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1. Lightsaber combat.
2. Force.
3. All out.
Both are in their prime, but Vader does have his suit.

Dooku gets his revenge conclusively.

Originally posted by Bentley
Dooku gets his revenge conclusively. How so? :3

Vader reaches, Dooku teaches.

Dooku ragdolls.

Originally posted by HP Legend
Dooku ragdolls. Vader>Dooku in force abilities at the least.

Vader bullies him and smashes through his guard.

Vader might not like force lightning, but he can definitely tank it long enough to break Dooku's guard.

Originally posted by victreebelvictr
Vader>Dooku in force abilities at the least.

Why?

Originally posted by HP Legend
Why? Vader's feats outclass Dooku's relating to force abilities.

What is the most impressive force feat that Dooku has done?

And do anyone of them really compare to Vader destroying an entire AT-AT with TK?

Originally posted by victreebelvictr



I disagree. I'll elaborate below.



Either pressuring Yoda with his lightning, throwing a 200m Sith Cruiser with TK like a football or ragdolling Obi-Wan Kenobi.



When did this happen? Regardless some of the above are definitely better.

He's talking about that one canon comic.

Jeesus this fight has been done to death. Vader wins

Originally posted by TheIndyJedi
Jeesus this fight has been done to death. Vader wins


Dont discourage. The forum needs to live on. No better way than revisiting the classics!

Dooku only really lost against Peak Anakin at the top of his shape because he was playing with him, got tired out by team tactics and allowed him to build up rage. In a random encounter without Sheev's scenario of betrayal Dooku would fare much better.

Now Vader is certainly physically powerful but I don't see his speed being enough to quickly overwhelm the Count. Tyranus has good mobility and was able to stall off Yoda in a saber fight, I don't think Vader ever pulled off a better feat in his suit.

Originally posted by Bentley
Dooku only really lost against Peak Anakin at the top of his shape because he was playing with him, got tired out by team tactics and allowed him to build up rage.


Too many excuses here for a guy who always struggled hard against a less powerful Anakin throughout TCW.

Peak Anakin > Dooku. That is pretty much unquestionable. Now, back to Machine Vader vs Dooku...

Machine Vader wouldn't win in a straight up fight vs Peak Anakin either. The context is important because before his rage boost Anakin was, at best, a peer of Dooku. But Anakin had speed to back his power. Unless the arena is very reduced Dooku would eventually outmanouver Vader before the later can overpower him (imo).

Originally posted by HP Legend
Originally posted by victreebelvictr



I disagree. I'll elaborate below.



Either pressuring Yoda with his lightning, throwing a 200m Sith Cruiser with TK like a football or ragdolling Obi-Wan Kenobi.



When did this happen? Regardless some of the above are definitely better.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
He's talking about that one canon comic. :3

Originally posted by Bentley
Machine Vader wouldn't win in a straight up fight vs Peak Anakin either. The context is important because before his rage boost Anakin was, at best, a peer of Dooku. But Anakin had speed to back his power. Unless the arena is very reduced Dooku would eventually outmanouver Vader before the later can overpower him (imo). But could peak suit Vader take out Peak Anakin in force abilities?

Peak Anakin vs Peak Vader in a Force exclusive Match? You should open the thread it could be interesting. In my mind Anakin should have the raw power advantage and superior stamina but the machine body should be able to sponge more punishment and Vader has a deeper knowledge of the Force. I kind of feel Anakin just lacks the raw feats to give him the win.

Peak Anakin's Force Power far eclipses Vader's lmao.

Originally posted by HP Legend
Peak Anakin's Force Power far eclipses Vader's lmao. Prove it. :3

Originally posted by Bentley
Dooku only really lost against Peak Anakin at the top of his shape because he was playing with him, got tired out by team tactics and allowed him to build up rage. In a random encounter without Sheev's scenario of betrayal Dooku would fare much better.

Now Vader is certainly physically powerful but I don't see his speed being enough to quickly overwhelm the Count. Tyranus has good mobility and was able to stall off Yoda in a saber fight, I don't think Vader ever pulled off a better feat in his suit. I may just do that. :3

Originally posted by victreebelvictr
Prove it. :3

Vader was significantly below Anakin as of ESB per George Lucas and there's no documentation of massive power growth for Vader between ESB and ROTJ thus meaning Peak Anakin>Vader.

Originally posted by Bentley
Machine Vader wouldn't win in a straight up fight vs Peak Anakin either. The context is important because before his rage boost Anakin was, at best, a peer of Dooku. But Anakin had speed to back his power. Unless the arena is very reduced Dooku would eventually outmanouver Vader before the later can overpower him (imo).


Thats very possible against machine Vader.

Just not convinced Dooku could have ever won against Peak ROTS Ani. Think there may have been a decent case for that pre-TCW. But TCW gave a very different meaning to that final fight.

Vader clowns him.

Vader

Vaduh

Reasons for Vader winning?

Leaning Vader

Close fight, can see a case being made either way.

With that said, I'd lean Vader. His abilities in the Force and damage soak should make up for whatever disparities his fencing skills suffer when juxtaposed against Dooku.

Originally posted by Deronn Solo
Close fight, can see a case being made either way.

With that said, I'd lean Vader. His abilities in the Force and damage soak should make up for whatever disparities his fencing skills suffer when juxtaposed against Dooku. You mean the very obvious disparities that are liable to get Vader decapitated? Opposed to whatever Force abilities you think allow Vader to make up for this shortcoming, even though Yoda was forced to resort to his lightsaber blade against Dooku?

Sounds interesting.