Trumps record on Gay rights.

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Putinbot1
https://www.glaad.org/trump

Shocking

cdtm
But gay marriage IS a social experiment. And a radical one, given history and marriages status as a generally religious institution.




I know this is framed as coming down on Christian's, but do synagogue's historically support gay marriage? Do mosques?

BrolyBlack

Surtur
Loving how these threads are backfiring on PB eat

Putinbot1

BrolyBlack
Prove me wrong

Putinbot1
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Prove me wrong Deflection continues to an irrelevant issue about a minority.

BrolyBlack

dadudemon
Originally posted by Putinbot1
Deflected to a minority.

When did Muslims get a minority status?

Is any religion a majority religion? Perhaps atheism or agnosticism?

Surtur
There is a mere 1.8 billion muslims in the world tho...

Putinbot1
Originally posted by dadudemon
When did Muslims get a minority status?

Is any religion a majority religion? Perhaps atheism or agnosticism? Sorry, the US is a muslim majority nation now? Oh, the world is a Muslim majority world... Oh, Muslim majority nations are relevant to Trumps treatment of Gays... what?

Surtur
Can you name what rights Trump has taken away from the LGBT community?

SquallX

BrolyBlack

Surtur
I'm still wondering what rights Trump has taken away from the LGBT community lol.

And because I know at least one person will be dumb enough to go there: serving in the military is not a right.

Anyways, now...someone kindly list me all the rights Trump has removed from these folk. I'm expecting articles about policies where gays are banned from owning guns and voting, etc.

BrolyBlack

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Surtur
Can you name what rights Trump has taken away from the LGBT community? https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-homosexuality-lgbt-rights-gay-decriminalisation-campaign-administration-a8787446.html

Surtur
Originally posted by Putinbot1
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-homosexuality-lgbt-rights-gay-decriminalisation-campaign-administration-a8787446.html

Does not list a single right taken away lol. Even lists the military ban, but serving in the military isn't a right.

And since when is "June recognized as Pride month" a right?

I'm baffled, the only excuse is if you didn't read a word of that article before posting it.

BrolyBlack
Another dud, by PB

Didnt Trump appoint the first openly gay Ambassador to Germany as well?

darthgoober

Surtur

Robtard

Putinbot1

Surtur
Still waiting on the actual rights he's taken away.

Robtard
Originally posted by Putinbot1
Yup, the religious nuts.

Those are mainly the ones

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Robtard
Those are mainly the ones Horrible

Surtur
Awful

BrolyBlack

Lord Lucien
How can Trump go on record about Gay Rights? There are no gays in the Republican party.

BrolyBlack
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
How can Trump go on record about Gay Rights? There are no gays in the Republican party.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Grenell

Lord Lucien
Wikipedia? Really? How many Leftist editors do you think have been logged as rewriting that article?

BrolyBlack
Probably a lot but it at least provides a counter to your claimsmile

Lord Lucien
Typical leftist retard, twisting everything to suit their fantasy. Gays =/= Rightists.

Surtur
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Wikipedia? Really? How many Leftist editors do you think have been logged as rewriting that article?

It's good to be skeptical of some stuff on wiki. However, this guy is gay. He's the US Ambassador to Germany and even brought his boyfriend to his swearing in ceremony.

Lord Lucien
That actually makes a lot of sense then, Germany is a hotbed of Socialist homosexuality. It was smart of Trump to send him there and keep him out of the way.

MythLord
I don't think Trump is neccessarily homophobic or transphobic, but a lot of his buddies are and he just doesn't care about that(which is concearning, yes).

Lord Lucien
Originally posted by MythLord
I don't think Trump is neccessarily homophobic or transphobic, but a lot of his buddies are and he just doesn't care about that(which is concearning, yes). Name one person in Trump's administration that is a proven homophobe. Go ahead I'll wait.

SquallX

BrolyBlack
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Typical leftist retard, twisting everything to suit their fantasy. Gays =/= Rightists.

laughing out loud

MythLord
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Name one person in Trump's administration that is a proven homophobe. Go ahead I'll wait.
Mike Pence, who not only has a history of being a homophobe, but is one by Trump's own admission.

MythLord

dadudemon
Originally posted by Putinbot1
Sorry, the US is a muslim majority nation now? Oh, the world is a Muslim majority world... Oh, Muslim majority nations are relevant to Trumps treatment of Gays... what?

I know, right? Your point is confusing.

Perhaps you could do us a favor and explain Muslims, religion, and minority statuses point you're trying to make. Keep in mind, we are very stupid.

Surtur
Nobody has yet to provide a single right Trump has taken away from the LGBT community lol.

Putinbot1
Originally posted by dadudemon
I know, right? Your point is confusing.

Perhaps you could do us a favor and explain Muslims, religion, and minority statuses point you're trying to make. Keep in mind, we are very stupid. Minority doesn't have to be a status, it often is just a numerical qualifier for relative quantity.

For example Turkey has a Muslim majority and many minorities including the Kurds etc.

eThneoLgrRnae
Originally posted by Surtur
Nobody has yet to provide a single right Trump has taken away from the LGBT community lol.


...and they never will because he hasn't taken any away.

dadudemon
Originally posted by Putinbot1
Minority doesn't have to be a status, it often is just a numerical qualifier for relative quantity.

For example Turkey has a Muslim majority and many minorities including the Kurds etc.

Right. But your point is still not clear. With this last reply, you've made it to where it is quite clear that it is not okay to paint all US Christians with a broad brush because they clearly do not agree, majorly, on many policies (the reason this is so is because you've pointed out that Muslims vary in views). The infighting between Christians on public policy and religion is a well-known problem in the US and has been for over 200 years. It's part of our History.

Such as:

Anti-Mormon sentiments and hate crimes (which, along with Jews, was the only hate crime uptick in the 2017 hate crime report that was improperly represented)

Anti-Catholic sentiments - this one is a very big one and is probably the greatest source of religious based controversy in the US.

Anti-Biblical Literalists - obvious what this one is

Infighting between evangelicals

Fighting between evangelicals and all other Christian denominations - this one is probably the biggest issue. There is a new Netflix documentary that follows the secret Christian lobbyists that try to manipulate Capitol Hill. It's that bad.

So to point to all US Muslims, call them a minority, and pretend that "Christians" are a large cohesive majority, is just not correct. The most powerful 'religious' group in the US, right now, are atheists or the a-religious. Followed by the Christian Evangelicals. Some would say it is the Jews and they would be right but they get painted with too-broad a brush because there are a ton of secular Jews and get grouped in with the religion.

But the original idea being brought up is a good point to discuss. Some sects of Christians are okay with gay marriage. In fact, a majority are okay with gay marriage. That does not fit the original narrative put forth you indirectly hinted at, of course. Also, I can honestly state that a vast majority of Mormons support secular gay marriage but strongly oppose gay marriage in their churches and temples: the Pew Research does not include this distinction and it should.

https://www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/views-about-same-sex-marriage/

Surtur
Lol so...we're not gonna get a single right named that Trump has taken away from the LGBT community...are we?

Putinbot1
Originally posted by dadudemon
Right. But your point is still not clear. With this last reply, you've made it to where it is quite clear that it is not okay to paint all US Christians with a broad brush because they clearly do not agree, majorly, on many policies (the reason this is so is because you've pointed out that Muslims vary in views). The infighting between Christians on public policy and religion is a well-known problem in the US and has been for over 200 years. It's part of our History.

Such as:

Anti-Mormon sentiments and hate crimes (which, along with Jews, was the only hate crime uptick in the 2017 hate crime report that was improperly represented)

Anti-Catholic sentiments - this one is a very big one and is probably the greatest source of religious based controversy in the US.

Anti-Biblical Literalists - obvious what this one is

Infighting between evangelicals

Fighting between evangelicals and all other Christian denominations - this one is probably the biggest issue. There is a new Netflix documentary that follows the secret Christian lobbyists that try to manipulate Capitol Hill. It's that bad.

So to point to all US Muslims, call them a minority, and pretend that "Christians" are a large cohesive majority, is just not correct. The most powerful 'religious' group in the US, right now, are atheists or the a-religious. Followed by the Christian Evangelicals. Some would say it is the Jews and they would be right but they get painted with too-broad a brush because there are a ton of secular Jews and get grouped in with the religion.

But the original idea being brought up is a good point to discuss. Some sects of Christians are okay with gay marriage. In fact, a majority are okay with gay marriage. That does not fit the original narrative put forth you indirectly hinted at, of course. Also, I can honestly state that a vast majority of Mormons support secular gay marriage but strongly oppose gay marriage in their churches and temples: the Pew Research does not include this distinction and it should.

https://www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/views-about-same-sex-marriage/ I think if you didn't understand me DDM it's one of those translation things. A Brit would have understood straight away, some interesting points, I just got busy at work so will reply if I can today.

Adam_PoE
Originally posted by Surtur
Nobody has yet to provide a single right Trump has taken away from the LGBT community lol.

I am sorry, I thought this was the "Trump's Record on Gay Rights" thread, not the "Rights Trump Has Taken Away From the LGBT Community" thread.

If you bar for marginalization, oppression, and persecution is a constitutional right that one previously enjoyed being taken away, then you are not in a position to complain about the treatment of any conservative ever.

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
I am sorry, I thought this was the "Trump's Record on Gay Rights" thread, not the "Rights Trump Has Taken Away From the LGBT Community" thread.

If you bar for marginalization, oppression, and persecution is a constitutional right that one previously enjoyed being taken away, then you are not in a position to complain about the treatment of any conservative ever. This is something I generally just ignore Adam, but you're right when Surtur asks for evidence about something a thread isn't asking we should just shut him down like you did here. thumb up

Putinbot1
Originally posted by dadudemon
Right. But your point is still not clear. With this last reply, you've made it to where it is quite clear that it is not okay to paint all US Christians with a broad brush because they clearly do not agree, majorly, on many policies (the reason this is so is because you've pointed out that Muslims vary in views). The infighting between Christians on public policy and religion is a well-known problem in the US and has been for over 200 years. It's part of our History.

Such as:

Anti-Mormon sentiments and hate crimes (which, along with Jews, was the only hate crime uptick in the 2017 hate crime report that was improperly represented)

Anti-Catholic sentiments - this one is a very big one and is probably the greatest source of religious based controversy in the US.

Anti-Biblical Literalists - obvious what this one is

Infighting between evangelicals

Fighting between evangelicals and all other Christian denominations - this one is probably the biggest issue. There is a new Netflix documentary that follows the secret Christian lobbyists that try to manipulate Capitol Hill. It's that bad.

So to point to all US Muslims, call them a minority, and pretend that "Christians" are a large cohesive majority, is just not correct. The most powerful 'religious' group in the US, right now, are atheists or the a-religious. Followed by the Christian Evangelicals. Some would say it is the Jews and they would be right but they get painted with too-broad a brush because there are a ton of secular Jews and get grouped in with the religion.

But the original idea being brought up is a good point to discuss. Some sects of Christians are okay with gay marriage. In fact, a majority are okay with gay marriage. That does not fit the original narrative put forth you indirectly hinted at, of course. Also, I can honestly state that a vast majority of Mormons support secular gay marriage but strongly oppose gay marriage in their churches and temples: the Pew Research does not include this distinction and it should.

https://www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/views-about-same-sex-marriage/ Although Muslims are a minority not just in relation to Christian's but usually ethnically as well. This is one of the reason Islamaphobia is also a race issue, you have racial minorities and religious minorities overlapping. Now I know you could say what about the Armish, they are Dutch but they are also white North western Europeans. Trumps favourites.

Bentley
Originally posted by dadudemon
Right. But your point is still not clear. With this last reply, you've made it to where it is quite clear that it is not okay to paint all US Christians with a broad brush because they clearly do not agree, majorly, on many policies (the reason this is so is because you've pointed out that Muslims vary in views). The infighting between Christians on public policy and religion is a well-known problem in the US and has been for over 200 years. It's part of our History.

Such as:

Anti-Mormon sentiments and hate crimes (which, along with Jews, was the only hate crime uptick in the 2017 hate crime report that was improperly represented)

Anti-Catholic sentiments - this one is a very big one and is probably the greatest source of religious based controversy in the US.

Anti-Biblical Literalists - obvious what this one is

Infighting between evangelicals

Fighting between evangelicals and all other Christian denominations - this one is probably the biggest issue. There is a new Netflix documentary that follows the secret Christian lobbyists that try to manipulate Capitol Hill. It's that bad.

So to point to all US Muslims, call them a minority, and pretend that "Christians" are a large cohesive majority, is just not correct. The most powerful 'religious' group in the US, right now, are atheists or the a-religious. Followed by the Christian Evangelicals. Some would say it is the Jews and they would be right but they get painted with too-broad a brush because there are a ton of secular Jews and get grouped in with the religion.

But the original idea being brought up is a good point to discuss. Some sects of Christians are okay with gay marriage. In fact, a majority are okay with gay marriage. That does not fit the original narrative put forth you indirectly hinted at, of course. Also, I can honestly state that a vast majority of Mormons support secular gay marriage but strongly oppose gay marriage in their churches and temples: the Pew Research does not include this distinction and it should.

https://www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/views-about-same-sex-marriage/

This is an interesting topic of discussion that I'd like to learn more about.

... Quality I didn't expect from the thread title

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