Beto O'Rourke thinks Trumps attitude encourages these kids to kill.

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Putinbot1
El Paso: Beto O'Rourke blames 'racist' Trump for inflaming hatred

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/04/trump-is-a-racist-beto-orourke-links-presidents-rhetoric-to-el-paso-shooting?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

SquallX

TempAccount
Well that's too bad. Trump is here to stay so you better find something to do until election time. Get a life.

Surtur
Calling people racists and nazis for no reason might also encourage violence.

ares834
Clearly it's not "no reason" if they fly off the handle and start killing people left and right.

Surtur
Originally posted by ares834
Clearly it's not "no reason" if they fly off the handle and start killing people left and right.

I don't mean the killers. I mean the rhetoric against Trumpers in general. People have been attacked just for wearing a MAGA hat.

Maybe people should stop tossing around words like racist, nazi, and fascist so easily.

Surtur
Edit thing is f*cking up for me, so I'll add: Trump himself was also sent poison in the mail.

Now is the individual who did it solely responsible for that? Could we argue he was influenced by the rhetoric against Trump?

I personally wouldn't say that, but I would say we can't just hold one side responsible for their rhetoric and not the other. We had rhetoric about how republicans were gonna get tons of people killed cuz of what they'd do with healthcare and then some leftist shot at republicans at a baseball field.

dadudemon
Originally posted by Putinbot1
El Paso: Beto O'Rourke blames 'racist' Trump for inflaming hatred

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/04/trump-is-a-racist-beto-orourke-links-presidents-rhetoric-to-el-paso-shooting?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

I already knew Beto was a moron. Thanks for posting this so I could massage my confirmation bias with more facts. thumb up

Robtard
Originally posted by Putinbot1
El Paso: Beto O'Rourke blames 'racist' Trump for inflaming hatred

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/04/trump-is-a-racist-beto-orourke-links-presidents-rhetoric-to-el-paso-shooting?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

It's generally accepted that people in positions of power and influence need to watch what they say more carefully than people who are not, as words can have consequences.

Except for Trump of course, he's just the POTUS.

Surtur
That will never just apply to the POTUS though, it will either apply to all those in power or none. There is no third option smile

Robtard
Learn. To. Read.

Surtur
So you got nothing, gotcha smile

jaden_2.0
Trump: How do we stop these people getting into the country

Trump supporter: shoot them

Trump: smirks* only in the panhandle can you get away with that comment.

yMCkzCJHfcU

I'm sure that helps the situation.

SquallX

Surtur
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Trump: How do we stop these people getting into the country

Trump supporter: shoot them

Trump: smirks* only in the panhandle can you get away with that comment.

yMCkzCJHfcU

I'm sure that helps the situation.

It doesn't, neither side seems to help these situations.

Awful.

Robtard
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Trump: How do we stop these people getting into the country

Trump supporter: shoot them

Trump: smirks* only in the panhandle can you get away with that comment.

yMCkzCJHfcU

I'm sure that helps the situation.

Trump/Trumpers and their "jokes". What a card.

Mindship
Originally posted by Robtard
It's generally accepted that people in positions of power and influence need to watch what they say more carefully than people who are not, as words can have consequences. Agreed. It starts with our parents and siblings, then teachers, friends, entertainment and sports celebrities. I don't see the president as an exception.

Robtard
Originally posted by Mindship
Agreed. It starts with our parents and siblings, then teachers, friends, entertainment and sports celebrities. I don't see the president as an exception.

Bingo

dadudemon
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Trump: How do we stop these people getting into the country

Trump supporter: shoot them

Trump: smirks* only in the panhandle can you get away with that comment.

yMCkzCJHfcU

I'm sure that helps the situation.

He shook his head no and gave that look of disappointment. It's the same thing a dad does when his son tells his new wife to "calm down."

"You done f*cked up. You shouldn't have said that."

Surtur
Originally posted by Mindship
Agreed. It starts with our parents and siblings, then teachers, friends, entertainment and sports celebrities. I don't see the president as an exception.

Sometimes people act like he is, sometimes they act like his rhetoric is the only rhetoric that matters. That isn't the case.

Mr Master
Beto's a phukin idiot.

Trump 2020 baby!

Capitalism > Socialism ... all day, every day!

Phuk these identity politics driven, ethnic pandering, lying democrats running for destroyer of America.

Surtur
Oic

jaden_2.0
Originally posted by dadudemon
He shook his head no and gave that look of disappointment. It's the same thing a dad does when his son tells his new wife to "calm down."

"You done f*cked up. You shouldn't have said that."

But secretly thinks it's funny and the kid is right. That one?

Surtur
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
But secretly thinks it's funny and the kid is right. That one?

You think Trump wants to murder illegals who come here?

Mindship
Originally posted by Surtur
Sometimes people act like he is, sometimes they act like his rhetoric is the only rhetoric that matters. That isn't the case. His rhetoric is not the only one that matters, agreed. The shooters are still making choices: the planning, the traveling, then pulling the trigger. That's not Trump 'making them' do that. But IMO neither is it realistic to think his words (which he's responsible for) aren't having an influence.

Generally speaking: by one's choices, one may open the door to trouble. But Trouble still has to choose to walk through.

Surtur
Originally posted by Mindship
His rhetoric is not the only one that matters, agreed. The shooters are still making choices: the planning, the traveling, then pulling the trigger. That's not Trump 'making them' do that. But IMO neither is it realistic to think his words (which he's responsible for) aren't having an influence.

Generally speaking: by one's choices, one may open the door to trouble. But Trouble still has to choose to walk through.

I guess my point is when Trump gets sent poison in the mail(this happened) or antifa members try to storm an ICE center after dems have repeatedly invoked concentration camps and nazis we don't hear the same lectures about rhetoric from the media and the democrats.

Mindship
Originally posted by Surtur
I guess my point is when Trump gets sent poison in the mail(this happened) or antifa members try to storm an ICE center after dems have repeatedly invoked concentration camps and nazis we don't hear the same lectures about rhetoric from the media and the democrats. I can't entirely disagree with this. But I think this is because the media is ruled by profit, everything else is secondary, with Trump being top attraction.

Robtard
Originally posted by Mindship
His rhetoric is not the only one that matters, agreed. The shooters are still making choices: the planning, the traveling, then pulling the trigger. That's not Trump 'making them' do that. But IMO neither is it realistic to think his words (which he's responsible for) aren't having an influence.

Generally speaking: by one's choices, one may open the door to trouble. But Trouble still has to choose to walk through.

^Yep

TempAccount
^
Won't respond to inner-city violence.

Robtard
^ Is thread stalking again

TempAccount
lol it's not stalking if you're the only one bumping the threads. Do better

Surtur
Originally posted by Robtard
^Yep

What do you make of this valid point:

Originally posted by Surtur
I guess my point is when Trump gets sent poison in the mail(this happened) or antifa members try to storm an ICE center after dems have repeatedly invoked concentration camps and nazis we don't hear the same lectures about rhetoric from the media and the democrats.

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