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This is the latest iteration of Garzilla and Voldi with Elder Wand (not resisting him) w/ all Horcruxes in place.

Voldy ever kill/stop something as big ,tall and powerful as Godzilla is

Can Avada Kadavra kill such a big target? Everything depends on that.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
doesn't it have limitations?

It doesn't.

It can be dodged, but Zilla is not exactly Spider-Man.

The only time it failed was when Harry's mom sacrificed her life for him. Ancient love magic and all that bullshit.

Without such shenanigans, it's supposed to kill anything it hits. That's why it's one of the Unforgivable Curses.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
It doesn't.

It can be dodged, but Zilla is not exactly Spider-Man.

The only time it failed was when Harry's mom sacrificed her life for him. Ancient love magic and all that bullshit.

Without such shenanigans, it's supposed to kill anything it hits. That's why it's one of the Unforgivable Curses.

could it get through Godzilla's fire

It's all guesswork.

It's magic, so it could. But we don't know for sure.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Can Avada Kadavra kill such a big target? Everything depends on that.

Well there are spells to enlarge objects, I wonder if there are spells to make them smaller? This is just speculative.

Based on feats alone Godzilla.

If there's any evidence that Avada Kadavra can work on all beings then Voldi. For all we know it works on people's soul and certain animals.

Esoteric spells like death spells or soul rips should require the character to show they have a resistance to it.

I'm not going to fall for no-limits bs, Godzilla eats the little shit.

Originally posted by Surtur
Esoteric spells like death spells or soul rips should require the character to show they have a resistance to it.

Without any feat of such spells being effective against a similar foe, falling under a no limit fallacy is inevitable.

We aren't at the point of saying anything can be killed by the AK.

Question is if a really large durable monster should be immune to death magic. I'd say no.

Originally posted by Surtur
We aren't at the point of saying anything can be killed by the AK.

Question is if a really large durable monster should be immune to death magic. I'd say no.

A wand is like a small hair for Godzilla, the beam of energy like a laser pointer.

Saying AK can kill Zilla like any other being tends to fallacy.

AK is more than physical, otherwise wizards could block it.

Originally posted by Surtur
AK is more than physical, otherwise wizards could block it.

It can be blocked, isn't like it can just trespass buildings and stuff

Zilla's best chance is try to counter it with his atomic breath, as soon as the fight starts.

Problem is, Voldemort doesn't need to charge his spell.

Voldemort takes this.

Godzilla gonna be one noseless piece of deep roast marshmellow.

Hail to the King Baby!!!!!!

https://media.giphy.com/media/GrlD58wWFqWn6/giphy.gif

Originally posted by Flyattractor
Godzilla gonna be one noseless piece of deep roast marshmellow.

Hail to the King Baby!!!!!!

https://media.giphy.com/media/GrlD58wWFqWn6/giphy.gif

Nah, more fairytales of yours.

Killing curse for the win.

Gods Don't DIE!

Killing curse one shots.

I am now picturing NoNoseMan sitting their waving his silly little stick and saying what ever sounds kinda cool in latin. Then He turns to the 4th wall and starts bragging about how He KILLED t he Big Monster with the Silly Curse and in the last panel The Big Monster falls on him and squashes him like a bug under a tank.


HAHAHAHAH!

Harry Potter is for Silly Little Children.

Dragons in HP are highly resistant if not outright immune to most magic. But the biggest dragon in existence is gone get one-shot by Avada Kedavra? Nah I dont think so.

If AK doesn't work then Voldemort is completely outmatched here, so we better assume it could work.

Spells get blocked by physical objects all the time in the HP verse, so the real question here is whether radiation could block it, because we have seen Godzilla being so hot that steel melts around him in real time. I wonder if little spells could get through that at all.

Other than that, Voldemort has a quicker draw as Legendary Goji needs to charge his atomic breath.

Originally posted by Eon Blue
Voldemort takes this. Brilliant move, quan.

If dragons and other large monsters are resistant to magic then Godzilla should be as well.

Voldemort turns Godzilla into a pet lizard.

IIRC, the killing curse doesn't work on everything, I don't think it works on dragons.

That's never mentioned. Dragons are resistant to magic, but whether they (or any other living being for that matter) have resistance to the killing curse is never said. Of course, the curse isn't all powerful and it certainly has limits. I'm inclined to think it wouldn't affect Godzilla.

Originally posted by ares834
That's never mentioned. Dragons are resistant to magic, but whether they (or any other living being for that matter) have resistance to the killing curse is never said. Of course, the curse isn't all powerful and it certainly has limits. I'm inclined to think it wouldn't affect Godzilla.

Correction: dragons were resistant to stunning magic. We hear that Krum's curse worked on the dragon just fine.

Stunning someone is a physical spell and it makes sense a durable creature would be resistant. Hagrid was resistant to stunning as well.

The AK was more than physical. It surely isn't all powerful, but question is based on what criteria should we grant immunity? "Is physically tough" is ehhh, can movie versions of Superman tank the AK?(I specified this cuz he has shown no magic weakness). If not, what is the minimum level of durability needed to survive it?

If you're basing it on size, what is the largest creature the AK could work on? Surely not merely a human.

Krum's curse is a specialized spell that attacks the target's eyes. The reason he used it is because dragon's eyes are vulnerable to magic unlike their hides. In fact, Sirius intended to recommend that Harry use the same spell for this very reason.

As for AK, I don't know what its limits are for certain only that it does have them. However, there stands to reason that certain magical creatures are in fact resistant to it. Their is only a single instance of a Chimera being defeated 1v1 by a wizard and apparently it takes over 100 wizards working together to defeat a Nundu. If something as relatively simple as an AK could kill these creatures, then this shouldn't be the case.

From what I recall he said the eyes were vulnerable, not vulnerable to magic.

I don't remember the exact wording Sirius used; but he clearly intended for Harry to cast a spell at the eyes and not shoot them with a gun. So he would be referring to their vulnerability to magic regardless of the exact wording.

Originally posted by ares834
I don't remember the exact wording Sirius used; but he clearly intended for Harry to cast a spell at the eyes and not shoot them with a gun. So he would be referring to their vulnerability to magic regardless of the exact wording.

The eyes being vulnerable doesn't mean it was cuz magic was specifically used.

Either way, there is zero evidence dragons are resistant to anything besides stunning spells.

By the same token, there is zero evidence that the AK would work on dragons.

Originally posted by Surtur
The eyes being vulnerable doesn't mean it was cuz magic was specifically used.

Either way, there is zero evidence dragons are resistant to anything besides stunning spells.

It's straight up mentioned that their hides are resistant to magic which makes them incredibly difficult to slay...

When it comes to esoteric magic like this we usually need a reason to grant immunity or resistance.

So you would be ok with saying the AK would kill someone on the Living Tribunal's power level?

Originally posted by Silent Master
So you would be ok with saying the AK would kill someone on the Living Tribunal's power level?

No this is why I said "usually". A being demonstrating cosmic level powers shouldn't need a specific feat to show they could tank it.

Godzilla should.

Can AK kill dragons? Like Gringott's dragon for instance.

I hope AK is a kick ass spell and not just Voldemort w/an AK-47 vs. Godzilla

Voldemort uses the Crucio curse. Godzilla writhes in pain.

And then Godzilla melts everything instantaneously in a 2-3 mile radius. Voldemort stops existing.

Godzilla accidentally steps on moldyshorts and doesn't even acknowledge it.

Interesting match-up. Godzilla might be too OP.

Originally posted by Eon Blue
Voldemort uses the Crucio curse. Godzilla writhes in pain.

Your joking right?

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Can AK kill dragons? Like Gringott's dragon for instance.

I'd say why not? It's said to be unblockable, that nothing has survived it.

We don't want to entertain a no limits fallacy, but I don't think we're doing that by saying that a very large and durable monster isn't immune to death magic that is more than physical.

Is Godzilla immune to soul rips too?

AK has been stopped by physical barriers, Godzilla's hide stops it. estahuh

Basically all this thread is how Vorty needs to use some Magical Macguffin to take down the Big G cause face it.. He doesn't have the power to do it himself.

Lame!

He can't do it period. Just imagining the fight is embarrassing for Voldemort.

Yeah if AK is stopped by a block of stone, do we really think it'll make it past Big G's mountainous scale that are tougher than anything on earth and the size of trucks?

Originally posted by KingD19
Yeah if AK is stopped by a block of stone, do we really think it'll make it past Big G's mountainous scale that are tougher than anything on earth and the size of trucks?

Originally posted by Eon Blue
Voldemort uses the Crucio curse. Godzilla writhes in pain.

Crucio has not a whole lot of battle feats in the movies to be honest, it doesn't have the range Godzilla has at all.

The battle is pretty dependant on starting distance.

Originally posted by KingD19
Yeah if AK is stopped by a block of stone, do we really think it'll make it past Big G's mountainous scale that are tougher than anything on earth and the size of trucks?

I would agree, but the issue here is that no wizarding shields can block it. Yet stone can stop it. It makes it seem like if it hits an inanimate object it can be stopped, yet it can pierce nearly all magical defenses.

I don't know how else to explain it.

We know wizarding shields can withstand a lot, we saw it in Crimes of Grindelwald when Credence attacked that wizard.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Prove Crucio can work on Giant creatures.

Josh is showing his stupidity again.

Crucio causes ships to writhe in pain. You fool, any of the three unforgivable curses would crush the overgrown lizard. He becomes a thrall to the Dark Lord doing his bidding.

Originally posted by Surtur
I would agree, but the issue here is that no wizarding shields can block it. Yet stone can stop it. It makes it seem like if it hits an inanimate object it can be stopped, yet it can pierce nearly all magical defenses.

I don't know how else to explain it.

We know wizarding shields can withstand a lot, we saw it in Crimes of Grindelwald when Credence attacked that wizard.

Well Godzilla doesn't have a wizard shield. He has scales above his skin that are several dozen feet thick and are tough enough to easily tank every form of attack our military has as of right now. Even without absorbing the actual nuclear energy from a nuke, the heat and force given off are astounding. And one of those went off against his back and he ignored it.

So are you saying you believe, even though the scales are far tougher than stone and far larger, than an Avada Kadvara will not only permeate the scales(even though it couldn't get past a chunk of marble) but kill him, despite him being several thousand times larger than even the largest creature in the HP universe? Giants and Dragons are the biggest thing in HP, with Giants maxing out at around 25 feet and dragons probably a little longer. Godzilla is how many hundred feet tall and how many tons?

Originally posted by Eon Blue
Josh is showing his stupidity again.

Crucio causes ships to writhe in pain. You fool, any of the three unforgivable curses would crush the overgrown lizard. He becomes a thrall to the Dark Lord doing his bidding.

Which ships!? Prove your points bot.

And godzilla is larger than any ship by far you fool.

Originally posted by KingD19
Well Godzilla doesn't have a wizard shield. He has scales above his skin that are several dozen feet thick and are tough enough to easily tank every form of attack our military has as of right now. Even without absorbing the actual nuclear energy from a nuke, the heat and force given off are astounding. And one of those went off against his back and he ignored it.

So are you saying you believe, even though the scales are far tougher than stone and far larger, than an Avada Kadvara will not only permeate the scales(even though it couldn't get past a chunk of marble) but kill him, despite him being several thousand times larger than even the largest creature in the HP universe? Giants and Dragons are the biggest thing in HP, with Giants maxing out at around 25 feet and dragons probably a little longer. Godzilla is how many hundred feet tall and how many tons?

I'm saying wizard shields that can take damage that would also have destroyed stone apparently can't stop the AK, so I think the reason stone statues stop it is because it was a non-living physical object that got hit by the blast.

Godzilla is alive, so I think it will work.

And if you want to say he tanks the AK, I can't think of any reason to say he's immune to being turned into a ferret. Ah but then Voldemort never technically did that, even though a lackey of his casually did it.

Voldemort slam dunks this battle.

Originally posted by Eon Blue
Voldemort slam dunks this battle.

Let's BZ on it then, since you are so confident over it.

Originally posted by KingD19
Well Godzilla doesn't have a wizard shield. He has scales above his skin that are several dozen feet thick and are tough enough to easily tank every form of attack our military has as of right now. Even without absorbing the actual nuclear energy from a nuke, the heat and force given off are astounding. And one of those went off against his back and he ignored it.

So are you saying you believe, even though the scales are far tougher than stone and far larger, than an Avada Kadvara will not only permeate the scales(even though it couldn't get past a chunk of marble) but kill him, despite him being several thousand times larger than even the largest creature in the HP universe? Giants and Dragons are the biggest thing in HP, with Giants maxing out at around 25 feet and dragons probably a little longer. Godzilla is how many hundred feet tall and how many tons?


393 feet tall and 99,071 tons. Could be wrong though.

His roar reaches just under 200 decibels and he gives off between 150-200 rads at any given moment according to monarchsciences.

Voldemort dies of radiation poisoning regardless of how the match ends

Honestly, you people are deluded if you think Dino Boi can defeat The Dark Lord.

Too much versatility. Josh is in denial.

Originally posted by Eon Blue
Honestly, you people are deluded if you think Dino Boi can defeat The Dark Lord.

Too much versatility. Josh is in denial.

Your stupidity once again publicly exposed. We all know you like shaming yourself, Quan.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Your stupidity once again publicly exposed. We all know you like shaming yourself, Quan.

Voldemort has a plethora of magical abilities that will easily make short work of Dino Boi. Maybe you should watch the movies, ignorant little cretin.

Voldemort makes Dino into a pet lizard.

Originally posted by Eon Blue
Voldemort has a plethora of magical abilities that will easily make short work of Dino Boi. Maybe you should watch the movies, ignorant little cretin.

Voldemort makes Dino into a pet lizard.

Poor Quan, his mental instability is trully kicking in.

Voldi was defeated by a baby, you are stupid. A single nuclear pulse is all Gojira needs.

Try watching the movies next time, sock.

Originally posted by Eon Blue
Voldemort has a plethora of magical abilities that will easily make short work of Dino Boi. Maybe you should watch the movies, ignorant little cretin.

Voldemort makes Dino into a pet lizard.

Your joking right?

He's not. Not at all.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Prove Crucio can work on Giant creatures.

Can crucio work on a flea?

What about the AK?

What about transmutation?

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Poor Quan, his mental instability is trully kicking in.

Voldi was defeated by a baby, you are stupid. A single nuclear pulse is all Gojira needs.

Try watching the movies next time, sock.

Why do this, why lie? Especially if you feel you have a solid argument. Voldemort was not defeated by a baby. I've called the guy stupid before(he is powerful, but stupid). However, he was defeated by plot device love magic.

Oh and if size is an issue, give me a cut off. What is the largest being the AK could kill? A human?

So are giants immune to the AK? Crucio? Transmutation?

Are the wizards just so woefully unaware of their world they are surrounded by beings who can survive the curse nobody could survive?

Originally posted by Surtur
Can crucio work on a flea?

What about the AK?

What about transmutation?

Yes, otherwise you fall in a no limit fallacy.

Originally posted by Surtur
Why do this, why lie? Especially if you feel you have a solid argument. Voldemort was not defeated by a baby. I've called the guy stupid before(he is powerful, but stupid). However, he was defeated by plot device love magic.

I was calling Eon stupid.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Yes, otherwise you fall in a no limit fallacy.



I was calling Eon stupid.

The cries about a "no limit fallacy" here are no less stupid than "he can tank it cuz he's big".

This isn't about no limits. We're dealing with a super strong, large creature, not a cosmic god with esoteric protections against magic.

If you're going to cite his size you absolutely need to give me an example of the largest sized entity you think this could work on. If you wanna cite limits, you need to give a limit. What is it?

Originally posted by Surtur
The cries about a "no limit fallacy" here are no less stupid than "he can tank it cuz he's big".

This isn't about no limits. We're dealing with a super strong, large creature, not a cosmic god with esoteric protections against magic.

If you're going to cite his size you absolutely need to give me an example of the largest sized entity you think this could work on. If you wanna cite limits, you need to give a limit. What is it?

Voldi has no feats of such proportions, unless you can prove AK, cruciatus or transmutation can work on such a behemoth your no-limit fallacy remain as such.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Voldi has no feats of such proportions, unless you can prove AK, cruciatus or transmutation can work on such a behemoth your no-limit fallacy remain as such.

If size is a factor why can the crucio work on a flea? I'm serious, why would a larger frame be harder to impact than a very small one with magic? We can clearly see why I can smash a flea with a hammer and not a lion, but that don't apply with magic.

What are you basing your claim on that the bigger something is the harder it is to kill with death magic or turn into a ferret?

Originally posted by Surtur
If size is a factor why can the crucio work on a flea? I'm serious, why would a larger frame be harder to impact than a very small one with magic? We can clearly see why I can smash a flea with a hammer and not a lion, but that don't apply with magic.

What are you basing your claim on that the bigger something is the harder it is to kill with death magic or turn into a ferret?


Dragons in the Harry Potter universe are feared creatures by the wizarding world. If a simple AK or transmutation could defeat a dragon then why bother mentioning them.

Godzilla is 20x bigger than any HP dragon.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Dragons in the Harry Potter universe are feared creatures by the wizarding world. If a simple AK or transmutation could defeat a dragon then why bother mentioning them.

Godzilla is 20x bigger than any HP dragon.

Dragons legit have wizards who dedicate their lives to protecting them.

Originally posted by Surtur
Dragons legit have wizards who dedicate their lives to protecting them.

I didn't say they were invulnerable.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I didn't say they were invulnerable.

Well the AK at least is forbidden magic. So why wouldn't they mention dragons, when it is apparently a death sentence to be caught using the AK?

Show me the largest/most durable thing AK was effectively used against.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Show me the largest/most durable thing AK was effectively used against.

And I will gladly: a human.

And then you will gladly say Hagrid can tank the AK, amirite?

Originally posted by Surtur
Well the AK at least is forbidden magic. So why wouldn't they mention dragons, when it is apparently a death sentence to be caught using the AK?

On humans not necessarily on any creature.

Originally posted by Surtur
And I will gladly: a human.

And then you will gladly say Hagrid can tank the AK, amirite? He's still half-human. But how much more durable than a human is he?

Oh so Hagrids momma could tank the AK, correct?

Come on now, you legit can't be consistent and say "no".

Say his momma tanks it. Type out those words lol.

I mean, *maybe* a giant would die but whatever. Do I need to tell you by how many orders of magnitude is Godzilla more durable than any HP giant? Lol

This is the dumbest thread on kmc

How do they beat monsters in that spinoff? The hard to find creatures or whatever. Maybe he can shove Godzilla into that suitcase or wrtf ever it was😂

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
This is the dumbest thread on kmc


Poor Emo Blew.

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Poor Emo Blew.

We know you have the mental capacity of a baby chimp, but please stay on topic, kangaroo rimmer.

Voldemort annihilates.

Why are you rocking a new account, quan?

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
I mean, *maybe* a giant would die but whatever. Do I need to tell you by how many orders of magnitude is Godzilla more durable than any HP giant? Lol

I understand this, but the point is that technically the largest thing we've seen it work on is a human. If we're going to say Godzillas size is a factor my question is just how big of a creature would we say the AK could kill.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
On humans not necessarily on any creature.

I forget if the movie shows it, but in the books it killed goblins too.

Originally posted by Eon Blue
We know you have the mental capacity of a baby chimp, but please stay on topic, kangaroo rimmer.

Voldemort annihilates.

Queon, I love it. A well deserved nickname.

Voldi loses Queon, cry all you will.

Originally posted by Surtur
I forget if the movie shows it, but in the books it killed goblins too.

In the books.

Originally posted by Surtur
I understand this, but the point is that technically the largest thing we've seen it work on is a human. If we're going to say Godzillas size is a factor my question is just how big of a creature would we say the AK could kill. Well it just feels wrong to say it could kill a giant lizard that eats nukes for breakfast just because it's deadly for humanoid, puny creatures. Don't you think? Lol

Voldemort wins. Magic kills, lads.

We already went through this in the LotR vs HP thread, Quan. It went nowhere for you, remember?

And wouldn't Voldemort simply being so close to Zilla be fatal? What with all the massive amount of rads and heat he's putting out?

He is around 150-200 rads at any given time. Voldemort would be vomiting up his testicles if he has any within a couple minutes.

I just pictured Voldemort puking his balls out through his nose slits.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Well it just feels wrong to say it could kill a giant lizard that eats nukes for breakfast just because it's deadly for humanoid, puny creatures. Don't you think? Lol

What about the imperio curse? I see no reason to grant this thing immunity to death magic, transmutation, and telepathy lol.

He couldn't win the fight using *only* the imperio curse, but he could use it to buy time to try to figure out a way to potentially kill it. Worst case scenario he can't kill it, but can keep from getting murderized.

Yet you're granting Voldenort immunity to radiation and thermal death from the massive heat and radiation Godzilla pulses out by the second.

Voldemort lacks feats to effect a creature this large and this strong methinks.

I have two problems with Voldemort when facing Godzilla:

1) He'd need to act at a very long range because just standing close to Godzilla is fatal. Most of the Harry Potter spells were never performed from a far distance.

2) There is no telling if the external skin of Godzilla would be considered more similar to an inanimate object or more similar to human skin given its girth (in the HP books the Dragon Scales provide defense against magic but it's not explicitly told in the movies). My inclination would be to ignore this because otherwise it isn't even a fight and Voldemort needs this edge to compete

Originally posted by Surtur
Worst case scenario he can't kill it, but can keep from getting murderized. This is actually the best he can hope for, but honestly don't see Tom pulling it off. Godzi is too phucking powerful.

Originally posted by KingD19
Yet you're granting Voldenort immunity to radiation and thermal death from the massive heat and radiation Godzilla pulses out by the second.

Honestly, I assumed the starting distance would be large enough as to avoid instant death lol. Though in my mind I was assuming he'd need some sort of magical healing afterwards cuz of the radiation.

Originally posted by Bentley
I have two problems with Voldemort when facing Godzilla:

1) He'd need to act at a very long range because just standing close to Godzilla is fatal. Most of the Harry Potter spells were never performed from a far distance.

A fair point, though if we were to say the AK works it could be done easily from quite far away, Godzilla is a large target.



It's not like I think he'd be vulnerable to all magic. I think he'd laugh off stunning spells just like dragons. I think fiendfyre wouldn't work either. I think it gets trickier if you talk about mental magic, death magic, and transmutation. There is a physical presence to the death curse, but the physical impact isn't what kills you.

Originally posted by Surtur
A fair point, though if we were to say the AK works it could be done easily from quite far away, Godzilla is a large target.



It's not like I think he'd be vulnerable to all magic. I think he'd laugh off stunning spells just like dragons. I think fiendfyre wouldn't work either. I think it gets trickier if you talk about mental magic, death magic, and transmutation. There is a physical presence to the death curse, but the physical impact isn't what kills you.

And I agree to this last part, we have no reason to assume Godzilla can not be hampered by mental magic or weird shenanigans. As long as Voldemort dies regardless I dont care.

Just saw the film. Godzilla mere presence make Voldy realizes his impotent.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
And I agree to this last part, we have no reason to assume Godzilla can not be hampered by mental magic or weird shenanigans. As long as Voldemort dies regardless I dont care.

It'll be funny if he dies cuz then we can all giggle cuz we know he ends up as a dead baby thing.

https://i.imgur.com/JkXAFHU.jpg

Voldemort turns big lizard boy into baby lizard boi.

Big difference.

Originally posted by Eon Blue
We know you have the mental capacity of a baby chimp, but please stay on topic, kangaroo rimmer.

Voldemort annihilates.

LOL

You create a thread, everyone replies with well thought out responses & all you can bring is "Voldemort slam dunks this battle."

Bravo!

Voldemort with a single kill curse.