Thanos and Black Order vs. DC Trinity

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deft
DC Trinity from BvS

Who wins

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by deft
DC Trinity from BvS

Who wins

Thanos takes this.

BruceSkywalker
lets see bruce dies first coz he's useless...

diana and kal put up a fight but in the end there can be only one and it's thanos

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
lets see bruce dies first coz he's useless...

diana and kal put up a fight but in the end there can be only one and it's thanos

Without his speed blitzing, Superman wouldn't be able to defeat Thanos.

Maw and Dwarf could definitely put down Diana.

BrolyBlack

Adam Grimes
Diana mutilates Thanos.

Josh_Alexander

Eon Blue
Thanos solos with a frying pan and a bucket of rocks.

Adam Grimes
Thanos would get turned into a stew in that pot he had at the start of EG.

BrolyBlack
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Lol! Assuming a punch from Superman》Mk50 suit.

Based on what?

Indeed a punch from Superman >>>>>>>>>IronMan

Any other suggesting is flat out trolling.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Indeed a punch from Superman >>>>>>>>>IronMan

Any other suggesting is flat out trolling.

Based on what? Fanboyism?

Prove that a punch from Superman》IM.

Even if you do so. IM's punch didn't hurt Thanos, it was an edge of the suit that scratched him.

Prove that a punch from Superman can kill Thanos or stop trolling.

BrolyBlack

Adam Grimes
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Prove that a punch from Superman can kill Thanos or stop trolling. Please quote Broly saying *a* punch from Superman would kill Thanos?

Josh_Alexander

quanchi112
Thanos, easily.

BrolyBlack

Josh_Alexander

BrolyBlack
Prove Hulk was punching as strong as he did in the leviathan feat.

Stop trying to get other people to fight your battles for you.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Prove Hulk was punching as strong as he did in the leviathan feat.

Stop trying to get other people to fight your battles for you.

There is no reason to believe he wouldn't. He was angry and going all out against Thanos.

Or are you saying he was intending to be defeated?

BrolyBlack

Josh_Alexander

BrolyBlack

Josh_Alexander

BrolyBlack

Putinbot1
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Prove Hulk was punching as strong as he did in the leviathan feat.

Stop trying to get other people to fight your battles for you. Ant Man knocked out a Leviathian in his Giant Man form...

BrolyBlack
Yea ant man is was stronger than the hulk

Josh_Alexander

BrolyBlack

Josh_Alexander

BrolyBlack

Josh_Alexander

BrolyBlack

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
I did

Doesn't prove anything. Weight isn't the only factor playing in the equation.

Thanos' own force is also present.

The directos intended to show a stronger Thanos. As easy and simple as that.

So, stop pretending as if Hulk didn't do his best.

Surtur
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Without his speed blitzing, Superman wouldn't be able to defeat Thanos.

Maw and Dwarf could definitely put down Diana.

So you admit Superman beats Thanos.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Surtur
So you admit Superman beats Thanos.

I admit that Superman can beat Thanos with speedblitzing.

BrolyBlack
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Doesn't prove anything. Weight isn't the only factor playing in the equation.

Thanos' own force is also present.

The directos intended to show a stronger Thanos. As easy and simple as that.

So, stop pretending as if Hulk didn't do his best.

*directors

Ha so a surprise leviathan attack punch catching someone off guard who only weighs 985lbs cant be moved, but a leviathan weighing thousands of tons moving forward at 100's mph if not faster

You have conceded to trolling and not understand basic physics

Surtur
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I admit that Superman can beat Thanos with speedblitzing.

So why isn't Superman speedblitzing here?

BrolyBlack
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I admit that Superman can beat Thanos with speedblitzing.

Superman didn't need speed blitzing to snap Zod's neck, even when he didn't want to, that's more than enough to beat Thanos.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Superman didn't need speed blitzing to snap Zod's neck, even when he didn't want to, that's more than enough to beat Thanos.

Thanos is more durable and stronger than any kryptonian.

Surtur
No, plus he's stupid and purple.

BrolyBlack

BrolyBlack
*bleed

John Murdoch
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Lol! Assuming a punch from Superman》Mk50 suit.

Based on what?

Josh, you are high on something if you don't think that Supes packs more a punch than Iron Man in any iteration in the MCU.

Bruce is the obvious weak link on DC's side here, but Diana and Clark will take care of business. Supes also has a ranged attack (heat vision) that will hurt Thanos if not outright kill dudes like Maw, Glaive, and Proxima.


Black Order has Thanos, a TK'er in Maw, and the numbers advantage, but DC should come out on top.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by John Murdoch
Josh, you are high on something if you don't think that Supes packs more a punch than Iron Man in any iteration in the MCU.

Bruce is the obvious weak link on DC's side here, but Diana and Clark will take care of business. Supes also has a ranged attack (heat vision) that will hurt Thanos if not outright kill dudes like Maw, Glaive, and Proxima.


Black Order has Thanos, a TK'er in Maw, and the numbers advantage, but DC should come out on top.

Please list Superman punching feats.

BrolyBlack
^retard who hasn’t watched the films

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
^retard who hasn’t watched the films

Learn to type.

You are claiming that Supe's hits harder than the MK50 suit, then go ahead and prove your argument.

Otherwise, shut up and stop bringing fanbased fallacies.

WolvesofBabylon
Are we really arguing if Iron Man hits harder than Superman? WTF... Maybe we should argue if Captain America can outrun The Flash.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by WolvesofBabylon
Are we really arguing if Iron Man hits harder than Superman? WTF... Maybe we should argue if Captain America can outrun The Flash.

Feats>>>>Fanboyisms

The MK50 suit punches were having a similar or better effect on Thanos as Hulk's.

Based on that alone we can imply that his punches' strength is a rival to Superman's.

I know you guys in this board are massively biased by your love for the characters, but for love's sake, the MVF Golden Rule>>> your bias.

WolvesofBabylon
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Feats>>>>Fanboyisms

The MK50 suit punches were having a similar or better effect on Thanos as Hulk's.

Based on that alone we can imply that his punches' strength is a rival to Superman's.

I know you guys in this board are massively biased by your love for the characters, but for love's sake, the MVF Golden Rule>>> your bias.

Superman>>>>>Hulk

Ironman whose punches had little effect on Cull Obsidian? Ironman hit Thanos and rocked his head back a little bit and scratched Thanos... Superman and Zod were creating shockwaves with their punches. Knocking each other back long distances and landing uppercuts that sent them up skyscrapers. Same with Doomsday fight and Steppenwolf.


Hulk is living off of one punch that Antman for crying out loud was able to do. Do we think Antman(Giantman) is more powerful than Superman?

BrolyBlack

Josh_Alexander

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by WolvesofBabylon
Superman>>>>>Hulk

Ironman whose punches had little effect on Cull Obsidian? Ironman hit Thanos and rocked his head back a little bit and scratched Thanos... Superman and Zod were creating shockwaves with their punches. Knocking each other back long distances and landing uppercuts that sent them up skyscrapers. Same with Doomsday fight and Steppenwolf.


Hulk is living off of one punch that Antman for crying out loud was able to do. Do we think Antman(Giantman) is more powerful than Superman?

Based on what!? What punching feats does Superman has to contest swaying Surtur?

WolvesofBabylon
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Based on what!? What punching feats does Superman has to contest swaying Surtur?

You mean when he ran and jumped at Surtur and hit him? His momentum plus force did that. Not just straight up punching power. You remember after that when Hulk was punching him and doing nothing to him and Surtur flicked him away like a fly?

Superman doing the same thing would easily be able to do that. Just in normal 1v1 combat he has shown far superior punching power than Hulk so I'm not sure why he couldnt replicate that feat.

Back to Ironman. You really believe Ironman hits harder than Superman because he scratched Thanos?

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by WolvesofBabylon
You mean when he ran and jumped at Surtur and hit him? His momentum plus force did that. Not just straight up punching power. You remember after that when Hulk was punching him and doing nothing to him and Surtur flicked him away like a fly?

Superman doing the same thing would easily be able to do that. Just in normal 1v1 combat he has shown far superior punching power than Hulk so I'm not sure why he couldnt replicate that feat.

Back to Ironman. You really believe Ironman hits harder than Superman because he scratched Thanos?

Again, what punching feats does Superman has?

He has no punching feat similar to per say the Leviathan feat.

In that aspect, based on feats, Hulk wins.

Apples to apples, IM's punches had similar effects as Hulk's and Thor's.

The MK50 suit is a massively strong suit but underestimated.

Adam Grimes
Don't you mean getting swatted away like a fly?

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Don't you mean getting swatted away like a fly?

I didn't say that Surtur was hurt. But moving a mountain is still moving a mountain.

BrolyBlack
Superman casually destroyed a mountain

BrolyBlack
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Again, what punching feats does Superman has?

He has no punching feat similar to per say the Leviathan feat.

In that aspect, based on feats, Hulk wins.

Apples to apples, IM's punches had similar effects as Hulk's and Thor's.

The MK50 suit is a massively strong suit but underestimated.

Shut up you boss marvel fan cuck. Superman wins

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Superman casually destroyed a mountain

Penetrating a mountain<<Moving a mountain.

Oh, you suck at this.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Shut up you boss marvel fan cuck. Superman wins

Thanks for proving you are a fanboy.

Speed is all Superman and therefore the DCEU has.

Feats>>>your bias.

BrolyBlack
^lying bullshit artist

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
^lying bullshit artist

Incapable of debating. You are a child.

BrolyBlack
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I didn't say that Surtur was hurt. But moving a mountain is still moving a mountain.

Surtur is no way shape or form compared to a mountain idiot

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Surtur is no way shape or form compared to a mountain idiot

Concession accepted, you haven't watched Thor Ragnarok, as all other MCU movies.

You are a DCEU fanboy, that's evident.

BrolyBlack
So a mountain has two feet and wals around, moronlaughing out loud

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
So a mountain has two feet and wals around, moronlaughing out loud

Evidently you can't grasp figures of speech. No wonders why you thought that a bet was a figure of speech laughing out loud

Sizewise, Surtur is like a mountain. A lava mountain.

Adam Grimes
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I didn't say that Surtur was hurt. But moving a mountain is still moving a mountain. But Surtur isn't a mountain. And it didn't have anything to do with strength as demonstrated when Hulk's punches didn't even register a blip on Surtur's radar. thumb up

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
But Surtur isn't a mountain. And it didn't have anything to do with strength as demonstrated when Hulk's punches didn't even register a blip on Surtur's radar. thumb up

Lol, he is 500m tall. That's bigger than Godzilla!!! Have you watched Ragnarok?

Adam Grimes
Tbf I don't really know how big he is.

But scaling him off of Hulk being almost the size of his face, Surtur is nowhere near 1998 Zilla's size, let alone Legendary Godzilla's.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Tbf I don't really know how big he is.

But scaling him off of Hulk being almost the size of his face, Surtur is nowhere near 1998 Zilla's size, let alone Legendary Godzilla's.

...It's been widely accepted that Surtur in his biggest form, as seen on Asgard, is 500m tall.

That's 5x bigger than legendary's Godzilla...

P.S. 300 and something meters, sorry, that's about 3x as big as Godzilla.

BrolyBlack

Josh_Alexander

BrolyBlack

BrolyBlack

BrolyBlack
Actually hes shorter than many skyscraperslaughing out loud

Adam Grimes
It being 'widely accepted' doesn't cut it for me. I'll need some hard proof considering that compared to Hulk's size Surtur is small as shit.

Darth Thor
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Tbf I don't really know how big he is.

But scaling him off of Hulk being almost the size of his face, Surtur is nowhere near 1998 Zilla's size, let alone Legendary Godzilla's.


Tbf Hulk was about the size of Surturs eyebrow.


Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Again, what punching feats does Superman has?

He has no punching feat similar to per say the Leviathan feat.

In that aspect, based on feats, Hulk wins.

Apples to apples, IM's punches had similar effects as Hulk's and Thor's.

The MK50 suit is a massively strong suit but underestimated.


IMs punches had nowhere near the effect that Hulks did.

Josh you were comparing IM with Superman and have suddenly switched to comparing Hulk with Superman.

IM couldnt even take Cull Obsidian. So no, its not the same thing.

WolvesofBabylon
Well apparently to Josh Ironman hit Cull Obsidian with the same amount of power that Hulk hit the Leviathan with. So either Cull is a beast or Josh is clueless and cant admit to saying something ridiculous.

Adam Grimes
Going by his logic Cull is more durable than Thanos. Is that what you're saying, Josh?

BrolyBlack
He ran off like a ***** coward

Josh_Alexander

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Tbf Hulk was about the size of Surturs eyebrow.





IMs punches had nowhere near the effect that Hulks did.

Josh you were comparing IM with Superman and have suddenly switched to comparing Hulk with Superman.

IM couldnt even take Cull Obsidian. So no, its not the same thing.

Yes, I am, since both fought Thanos and were having similar results.

Ergo, that means that the MK50 suit can pack a punch as strong as Hulk's or nearly as strong.

I honestly don't get it why you guys underestimate the MK50 suit so much.

The MK3 suit was destroying tanks for fun.

The Hulkbuster armor was going toe to toe with Hulk!

If the MK50 suit was inferior to this older models, then why on hell would Tony, the smartest brain in the MCU, pick a weaker model?

Ohh, how much I love fallacies.

Since when does punching strenght/force has to do with laser combat? Because in no moment did Tony punch or even attempted to punch Cull Obsedian.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by WolvesofBabylon
Well apparently to Josh Ironman hit Cull Obsidian with the same amount of power that Hulk hit the Leviathan with. So either Cull is a beast or Josh is clueless and cant admit to saying something ridiculous.

Or, you haven't watched Infinity War and are here for your mere apreciation to Superman.

Watch the movie, you'll realize that Tony never punched Cull and was for some reason resorting to only his blasters.

PIS? Parhaps.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Going by his logic Cull is more durable than Thanos. Is that what you're saying, Josh?

What does durability has to do with punching strength? Go ahead and enlight us.

Darth Thor
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander


The Hulkbuster armor was going toe to toe with Hulk!

If the MK50 suit was inferior to this older models, then why on hell would Tony, the smartest brain in the MCU, pick a weaker model?



Urm because the MK50 is more compact and more versatile.

But to reverse your logic What would be the point in keeping Hulkbuster armour around if the MK50 was stronger?

You cant scale his armours like that because each one is different. In IM3 his armour is knocked to pieces by a car. Or was it a bus or train? Cant remember and really dont want to rewatch that film.

Anyway kindly post he scenes with timestamps where you believe Iron Mans punches had the exact same effect as Hulks. Because none of us recall that.

BrolyBlack
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Urm because the MK50 is more compact and more versatile.

But to reverse your logic What would be the point in keeping Hulkbuster armour around if the MK50 was stronger?

You cant scale his armours like that because each one is different. In IM3 his armour is knocked to pieces by a car. Or was it a bus or train? Cant remember and really dont want to rewatch that film.

Anyway kindly post he scenes with timestamps where you believe Iron Mans punches had the exact same effect as Hulks. Because none of us recall that.

When you are right, you are rightthumb up

BrolyBlack
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Everyone is laughing at the fact that you can't understand a metaphor.

You have the IQ of an ape laughing out loud

Everyone here is laughing at you, not a single person agrees with you on this thread. You are a flipping retard.

WolvesofBabylon
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Or, you haven't watched Infinity War and are here for your mere apreciation to Superman.

Watch the movie, you'll realize that Tony never punched Cull and was for some reason resorting to only his blasters.

PIS? Parhaps.



What does durability has to do with punching strength? Go ahead and enlight us.

When they first meet Cull charges and goes to hit Tony with his hammer and Tony blocks it with his shield and then Tony uppercuts Cull with little to no effect then hits him with his blasters.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Urm because the MK50 is more compact and more versatile.

But to reverse your logic What would be the point in keeping Hulkbuster armour around if the MK50 was stronger?

You cant scale his armours like that because each one is different. In IM3 his armour is knocked to pieces by a car. Or was it a bus or train? Cant remember and really dont want to rewatch that film.

Anyway kindly post he scenes with timestamps where you believe Iron Mans punches had the exact same effect as Hulks. Because none of us recall that.

Because he felt like? Because he keeps all his models arround as seen in IM3.

The MK42 from IM3 was a prototype. The MK50 isn't a prototype.

The fact that IM's punches made Thanos bleed means they were having a better effect than Hulk's.

Besides, I don't believe the Thanos' cut was due to a blunt impact, but maybe because Tony hit him with an edge of the suit.

Pressure under a small area》》》 bigger force.

Eon Blue

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Everyone here is laughing at you, not a single person agrees with you on this thread. You are a flipping retard.

You've presented 0 evidence for your argument, you're losing.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by WolvesofBabylon
When they first meet Cull charges and goes to hit Tony with his hammer and Tony blocks it with his shield and then Tony uppercuts Cull with little to no effect then hits him with his blasters.

rd7A14ZsdOg

please time stamp it.

Josh_Alexander

BrolyBlack
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Everyone is laughing at the fact that you can't understand a metaphor.

You have the IQ of an ape laughing out loud

Says the guy who couldn't understand what "$20 says " meanslaughing out loud

You are an utter buffoon!!!!laughing out loudlaughing out loud

WolvesofBabylon
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
rd7A14ZsdOg

please time stamp it.

P3ugPT0VD1w

This video shows it?

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by WolvesofBabylon
P3ugPT0VD1w

This video shows it?

Well, that was weird, the other video didn't had that scene.

Okay, I think it's pretty obvious, either way, please spot the diference between Iron Man's direct punch to Thanos and Iron Man's upper cut to Cull.

Here is the video. Minute 0:43.

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BrolyBlack
^clownshoes issues pitiful retort.

WolvesofBabylon
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Well, that was weird, the other video didn't had that scene.

Okay, I think it's pretty obvious, either way, please spot the diference between Iron Man's direct punch to Thanos and Iron Man's upper cut to Cull.

Here is the video. Minute 0:43.

osSJhXruEzU&t=47s

Well the punch vs Cull was a strsight up Punch and the one with Thanos was an aided punch.

If I go with your logic though you admit that fighters dont throw there hardest punch every time so its possible Hulk didnt throw his hardest punches vs Thanos?

And again watch Supermans fights his punches create shockwaves and send people flying. Ironman has shown Zero feats of that level. OMG he knocked Thanos head sideways. Captain America did the same thing

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by WolvesofBabylon
Well the punch vs Cull was a strsight up Punch and the one with Thanos was an aided punch.

If I go with your logic though you admit that fighters dont throw there hardest punch every time so its possible Hulk didnt throw his hardest punches vs Thanos?

And again watch Supermans fights his punches create shockwaves and send people flying. Ironman has shown Zero feats of that level. OMG he knocked Thanos head sideways. Captain America did the same thing

Exactly, they are different attacks. Clearly Tony was going all out and used some sort of propulsor to increase the force of impact.

Clearly, you can't say that Cull was impacted with the same strength.


Except Cap didn't even manage to piss Thanos... Iron Man clearly butthurted the Titan.

BrolyBlack
^pitiful arguement filled with lies

Eon Blue

Darth Thor
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Because he felt like? Because he keeps all his models arround as seen in IM3.

The MK42 from IM3 was a prototype. The MK50 isn't a prototype.

The fact that IM's punches made Thanos bleed means they were having a better effect than Hulk's.

Besides, I don't believe the Thanos' cut was due to a blunt impact, but maybe because Tony hit him with an edge of the suit.

Pressure under a small area》》》 bigger force.


He was using the prototype. Hence by your logic all his previous armours were physically weaker. So dont start making excuses, the second your own logic you expect us all to accept as fact, doesnt work in your favour.

So tell me Josh why wasnt IM in the Hulkbuster armour for the entirety of AOU? Clearly it was far too big and impractical for regular use. But clearly far far stronger than the armour he uses 99% of the time.

Btw You still havent posted the Hulk vs Thanos and IM vs Thanos videos and time stamped where they displayed the same striking power. Given no one else sees that, the least you could do is visually back up your claim.

relentless1
Batman could give Cull and and Proxima a run for their money, Widow and Cap did... the others can be speed blitzed by Diana and Kal easily enough

Darth Thor
Originally posted by relentless1
Batman could give Cull and and Proxima a run for their money, Widow and Cap did... the others can be speed blitzed by Diana and Kal easily enough


That wasnt Cull they Cap and Widow fought. They fought Corvus and Proxima.

Cull is fairly beastly. Above Iron Man at least.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Darth Thor
He was using the prototype. Hence by your logic all his previous armours were physically weaker. So dont start making excuses, the second your own logic you expect us all to accept as fact, doesnt work in your favour.

So tell me Josh why wasnt IM in the Hulkbuster armour for the entirety of AOU? Clearly it was far too big and impractical for regular use. But clearly far far stronger than the armour he uses 99% of the time.

Btw You still havent posted the Hulk vs Thanos and IM vs Thanos videos and time stamped where they displayed the same striking power. Given no one else sees that, the least you could do is visually back up your claim.

What type of strawman are you trying to pull out here? Obviously a prototype is a prototype, a suit that's not fully ready for combat. I never said that a prototype is better than it's predecessors.

Look, I can concede that the Hulkbuster armor is stronger than other suits. But the MK50 suit doesn't stay behind.

Again, the Nanosuit was having similar effects on Thanos as Hulk's punches.

osSJhXruEzU&t=80s


Thanos was being pushed back. We clearly saw the suit's gauntlets turning into some sort of hammer or propulsor, as to enhance the punch. Clearly not comparable to Cull Obsidian's ones.

BrolyBlack
Barley pushed back

Liar

Darth Thor
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
What type of strawman are you trying to pull out here? Obviously a prototype is a prototype, a suit that's not fully ready for combat. I never said that a prototype is better than it's predecessors.


Proof it wasn't combat ready? It was his latest suit he was using. It's not like he mass produced his other suits.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Look, I can concede that the Hulkbuster armor is stronger than other suits. But the MK50 suit doesn't stay behind.


There is zero reason to believe any of his other suits, including MK50 are as strong as Hulkbuster.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Again, the Nanosuit was having similar effects on Thanos as Hulk's punches.

osSJhXruEzU&t=80s


Thanos was being pushed back. We clearly saw the suit's gauntlets turning into some sort of hammer or propulsor, as to enhance the punch. Clearly not comparable to Cull Obsidian's ones.

Thanks for not actually time stamping anything. I assume you're referring to 0:29. Well like you said he had to convert his fists into those hammer type things first. So you were being a little disingenuous claiming it's simply his punches (and implying strength from that). Also that was a 2 handed hit (so presumably double the power) and to the chest (increased chances of pushing Thanos's whole body backwards).


I don't really see any comparable punch from Hulk here @0:30 onwards:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO5WPKT0690

kO5WPKT0690

But I will say every Single punch was pretty effective from Hulk. No single punch from IM was that effective. Ergo no reason to believe any single punch (even hammer punches) from IMs MK50 suit are comparable to a single punch from Hulk.

The double punch perhaps was. But again, it's converting his fists to weapons, and still using both hands (ergo double the power). And Even still not directly comparable as it was a blow to the chest.

Also notice at 0:32 on your video how IM MK50 is dropped to the floor in a single punch which IM even blocked. So There's clearly a massive difference between MK50 IM and Hulk when comparing them Physically. Whereas Hulkbuster and Hulk were far more physically comparable.

Your turn. And kindly time stamp your responses/evidences.

Darth Thor
^ Also notice Thanos is wearing his armour against Hulk. So with that added protection clearly there would be less chances of getting scratched on the head.

WolvesofBabylon
Josh needs to say out loud " Iron Man hits harder than Superman" just to hear how ridiculous that sounds

BrolyBlack
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
What type of strawman are you trying to pull out here? Obviously, a prototype is a prototype, a suit that's not fully ready for combat. I never said that a prototype is better than it's predecessors.

L

HAHAHA as if he went into combat with Thanos and his goons without testing his suitlaughing out loud

And as if this suit was not built on the foundations of his previous suits and this was the culmination of all his reserach and product development.

You childish lying goon!

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Proof it wasn't combat ready? It was his latest suit he was using. It's not like he mass produced his other suits.




There is zero reason to believe any of his other suits, including MK50 are as strong as Hulkbuster.



Thanks for not actually time stamping anything. I assume you're referring to 0:29. Well like you said he had to convert his fists into those hammer type things first. So you were being a little disingenuous claiming it's simply his punches (and implying strength from that). Also that was a 2 handed hit (so presumably double the power) and to the chest (increased chances of pushing Thanos's whole body backwards).


I don't really see any comparable punch from Hulk here @0:30 onwards:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO5WPKT0690

kO5WPKT0690

But I will say every Single punch was pretty effective from Hulk. No single punch from IM was that effective. Ergo no reason to believe any single punch (even hammer punches) from IMs MK50 suit are comparable to a single punch from Hulk.

The double punch perhaps was. But again, it's converting his fists to weapons, and still using both hands (ergo double the power). And Even still not directly comparable as it was a blow to the chest.

Also notice at 0:32 on your video how IM MK50 is dropped to the floor in a single punch which IM even blocked. So There's clearly a massive difference between MK50 IM and Hulk when comparing them Physically. Whereas Hulkbuster and Hulk were far more physically comparable.

Your turn. And kindly time stamp your responses/evidences. \

Stop it with the strawman. Obviously a prototype isn't combat ready! That's why it's called a prototype, as it is still in test phase.

MK 42 suit:


I didn't say it was stronger than the HB armor. But certainly overall, a more powerful armor than the HB.

I never said that Thanos being cut by IM was due to the punches strenght alone. Obviously there was heat, as the fist turned in some sort of propulsor hammer. I've also stated that an edge of the gauntlet/hammer could have impacted Thanos, exherting a massively high force under a small area.

I am comparing IM's single punch to the face to Hulk's punches, I don't think I need to timestamp that.

Did Hulk make Thanos bleed? Did Hulk pissed Thanos? Thanos wasn't even bothered!

Sure, I concede that Thanos was wearing armor, but there's really no evidence to suggest that Hulk's punches were having a superior effect to IM's single punch to the face.

I am not saying that the MK50 suit is stronger 'overall' than Hulk. We are only punching strength here between the two scenes.

Either way, nothing you've provided here suggests that Superman can replicate cutting Thanos with a punch in the face.

In any case, sticking to topic, Superman has o feat to suggest his attacks will have a better effect on Thanos than Thor's, Captain Marvel's, Worthy Cap, or Hulk's.

IM cuttiing Thanos obviously has other implications besides punching strength

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Surtur
So why isn't Superman speedblitzing here?

I realize I never answered this. Because this is BvS Superman, not JL Superman.

You have to stick to feats of the movie, else why bother stipulating BVS Superman?

BrolyBlack
BVS caught RPG at point blank range, he has plenty of speed, loser

BrolyBlack
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
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Stop it with the strawman. Obviously a prototype isn't combat ready! That's why it's called a prototype, as it is still in test phase.

MK 42 suit:


I didn't say it was stronger than the HB armor. But certainly overall, a more powerful armor than the HB.

I never said that Thanos being cut by IM was due to the punches strenght alone. Obviously there was heat, as the fist turned in some sort of propulsor hammer. I've also stated that an edge of the gauntlet/hammer could have impacted Thanos, exherting a massively high force under a small area.

I am comparing IM's single punch to the face to Hulk's punches, I don't think I need to timestamp that.

Did Hulk make Thanos bleed? Did Hulk pissed Thanos? Thanos wasn't even bothered!

Sure, I concede that Thanos was wearing armor, but there's really no evidence to suggest that Hulk's punches were having a superior effect to IM's single punch to the face.

I am not saying that the MK50 suit is stronger 'overall' than Hulk. We are only punching strength here between the two scenes.

Either way, nothing you've provided here suggests that Superman can replicate cutting Thanos with a punch in the face.

In any case, sticking to topic, Superman has o feat to suggest his attacks will have a better effect on Thanos than Thor's, Captain Marvel's, Worthy Cap, or Hulk's.

IM cuttiing Thanos obviously has other implications besides punching strength

Goal post moving, concession accepted.

quanchi112
Superman clearly hits harder than Iron Man but the one Iron Man attack was not the only attack that led to one drop of blood. Why would Thanos state all that for a drop of blood if it was just the one attack. That would make no sense.


The commentary confirms it was a cumulative process that led to it not just the one attack.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by WolvesofBabylon
Josh needs to say out loud " Iron Man hits harder than Superman" just to hear how ridiculous that sounds

Quote me saying in here that Superman hits harder than IM.

@DarthThor, @WolvesofBabylone, and @AllTheOtherSupermanFans.

What's worse, you guys fail to realize the MASSIVE fallacy you guys are pulling out here by sayint that Thanos' cut by IM was due to strength alone.

Because that's your whole premise here right? Since Superman is stronger than IM then he can cut Thanos.

Well here is the sad truth. Punching strength wasn't the only factor inbeded in the feat.

And why on Earth would Superman be able to harm Thanos if Thor, Hulk and Captain Marvel were incapable of such?

Because cleary Superman has no strength feats to rival the ones above

Josh_Alexander
In resume, Superman would misserably lose against Thanos without Speedblitzing.

Sorry DC fanboys, but speedblitzing is the only real advantage Superman has. Since this is pre-JL superman, he loses his only adv.

You are going to have to wait for better feats for him to rival beings like Captain Marvel and Thor.

Sorry not sorry.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
In resume, Superman would misserably lose against Thanos without Speedblitzing.

Sorry DC fanboys, but speedblitzing is the only real advantage Superman has. Since this is pre-JL superman, he loses his only adv.

You are going to have to wait for better feats for him to rival beings like Captain Marvel and Thor.

Sorry not sorry. Thanos would not lose even if he speedblitzed. This is a false myth. Quit perpetuating it.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos would not lose even if he speedblitzed. This is a false myth. Quit perpetuating it.

I am not saying he would necessarily lose 10/10, but that the odds are shifted.

Or have I said such?

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I am not saying he would necessarily lose 10/10, but that the odds are shifted.

Or have I said such? Thanos would never lose.

BrolyBlack
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Quote me saying in here that Superman hits harder than IM.

@DarthThor, @WolvesofBabylone, and @AllTheOtherSupermanFans.

What's worse, you guys fail to realize the MASSIVE fallacy you guys are pulling out here by sayint that Thanos' cut by IM was due to strength alone.

Because that's your whole premise here right? Since Superman is stronger than IM then he can cut Thanos.

Well here is the sad truth. Punching strength wasn't the only factor inbeded in the feat.

And why on Earth would Superman be able to harm Thanos if Thor, Hulk and Captain Marvel were incapable of such?

Because cleary Superman has no strength feats to rival the ones above

Red Lettered Lob, yappy dog at it again.

BrolyBlack
Originally posted by quanchi112
Superman clearly hits harder than Iron Man but the one Iron Man attack was not the only attack that led to one drop of blood.

Josh has trouble accepting basic realitylaughing out loudlaughing out loud

quanchi112
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Josh has trouble accepting basic realitylaughing out loudlaughing out loud He deserves no mercy.

BrolyBlack
Hope him mom smothers him

quanchi112
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Hope him mom smothers him I would help her if she asked.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Josh has trouble accepting basic realitylaughing out loudlaughing out loud

You clearly have trouble spotting fallacies.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Red Lettered Lob, yappy dog at it again.

You are ignorant of the Tribunal's ways.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
I would help her if she asked.

Broly is your mother, we all know it.

BrolyBlack
Originally posted by Clownshoes
You clearly have trouble spotting fallacies.



You are ignorant of the Tribunal's ways.

You are not the tribunal, you clown.

BrolyBlack
"Ironman punchs harder than Superman"

Josh_Alexanderclownsoes

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
"Ironman punchs harder than Superman"

Josh_Alexanderclownsoes

Quote me saying those words.

WolvesofBabylon
Well you did say

"Based on that alone we can imply that his punches' strength is a rival to Superman's"

You then went on to debate that Superman has no feats to put him on Hulks level and that Ironmans punches were doing the same damage to Thanos as Hulks implying Hulk=Ironman and since you say Hulk hits harder than Superman you imply Ironman does as well.

BrolyBlack
Originally posted by WolvesofBabylon
Well you did say

"Based on that alone we can imply that his punches' strength is a rival to Superman's"

You then went on to debate that Superman has no feats to put him on Hulks level and that Ironmans punches were doing the same damage to Thanos as Hulks implying Hulk=Ironman and since you say Hulk hits harder than Superman you imply Ironman does as well.

thumb up

BrolyBlack
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Lol! Assuming a punch from Superman》Mk50 suit.

Based on what?

Also this post implies Ironman > Superman

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by WolvesofBabylon
Well you did say

"Based on that alone we can imply that his punches' strength is a rival to Superman's"

You then went on to debate that Superman has no feats to put him on Hulks level and that Ironmans punches were doing the same damage to Thanos as Hulks implying Hulk=Ironman and since you say Hulk hits harder than Superman you imply Ironman does as well.

A rival doesn't mean superior. What I meant to say is that IM punches aren't far behind Superman's range.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Also this post implies Ironman > Superman

You are making a claim, I'm asking for evidence to support it.

You've presented none whatsoever.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Broly is your mother, we all know it. These wild tales change from post to post.

BrolyBlack
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
You are making a claim, I'm asking for evidence to support it.

You've presented none whatsoever.

I quoted your saying prove Superman>>>Ironman which means you thought otherwise you insufferable moron

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
I quoted your saying prove Superman>>>Ironman which means you thought otherwise you insufferable moron

A judge will ask you to prove you arguments, that doesn't mean he believes otherwise.

Stop trying to strawman.

BrolyBlack
Originally posted by Clown_Alexander
Lol! Assuming a punch from Superman》Mk50 suit.

Based on what?

You are not a judge, clown.

Why did you ask this if you thought Ironman>Superman

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
You are not a judge, clown.

Why did you ask this if you thought Ironman>Superman

I am a debater of this forum. I have the right to demand evidence and expose unproved arguments.

So, prove your arguments.

BrolyBlack
So you still think Ironman >>> Superman

Clown

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
So you still think Ironman >>> Superman

Clown

Strawmanning ain't gonna work on me pal.

I evidently am a superior debater than you.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I am a debater of this forum. I have the right to demand evidence and expose unproved arguments.

So, prove your arguments. You need to be consistent in your terrible arguments.

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