Headbutt duel: Superman vs. Captain Marvel

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FrothByte
Rules:

1. The combatants hold onto each other's forearms and keep each other at arms' length.
2. Each combatant is given a turn to headbutt the other as hard as they can.
3. The person receiving the headbutt is allowed to brace themselves but are otherwise not allowed to move.
4. Person delivering the headbutt is allowed to levitate a max of 2 feet in the air to gain leverage as long as they maintain their grip on their opponent's forearms.
5. Person who lets go of the other's arms first loses.

Who wins?

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by FrothByte
Rules:

1. The combatants hold onto each other's forearms and keep each other at arms' length.
2. Each combatant is given a turn to headbutt the other as hard as they can.
3. The person receiving the headbutt is allowed to brace themselves but are otherwise not allowed to move.
4. Person delivering the headbutt is allowed to levitate a max of 2 feet in the air to gain leverage as long as they maintain their grip on their opponent's forearms.
5. Person who lets go of the other's arms first loses.

Who wins?

Carol for the win.

steverules_2
Originally posted by FrothByte
Rules:

1. The combatants hold onto each other's forearms and keep each other at arms' length.
2. Each combatant is given a turn to headbutt the other as hard as they can.
3. The person receiving the headbutt is allowed to brace themselves but are otherwise not allowed to move.
4. Person delivering the headbutt is allowed to levitate a max of 2 feet in the air to gain leverage as long as they maintain their grip on their opponent's forearms.
5. Person who lets go of the other's arms first loses.

Who wins?

Is this thread because supes head butted WW in JL?

FrothByte
Originally posted by steverules_2
Is this thread because supes head butted WW in JL?

Partially yes. But it's also because Carol won a headbutt against Thanos. So both of them have a decent feat of headbutting a super powered opponent.

BrolyBlack
Superman

relentless1
Supes

carver9
Carol, easily. She tanked a headbutt from an IG wielder as if it was nothing.

Insane Titan

steverules_2

Insane Titan

steverules_2

Psychotron
Originally posted by carver9
Carol, easily. She tanked a headbutt from an IG wielder as if it was nothing.

He couldn't use the IG on her at that point because she was holding his hand open. Remember that the power stone alone was enough to dispatch her, so obviously the full power of the IG would annihilate her.

John Murdoch
With the stips at hand, I lean Supes.

If Carol can use her shield, the odds tip in her favor IMO (the OP stipulations don't seem to allow her to have a shield up though).

Robtard
Superman absolutely wins the headbutt contest.

FrothByte
Originally posted by John Murdoch
With the stips at hand, I lean Supes.

If Carol can use her shield, the odds tip in her favor IMO (the OP stipulations don't seem to allow her to have a shield up though).

She's definitely allowed to power up as Binary. That shouldn't break any of the rules in OP.

FrothByte
Just to play devil's advocate:

Superman was rocked harder by WW's headbutt than CM was by Thanos' headbutt. And I'm pretty sure Thanos is stronger than WW.

h1a8
Carol has her forcefield up?

FrothByte
Originally posted by h1a8
Carol has her forcefield up?

What forcefield?

But yes she's allowed to use whatever powers she has at her disposal as long as her attack is still a headbutt and she breaks none of the rules in OP.

BrolyBlack
Originally posted by FrothByte
Just to play devil's advocate:

Superman was rocked harder by WW's headbutt than CM was by Thanos' headbutt. And I'm pretty sure Thanos is stronger than WW.

Superman has just come back to life. His head was already a bit messed up.

FrothByte
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Superman has just come back to life. His head was already a bit messed up.

Psychologically, yes his head was messed up. But this fight is purely physical.

BrolyBlack
Just rewatched the scene he barley felt it.

FrothByte
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Just rewatched the scene he barley felt it.

Yes but his head still snapped back whereas Carol didn't even flinch when Thanos headbutted her.

h1a8

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by FrothByte
Just to play devil's advocate:

Superman was rocked harder by WW's headbutt than CM was by Thanos' headbutt. And I'm pretty sure Thanos is stronger than WW.

Completely right.

Darth Thor

cdtm
Superman wins, with ease. The planet busting World Engines didn't even slow him down.

h1a8
Originally posted by Darth Thor
He means thats not a forcefield. But rather her binary powers fully active. The source of her strength, durability and power.

Wrong. Thanos head did not get 1in to her head. It was some type of barrier.
She doesn't have it up all the time as we see objects and characters making physical contact with her when she is in binary mode.

Darth Thor
Originally posted by h1a8
Wrong. Thanos head did not get 1in to her head. It was some type of barrier.
She doesn't have it up all the time as we see objects and characters making physical contact with her when she is in binary mode.


And yet she was making physical contact with Thanos at the time. Gripping his glove/hand.

h1a8
Her greatest feat is no selling a Thanos headbutt.
Thinking about it, that's not really a great feat if you think about how strong Thanos headbutt is. Thanos headbutt a damaged fat Thor. I would say that Superman's headbutt is much stronger.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by cdtm
Superman wins, with ease. The planet busting World Engines didn't even slow him down.

A planet buster and a terraformer isn't the samething cdtm!

cdtm
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
A planet buster and a terraformer isn't the samething cdtm!


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BruceSkywalker
Carol takes this... she barely flinched after being headbutted by Thanos

FrothByte
Originally posted by h1a8
Her greatest feat is no selling a Thanos headbutt.
Thinking about it, that's not really a great feat if you think about how strong Thanos headbutt is. Thanos headbutt a damaged fat Thor. I would say that Superman's headbutt is much stronger.

But would you say that Wonder Woman headbutts stronger than Thanos?

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by FrothByte
Yes but his head still snapped back whereas Carol didn't even flinch when Thanos headbutted her.

Yeah, that's the thing.

Carol has been OP as f*ck since CM's ending.

Doesn't matter; people are still petitioning to have her recast with a black lesbian.

h1a8
Originally posted by FrothByte
But would you say that Wonder Woman headbutts stronger than Thanos?

Possibly, considering Superman's durability. Obviously her headbutt appeared a lot faster and more powerful. Speed is definitely a large factor of striking power. I would say it's a good feat for WW, not a bad one for Superman. IM even made Thor's head snap back with a headbutt. Doesn't mean Thor was really hurt or anything and IM is a lot weaker than all these characters.

Silent Master
So you're saying that feats aren't inconsistent and that we can use characters A's past feats in order to determine character B's strength, durability, speed etc?

h1a8
Originally posted by Silent Master
So you're saying that feats aren't inconsistent and that we can use characters A's past feats in order to determine character B's strength, durability, speed etc?

Due to feat inconsistency, we can use characters A's average feats (or averaging low with high) to determine character B's strength.

FrothByte
Originally posted by h1a8
Possibly, considering Superman's durability. Obviously her headbutt appeared a lot faster and more powerful. Speed is definitely a large factor of striking power. I would say it's a good feat for WW, not a bad one for Superman. IM even made Thor's head snap back with a headbutt. Doesn't mean Thor was really hurt or anything and IM is a lot weaker than all these characters.

Nah, you can't use Superman's durability to define WW's strength when we're trying to figure out Superman's durability based on WW's strength..

Josh_Alexander
Is this even debatable!?

Carol clearly wins here!

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WW was able to sway Superman! WW is in no way near the strength level of beings like Thor or Hulk, and yet these ones are clearly oustrengthen by Thanos.

Carol wasn't even touched by Thanos! Her force/energy shield is impressive.

SSJGGogeta
Superman knocks her head off like her neck is made of glass.

Silent Master
Originally posted by h1a8
Due to feat inconsistency, we can use characters A's average feats (or averaging low with high) to determine character B's strength.

What are you using as Superman's average?

h1a8
The average is more of a feeling, not a calculation. It's a weighted average too. For example, if he has 5 high showings and 1 low showing then the weighted average is closer to the high showings than the low one.

Silent Master
Originally posted by h1a8
The average is more of a feeling, not a calculation. It's a weighted average too. For example, if he has 5 high showings and 1 low showing then the weighted average is closer to the high showings than the low one.

Again, What are you using as Superman's average?

h1a8
Originally posted by Silent Master
Again, What are you using as Superman's average?

How does someone answer that? Give me an example.

Also what does it matter since we use highest showings for the characters we are arguing in the thread?

quanchi112
Carol is far more powerful than a guy who was concussed by WW.

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