Doomsday vs Thanos (Endgame)

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FrothByte
This is Thanos from Endgame, in full armor with sword, no IG. He fights Doomsday in an abandoned Gotham. Who wins?

SquallX
Doomsday rips him to shred.

quanchi112
Originally posted by SquallX
Doomsday rips him to shred. Thanos tears the limbs off him. Better fighter, better weapon, and far more durable.

Josh_Alexander
Thanos stomps.

Adam Grimes
Doomsday eats the eggplant.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Doomsday eats the eggplant. Absurd. WW level strength held him in check.

Impediment
Unless Thanos has Kryptonite, DD wins.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Impediment
Unless Thanos has Kryptonite, DD wins. Based on what?

Impediment
Based on the movie.

DD is Kryptonian and only Kryptonite killed him.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Impediment
Based on the movie.

DD is Kryptonian and only Kryptonite killed him. What does that have to do with anyone outside of that film? Do you think earths tech is better than a universal conqueror? We see WWs sword was capable of cleaving one of his limbs. If you penetrate him he dies.

Impediment

quanchi112

SquallX

quanchi112

NotAllThatEvil
Originally posted by quanchi112
He was impales. Without the impalement he would have survived. That is what killed him. Claiming he cannot be killed is trolling. Thanos easily kills him.

He died because the kryptonite turned off his healing, not just the stab

Juk3n
Decapitation counts as a ko?

The other point is a difficult one to prove.

The movie creates a clear picture that Kryptonite is simply the tool to create the vulnerability . But then it contradicts itself by allowing a kryptonian to have a limb severed without the aid of Kryptonite, by simply having someone very strong swing something very sharp.

What would have happened had she gone for the heart, or the head? What would happen to superman if Diana swung that same blow at him? Would he two-finger Goku/trunks it? Would she fail to severe because Supes has had much more time under the sun?

All speculation at this point. But one thing isn't, someone very strong can cut his head off if they swing something very sharp. Thanos wins here.

Adam Grimes
You'd have to prove Thanos is as strong or stronger than Diana.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
You'd have to prove Thanos is as strong or stronger than Diana.

What a joke.

Juk3n
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
You'd have to prove Thanos is as strong or stronger than Diana.

Sounds good friend. So, let's work together and establish a base line for that, over to you...

How strong is Diana?

ShadowFyre
She can lift a tank. So about Iron Man/War Machine level

Adam Grimes
BvS Diana with the lasso could restrain Doomsday who smacked around Superman.

Arachnid1
Doomsday stomps.

FrothByte
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
BvS Diana with the lasso could restrain Doomsday who smacked around Superman.

To be fair, she only restrained him for a second or two, not indefinitely. We also saw how easily Superman caught that lasso and overpowered WW's pull on it

Juk3n
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quanchi112
Originally posted by Arachnid1
Doomsday stomps. Based on what?

quanchi112
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
You'd have to prove Thanos is as strong or stronger than Diana. laughing out loud


Dishonesty. It is who you are.

quanchi112
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
He died because the kryptonite turned off his healing, not just the stab False since a non Knite weapon can cleave a limb. No limits fallacy. Thanos kills him, easily.

Robtard
Originally posted by FrothByte
This is Thanos from Endgame, in full armor with sword, no IG. He fights Doomsday in an abandoned Gotham. Who wins?

If Thanos' sword is able to cut off DD's limbs, then Thanos could feasible win with a few slices, arms and then decapitation.

If not, Thanos would put up a great fight but his every blow would only make DD stronger; combined with DD's healing-factor and it would be just a matter of time before DD crushes Thanos.

Juk3n
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
BvS Diana with the lasso could restrain Doomsday who smacked around Superman.

You're going to have to quantify this,

She restrained Doomsday with a magic weapon, for a few seconds and Doomsday punched Superman away.

Thats the claim. What's the conclusion?

Therefor she is as strong as..?

Adam Grimes
Nah, you made the claim that since WW was able to cut a limb from DD, Thanos would be able to as well. It's on you to prove that.

Juk3n
Well, I guess, ok.

Like I said, let's work together to answer these questions.
Would you say Wonder Woman has demonstrated strength beyond that of Hulk or Thor?

Robtard
Was Wonder Woman's arm slice of DD solely a feat of raw strength or did the magic aspect of her magical sword have anything to do with it?

Juk3n
Originally posted by Robtard
Was Wonder Woman's arm slice of DD solely a feat of raw strength or did the magic aspect of her magical sword have anything to do with it?

Good question. I was under the impression that the sword being magic was a revealed red herring in her own movie. Reason being, for her entire life she had believed the Sword was 'the god killer' then it was revealed that no, its just a sword, its her that is the power.

Yall didn't get that from the story?

FrothByte
Originally posted by Robtard
Was Wonder Woman's arm slice of DD solely a feat of raw strength or did the magic aspect of her magical sword have anything to do with it?

Are we sure her sword was magical? It's not the same sword that she got from Theymyscira after all.

BruceSkywalker
Are we so sure Diana's sword had magical properties when she cut Doomsday, the reason I ask is because it isn't explicitly said her sword in BVS was magic and second, her sword in her own film and her BVS sword appeared to be different swords..

KingD19
They were different swords because Ares broke her original sword when it was revealed as Juk3n said that she was the Godkiller, nut the sword. So it was probably just another Themyasciran sword.

Robtard
@juke, FB an Brucie

Her first sword 'The God Killer' was indeed was just a placebo of sorts, until she came into her own powers, why Ares casually destroyed it.

'The Sword of Athena' which she wields in BvS is different and tbf, I'm assuming it's magical because the Amazon's have magical weapons (eg see her lasso) and this sword was durable enough to take both physical blows and energy attacks from DD.

edit: This** claims the sword is indeed magical like other Athenian weapons, being crafted by the god Hephaestus: https://dcextendeduniverse.fandom.com/wiki/Sword_of_Athena

**It sources an offical companion book to the film BvS as support

FrothByte
Originally posted by Robtard
@juke, FB an Brucie

Her first sword 'The God Killer' was indeed was just a placebo of sorts, until she came into her own powers, why Ares casually destroyed it.

'The Sword of Athena' which she wields in BvS is different and tbf, I'm assuming it's magical because the Amazon's have magical weapons (eg see her lasso) and this sword was durable enough to take both physical blows and energy attacks from DD.

edit: This** claims the sword is indeed magical like other Athenian weapons, being crafted by the god Hephaestus: https://dcextendeduniverse.fandom.com/wiki/Sword_of_Athena

**It sources an offical companion book to the film BvS as support

I don't remember what the rules were when it comes to using wiki pages and stuff in these forums... even those that claim to be canon to the movies.

Personally, I would hesitate to call it magical until such time that it actually has a feat that shows it being magical.

BrolyBlack
Thanos sword is getting over wanked. The reason it was hitting hard is because the person weilding it was really freakin strong.

quanchi112
At this point in time the magical weakness is not referenced but seeing as how Thanos sword was able to go toe to toe with stormbreaker I see no reason why it would not do more damage considering Thanos strength superiority over WW compounding the damage.

BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by Robtard
@juke, FB an Brucie

Her first sword 'The God Killer' was indeed was just a placebo of sorts, until she came into her own powers, why Ares casually destroyed it.

'The Sword of Athena' which she wields in BvS is different and tbf, I'm assuming it's magical because the Amazon's have magical weapons (eg see her lasso) and this sword was durable enough to take both physical blows and energy attacks from DD.

edit: This** claims the sword is indeed magical like other Athenian weapons, being crafted by the god Hephaestus: https://dcextendeduniverse.fandom.com/wiki/Sword_of_Athena

**It sources an offical companion book to the film BvS as support


thanks Rob, yea if we assume her sword is magic then I can see Doomsday beating Thanos, however if her sword was just a normal one then Thanos shouldn't have a problem cleaving up Doomsday

Robtard
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Thanos sword is getting over wanked. The reason it was hitting hard is because the person weilding it was really freakin strong.

It's made of material as (arguably more) durable than vibranium, as it chopped Cap's shield to pieces. Its wank factor is somewhat warranted.

Robtard
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
thanks Rob, yea if we assume her sword is magic then I can see Doomsday beating Thanos, however if her sword was just a normal one then Thanos shouldn't have a problem cleaving up Doomsday

Feel the same way, if we assume Thanos' sword can cut through DD, Thanos should be able to decapitate him rather easily, he's a far smarter and better fighter.

Darth Thor
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Thanos sword is getting over wanked. The reason it was hitting hard is because the person weilding it was really freakin strong.


Well according to the Russos it was likely made by Eitri, so Uru like Mjolnir and Stormbreaker.

BrolyBlack

Robtard
Okay...

Robtard
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Well according to the Russos it was likely made by Eitri, so Uru like Mjolnir and Stormbreaker.

That does make sense then. Though the Russo should know as fact, considering.

quanchi112

quanchi112
Originally posted by Robtard
That does make sense then. Though the Russo should know as fact, considering. Probably cutting room floor stuff where nothing official has been entered as canon in the films but in their minds it was not necessary to divulge the creation of the sword. Just the point it is a badass sword befitting of its master.

Darth Thor
Thanos is basically He-Man. As such I reckon he would cut up Doomsday in H2H.

Doomsday Heat Vision might prove troublesome though. As would his adaptation and healing powers.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Thanos is basically He-Man. As such I reckon he would cut up Doomsday in H2H.

Doomsday Heat Vision might prove troublesome though. As would his adaptation and healing powers. He can parry the hv easily. We see him parry Iron Mans amp blast with ease. I love how they say he is the best. I tried telling you. WW blocked the hv without issue.

BruceSkywalker
So taking into consideration that Thanos's sword was made of uru, he should be able to decap Doomsday

Senor Cage
Doomy.

carthage

gauntlet o doom
^ That's true. Nothing suggests this. It's just blatantly shown on screen.

quanchi112

Darth Thor
Originally posted by gauntlet o doom
^ That's true. Nothing suggests this. It's just blatantly shown on screen.


Lol

Darth Thor
Originally posted by quanchi112
He can parry the hv easily. We see him parry Iron Mans amp blast with ease.

They gave him time to react to that. Supermans comes from his eyes. He wont see it coming. Plus how long is he gonna soon his sword for lol


Originally posted by quanchi112
WW blocked the hv without issue.


Thanos isnt Wonder Woman.

John Murdoch
If Bleeding Edge Iron Man can make Thanos bleed, Doomsday is going to tear him to shreds.

Thanos could cause trouble if he can whack off some limbs, but any trauma Doomsday receives will only make him stronger until he simply overpowers the angry purple giant.

ONLY chance Thanos has is to eventually decap Doomsday, but I don't see it happening considering Doomsday's healing factor, power amping from taking in any kind of damage, ferocity, and superior strength, speed, and durability compared to Thanos.

KingD19
I dont see Doomsday getting around easily on spiked peg legs. As his only real adaptation seems to be growing more spikes.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Darth Thor
They gave him time to react to that. Supermans comes from his eyes. He wont see it coming. Plus how long is he gonna soon his sword for lol





Thanos isnt Wonder Woman. WW came out of nowhere. Batman was evading his attacks for a bit of time.

You are right Thanos is far more impressive in combat. Stronger, more durable, better weaponry, smarter, and his ability to adapt to whatever battle situation he is in some might say is the greatest in the universe.

quanchi112
Originally posted by John Murdoch
If Bleeding Edge Iron Man can make Thanos bleed, Doomsday is going to tear him to shreds.

Thanos could cause trouble if he can whack off some limbs, but any trauma Doomsday receives will only make him stronger until he simply overpowers the angry purple giant.

ONLY chance Thanos has is to eventually decap Doomsday, but I don't see it happening considering Doomsday's healing factor, power amping from taking in any kind of damage, ferocity, and superior strength, speed, and durability compared to Thanos. If WW can hack off a limb then Thanos is going to hack them at quite easily. Cut the head off. That is a death kill.

Seeing him bleed a drop of blood after a drawn out battle on Titan and later surviving impalement and the stones combined blast makes this a no brainer. Thanos can withstand those energy surges of him just fine since he can wield a combined gauntlet. We see what it did to Hulk and Tony Stark.

Darth Thor
Originally posted by quanchi112

You are right Thanos is far more impressive in combat. Stronger, more durable, better weaponry, smarter, and his ability to adapt to whatever battle situation he is in some might say is the greatest in the universe.


Yes he is all of that. But Wonder Woman is Faster.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yes he is all of that. But Wonder Woman is Faster. So? Steppenwolf had no issues with her and was not as fast. WW used no super speed against DD when she severed his limb.

Darth Thor
Originally posted by quanchi112
So? Steppenwolf had no issues with her and was not as fast. WW used no super speed against DD when she severed his limb.


We are talking about blocking HV here. That obviously requires speed.

Thanos also had plenty of time to react to the amped Iron Man blast.

He needs time to swing his sword. Diana only has to raise her arms. Diana also has faster reflexes. So your comparison is null and void.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Darth Thor
We are talking about blocking HV here. That obviously requires speed.

Thanos also had plenty of time to react to the amped Iron Man blast.

He needs time to swing his sword. Diana only has to raise her arms. Diana also has faster reflexes. So your comparison is null and void. No, it does not. We see Batman evade his attacks despite being slower. Thanos has to fight multiple opponents so despite multiple guys coming at him from different angles he was able to do so. Acting like DD can beat him with hv is silly and you know it.

Thanos swung his sword because he blocked multiple beans of energy whereas DD just emits a solid blast that occupies less space.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/c79f749ac20cb2978f1a88239f08a0b4/tenor.gif?itemid=14580020


He just needs to raise his sword. He does so at the onset of the fight to deflect an iron man blast. Later when Thor amps iron mans energy into a more powerful wider blast does he twirl his sword. You better bring your A game because you need to actually be aware of the details of these fights in a battlezone. You had better get ready. Prepare.

KingD19
Yeah Thanos can spin his sword so fast it's a helicopter blade that straight up deflects energy beams. He's gonna be just fine against heat vision.

quanchi112
Originally posted by KingD19
Yeah Thanos can spin his sword so fast it's a helicopter blade that straight up deflects energy beams. He's gonna be just fine against heat vision. He does not even need to spin it against the hv. We see him casually block an unamped smaller Iron Man blast that was smaller in size. The only reason he spun it was due to array of beams and greater area the amped blast covered.

Darth Thor
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it does not. We see Batman evade his attacks despite being slower. Thanos has to fight multiple opponents so despite multiple guys coming at him from different angles he was able to do so. Acting like DD can beat him with hv is silly and you know it.

Thanos swung his sword because he blocked multiple beans of energy whereas DD just emits a solid blast that occupies less space.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/c79f749ac20cb2978f1a88239f08a0b4/tenor.gif?itemid=14580020


He just needs to raise his sword. He does so at the onset of the fight to deflect an iron man blast. Later when Thor amps iron mans energy into a more powerful wider blast does he twirl his sword. You better bring your A game because you need to actually be aware of the details of these fights in a battlezone. You had better get ready. Prepare.



Well you didnt actually address Wonder Womans faster reflexes. And raising arms is easier than raising sword. And she is just faster than Thanos as well.

Batman was just swinging away and not going up to Doomsday taking him on in combat. Remember Wonder Woman saved him from the first blast after he crashed.

Those single beams of IM are much smaller in width so can be blocked more easily.

Dont worry about my A Game. Worry about yours. Given You will be fighting an uphill battle.

Darth Thor
Originally posted by KingD19
Yeah Thanos can spin his sword so fast it's a helicopter blade that straight up deflects energy beams. He's gonna be just fine against heat vision.


And hes gonna do that anytime Doomsday just looks at him and shoots? Unlikely dude. The HV will cause him issues. Doomsday can also leap multiple times faster and further. These will all be issues for Thanos.

But I agree close up Thanos will be chopping him up.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Well you didnt actually address Wonder Womans faster reflexes. And raising arms is easier than raising sword. And she is just faster than Thanos as well.

Batman was just swinging away and not going up to Doomsday taking him on in combat. Remember Wonder Woman saved him from the first blast after he crashed.

Those single beams of IM are much smaller in width so can be blocked more easily.

Dont worry about my A Game. Worry about yours. Given You will be fighting an uphill battle. She did not show super speed in successfully striking Doomsday. As I said Batman can react to him. He is an unskilled brute who showed no superspeed.


WW has to use both arms. Thanos has to raise one. You are seriously contending an energy blast is going to cause issue to the greatest warrior in the MCU.

Yes, he can still react but does not have the tech to deflect the blast so of course a human was in trouble in that setting. Batman lacks the strength and durability just as BW would not bum rush Doomsday for the same reasons provided.

WW blocked them. Now are you saying with his huge sword that covers a ****** surface area than her bracers he cannot deflect it?

You ignored Thanos casually blocking an iron man blast while taking on multiple foes and winning in place of DD not defeating any of them until Superman flew right into him and made himself vulnerable.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by John Murdoch
If Bleeding Edge Iron Man can make Thanos bleed, Doomsday is going to tear him to shreds.

Thanos could cause trouble if he can whack off some limbs, but any trauma Doomsday receives will only make him stronger until he simply overpowers the angry purple giant.

ONLY chance Thanos has is to eventually decap Doomsday, but I don't see it happening considering Doomsday's healing factor, power amping from taking in any kind of damage, ferocity, and superior strength, speed, and durability compared to Thanos.

Bleeding Edge Iron Man is one of the strongest suits and capable of great damage output. Thanos being "scratched" by MK50 suit isn't really a low feat, specially when you consider that the MK2 suit could destroy tanks with 0 effort and that the MK3 was going toe to toe with Thor.

Well that seems to me like a pretty non-limit fallacy. The fact that Doomsday has a great regeneration and can adapt to certain stuff doesn't mean he can adapt to everything.

Thanos' sword can definitely hurt him. DD growing bony protusions doesn't seem to me enough to endure blows from Thanos' IS.

Now, obviously DD is unkillable, therefore being killed shouldn't be a paramenter for victory when dealing with such a character. Therefore, I give Thanos the edge because DD getting decapitated should be considered a victory to me.

KingD19
He is definitely killable. Unless we think his neck hole just grows a sentient spike and he can keep fighting.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by KingD19
He is definitely killable. Unless we think his neck hole just grows a sentient spike and he can keep fighting.

Yeah, actually there's no proof that he can grow another head or is some sort of Ghidorah.

Robtard

KingD19
Originally posted by Robtard
Disagreed, it's easily as durable as vibranum, but it's clearly shown that it could be even more durable considering how it hacked Cap's shield to pieces.

Indeed. If durablities were similar, then both weapons would have shattered, or neither would have. He destroyed the shield and then kept using the sword for a good while longer before it got destroyed.

Darth Thor
Originally posted by quanchi112
She did not show super speed in successfully striking Doomsday. As I said Batman can react to him. He is an unskilled brute who showed no superspeed.


WW has to use both arms. Thanos has to raise one. You are seriously contending an energy blast is going to cause issue to the greatest warrior in the MCU.

Yes, he can still react but does not have the tech to deflect the blast so of course a human was in trouble in that setting. Batman lacks the strength and durability just as BW would not bum rush Doomsday for the same reasons provided.

WW blocked them. Now are you saying with his huge sword that covers a ****** surface area than her bracers he cannot deflect it?

You ignored Thanos casually blocking an iron man blast while taking on multiple foes and winning in place of DD not defeating any of them until Superman flew right into him and made himself vulnerable.


Save the nonsensical speed denial argument for our battlezone.

But tell me are you seriously arguing that just raising his sword is going to block this:

@ 2:50

https://youtu.be/UoHQckv5BN8

Look at the size of that beam. He would have to do his spinning sword trick, and for that he needs a bit of notice and reaction time, going by the one time he displayed it.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Save the nonsensical speed denial argument for our battlezone.

But tell me are you seriously arguing that just raising his sword is going to block this:

@ 2:50

https://youtu.be/UoHQckv5BN8

Look at the size of that beam. He would have to do his spinning sword trick, and for that he needs a bit of notice and reaction time, going by the one time he displayed it. Dude, the shield blocks it. The sword is much bigger than her small shield. If you seriously think Thanos would have a hard time with hv that WW and Superman warded off and were hit by without issue then you are lying to yourself.

No, since the spinning sword blocked multiple beams that were far wider than his blast. Thanos could be hit by it anyway without issue. This is one of the worst arguments I can recall hearing that a skillless brute is a problem for Thanos since he can shoot energy. Are you this delusional?

carthage
Thanos dies as usual

quanchi112
Originally posted by carthage
Thanos dies as usual He is more skilled and the sword hacks it to pieces.

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