Stabbing Rampage in Southern California leaves 4 dead

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TempAccount
https://news.yahoo.com/4-dead-2-wounded-southern-034639243.html

Suspect described as being very angry

What to make of this? And when will it stop!

Flyattractor
Back Ground Checks needed on Every Butter Knife Purchase.

dadudemon
Originally posted by TempAccount
https://news.yahoo.com/4-dead-2-wounded-southern-034639243.html

Suspect described as being very angry

What to make of this? And when will it stop!

I personally believe this is a continuation of Media Saturation of the mass murder events and this causes, verified with actual legit research multiple times, copycat scenarios.


The Media needs to be better regulated as their hysteria inducing coverage needs to be better regulated to save lives.

Flyattractor
Yeah. It would be nice if the Media would JUST DO ITS Job for once.

Never gonna happen tho.

TempAccount
I wanna hear Robtard's educated opinion on this

Flyattractor
Name Calling and Deflection are opinions now?

Surtur
I'm burning down a CVS if someone doesn't ban knives. Period.

Flyattractor
How long of a Waiting Perond and BackGround Check should we put on Matches?

Surtur
18 days.

And a 50 day background check for a car.

Flyattractor
What about Cigarette lighters? Should those be counted as Assault Weapons?

Surtur
Probably.

I could technically use a laser pointer to f*ck with an aircraft.

BrolyBlack
Was it a mugger stabbing people in the back of the head and not taking anything from his victims?

Putinbot1
Coming from one of the knife crime cities cities of the world and actually having been stabbed but not in the UK surprisingly. I would like to say stabbings will never be as easy to kill as shooting is.

Surtur
Ya a gun is better than a knife if only someone nearby was armed they could have maybe saved some of these people.

Robtard
Originally posted by Putinbot1
Coming from one of the knife crime cities cities of the world and actually having been stabbed but not in the UK surprisingly. I would like to say stabbings will never be as easy to kill as shooting us.

Bingo.

The knife issue is just a distraction; always has been. If knives were as deadly as guns, our military's main weapons would be knives.

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Surtur
Ya a gun is better than a knife if only someone nearby was armed they could have maybe saved some of these people. or he could have gone on a rampage himself. Do you have the figures to compare number of "heroes" who stopped murder crimes with number who committed?

eThneoLgrRnae
Originally posted by Surtur
Ya a gun is better than a knife if only someone nearby was armed they could have maybe saved some of these people.


"Bingo." thumb up

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Robtard
Bingo.

The knife issue is just a distraction; always has been. If knives were as deadly as guns, our military's main weapons would be knives. even up close the bayonet is only if you have no ammo.

Surtur
Originally posted by Putinbot1
or he could have gone on a rampage himself. Do you have the figures to compare number of "heroes" who stopped murder crimes with number who committed?

DGU's are hard to track. I can tell you that the number of verified DGU's per year surpasses the number of mass shootings.

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Surtur
DGU's are hard to track. I can tell you that the number of verified DGU's per year surpasses the number of mass shootings. I would like stats and body count for that tbh and let's keep it to all murders with a gun.

Robtard
Originally posted by Putinbot1
or he could have gone on a rampage himself. Do you have the figures to compare number of "heroes" who stopped murder crimes with number who committed?

Was the El Paso shooter stopped by an armed citizen? I've not heard. I know a hero citizen threw cans at him to distract him for a bit.

Also of note: Texas has some of the most relaxed gun laws in the US, obtaining guns, concealed-carry, open-carry.

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Robtard
Was the El Paso shooter stopped by an armed citizen? I've not heard. I know a hero citizen threw cans at him to distract him for a bit.

Also of note: Texas has some of the most relaxed gun laws in the US, obtaining guns, concealed-carry, open-carry. can you wear a six shooter in a holster in Texas?

BrolyBlack
Originally posted by Putinbot1
can you wear a six shooter in a holster in Texas?

Yes absolutely

Robtard
One has to wonder why there wasn't a line of cowboys shooting back at the shooter then.

Surtur
Let us not pretend like it matters. The left would just say "well it rarely happens" if a legit cowboy was there and prevented all these deaths via a gun.

BrolyBlack

Robtard
Originally posted by Surtur
Let us not pretend like it matters. The left would just say "well it rarely happens" if a legit cowboy was there and prevented all these deaths via a gun.
Whirly has already asked you for the data. The data will be what it is regardless of feelings. So post it; we will see.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
I would like stats and body count for that tbh and let's keep it to all murders with a gun.

Surtur
Lol rob you've already rejected the data I use cuz it doesn't fit your definition.

So not gonna play your games.

Now, if you'd like to accept that data and the methodology(as many dems do) let me know and I'll provide it.

Silent Master
The only study I found places it at between 500,000 and 3 million defensive gun uses per year

https://www.nap.edu/read/18319/chapter/3

jaden_2.0
The only way to stop a bad guy with a knife is Crocodile Dundee

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/EnergeticNiceArmyworm-size_restricted.gif

Surtur
Originally posted by Silent Master
The only study I found places it at between 500,000 and 3 million defensive gun uses per year

https://www.nap.edu/read/18319/chapter/3

There is a non-profit site called he gun violence archive. Democrats have used this place and it's data talking points.

The issue, apparently, is the site defines mass shootings not by deaths, but by those injured. So if someone shoots 6 people and they survive their injuries, that is a mass shooting. But since the FBI decided to apply the definition of "mass murder" to "mass shooting" people are using that to deflect from the stats.

To me, if you shoot more than 3 people it's a mass shooting no matter if they all live.

Robtard
500k-3mil is quite a stretch.

IMO, if armed civic minded citizens routinely stopped crimes, let alone taking down a mass murderer/shooting, the NRA and gun lobby would be plastering that data for all to see. eg if some armed citizen had taken down the shooter in El Paso, it'd be all over the news and rightfully so.

Putinbot1

BrolyBlack
Originally posted by Robtard
One has to wonder why there wasn't a line of cowboys shooting back at the shooter then.

Well El Paso is 80-90% Hispanic, there are not to many Hispanic cowboys out west.

Surtur
Originally posted by Robtard
500k-3mil is quite a stretch.

IMO, if armed civic minded citizens routinely stopped crimes, let alone taking down a mass murderer/shooting, the NRA and gun lobby would be plastering that data for all to see. eg if some armed citizen had taken down the shooter in El Paso, it'd be all over the news and rightfully so.

If a guy tries to rob someone and the other guy flashes a gun and the guy decides against it, that's a DGU. You don't have to even fire a shot for it to be a DGU.

And therein lies the problem, a lot of incidents like that won't be reported.

Silent Master
Originally posted by Robtard
500k-3mil is quite a stretch.

IMO, if armed civic minded citizens routinely stopped crimes, let alone taking down a mass murderer/shooting, the NRA and gun lobby would be plastering that data for all to see. eg if some armed citizen had taken down the shooter in El Paso, it'd be all over the news and rightfully so.

Do you have a study you believe is more accurate?

Robtard
Originally posted by Surtur
If a guy tries to rob someone and the other guy flashes a gun and the guy decides against it, that's a DGU. You don't have to even fire a shot for it to be a DGU.

And therein lies the problem, a lot of incidents like that won't be reported.

That's fair enough.

But when it comes to these mass murderer shootings, I don't recall the last one where a citizen took down the shooter. Do you? I recall the "good guy with a gun" angle really took traction in 2012 after Sandy Hook, but nothing seems to support that.

All this talk reminded me of this:

If you've not seen High or Highwater, you should, it's a good film. But in this scene the two brothers just robbed a bank and a caravan of armed citizens are chasing them down with the intent of bringing them to justice.

K7ZFJkWzBaE

Surtur
There was that church shooting in texas I think a year or two ago, a guy with a gun saved a few lives. The media didn't cover it much.

https://nypost.com/2017/11/10/texas-church-shooting-hero-doesnt-want-the-praise/

Robtard
Originally posted by Silent Master
Do you have a study you believe is more accurate?

I don't.

All these mass shootings and armed citizens not being the ones to stop the shooter, even in states that have very loose gun laws tends to tell me something different though.

Putinbot1
http://imgur.com/a/v9NtHPb

http://imgur.com/a/beSn0dI

Robtard
Originally posted by Surtur
There was that church shooting in texas I think a year or two ago, a guy with a gun saved a few lives. The media didn't cover it much.

https://nypost.com/2017/11/10/texas-church-shooting-hero-doesnt-want-the-praise/


The Sutherland Springs church shooting, yeah, forgot about that one.

Robtard
Originally posted by Putinbot1
http://imgur.com/a/v9NtHPb

http://imgur.com/a/beSn0dI

My thoughts and prayers stick out tongue

Surtur
Did you take pics of a chubby homeless man with tats? Weird.

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Robtard
My thoughts and prayers stick out tongue it wasn't many stitches, bled like **** though. laughing

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Surtur
Did you take pics of a chubby homeless man with tats? Weird. You try so hard Surt. It's sweet. None of the easy comebacks to you needed.

Surtur
I didn't have to try hard, I just looked at the pics.

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Surtur
I didn't have to try hard, I just looked at the pics. you missed the easy one, I have a minor neckbeard at the moment. But that's two days without shaving.

Surtur
At least your tat isn't some japanese symbol or a tribal band.

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Surtur
At least your tat isn't some japanese symbol or a tribal band. It's actually a tat farang foreigners get if they fight in thailand, it's a white tiger. It's a tradition in Krabi, I think it"s still done now 25 years on. A tiger would not be my choice of tattoo but it's a momento.

dadudemon
Originally posted by Robtard
500k-3mil is quite a stretch.

These numbers were reviewed and vetted. Only anti-gun people say they are a stretch. It is likely more than 3 million and 500k is the lowest realistic estimate.

Putinbot1
Originally posted by dadudemon
These numbers were reviewed and vetted. Only anti-gun people say they are a stretch. It is likely more than 3 million and 500k is the lowest realistic estimate. Who paid for the study DDM

dadudemon
Originally posted by Putinbot1
Who paid for the study DDM

US Government who was interested in implementing stricter gun laws.

Robtard
Originally posted by Putinbot1
It's actually a tat farang foreigners get if they fight in thailand, it's a white tiger. It's a tradition in Krabi, I think it"s still done now 25 years on. A tiger would not be my choice of tattoo but it's a momento.

"Nuk Soo Kow! Nuk Soo Kow! Nuk Soo Kow!"

Robtard
Originally posted by dadudemon
These numbers were reviewed and vetted. Only anti-gun people say they are a stretch. It is likely more than 3 million and 500k is the lowest realistic estimate.

That was in regards to the wide berth of the number range.

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Robtard
"Nuk Soo Kow! Nuk Soo Kow! Nuk Soo Kow!" That film. Like enter the Dragon did for Kung Fu did for Muay Thai. Haha!

Putinbot1
Originally posted by dadudemon
US Government who was interested in implementing stricter gun laws. Would have been what I'd have done too. Interesting result. Seems counter intuitive... would like another study to corroborate.

Surtur
Originally posted by Putinbot1
It's actually a tat farang foreigners get if they fight in thailand, it's a white tiger. It's a tradition in Krabi, I think it"s still done now 25 years on. A tiger would not be my choice of tattoo but it's a momento.

You gotta get a tattoo of a tiger fighting a tiger shark.

Robtard
Originally posted by Putinbot1
That film. Like enter the Dragon did for Kung Fu did for Muay Thai. Haha!


That film is a guilty pleasure. Van Damme's shirt in the dance scene and the dance is worth the price of admission.

CE8XKeN0zk4

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Surtur
You gotta get a tattoo of a tiger fighting a tiger shark. I have two others one is on one ass cheek the other on the other. No pics ever likely to come.

dadudemon
Originally posted by Putinbot1
Would have been what I'd have done too. Interesting result. Seems counter intuitive... would like another study to corroborate.

Good thing you asked that as that is a smart "next step." Not kidding or being sarcastic.




Because that's exactly what happened: another study was done by another department and results were duplicated but with a bit more accuracy and higher DGUs.

One of the Star Wars kids and I argued through this topic and we captured all the data and studies around this in our argument. Darthskywalker0. The autistic kid who thought long posts meant he was right.

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Robtard
That film is a guilty pleasure. Van Damme's shirt in the dance scene and the dance is worth the price of admission.

CE8XKeN0zk4 forgotten how good that is. Ha!

dadudemon
Originally posted by Robtard
That film is a guilty pleasure. Van Damme's shirt in the dance scene and the dance is worth the price of admission.

CE8XKeN0zk4

Man, so many mosquitoes he keeps killing with those claps. Good thing his martial arts skills were supreme so he could squish those bloodsuckers right out of the sky.

Robtard
Originally posted by dadudemon
US Government who was interested in implementing stricter gun laws.

Reminds me of how the NRA flipped on their open-carry position in California because the Black Panthers started exercising their then legal right to do it.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/nra-california-open-carry-ban/

Putinbot1
Originally posted by dadudemon
Man, so many mosquitoes he keeps killing with those claps. Good thing his martial arts skills were supreme so he could squish those bloodsuckers right out of the sky. did you know he did gay porn?

Surtur
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F*ck your Van Damme shit. Go to like 3:30 and see a Mickey Rourke blow up himself with a tiger.

Robtard
Originally posted by Putinbot1
did you know he did gay porn?

Is that actually true?

Cos it seems like a rumor that started when he played a gay character in his first film. Was little more than a cameo.

nDV9JIuH4Fk

dadudemon
Originally posted by Robtard
Reminds me of how the NRA flipped on their open-carry position in California because the Black Panthers started exercising their then legal right to do it.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/nra-california-open-carry-ban/

Kind of a super shitty and racist thing to do of the NRA. They seem just like Democrats when they do this kind of thing.

Robtard
Oh you.

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Robtard
Is that actually true?

Cos it seems like a rumor that started when he played a gay character in his first film. Was little more than a cameo.

nDV9JIuH4Fk seems you're right. I always believed that, it's one of those things as a straight guy in the 80s and 90s you would never check. Shame really. I'd have liked it to be true.

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Surtur
SxyK1p9ivD8

F*ck your Van Damme shit. Go to like 3:30 and see a Mickey Rourke blow up himself with a tiger. Mickey was the man!

TempAccount
In Japan you can be jailed for having a knife blade on your person in public longer than 6cm.

Perhaps that is the end goal, eh Rob?

Putinbot1
Originally posted by TempAccount
In Japan you can be jailed for having a knife blade on your person in public longer than 6cm.

Perhaps that is the end goal, eh Rob? UK has strict knife laws too Kurk and ww have lots of killings.

cdtm
Originally posted by TempAccount
In Japan you can be jailed for having a knife blade on your person in public longer than 6cm.

Perhaps that is the end goal, eh Rob?

Because this is a deterrent to someone at the moment they choose to stab someone.


And the US has all kinds of stupid similar laws, like it being illegal to carry a baseball bat without a glove, or a crowbar. Legislators miss the obvious point that carrying these things around isn't the problem, using them to break someones legs are. The person who will never break your legs is no danger with a bat, and the person who will break your skull will not be stopped by a law saying not to carry a bat.

TempAccount
Originally posted by Putinbot1
UK has strict knife laws too Kurk and ww have lots of killings. Hmmm...I wonder then why Japan has the lowest number of murders of any major developed country when compared to the UK.

cdtm
Maybr because Japan's population are oppressed, repressed incels?


This IS the country when men literally marry anime characters drawn on paper.

TempAccount
Originally posted by cdtm
Maybr because Japan's population are oppressed, repressed incels?


This IS the country when men literally marry anime characters drawn on paper. I brought up that subject before; they literally do have the highest population of incels (close to half of people under 40 are virgins both men and women, and DO want a relationship).

Wouldn't having more incels warrant a higher rate of violence? Many posters on here equate the two.

samhain
Originally posted by TempAccount
Hmmm...I wonder then why Japan has the lowest number of murders of any major developed country when compared to the UK.


Why would you need to compare it to the UK when you're already holding it up to 'any major developed country'?

SquallX

NemeBro
He just knew dadudemon liked gay porn and figured he'd recommend some.

Surtur
Convicted Felon Arrested For Stabbing Rampage Was Only Free Because Of Liberal Policies

Intriguing!

SquallX

Flyattractor
Very True. And Leftists are actually Very Close to FASCISTS!

That is Very true.

Robtard
Originally posted by NemeBro
He just knew dadudemon liked gay porn and figured he'd recommend some.

Bingo

Flyattractor
Robbie is a Confirmed Homophobe....BINGO!

Putinbot1

dadudemon
Originally posted by NemeBro
He just knew dadudemon liked gay porn and figured he'd recommend some.

True, true. As an aspiring artist, I need reference material.

SquallX

Adam_PoE
Originally posted by NemeBro
He just knew dadudemon liked gay porn and figured he'd recommend some.

I would like to see dadudemon in some gay porn.

Putinbot1

Adam_PoE
Originally posted by Putinbot1
laughing out loud

Fun Fact: Mormon missionaries are the Catholic school girls of gay porn.

Flyattractor
Fun Fact. Adam dreams of Dressing up as a Catholic School Girl....which He should only do in San Francisco.

dadudemon
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Fun Fact: Mormon missionaries are the Catholic school girls of gay porn.

Adam_Poe is not very far off.


When I served my Mormon mission, there was a couple of stories going around that a couple of gay Mormons served a church mission and were caught banging each other.

Say what you want about Mormons but we are generally clean, healthy, fit, and attractive. If you're a closeted religious gay dude around 19-25, there's probably no better place to be than to be on a Mormon mission hanging out with other fit young men who might be closeted.

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