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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-06/u-s-says-it-will-raise-tariffs-after-china-reneges-on-promises


Yay! Recession for everyone! Increase the cost of living for working class! MAGA!

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Trump knows what he's doing. He is doing what is best for our country.

Originally posted by TempAccount
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-06/u-s-says-it-will-raise-tariffs-after-china-reneges-on-promises


Yay! Recession for everyone! Increase the cost of living for working class! MAGA!

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Move to Japan.

Yeah **** that shit. I'm not a fan of tariffs.

If he was a big fan of free trade I might actually call myself a Trumper, but as it stands he's only the least objectionable option.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Trump knows what he's doing. He is doing what is best for our country. Yes, who doesn't love an increased cost of living

Originally posted by Surtur
Move to Japan.
Give it some time.

But seriously, I'd like to see a Trumper try and defend Tariffs given most are working class

That's the thing, someone who is a sane non-piece of shit knows people do not need to defend everything a politician they supported believes in.

Originally posted by Surtur
That's the thing, someone who is a sane non-piece of shit knows people do not need to defend everything a politician they supported believes in.

Yet you still felt the need to take a little dig a Kurk because he attacked your precious Trump here. Too funny.

Originally posted by TempAccount
Yes, who doesn't love an increased cost of living


Give it some time.

But seriously, I'd like to see a Trumper try and defend Tariffs given most are working class



You're either quite dumb or you're simply being disingenuous. China (along w/many other countries) is ripping us the f*** off and have been for a very long time. They deserve what they get.


You trying to turn this around by claiming Trumpers "love cost-of-living increase" is very disingenuous of you. One reason Trump got elected was because people who support him were tired of other nations f***ing us up the rear end and laughing at us while doing it because they knew our leaders were too spineless to do anything about it.


Well, my friend.. those Obama-era days of apology tours and ass kissing are over with.

Originally posted by Robtard
Yet you still felt the need to take a little dig a Kurk because he attacked your precious Trump here. Too funny.

Kiddo, you are done whining about people taking "little digs" at others lol. Sort of like Trump has no room to talk shit about someone else for posting too much on twitter.

Did you want to continue to cry about it? We can make it an issue, but you need to type "I want to make this an issue".

And that's not you disagreeing with that I said. lolz. Too. Funny.

Originally posted by Robtard
And that's not you disagreeing with that I said. lolz. Too. Funny.

Did you want to make it an issue, yes or no?

You already agreed, Surt. Lolz.

Trade warz, here we come. #maga

Just looking for a yes or no bro, shouldn't be difficult for an adult.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
You're either quite dumb or you're simply being disingenuous. China (along w/many other countries) is ripping us the f*** off and have been for a very long time. They deserve what they get.


You trying to turn this around by claiming Trumpers "love cost-of-living increase" is very disingenuous of you. One reason Trump got elected was because people who support him were tired of other nations f***ing us up the rear end and laughing at us while doing it because they knew our leaders were too spineless to do anything about it.


Well, my friend.. those Obama-era days of apology tours and ass kissing are over with. America has been ripping the entire world off since post WWII .

Trumpers bought the bullshit that spewed out of their idol's mouth in hopes of going back to the good 'ole days when America was isolationist and could afford to have a citizen base comprised of fat, unintelligent, lazy, simple-minded people.

America is rapidly losing its sphere of influence, and Trump is a last ditch escape attempt before the anaconda asphyxiates what it used to be.

If Trumpy wants to use his Art of the Deal negotiating prowess to avert this raise in Tariffs and 'strike a deal' then by all means let him. I'd be impressed. Otherwise this move is just shooting himself in the foot. As a Trumper you'd be an idiot to support this unless you're a die-hard nationalist with enough money to not give a shit about recession/cost-of-living.

Surt and his toothless microagressions. Too. Funny.

Originally posted by TempAccount
America has been ripping the entire world off since post WWII .

Trumpers bought the bullshit that spewed out of their idol's mouth in hopes of going back to the good 'ole days when America was isolationist and could afford to have a citizen base comprised of fat, unintelligent, lazy, simple-minded people.

America is rapidly losing its sphere of influence, and Trump is a last ditch escape attempt before the anaconda asphyxiates what it used to be.

If Trumpy wants to use his Art of the Deal negotiating prowess to avert this raise in Tariffs and 'strike a deal' then by all means let him. I'd be impressed. Otherwise this move is just shooting himself in the foot. As a Trumper you'd be an idiot to support this unless you're a die-hard nationalist with enough money to not give a shit about recession/cost-of-living.

Who'd you vote for in 2016 and if you were too young to vote, who *would* you have voted for?

Originally posted by Robtard
Surt and his toothless microagressions. Too. Funny.

Oh I love that you're mad over posts mad in another part of the forum

Originally posted by TempAccount

If Trumpy wants to use his Art of the Deal negotiating prowess to avert this raise in Tariffs and 'strike a deal' then by all means let him. I'd be impressed. Otherwise this move is just shooting himself in the foot. As a Trumper you'd be an idiot to support this unless you're a die-hard nationalist with enough money to not give a shit about recession/cost-of-living.

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Awww move to Japan.

Originally posted by Surtur
Who'd you vote for in 2016 and if you were too young to vote, who *would* you have voted for? Was too young to vote, but was pro-Trump. Mainly because I attended a very leftist school infested with Bernie's children and wanted to troll them. Knew it was going to be a shit-show, but, hey, who doesn't love drama?

Originally posted by Surtur
Awww move to Japan.

I need to finish my degree first. They don't accept unskilled peasants

Originally posted by Surtur
Awww move to Japan.



...or better yet Venezuela or North Korea lol.

Originally posted by Surtur
Awww move to Japan.

Because I speak so highly of Japan? What a weird comment.

Are you drunk on rubbing alcohol again, Surt?

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
...or better yet Venezuela or North Korea lol.
How... is free trade... socialist?

No one said that did they?

FAF Trish Reagan has something to say about this:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFPa7Mwz3zs

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
FAF Trish Reagan has something to say about this:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFPa7Mwz3zs

1. I'd like to see my man juice all over that woman's face

2. It's a mutual lose-lose situation. Trump has no leverage by taking a hard-liner approach. China has de-industrialized the USA and we'd be crippled by cutting them off. India is no-where close to ready to serve as a replacement. Accept it.

If Trump wants to sit down and negotiate a deal like a big boy that's fine, but pouting like a child and walking away from the table all together (like he did with N. Korea and look how that's turning out) is a moronic move.

I had a discussion with the son of a farmer some time ago. He moved out here a while back but his dad still holds their midwest farm down on his own Trump's tariffs are apparently killing folks like his dad. To simplify, China is actually a huge purchaser of many crops our farming brothers and sisters produce. If you put tariffs on China, well, they retaliate with their own tariffs against you. It forces these hardworking folks to lose business despite Trump claiming to be their champion.

The USDA is still scrambling, putting together money to support the American farmers as best they can, but the outlook isn't super bright. You gotta think there's a better route, than using taxpayer money as some kinda band aid while the President takes money almost directly out of farmers' hands.

Edit. Accidental double post.

Originally posted by StyleTime
I had a discussion with the son of a farmer some time ago. He moved out here a while back but his dad still holds their midwest farm down on his own Trump's tariffs are apparently killing folks like his dad. To simplify, China is actually a huge purchaser of many crops our farming brothers and sisters produce. If you put tariffs on China, well, they retaliate with their own tariffs against you. It forces these hardworking folks to lose business despite Trump claiming to be their champion.

The USDA is still scrambling, putting together money to support the American farmers as best they can, but the outlook isn't super bright. You gotta think there's a better route, than using taxpayer money as some kinda band aid while the President takes money almost directly out of farmers' hands.

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B-b-but people do stuff back when you do stuff to them. People are doing too much stuff.

Stop doing stuff!

Originally posted by StyleTime
B-b-but people do stuff back when you do stuff to them. People are doing too much stuff.

Stop doing stuff!

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I see you back there. I said no more stuff! And less things too!

Originally posted by StyleTime
B-b-but people do stuff back when you do stuff to them. People are doing too much stuff.

Stop doing stuff!



Yep. That's the way it works. When other nations rip us off to the extent that China has been doing to us for many years then there damn well should be consequences to them. F*** this "turning the other cheek" or "taking it up the a** w/no vaseline" BS we got from the last joke of a "president".


As I said before, the sissy Obama-era days are over with and I guarantee you that most hard-working middle americans approve of what our great president is doing.

Originally posted by Robtard
Because I speak so highly of Japan? What a weird comment.

Are you drunk on rubbing alcohol again, Surt?

But I've never been drunk on rubbing alcohol. This is fake news.

Also why do you love Japan so much what about Pearl Harbor?

Nah, he wasn't. I'll put my faith in the highly successful businessman over some random person on the internet any day of the week.


Keep up the "trade wars" if that's what it takes, Mr. President.

I truly hope to be proven wrong on this by Trump.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Nah, he wasn't. I'll put my faith in the highly successful businessman over some random person on the internet any day of the week.


Keep up the "trade wars" if that's what it takes, Mr. President.

^
IOW: "Orange man good, always good!"

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Nah, he wasn't. I'll put my faith in the highly successful businessman over some random person on the internet any day of the week.


Keep up the "trade wars" if that's what it takes, Mr. President.

In reality, Trump appears to have lost more money than nearly any other individual American taxpayer.

Triggity

TBF though, he's also made more than most Americans.
TBF though Part Deux, he's also inherited more than most Americans.
TBF part III: The Third Part, he's had more help (starting with his father and his high-end contacts) in business than most Americans.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
In reality, Trump appears to have lost more money than nearly any other individual American taxpayer.

I wish so so so badly that I could have been a consultant for him and got to keep 10% of all the money I saved him or generated in new revenue.

I would be so absurdly rich. I hate it that I was born into poverty because I have to work so hard to climb up the SES ladder to accumulate skills, education, money, and reputation.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I wish so so so badly that I could have been a consultant for him and got to keep 10% of all the money I saved him or generated in new revenue.

I would be so absurdly rich. I hate it that I was born into poverty because I have to work so hard to climb up the SES ladder to accumulate skills, education, money, and reputation. Can relate, but it makes you value what you get more because it's yours.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Yep. That's the way it works. When other nations rip us off to the extent that China has been doing to us for many years then there damn well should be consequences to them. F*** this "turning the other cheek" or "taking it up the a** w/no vaseline" BS we got from the last joke of a "president".


As I said before, the sissy Obama-era days are over with and I guarantee you that most hard-working middle americans approve of what our great president is doing.
Not very Christ-like yo.

Jokes aside, it's less about turning the other cheek and more about finding the most pragmatic solution to boneheads being boneheads. And by boneheads, I mean politicians.
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Nah, he wasn't. I'll put my faith in the highly successful businessman over some random person on the internet any day of the week.


Keep up the "trade wars" if that's what it takes, Mr. President.
The farmer dude was right though, as others have posted. I'll admit to being completely ignorant on that issue before speaking with him as well. It's the cool thing about talking to folks with different upbringings. He and I were fairly opposite politically(or so I thought), but I just listened and asked questions. Turns out simple conversations can reveal a pretty big ideological complexity that you didn't foresee. He really enlightened me on that segment of the population.

Which is why I'm trying to understand you here. I'm no Trump fan but, like Surtur, I totally hope Trump proves everyone wrong and solves all of our problems. It'd be silly to hope for anything else.

I just wonder how tenable this policy actually is. Do you see this working in the short term? Long term? In the event it fails, how do we deal with the damage done? The USDA dropping billions annually, just on this one group of folks, isn't a small amount of money.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOaN-PEhizM

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
FAF Trish Reagan has something to say about this:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFPa7Mwz3zs


lol Apparently, the chinese weren't too happy with what Trish said in the video above because their state-run media targeted her (a private citizen):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxT4ToZSxgY

Go back to the other threads.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Trump knows what he's doing. He is doing what is best for our country. Clueless.

Go jump off a cliff, Quan.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Clueless.

In 2018 Trump had to ask for 12billion in tax dollars to bail out the US farmers hurt by his trade wars.

This year it's 16billion.

In 2020, can we expect him to ask for a 20+billion bailout?

-tank the economy by starting a trade war with other countries to bring manufacturing jobs back to America
-balloon government spending to ramp up your war on immigration so illegals arent taking american jobs
-do absolutely nothing in any way to curtail, restrict or counteract the effects of automation, which is projected to wipe out more then 40% of the job market in the next 50 years while replacing barely even a 10th of jobs lost

what did the president of the united states mean by this hmm

Economics has predicted that if the unemployment rate drops from the start of an election year, the current president will likely be re-elected. If it rises, then out they go.

Trump is shooting himself in the foot with this move before the 2020 election.

Dow heads for fifth straight negative week, longest losing streak since 2011

Stocks were headed for weekly losses on Friday as investors worry the U.S.-China trade war is hurting economic growth.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average is down about 1% this week and is on pace to post its fifth consecutive weekly decline, its longest since 2011. The S&P 500 and Nasdaq Composite were headed for a third straight week of losses, their longest since December 2018. -snip

#maga

I really thought trade and economy was the one area Trump couldn't f*ck up.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Clueless.



Yes... yes, you are.

Originally posted by TempAccount
I really thought trade and economy was the one area Trump couldn't f*ck up. Haha, wrong mate and with Brexit I see a world depression coming.

Tester blasts Trump for China trade war, calls farmer bailout a "Band-Aid"

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