug and not just aim for any spot.

The Scorpions of GoT clearly packs a greater punch than Erebor's. And still, an Ice Spear>>>>>>>Black arrow.

Unless you have evidence that Smaug won't suffer Viserion's fate, the fire drake is doomed to failure!

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
The Scorpions of GoT clearly packs a greater punch than Erebor's. And still, an Ice Spear>>>>>>>Black arrow.

Unless you have evidence that Smaug won't suffer Viserion's fate, the fire drake is doomed to failure!
Your logic is not logical and here's why:

Smaug tore through the entire Dwarven stronghold and their defenses like it was basically nothing to him, he did this all alone.

You're assuming that a GoT ballista will take out Smaug if it hits him anywhere like it did Rhaegal and you have nothing really to support this, while we have lore on Smaug saying he's virtually impregnable.

Smaug's also considerably larger than Viserian, so even if the ice spear goes into him (which it might not), it's little more than a tiny prick to a creature of his mass/size.

How come Night king gets a no limits fallacy with dragon glass but Smaug does nit with the black arrow? It has to be a black arrow that kills him and nk does not have it

Originally posted by Robtard
Your logic is not logical and here's why:

Smaug tore through the entire Dwarven stronghold and their defenses like it was basically nothing to him, he did this all alone.

You're assuming that a GoT ballista will take out Smaug if it hits him anywhere like it did Rhaegal and you have nothing really to support this, while we have lore on Smaug saying he's virtually impregnable.

Smaug's also considerably larger than Viserian, so even if the ice spear goes into him (which it might not), it's little more than a tiny prick to a creature of his mass/size.

GoT Ballista is CLEARLY bigger and shoots the bolt way faster than Erebor's. Based on that alone, it's safe to assume that GoT's ballista is way more dangerous than Erebor's.

Here are the facts:
- NK's spear one shoted a Dragon! It went right through it's hide like knife through butter.

So, again, what evidence is there that Smaug can withstand it?

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
GoT Ballista is CLEARLY bigger and shoots the bolt way faster than Erebor's. Based on that alone, it's safe to assume that GoT's ballista is way more dangerous than Erebor's.

Here are the facts:
- NK's spear one shoted a Dragon! It went right through it's hide like knife through butter.

So, again, what evidence is there that Smaug can withstand it?

False!

Fact: Dwarven ballistas are very large; much, much larger and heavier than the GoT scorpions:

Battle of Five Armies (Extended cut)
https://i.imgur.com/gtEvKt4.gif


So you see, your logic is illogical. By both visual and spoken material, the GoT scorpions would not take out Smaug, it'd be like a toothpick to him

Originally posted by Robtard
False!

Fact: Dwarven ballistas are very large; much, much larger and heavier than the GoT scorpions:

Battle of Five Armies (Extended cut)
https://i.imgur.com/gtEvKt4.gif


So you see, your logic is illogical. By both visual and spoken material, the GoT scorpions would not take out Smaug, it'd be like a toothpick to him

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Does Erebor's scorpion seem more powerful than GoT's? Clearly not.

My logic is fine.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
TZbsRYqZuys

Does Erebor's scorpion seem more powerful than GoT's? Clearly not.

My logic is fine.

That one looks about equal and it was also shooting a black spear and it bounced off Smaug harmlessly because he's nigh invulnerable according to lore.

Your logic is awful

Originally posted by Robtard
That one looks about equal and it was also shooting a black spear and it bounced off Smuag harmlessly.

Your logic is awful

Ohh Rob. You can't grasp the fact that Erebor's bolt can be charged with bare hands while GoT's requires levers and gears.

Whose logic is shitty here?

That one has a lever for cranking
https://i.imgur.com/um7VvLY.gif

Dude. Just give it up. Everything you have said is damn near wrong. Night King isnt winning this

Originally posted by Robtard
That one has a lever for cranking
https://i.imgur.com/um7VvLY.gif

And yet it can be charged with bare hands GoT's require for you to use the pulleys in order to charge it. Also, GoT is clearly bigger

GoT's ballista>>> Erebors.

You have nothing, Smaug get's impaled. But nice try, try with Ancalagon next time

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
And yet it can be charged with bare hands GoT's require for you to use the pulleys in order to charge it. Also, GoT is clearly bigger

GoT's ballista>>> Erebors.

You have nothing, Smaug get's impaled. But nice try, try with Ancalagon next time

It has a lever and fulcrum to pull the cord back, you're acting like it's a hand-held xbow is funny and shows desperation.

LoTR Dwarves have superhuman strength as well, so that factors in the possible forces needed to arm one.

A GoT scorpion likely wouldn't do shit to Smaug considering the lore behind him and he clearly could tear the NK to queer little ice cubes. Deal with it.

Originally posted by Robtard
It has a lever and fulcrum to pull the cord back, you're acting like it's a hand-held xbow is funny and shows desperation.

LoTR Dwarves have superhuman strength as well, so that factors in the possible forces needed to arm one.

A GoT scorpion likely wouldn't do shit to Smaug considering the lore behind him and he clearly could tear the NK to queer little ice cubes. Deal with it.

GoT's scorpion is bigger than Erebor's, based on that alone, logic is on my side fellow

And still, Ice Spear>>>>>>Black Arrow. Deal with it

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
GoT's scorpion is bigger than Erebor's, based on that alone, logic is on my side fellow

And still, Ice Spear>>>>>>Black Arrow. Deal with it

Doesn't prove it could take out Smaug.

Doesn't prove it could take out Smaug.

You're ignoring all the lore and showings for Smaug and assuming something the size of a toothpick to Smaug will kill him if it hits him anywhere. Your logic is stupid, Josh.

Also, by showings, the Black Spear killed a much larger/heavier and powerful dragon than the Ice Spear did, so by screen evidence, Black Spear > Ice Spear :0

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Dude. Just give it up. Everything you have said is damn near wrong. Night King isnt winning this Josh is one of the worst debaters to ever draw breath. Logic and reason have no place in his mind. Josh picks who he likes the most.

Originally posted by Robtard
Doesn't prove it could take out Smaug.

What it doesn't prove is that an Ice spear couldn't take out Smaug.

You're ignoring all the lore and showings for Smaug and assuming something the size of a toothpick to Smaug will kill him if it hits him anywhere. Your logic is stupid, Josh.

Also, by showings, the Black Spear killed a much larger/heavier and powerful dragon than the Ice Spear did, so by screen evidence, Black Spear > Ice Spear :0

Yeah, I know, it doesn't prove that Smaug can't survive an Ice spear, ergo, you've lost this!

The Black Spear hit the missing scale area. Drogon would obliterate Erebor just as Smaug did.

Logic eludes you.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Yeah, I know, it doesn't prove that Smaug can't survive an Ice spear, ergo, you've lost this!

The Black Spear hit the missing scale area. Drogon would obliterate Erebor without an issue.

Logic eludes you.

Nice negative.

Thereby proving that Smaug is nigh invulnerable and you agree

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Yeah, I know, it doesn't prove that Smaug can't survive an Ice spear, ergo, you've lost this!

The Black Spear hit the missing scale area. Drogon would obliterate Erebor just as Smaug did.

Logic eludes you. Baseless claim. You saying it kills him is not proof. NK missed more than he ever hit a dragon and he is very slow. Smaug would kill him before he even reacts. He stood there to take dragon fire and had an army at his behest and still lost to a stark wench.

Originally posted by Robtard
Nice negative.

Thereby proving that Smaug is nigh invulnerable and you agree

An Ice spear can shatter steel with 0 effort. Nice joke Rob.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
An Ice spear can shatter steel with 0 effort. Nice joke Rob. Prove he can hit him. The evidence suggests otherwise. Smaug is faster and the Nk has missed multiple times.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
An Ice spear can shatter steel with 0 effort. Nice joke Rob.

Smaug isn't made of steel, Josh. Come on, if you can't even get this bit right. Did you watch the films?

Originally posted by Robtard
Smaug isn't made of steel, Josh. Come on, if you can't even get this bit right. Did you watch the films?

Ice spear > Black arrow. C'mon Robbie boy.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Ice spear > Black arrow. C'mon Robbie boy. Prove it. All you do is repeat your baseless opinion without the evidence to back it up.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Ice spear > Black arrow. C'mon Robbie boy.


I said that if the NK is able to hit Smaug in his vulnerable spot or even eyes, he'd win, but that's a very long shot while Smaug could just casually stomp on the NK to win.

Originally posted by Robtard
I said that if the NK is able to hit Smaug in his vulnerable spot or even eyes, he'd win, but that's a very long shot while Smaug could just casually stomp on the NK to win.

The Ice Spear would eviscerate Smaug. He is an easy target to hit after all.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
The Ice Spear would eviscerate Smaug. He is an easy target to hit after all. NK misses more than he hits. You repeating your opinion does not make your argument legitimate or convincing above a 2nd grade level.

Smaug shits on him