Star Wars vs. Dceu

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quanchi112
All eras of the Star Wars universe allied against the collective might of the dceu. Who wins?

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
All eras of the Star Wars universe allied against the collective might of the dceu. Who wins?

Define win. Because no matter what they do, Earth would still be poped out of the universe.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Define win. Because no matter what they do, Earth would still be poped out of the universe. Dceu has Krypton as well. Everything and everyone allows against Star Wars. All the old dceu powerhouses from the time they defeated Steppenwolf.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
Dceu has Krypton as well. Everything and everyone allows against Star Wars. All the old dceu powerhouses from the time they defeated Steppenwolf.

Lol...

3 Planet busters....SW erases any planet the DCEU has to offer.


That's why I said, define win!


In the end, guys like Superman could eventually kill SW big characters, but for what? Everything they hold dear will be gone...

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Lol...

3 Planet busters....SW erases any planet the DCEU has to offer.


That's why I said, define win!


In the end, guys like Superman could eventually kill SW big characters, but for what? Everything they hold dear will be gone... To conquer your foes. Do you know what win means?

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
To conquer your foes. Do you know what win means?

Winning is circumstancial.

Just like Thor beheading Thanos in EG was no real win. Samething will happen here.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Winning is circumstancial.

Just like Thor beheading Thanos in EG was no real win. Samething will happen here. Winning was stopping him from killing half the universe. He failed. This is a war you moron. Thanos already fulfilled his mission, was greatly weakened, Thor had help, a sneak attack, etc. context.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
Winning was stopping him from killing half the universe. He failed. This is a war you moron. Thanos already fulfilled his mission, was greatly weakened, Thor had help, a sneak attack, etc. context.

Defeating the other team is useless if they won't have world to come back to or something to fight for (loved ones, families, etc).

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Defeating the other team is useless if they won't have world to come back to or something to fight for (loved ones, families, etc). If you force a surrender or conquer you win. It is that simple.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
If you force a surrender or conquer you win. It is that simple.

Defeating and winning isn't the same thing.

The Avengers defeated Thanos at the beginning of the film, that doesn't mean they won!

Samething happens here. DCEU could in the end defeat SW characters, but they would never win.

Specially not when you consider that the JL is all about protecting Earth, and the Kryptonians (Zod etc) are all about ensuring Krypton's survival.


Either way, given what I said before. JL would in the end defeat the SW main characters, but the true victory would in the end be SW's.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Defeating and winning isn't the same thing.

The Avengers defeated Thanos at the beginning of the film, that doesn't mean they won!

Samething happens here. DCEU could in the end defeat SW characters, but they would never win.

Specially not when you consider that the JL is all about protecting Earth, and the Kryptonians (Zod etc) are all about ensuring Krypton's survival.


Either way, given what I said before. JL would in the end defeat the SW main characters, but the true victory would in the end be SW's. Thanos defeated them when it mattered. The battle was over, he destroyed the stones was extremely hurt, etc.

How could they defeat all the Star Wars characters when they have Death Stars, Star destroyers, Star killer base, etc. you seem to think the faction of Star Wars just charges into battle when that is not how it would go.

You sure with Star Wars but are too silly to properly assess a war what it would truly mean.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos defeated them when it mattered. The battle was over, he destroyed the stones was extremely hurt, etc.

How could they defeat all the Star Wars characters when they have Death Stars, Star destroyers, Star killer base, etc. you seem to think the faction of Star Wars just charges into battle when that is not how it would go.

You sure with Star Wars but are too silly to properly assess a war what it would truly mean.

Guys like Superman and Zod could easily fly through and avoid the bigger guns. Infilter the different ships and planets, kill the characters etc.

If they can avoid being hit by the Planet busters, then they win.

Next time Quan, just specify on the battle conditions

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Guys like Superman and Zod could easily fly through and avoid the bigger guns. Infilter the different ships and planets, kill the characters etc.

If they can avoid being hit by the Planet busters, then they win.

Next time Quan, just specify on the battle conditions No, they cannot just fly through space, powers only work near young stars, etc. Superman was rattled by one ships blast. Quit ignoring how these characters work.

How? They destroy a galactic empire by flying around in space?

laughing out loud

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, they cannot just fly through space, powers only work near young stars, etc. Superman was rattled by one ships blast. Quit ignoring how these characters work.

How? They destroy a galactic empire by flying around in space?

laughing out loud

If the main characters are near the enemy they die. Which I would expect them to, as you stated no battle conditions for this thread.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
If the main characters are near the enemy they die. Which I would expect them to, as you stated no battle conditions for this thread. They are allowed all resources. Why would they all be together on either side. Just stay out of the threads you idiot.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
They are allowed all resources. Why would they all be together on either side. Just stay out of the threads you idiot.

Next time create a proper thread

And don't worry, I was finished.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Next time create a proper thread

And don't worry, I was finished. I did you assumed the entire Star Wars army is packed on a football field.

Dramatic Gecko
Superman can't be everywhere at once so inevitably star wars will win. But in a pit with all fighters from the universes Supes remains triumphant in a really boring battle of him ***** slapping everyone like the uninteresting character he is. Perhaps the death star could kill him but its not like they could get a direct hit on him. Perhaps by some miracle he can be force choked.

Darth Thor
Originally posted by quanchi112
Winning was stopping him from killing half the universe.


Thor beat the shit out of Thanos then chopped his head off.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Thor beat the shit out of Thanos then chopped his head off. Nah. He waited until multiple others held back a weakened Thanos then lost his shit. Thor failed and sobbed to mummy.


laughing out loud

Darth Thor
Originally posted by quanchi112
Nah. He waited until multiple others held back a weakened Thanos then lost his shit. Thor failed and sobbed to mummy.


laughing out loud


That was after Thor already bear the crud out of him, and forced him to run.

Later Thor found him and chopped his head off. The others werent needed.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Darth Thor
That was after Thor already bear the crud out of him, and forced him to run.

Later Thor found him and chopped his head off. The others werent needed. Another pure twisting of the facts. Thor failed to stop him. He failed. He went into a deep depression and hulk saw right through his pain. Poor guy put on weight and felt worthless. He isolated himself. Awwww Thor you should have never challenged Thanos.


You can troll and brag about a destiny fulfilled Thanos who was nearly killed by destroying the stones and the others holding Thanos back. What a coward. Rocket quickly said what did you do. Thor lost it. Awwwwww.

Psychotron
All eras of Star Wars? You realize that includes the entire might of the Republic, CIS, and the Empire, right? That's THREE galaxy-spanning fleets capable of leveling planets, tens of millions of clones, droids, and stormtroopers, over 10,000 Jedi Knights, 4 Sith Lords, and two Death Stars. Even Superman can't beat that.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Psychotron
All eras of Star Wars? You realize that includes the entire might of the Republic, CIS, and the Empire, right? That's THREE galaxy-spanning fleets capable of leveling planets, tens of millions of clones, droids, and stormtroopers, over 10,000 Jedi Knights, 4 Sith Lords, and two Death Stars. Even Superman can't beat that. Say that last part again in caps for me.

Psychotron
I wouldn't do anything for you.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Psychotron
I wouldn't do anything for you. Already said it once. Totally used you. It felt great.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Psychotron
All eras of Star Wars? You realize that includes the entire might of the Republic, CIS, and the Empire, right? That's THREE galaxy-spanning fleets capable of leveling planets, tens of millions of clones, droids, and stormtroopers, over 10,000 Jedi Knights, 4 Sith Lords, and two Death Stars. Even Superman can't beat that.

Yeah, TBH I was thinking more of the main characters being nearby.

But if this is a realistic battle and the DCEU spawns randomly in the SW galaxy then....They really hold no chance like at all.

The SWverse is one of the most millitarized galaxies in movie history.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Yeah, TBH I was thinking more of the main characters being nearby.

But if this is a realistic battle and the DCEU spawns randomly in the SW galaxy then....They really hold no chance like at all.

The SWverse is one of the most millitarized galaxies in movie history. So you did not understand the thread and concede. Perfect.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
So you did not understand the thread and concede. Perfect.

No, I am realizing that you made a spite thread.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
No, I am realizing that you made a spite thread. If you believe it is spite then you concede to not grasping the thread.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
If you believe it is spite then you concede to not grasping the thread.

You made a thread with a huge difference in power scale.

We know you hate the DCEU. Funny thing is that I don't see the MCU winning here either (Without the IG or Dormmamu ofcourse).

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
You made a thread with a huge difference in power scale.

We know you hate the DCEU. Funny thing is that I don't see the MCU winning here either (Without the IG or Dormmamu ofcourse). I will battlezone the MCU vs. Star Wars minus the ig and Dormammu. After the other battlezone. This topic interests me. I bet you will not though because you are weak.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
I will battlezone the MCU vs. Star Wars minus the ig and Dormammu. After the other battlezone. This topic interests me. I bet you will not though because you are weak.

Same conditions?

I get to have all the eras of SW continuity?

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Same conditions?

I get to have all the eras of SW continuity? Just film related. I get no MCU shows and you get no star wars shows. Just the films. We would have this after Rise of Skywalker clips become available.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
Just film related. I get no MCU shows and you get no star wars shows. Just the films. We would have this after Rise of Skywalker clips become available.

Canon material for the movies should be valid.

EU would ofcourse fall outside.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Canon material for the movies should be valid.

EU would ofcourse fall outside. That would be worse for you. It would be films only. You are already eliminating Dormammu and the ig. If you believe it is spite then prove it. You have Galactus armadas, two Death Stars, Starkiller base, and over 10,000 Jedi to your ranks.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
That would be worse for you. It would be films only. You are already eliminating Dormammu and the ig. If you believe it is spite then prove it. You have Galactus armadas, two Death Stars, Starkiller base, and over 10,000 Jedi to your ranks.

I need all canon material to quantify my armies numbers.

Again, canon material is canon material.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I need all canon material to quantify my armies numbers.

Again, canon material is canon material. So you already pussed out. It is the same for both sides. I am excluding canon material and heavyweights from the MCU. You can quantify from the films. You always puss out.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
So you already pussed out. It is the same for both sides. I am excluding canon material and heavyweights from the MCU. You can quantify from the films. You always puss out.

You said the SW verse vs The MCU.

That means I need to quantify the SW armatas. Unless you are realizing how disadvanteous the MCU's armies are.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
You said the SW verse vs The MCU.

That means I need to quantify the SW armatas. Unless you are realizing how disadvanteous the MCU's armies are. No, you can quantify by the films. It is telling you want to take out a being and a universal weapon. Star Wars transportation is nowhere near as great as the MCUs and the power levels are not even close.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, you can quantify by the films. It is telling you want to take out a being and a universal weapon. Star Wars transportation is nowhere near as great as the MCUs and the power levels are not even close.

......Ehhh...That's why they released canon material for the movies...

Again, they are canon material, isn't like am gonna use EU material.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
......Ehhh...That's why they released canon material for the movies...

Again, they are canon material, isn't like am gonna use EU material. So is Dormammu and the ig. You cannot have it both ways. MCU has more content coming in shows too.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
So is Dormammu and the ig. You cannot have it both ways. MCU has more content coming in shows too.

Dormammu is basically unbeatable.

IG is a universal weapon.

I said that SW wipes if these are abscent.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Dormammu is basically unbeatable.

IG is a universal weapon.

I said that SW wipes if these are abscent. He is not invulnerable. So it is still canon based off your canon only position. Films only without that. Take it or leave it.

Josh_Alexander
Funny thing is that I don't see the MCU winning here either (Without the IG or Dormmamu ofcourse).

This is my position.

And you clearly stated that this is ALL ERA's SWverse.

Canon material for the movies is as it's name suggest valid for the movies and therefore valid for debating.

Unless you clearly rule against these in your thread guidelines, such material is valid.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
This is my position.

And you clearly stated that this is ALL ERA's SWverse.

Canon material for the movies is as it's name suggest valid for the movies and therefore valid for debating.

Unless you clearly rule against these in your thread guidelines, such material is valid. I am ignoring other canon material for the MCU. We are in the films section. Films only. You back down. Knew you would not accept.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
I am ignoring other canon material for the MCU. We are in the films section. Films only. You back down. Knew you would not accept.

The conditions of the thread never limited these and therefore my position is valid.

I am not running from anything. The SW verse (canon) would obliterate MCU (excluding IG and Dormammu).

That's my original position. You want to argue/BZ otherwise that's on you.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
The conditions of the thread never limited these and therefore my position is valid.

I am not running from anything. The SW verse (canon) would obliterate MCU (excluding IG and Dormammu).

That's my original position. You want to argue/BZ otherwise that's on you. You ran once again. Sad.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
You ran once again. Sad.

No, I stated my postion, you tried to tamper it.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
No, I stated my postion, you tried to tamper it. Films only you backed down in the films part of the board. I won.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
All eras of the Star Wars universe allied against the collective might of the dceu. Who wins?

Nowhere here does it state "films only".

And again, canon material is valid for the films, ergo, I can use them to debate.

Flyattractor
https://www.crystalwind.ca/images/stories/awakening/owenwaters/power-of-imagination.jpg

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Nowhere here does it state "films only".

And again, canon material is valid for the films, ergo, I can use them to debate. This is the movie board. You never grasped and initially said dceu wins.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
This is the movie board. You never grasped and initially said dceu wins.

I know, that's why I'm not using extended Universe material but rather Canon.

Flyattractor
Yes. This is the MOVIE Board. Not the QuanchiDickLicker EGO Board.

If only you were smart enough to figure that out.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I know, that's why I'm not using extended Universe material but rather Canon. Films only for both. You conceded. You do not grasp much.

Flyattractor
Originally posted by Flyattractor
https://www.crystalwind.ca/images/stories/awakening/owenwaters/power-of-imagination.jpg


See Quancherackko.. That is how you QUOTE PICS!

quanchi112
Originally posted by Flyattractor
See Quancherackko.. That is how you QUOTE PICS! Beg for my attention.

Flyattractor
I would rather you shut up and leave.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Flyattractor
I would rather you shut up and leave. Look at my post count and stick to the topic.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
Films only for both. You conceded. You do not grasp much.

It seems to me you don't understand the meaning of Canon.

If you state the Star Wars verse you are referring to everything that is Canon to the movies.

Next time you should say in-films material only.

Either way the MCU (without IG or Dormammu) is just too weak to face the full might of the Star wars verse.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
It seems to me you don't understand the meaning of Canon.

If you state the Star Wars verse you are referring to everything that is Canon to the movies.

Next time you should say in-films material only.

Either way the MCU (without IG or Dormammu) is just too weak to face the full might of the Star wars verse. Films only. I am ignoring canon for the MCU as well. You want to eliminate beings and weapons while you get all yours. Very telling.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
Films only. I am ignoring canon for the MCU as well. You want to eliminate beings and weapons while you get all yours. Very telling.

I never said for you to ignore canon.

Except for universal weapons like the IS and super OP characters like Dormammu.

Besides isn't like I was gonna bring any super being either.

I was just gonna use them to quantify numbers.

But don't worry I know it's insane to try comparing the MCU standards with the Star Wars standards.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I never said for you to ignore canon.

Except for universal weapons like the IS and super OP characters like Dormammu.

Besides isn't like I was gonna bring any super being either.

I was just gonna use them to quantify numbers.

But don't worry I know it's insane to try comparing the MCU standards with the Star Wars standards. You can use any evidence corroborated in the films from the filmmakers.

Eon Blue

Psychotron
No, it doesn't.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
You can use any evidence corroborated in the films from the filmmakers.

Great, that means I can use all material Disney has validated or canon material.

I won't bring other characters but will use it to quantify the various factions and their weaponry.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Psychotron
No, it doesn't. Based on?

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Great, that means I can use all material Disney has validated or canon material.

I won't bring other characters but will use it to quantify the various factions and their weaponry. No, just as I cannot. Films only minus ig and Dormammu.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, just as I cannot. Films only minus ig and Dormammu.

Disney owns the right to the movies and decides what's canon and what's not.

I don't see the issue here.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Disney owns the right to the movies and decides what's canon and what's not.

I don't see the issue here. Not questioning that but if you cannot agree to the stips you backed out.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
Not questioning that but if you cannot agree to the stips you backed out.

Then that means I will have to infer the numbers.

Again, I was gonna use canon to bring official numbers to the table.

But I have no problem giving a guess on how many weapons galactic armies would have.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Then that means I will have to infer the numbers.

Again, I was gonna use canon to bring official numbers to the table.

But I have no problem giving a guess on how many weapons galactic armies would have. If it is film based on or off screen by the filmmakers it is fair game.

Josh_Alexander
Fine, I will publish the numbers here and if you agree then we'll do this.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Fine, I will publish the numbers here and if you agree then we'll do this. Cite your source. This will be an enormous undertaking if I am going to rep all of the MCU save the ig and Dormammu.

Josh_Alexander
Star Wars Galaxy:

- Size: Similar to the Milky Way
- Habitable planets/systems: Millions


Republic Armada:

Considerations: Controls more than half of the galaxy by the time of the Clone Wars. This means that it has under it's protection millions of systems and was to guard them against the Federation.

Infantry: 1 Billion clone troopers
Tanks (AT-TEs): 10 million
Special vehicles: 5 million (Artillery weaponry, AT SPs, etc.)

Star Ships (Venator class): 100,000 (consider that we saw thousands of them fighting over Curuscant).

Fighters: 200 million (A single Venator class could carry hundreds of ships).
Special aircraft: 100M

Federation:

Considerations: The Federation armies always outnumbered the Republic's as seen in the battle of Geonosis and Naboo.

Infantry:
- 10Billion common droids
- 10 Billion droids from various kinds.

Tanks: 25 million tanks
Special vehicles: 15million

Star Ships:
- 100,000 Providence class destroyers
- 50,000 Lukerhunk class destroyers

Fighters: 800 million
Special aircraft: 400 million


Empire

Considerations: No more clones in this era and less but better troops/weaponry.

Troopers: 100 Million
Tanks (AT AT's): 1M
Special vehicles: 500K

Star Destroyers (Imperial II class destroyers): 50,000
Dreadnoughts (Executor Class): 10

Fighters: 100 million
Other types: 150 million

Super Weapons: 2


First Order:

Considerations: Significantly smaller than the Empire

Troops: 5Million
Tanks (AT M6): 100,000
Special weapons: 5 siege canons (There were said to be more inside the Supremacy)

Star Destroyers (Resurgent Class): 1000
Dreadnoughts: 1
Mega Star Destroyer: 1

Fighters: 10Million

Super Weapons: 1

quanchi112
Where are the links for your citations?

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
Where are the links for your citations?

You said I could infer, since you didn't allow me to bring canon material to the subject.

The Republic had control over millions of worlds, so assuming there are 1000 clones in each, we are talking about 1Billion easily.

So, I just parted from that and infered for the other classes.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
You said I could infer, since you didn't allow me to bring canon material to the subject.

The Republic had control over millions of worlds, so assuming there are 1000 clones in each, we are talking about 1Billion easily.

So, I just parted from that and infered for the other classes. You have to include a movie or movie related source. Cite it.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
You have to include a movie or movie related source. Cite it.

Lol, I don't need to cite something that is SW common knowledge.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Lol, I don't need to cite something that is SW common knowledge. If you cannot prove it then it is worthless.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
If you cannot prove it then it is worthless.

Lol.

You either take my calculations or I bring canon sources.

Choice is on you.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Lol.

You either take my calculations or I bring canon sources.

Choice is on you. I told you if it is proven in the films or film related it is allowed if not sorry.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
I told you if it is proven in the films or film related it is allowed if not sorry.

Fine, canon it is then

Josh_Alexander
Galaxy size:

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source: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/The_galaxy#cite_note-VE-0

Original source: Star Wars: The Visual Encyclopedia


We know that the Republic by the time of the Civil War controled more than half of these.

Since the real number of total Clone Troopers is unknown and pretty debatable, and assuming that there are 1,000 clones per system, we are talking about more than 1Billion clones.

Will you take this number?

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Fine, canon it is then So you cannot do so.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
So you cannot do so.

The Star Wars Visual Encyclopedia is backed by Disney and ergo canon.

Are you arguing Disney doesn't hold the rights to the SW movies?

BrolyBlack
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Star Wars Galaxy:

- Size: Similar to the Milky Way
- Habitable planets/systems: Millions


Republic Armada:

Considerations: Controls more than half of the galaxy by the time of the Clone Wars. This means that it has under it's protection millions of systems and was to guard them against the Federation.

Infantry: 1 Billion clone troopers
Tanks (AT-TEs): 10 million
Special vehicles: 5 million (Artillery weaponry, AT SPs, etc.)

Star Ships (Venator class): 100,000 (consider that we saw thousands of them fighting over Curuscant).

Fighters: 200 million (A single Venator class could carry hundreds of ships).
Special aircraft: 100M

Federation:

Considerations: The Federation armies always outnumbered the Republic's as seen in the battle of Geonosis and Naboo.

Infantry:
- 10Billion common droids
- 10 Billion droids from various kinds.

Tanks: 25 million tanks
Special vehicles: 15million

Star Ships:
- 100,000 Providence class destroyers
- 50,000 Lukerhunk class destroyers

Fighters: 800 million
Special aircraft: 400 million


Empire

Considerations: No more clones in this era and less but better troops/weaponry.

Troopers: 100 Million
Tanks (AT AT's): 1M
Special vehicles: 500K

Star Destroyers (Imperial II class destroyers): 50,000
Dreadnoughts (Executor Class): 10

Fighters: 100 million
Other types: 150 million

Super Weapons: 2


First Order:

Considerations: Significantly smaller than the Empire

Troops: 5Million
Tanks (AT M6): 100,000
Special weapons: 5 siege canons (There were said to be more inside the Supremacy)

Star Destroyers (Resurgent Class): 1000
Dreadnoughts: 1
Mega Star Destroyer: 1

Fighters: 10Million

Super Weapons: 1

These are huge numbers

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
These are huge numbers

I actually think they are small considering we are talking about a 4 Galactic armies.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
The Star Wars Visual Encyclopedia is backed by Disney and ergo canon.

Are you arguing Disney doesn't hold the rights to the SW movies? Post the link so I can confirm.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
Post the link so I can confirm.

http://www.cinelinx.com/reviews/products/star-wars-the-visual-encyclopedia/

It was released after Rogue One.

Can we now agree to the Galaxy size and number of habitable systems?

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
http://www.cinelinx.com/reviews/products/star-wars-the-visual-encyclopedia/

It was released after Rogue One.

Can we now agree to the Galaxy size and number of habitable systems? I am putting this on pause but I will allow the visual dictionary for both to be used. You just opened up a lot of pain on your end. This will be highly enjoyable. I will purchase both and go scorched earth on your ass.

Psychotron
You're actually gonna pay real money for this shit? Lmao you're such a dork.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Psychotron
You're actually gonna pay real money for this shit? Lmao you're such a dork. Unlike you I am not poor. Your life must suck, loser.

Psychotron
Originally posted by quanchi112
Unlike you I am not poor. Your life must suck, loser.

Poor? I just bought a new car, while you're spending your mom's money on a Star Wars encyclopedia.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Psychotron
Poor? I just bought a new car, while you're spending your mom's money on a Star Wars encyclopedia. I bet a car you cannot afford like most other insecure idiots. Debt ridden.

Psychotron
Originally posted by quanchi112
I bet a car you cannot afford like most other insecure idiots. Debt ridden.

Nice projection on your part. I actually went to college unlike your hick ass and I have a good job.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Psychotron
Nice projection on your part. I actually went to college unlike your hick ass and I have a good job. I did too but I guarantee I make more money and have at the minimum 10,000 more than you do rn.

Psychotron
Originally posted by quanchi112
I did too but I guarantee I make more money and have at the minimum 10,000 more than you do rn.

Sure you do, dork.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Psychotron
Sure you do, dork. I would be willing to bet a temp ban on it. Ddm can verify for both of us. I know I have a lot more cash than you. I can smell the insecurity off you buying cars you cannot afford to mask your tiny dick.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
I am putting this on pause but I will allow the visual dictionary for both to be used. You just opened up a lot of pain on your end. This will be highly enjoyable. I will purchase both and go scorched earth on your ass.


What are you talking about!?

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Psychotron
You're actually gonna pay real money for this shit? Lmao you're such a dork.

I think Quan is beginning to realize how foolish his position is. .

SW just outnumbers 1M to 1. And SW clearly got the tech adv.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
What are you talking about!? Both visual dictionaries are allowed to clarify numbers.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
Both visual dictionaries are allowed to clarify numbers.

Fine, so you'll accept my numbers then?

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I think Quan is beginning to realize how foolish his position is. .

SW just outnumbers 1M to 1. And SW clearly got the tech adv. Most of Star Wars is fodder. Asgardians, Kree, Skrulls, Wakandans, Ultron and his minions, dark elves, frost giants, valkyries, outriders, chitauri, and I have not even named super beings and their abilities.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
Most of Star Wars is fodder. Asgardians, Kree, Skrulls, Wakandans, Ultron and his minions, dark elves, frost giants, valkyries, outriders, chitauri, and I have not even named super beings and their abilities.

So, are we doing this?

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
So, are we doing this? After the dvd release of Rise of Skywalker.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
After the dvd release of Rise of Skywalker.

Why?

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Why? So we have the end of the Skywalker saga vs the end of the storyline of the MCU.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
So we have the end of the Skywalker saga vs the end of the storyline of the MCU.

Hmmm...I find it unnecessary but if you feel like giving me more troops, fine.

So, my Empire, Republic and Federation armies are set then?

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Hmmm...I find it unnecessary but if you feel like giving me more troops, fine.

So, my Empire, Republic and Federation armies are set then? Anything from the films and the numbers corroborating from the films in the visual dictionary.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
Anything from the films and the numbers corroborating from the films in the visual dictionary.

The Visual Dic. doesn't talk about army numbers.

I used it to map the SW Galaxy, from where I could base my numbers.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
The Visual Dic. doesn't talk about army numbers.

I used it to map the SW Galaxy, from where I could base my numbers. Then that is not the same. You can use the dictionary but you need stated facts. Why are you so underhanded?

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
Then that is not the same. You can use the dictionary but you need stated facts. Why are you so underhanded?

I just proven that the Galaxy has millions of systems with life.

We know that the Republic needed clones to protect these.

A simple math will tell you that a 1000 clones per system gives you a total of Billions of clones.

All other numbers can be derived from that, as the Federation's army greatly outnumbered the clones. The Empire had less than the Republic and the FO even less.

No one knows the real numbers but the aproximation should be realistic considering the Galaxy's size.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I just proven that the Galaxy has millions of systems with life.

We know that the Republic needed clones to protect these.

A simple math will tell you that a 1000 clones per system gives you a total of Billions of clones.

All other numbers can be derived from that, as the Federation's army greatly outnumbered the clones. The Empire had less than the Republic and the FO even less.

No one knows the real numbers but the aproximation should be realistic considering the Galaxy's size. That is not official numbers it is you speculating. You need officially stated numbers.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
That is not official numbers it is you speculating. You need officially stated numbers.

As I said the real number is unknown.

When Obi Wan visited Camino back at the beginning of the war in Ep.2 he was told that 1.2 Million clone units were to be sent, where a unit is considered a batallion or platoon of clones.

Now, if we take a unit as the size garisson seen standing in Ep.2 (26x24 clones), then we are talking about 624 clones per unit. In that aspect, at the beginning of the war 778Million troops were ready.

However, the original request from Syfo Dias was of 3M units

Source: Guide to the Grand Army of the Republic (also canon).

On the other hand, during the Clone Wars, a bill was passed in the Republic's senate to increase the Clone Army to 5M units.


Conclusion: We are talking about billions of clones.

But for debating purposes I will leave it to a round 1B


Are we set then?

Psychotron
Originally posted by quanchi112
I would be willing to bet a temp ban on it. Ddm can verify for both of us. I know I have a lot more cash than you. I can smell the insecurity off you buying cars you cannot afford to mask your tiny dick.

And that's just more projection on your part.

Darth Thor
Originally posted by Psychotron
Poor? I just bought a new car, while you're spending your mom's money on a Star Wars encyclopedia.


laughing out loud

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