Hawkman Vs Black Tarantula

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Senor Cage
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StiltmanFTW
BT destroys the entire Hawk family, Mungiforce will not protect them.

Senor Cage
laughing out loud

-K-M-
Originally posted by -K-M-
Hsssssss! Why have you summoned me?

cdtm
Depends which Black Tarantula. He has some less then stellar showings lately.



Although not near as bad as Gorgon's.

StiltmanFTW
Gorgon beat amped Shang, that's 10 times as impressive as beating Dany at his prime.

cdtm
That was then. Now he's beaten down by some woman Elektra wouldn't break a sweat against.

StiltmanFTW
Mariko is the most important character in Wolverine's mythos, she would wipe her ass with Superman's cape, while having She-Ra lick her feet clean.

-K-M-
Yeah Iron Fist two shotted him kicks. That showing was silly

leonidas
if you discount that showing and go with his best ones, bt should take this imo. be a tough fight though.

cdtm
Originally posted by -K-M-
Yeah Iron Fist two shotted him kicks. That showing was silly


He has a tough history to follow anyways. In Spidey, he's a leader of a major cartel, then Bru has him living out of some run down apartment. Then he's a common thug for hire hero hunter in P&I, when he's never been anything less then honorable and above henching (The Hand recruitment was all part of a plan under Bru. Is that something a thug for rent would do?)


His most consistent showings ironically happen in the non canon Spider-Girl series.

Senor Cage
Originally posted by -K-M-
Yeah Iron Fist two shotted him kicks. That showing was silly

Who would you go with? Hawkman with Nth armor is a ***** to put down. Can even fight without limbs.

-K-M-
How BT was first portrayed he would win

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by -K-M-
How BT was first portrayed he would win

Pretty much.

Senor Cage
Originally posted by -K-M-
How BT was first portrayed he would win

Is he that low now?

While HM with his gear and armor was tanking hits from the likes of Aquaman and Shaggy Man. Is BT that strong?

StiltmanFTW
Let's be 100% honest, for a second.

BT was a big badass... in his first appearances against Spider-Man. IF we take Spider-Man seriously, which we obviously don't have to, based on him getting buttraped by anyone with even a low degree of skill level.

Later? Nothing special. One-shotting DD... who had a flu at the time... wow?

Getting choked by Shadowland DD (pre-Beast mode)... wow?

Being in certain story arcs just because he was black... wow?

Teaming up with Nagan (LOL) and getting destroyed by Danny Rand , who didn't bother to use his super-powers... wow?


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Hawkmen, Hawkgirls and Hawkwomen all still suck, though. They are poorly written characters whose histories and abilities change with every month.

Senor Cage
Current Hawkman series is pretty awesome, though.

StiltmanFTW
Maybe.

But... you'd say the same thing even if it was complete trash... that's what you get paid for.

Senor Cage
Let's not pretend that Hawkman doesn't have beastly showings in his own right:

- Damaging Despero
- Messing up Black Adam's face
- Messing up Gog
- Owning Blockbuster with his Nth armor
- Getting amputated, and still fighting
- Bashing Sinestro

In fact, HM is probably a lot more durable than BT, especially if we take the Nth metal into account.

StiltmanFTW
Despero got "damaged" by Batman.

With Alan Scott's help?

Gog is not so tough when facing mainstream characters.

Oh, you mean that z-lister brick. He needed to go full battle mode for that idiot laughing out loud Normally it takes a Nightwing or a Robin to handle him.

Only once nth metal got wanked to boost his healing factor much further.

Sinestro with what ring?

Senor Cage
All with his mace, though. Recently, he was making huge craters in sentient planets, falling, surviving re-entry, without the Nth armor, and still continued to fight.

They really made Nth metal to be pretty uber.

StiltmanFTW
Worst mace in comics history, agreed.

It probably weights a ton and can't damage an average street leveler.

Mungi uses it for anal masturbation, aside from that it has no real purpose.

Senor Cage
Other than bashing BT over the head.

StiltmanFTW
He won't even connect.

BT is faster and more agile than Batman.

Flyattractor
Good Thing this is a Hawkman VS Thread then.

Senor Cage
HM can just stay in the air, while firing projectiles from his armor. BT won't connect, either.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Senor Cage
HM can just stay in the air, while firing projectiles from his armor. BT won't connect, either.

Why...?

Because Hawkman is known for dodging eye lasers? laughing

Gtfo, dc lover.

Senor Cage
GTFO. If you haven't read his recent stuff, then why bother debating? His mace for one is like Mjolnir. It comes back to him. BT won't even connect in the air, and HM only needs one blow.

StiltmanFTW
Eyebeams... no answer for that...

Senor Cage
Nth armor.

StiltmanFTW
As good as aluminium. Cool.

Senor Cage
DC aluminum>>Marvel's Adimantium

StiltmanFTW
Describes accurately how biased you are, yes.

Senor Cage
Funny coming from you. laughing out loud

cdtm
Eyebeams for the win.

Senor Cage
Nth Metal gun, FTW!

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cdtm
I'm just gonna say it:

Black Tarantula is as underrated as Gorgon is overrated.


Gorgon made his rep beating, who? Wolverine? Who HASN'T stomped Wolverine? Beating Logan up is like a right of passage.


Elektra is a bit better, but she's no Shang Chi.


And Shang Chi managed to knock Gorgon down to one knee. He lost, horribly, but the important thing is he HURT him.


While Spider-Man, who is literally strong enough to tear Shang in half if he wasn't such a drama queen about little things like crippling people for life (Like Sin Eater). Yes, Shang "held his own" with Spidey, but we all know Peter rarely uses his full strength. Any time he does, is the exception.



Black Tarantula was an exception. He threw everything he had at BT, and didn't even slow him down. We have no reason to doubt he gave his all, because he literally punched himself out, making him easy pickings.


And in terms of speed? He grabbed Peters ankle out of mid air, and slammed him repeatedly into a brick wall. Catching someone like Spider-Man, in mid air, with his agility and precog, is a TREMENDOUS speed feat. It beats dodging bullets by a mile, because Spidey treats walls of bullets like slow moving elderly people on crutch's.


"B-but, everyone hits peter! PIS."


Yeah, hits him. Never catch's him out of mid air while he's doing the spidey dance of death (Or "Max Spider, as Marvel vs Capcom calls it). Catching him by the ankle is a might different then Hulk landing a glancing blow, or some kung fu girl catching him flat footed. I don't believe that's EVER happened.



Strong enough to one shot Spidey, tanky enough to take punch's that put down mid end/upper bricks, fast enough to treat his best speed blitz like a slow walk.


No way Carter survive this without getting his wings ripped off.



The bottom line: SUPERMAN WINS, WITH EASE.

Senor Cage
I have no doubt that BT is a beast. I did see him get gutted by White Tiger and thrown in a dumpster, though. Lol

But HM is also underrated in his own right. He's more durable, has long range weapons, healing, versatile armor, which can create numerous weapons on the spot, centuries worth of fighting experience, superior senses (pre-flashpoint HM did sense a speedster), and has mobility and reach.

I'd say BT is stronger and faster reaction time, though. But HM has more advantages, imo.

cdtm
Cage, BT was following Master Izo's plan. Who knows if he was even "killed", or simply acting, given the goal was to be taken into the Hand, and allow his healing factor to undo the brain washing.


He's casually ignored being riddled with bullets through the chest, while weakened, and only complained if he was at full strength, he could dodge the bullets. He then walked off being engulfed in flames, from an exploding building. A sword wound should be nothing to him.

Senor Cage
Yeah, low feat.

Hawkman's Nth Metal has this fire attack, which he used once. Has a gun that slowed down there top tiers, can also withstand bullets, being impaled, etc... so, they're pretty close, durability wise.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by cdtm
The bottom line: SUPERMAN WINS, WITH EASE.

Take your meds or get locked up again.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by cdtm


And Shang Chi managed to knock Gorgon down to one knee. He lost, horribly, but the important thing is he HURT him.



He was amped. Hurray?

cdtm
Amped off his own chi. Stark tech wasn't doing anything by itself.

StiltmanFTW
It was.

And Gorgon still sodomized him.

Shang-level opponents are considered weaklings by the likes of Logan or Tony Masters, let alone someone like Gorgon.

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