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Who wins?

Cap shit stomps, Josh is such a loser though, he will side with Palpatine because I command him to.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Cap shit stomps, Josh is such a loser though, he will side with Palpatine because I command him to.

Heart crush or lifts Cap in the air and kills him with lightsaber

Originally posted by h1a8
Heart crush or lifts Cap in the air and kills him with lightsaber Bssed off which examples? Do you watch the films?

Could go both ways, depending on how they choose to act.

Would ultimately give it to Sidious. He is faster, more agile, and TK would be serious problem for Cap.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Could go both ways, depending on how they choose to act.

Would ultimately give it to Sidious. He is faster, more agile, and TK would be serious problem for Cap. Cap is way more agile than Sidious. Stronger, more durable, better weaponry, and can kill him by a shield toss off his old head.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Could go both ways, depending on how they choose to act.

Would ultimately give it to Sidious. He is faster, more agile, and TK would be serious problem for Cap.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Cap shit stomps, Josh is such a loser though, he will side with Palpatine because I command him to.

As I commnaded you to

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
As I commnaded you to

Owned him.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
As I commnaded you to

Didn't saw that. So you are going to utterly derail and bait threads? Should I begin PMing Imp?

Clearly you are crossing the line now.

Originally posted by h1a8
Heart crush or lifts Cap in the air and kills him with lightsaber

Post examples of Palpatine doing so.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Didn't saw that. So you are going to utterly derail and bait threads? Should I begin PMing Imp?

Clearly you are crossing the line now. Did not see that not saw that. Awwww, you are dumb just like your ma and pa. Cap wins.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Didn't saw that. So you are going to utterly derail and bait threads? Should I begin PMing Imp?

Clearly you are crossing the line now.

*Clearly,

Didn't "see" that.

Go cry to momma

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
*Clearly,

Didn't "see" that.

Go cry to momma

Stick to topic or be reported. Fly has been banned. You've lost your smoke curtain.

Keep derailing threads and you'll follow Fly.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
*Clearly,

Didn't "see" that.

Go cry to momma

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Stick to topic or be reported. Fly has been banned. You've lost your smoke curtain.

Keep derailing threads and you'll follow Fly.

Backseat modding now?

*Stick to the topic

Fixed that for you.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
*Stick to the topic

Fixed that for you.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Backseat modding now?

*Stick to the topic

Fixed that for you.

You are clearly utterly derailing. Yes, I'll report such behaviour.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
You are clearly utterly derailing. Yes, I'll report such behaviour.

*You are clearly derailing

*behavior

I'm here all night to each you English.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
*You are clearly derailing

*behavior

I'm here all night to each you English.



https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/behaviour

You are the biggest hypocrite in this forum. See why no one takes you seriously?

Now, I'm done playing with you. Bye.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander


https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/behaviour

You are the biggest hypocrite in this forum. See why no one takes you seriously?

Now, I'm done playing with you. Bye. You are running from broly and I.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander


https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/behaviour

You are the biggest hypocrite in this forum. See why no one takes you seriously?

Now, I'm done playing with you. Bye.

This is why no one takes you seriously...

It is spelled behavior.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/behavior

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
This is why no one takes you seriously...

It is spelled behavior.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/behavior He needs to take notes. We really try to help the dumb foreigner.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
This is why no one takes you seriously...

It is spelled behavior.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/behavior

So British spell it wrong?

You are as stupid as it gets.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He needs to take notes. We really try to help the dumb foreigner.


You are so inferior. I bet you've never left your town.

It's not my fault that my knowledge over languages>>>yours.

Can you not read you fool?

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/behavior

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
So British spell it wrong?

You are as stupid as it gets.




You are so inferior. I bet you've never left your town.

It's not my fault that my knowledge over languages>>>yours. I have left my town but we know a town is too good for you. You grew up in a village. Nothing about you is greater than mine save your body weight and waist size.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Can you not read you fool?

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/behavior



You are as stupid as it gets. Your inferiority is clear.

Says the guy who cant spell "choke"

Originally posted by quanchi112
I have left my town but we know a town is too good for you. You grew up in a village. Nothing about you is greater than mine save your body weight and waist size.

Do you know why I make so many spelling mistakes?

It's common to make spelling errors in people who know various languages.

Now, if you excuse me, I'll go do something else. You clearly have never left your town.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Says the guy who cant spell "choke"

Concession accepted.

Cap wins, concession accepted

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Do you know why I make so many spelling mistakes?

It's common to make spelling errors in people who know various languages.

Now, if you excuse me, I'll go do something else. You clearly have never left your town. How many times will you announce you are leaving. Have a little pride in yourself and quit drawing out your cowardly exit.

Is josh one of those Star Wars retards reborn?

Originally posted by quanchi112
How many times will you announce you are leaving. Have a little pride in yourself and quit drawing out your cowardly exit.

I couldn't hold myself from further demolishing you.

Now, yes, I'm done with the games. Tell farewells to your mother in my behalf.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I couldn't hold myself from further demolishing you.

Now, yes, I'm done with the games. Tell farewells to your mother in my behalf.

*on my behalf

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I couldn't hold myself from further demolishing you.

Now, yes, I'm done with the games. Tell farewells to your mother in my behalf. So more embarrassing, hey guys I am leaving. I really mean it this time. No pride josh strikes again.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Bssed off which examples? Do you watch the films?

Are you suggesting that Palpatine doesn't have the capability of crushing Cap's heart or throat?

Are you suggesting that Palpatine doesn't have the capability of lifting Cap in the air and cutting him with the lightsaber?

^^this guy


Sheev never crushed anyone's heart or throat

oh and sheev never lifted anyone in the air and skiced them up

Originally posted by h1a8
Are you suggesting that Palpatine doesn't have the capability of crushing Cap's heart or throat?

Are you suggesting that Palpatine doesn't have the capability of lifting Cap in the air and cutting him with the lightsaber?

You're aware that we argue in character, correct?

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
^^this guy


Sheev never crushed anyone's heart or throat

oh and sheev never lifted anyone in the air and skiced them up

Originally posted by Silent Master
You're aware that we argue in character, correct?


I don't recall any force user actually wielding the lightsabers with TK in canon. I'll do some research.

However, throwing the lightsaber is a valid canon move.

Don't know if this is what h1 is referring to however.

Don't most of you guys believe Cap doesn't have Thor's durability? In that case, he is absolutely ****ed.

Originally posted by ares834
Don't most of you guys believe Cap doesn't have Thor's durability? In that case, he is absolutely ****ed.

Even if so, there is no indication that these guys can withstand Force Lightning or Force Choke.

Force Lightning isn't electricity.

We saw Thor being tased by the Sakaarian device. Force Lightning should be effective against these lads.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Post examples of Palpatine doing so.

He did it several times when he faught maul in the clone wars series, which I believe is still canon

Palpatine choked out 4 Mandolarians in the Clone Wars series. Which is canon to the movies.

Seriously? I was trying to see if h1 knew what he was talking about. Giving him part of the answer kind of defeats the purpose of the test.

Originally posted by h1a8
Are you suggesting that Palpatine doesn't have the capability of crushing Cap's heart or throat?

Are you suggesting that Palpatine doesn't have the capability of lifting Cap in the air and cutting him with the lightsaber? Saying he has never done so thus it is make believe. Watch the films again.

Originally posted by playa1258
Palpatine choked out 4 Mandolarians in the Clone Wars series. Which is canon to the movies. Unsuspecting humans whereas he was unable to defeat Windu of his own accord.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Unsuspecting humans whereas he was unable to defeat Windu of his own accord. he did destroy maul and his apprentice at the same time

Movies only

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
he did destroy maul and his apprentice at the same time

Canon material is canon material.

Movies only, read the rules.

Originally posted by h1a8
Are you suggesting that Palpatine doesn't have the capability of crushing Cap's heart or throat?

Are you suggesting that Palpatine doesn't have the capability of lifting Cap in the air and cutting him with the lightsaber? We argue in character based off the evidence. You can play fan fic until you are blue in the face.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
he did destroy maul and his apprentice at the same time He was more powerful than the both of them. Windu and yoda effectively disarmed him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He was more powerful than the both of them. Windu and yoda effectively disarmed him.

...yes? What's your point?

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
...yes? What's your point? He is not more powerful than Cap here nor do they possess the same skill set and abilities so a completely different matchup. Thanos besting Hulk is not the same as besting Thor since they both have a different skill set.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
...yes? What's your point?

None, as per usual.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
None, as per usual. Quit trolling. I responded to his post but since you do not seek a debate just log out.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
None, as per usual.

*None as usual

^propery way to say that

Originally posted by quanchi112
Quit trolling. I responded to his post but since you do not seek a debate just log out.

I don't longer respect you. Consider yesterday the last day I gave you the chance to debate.

From now on, you'll only be a form of entertainment. I'll look for you in the Off-Topic Circle Jerk.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
*None as usual

^propery way to say that

Samething goes for you, troll.

http://www.reverso.net/spell-checker/english-spelling-grammar/

/\ You are a joke.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I don't longer respect you. Consider yesterday the last day I gave you the chance to debate.

From now on, you'll only be a form of entertainment. I'll look for you in the Off-Topic Circle Jerk.

*I no longer respect you, consider yesterday the last time I give you the chance to debate.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Samething goes for you, troll.

http://www.reverso.net/spell-checker/english-spelling-grammar/

/\ You are a joke.

*Same thing

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I don't longer respect you. Consider yesterday the last day I gave you the chance to debate.

From now on, you'll only be a form of entertainment. I'll look for you in the Off-Topic Circle Jerk.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Samething goes for you, troll.

http://www.reverso.net/spell-checker/english-spelling-grammar/

/\ You are a joke.

*I no longer respect you, consider yesterday the last time I give you the chance to debate.

We both know you are not a woman of your word, you will not live up to this.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
*I no longer respect you, consider yesterday the last time I give you the chance to debate.

You are a clown. Rephrasing my words doesn't mean my sentence is wrong.

*gave (past tense).

From now on, consider yourself ignored for the normal threads. Take any quarrel to the Social Thread. Failure to do so will result in you being reported, punk.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I don't longer respect you. Consider yesterday the last day I gave you the chance to debate.

From now on, you'll only be a form of entertainment. I'll look for you in the Off-Topic Circle Jerk.

*I don't longer respect you

^That isn't the way you say that, if you were smart you would accept that.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
You are a clown. Rephrasing my words doesn't mean my sentence is wrong.

*gave (past tense).

From now on, consider yourself ignored for the normal threads. Take any quarrel to the Social Thread. Failure to do so will result in you being reported, punk.

Imp doesn't care about your reports, have you not noticed?

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I don't longer respect you. Consider yesterday the last day I gave you the chance to debate.

From now on, you'll only be a form of entertainment. I'll look for you in the Off-Topic Circle Jerk. So you are so visibly upset after grabbing your binky and sucking on it you are now offering what little manhood you have left. Get lost you pussy Cap wins. Stick to the topic I have no interest in your sissified feelings.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Imp doesn't care about your reports, have you not noticed? He just wants to derail the topic with his feelings.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
*You are clearly derailing

*behavior

I'm here all night to each you English.

"Eaching" all night...?

Sounds kinky.

Cap wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He is not more powerful than Cap here nor do they possess the same skill set and abilities so a completely different matchup. Thanos besting Hulk is not the same as besting Thor since they both have a different skill set.

Well that's the whole debate here. Isn't it? Let's look at cap's abilities

. His strongest his his martial arts and combat skill. Sidiios fought Maul and Savage together and won. And he also destroyed like half the jedi counsel before windu disarmed in. You could make the argument that he's not the greatest saber duelist in the galaxy, but he's definitely up there, so the skill margin isn't as wide as you think.

Cap has super strength. Its debatable if worthy cap has his base level of super strength of an upgraded asgardian level thanks to his new hammer, but at the end of the day, he a strong boy, but not as strong as thanos.. Sidious has Telekinesis to counter that and has been shown to use liberally in fights to rag doll his opponents. Thanks to the wanda vs thanos skirmish in end game, we know that telekinesis wrecks thanks levels of super strength, so the actual power increase in negligible.

Cap has lightning. Sidious has lightning. So they square.

Cap as a shield and hammer. Neither is indestructible so the debate becomes if they are strong enough to withstand light sabers. Well, the hammer anyway, sidious could catch the shield and fling it away from the fight.


It might be pretty close, but it looks like sidious has the edge to me.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You're aware that we argue in character, correct?

So it wouldnt be in character for Palpatine to lift Cap with TK or try to crush his insides with TK?

Those ideas are just too far fetched to think about?

Got cha. So Cap against Nerfed Palpatine.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Well that's the whole debate here. Isn't it? Let's look at cap's abilities

. His strongest his his martial arts and combat skill. Sidiios fought Maul and Savage together and won. And he also destroyed like half the jedi counsel before windu disarmed in. You could make the argument that he's not the greatest saber duelist in the galaxy, but he's definitely up there, so the skill margin isn't as wide as you think.

Cap has super strength. Its debatable if worthy cap has his base level of super strength of an upgraded asgardian level thanks to his new hammer, but at the end of the day, he a strong boy, but not as strong as thanos.. Sidious has Telekinesis to counter that and has been shown to use liberally in fights to rag doll his opponents. Thanks to the wanda vs thanos skirmish in end game, we know that telekinesis wrecks thanks levels of super strength, so the actual power increase in negligible.

Cap has lightning. Sidious has lightning. So they square.

Cap as a shield and hammer. Neither is indestructible so the debate becomes if they are strong enough to withstand light sabers. Well, the hammer anyway, sidious could catch the shield and fling it away from the fight.


It might be pretty close, but it looks like sidious has the edge to me.



Originally posted by h1a8
So it wouldnt be in character for Palpatine to lift Cap with TK or try to crush his insides with TK?

Those ideas are just too far fetched to think about?

Got cha. So Cap against Nerfed Palpatine.

Palpatine can definitely force squeeze.

Who has he forced "chocked" on Thanos level?

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Who has he forced "chocked" on Thanos level?

My penis

Josh isnt a real Thanos fan, otherwise he wouldnt let give a crusty old man like Sidous the win, then again he might like crusty old menuhuh

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Josh isnt a real Thanos fan, otherwise he wouldnt let give a crusty old man like Sidous the win, then again he might like crusty old menuhuh

He's a fan of you insulting him, I bet he's sat refreshing the page masturbating to your responses

Originally posted by steverules_2
He's a fan of you insulting him, I bet he's sat refreshing the page masturbating to your responses

Originally posted by steverules_2
He's a fan of you insulting him, I bet he's sat refreshing the page masturbating to your responses

You couldn't be more erroneous, Steve. I find your sense of humor hilarious though.

However I do find your profile gif to be arousing, if that makes your joke complete.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
You couldn't be more erroneous, Steve. I find your sense of humor hilarious though.

However I do find your profile gif to be arousing, if that makes your joke complete.

Erroneous you say, haven't heard that used ever. Are you trying to be clever? sly

It doesn't but it brings joy and that's fine by me

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Well that's the whole debate here. Isn't it? Let's look at cap's abilities

. His strongest his his martial arts and combat skill. Sidiios fought Maul and Savage together and won. And he also destroyed like half the jedi counsel before windu disarmed in. You could make the argument that he's not the greatest saber duelist in the galaxy, but he's definitely up there, so the skill margin isn't as wide as you think.
I know expect massive exaggerations from you. Yes he fought and defeated two opponents with the same powerset. Neither mall or oppress had any advantages over Palpatine. The difference here is that Captain America has many advantages over Palpatine that neither maul or Savage opress had. It would be like Captain America fighting to lesser versions of himself and beating them together. Completely irrelevant to this discussion at hand.

Palpatine defeated some of the weaker members of the council. When it was one on one against someone of the same skill level he was disarmed and defeated.


If he ragdolls him he can survive the assault since both Maul and savage all have. So based off the evidence Cap has been up against much more powerful opposition than Sidious. That is indisputable.

One does powers are completely different to have the Jedi or the sith incorporate telekinesis. Firstly she shoots read energy at her photos so it is not even remotely the same thing. Secondly you cannot swap abilities and or feats of differing characters from other universes. The debating is so desperate you want to lump the same feats to a character who has destroyed in infinity stone. Do you believe telekinesis from a Jedi or Sith would have the same result?


Wanda has feats far greater than anything any Jedi or Sith has ever done.

Another pathetic display on your part to equate the lightning. We go by feats. Caps display of Lightning is far greater than anything Palpatine has ever accomplished. He has the powers of Thor whereas Palpatine did not even kill Luke with his force lightning under a concentrated amount of over 20 seconds.



Lightsabers are often broken far easier and Sidious was disarmed twice. The evidence is overwhelmingly in my favor. Cap is stronger more durable has more experience is more powerful and has better weaponry.

Originally posted by h1a8
So it wouldnt be in character for Palpatine to lift Cap with TK or try to crush his insides with TK?

Those ideas are just too far fetched to think about?

Got cha. So Cap against Nerfed Palpatine. In character means something they have done not some fantasy you reenact in your trailer park.

Originally posted by steverules_2
Erroneous you say, haven't heard that used ever. Are you trying to be clever? sly

It doesn't but it brings joy and that's fine by me

Erroneous:



We bring joy in unexpected ways

Originally posted by steverules_2
He's a fan of you insulting him, I bet he's sat refreshing the page masturbating to your responses

Josh is really upset. He has ceased debating in all threads in a mass concession the likes I have not seen in years. He has admitted he focuses on grammar while his is one of the worst on the forum. I doubt josh will post that much on the forum after this latest meltdown.

So, it's set then as most of us agree, Sidious wins.

Another thread solved.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Erroneous:



We bring joy in unexpected ways He insults you and you applaud. Masochist. Cap wins.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
So, it's set then as most of us agree, Sidious wins.

Another thread solved. So another lie ignoring all the posters who stated Cap wins. You are an exposed masochistic troll. Leave.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Erroneous:



We bring joy in unexpected ways

I knew what it meant, just never heard anyone say it until you

Originally posted by steverules_2
I knew what it meant, just never heard anyone say it until you He really tries to sound intelligent by googling synonyms for wrong. Josh is pure cringe.

As much as I'm a fan of Rogers, he loses this one; as most of us agree.

/thread

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
As much as I'm a fan of Rogers, he loses this one; as most of all agree.

/thread Not based on the evidence. Cap has more experience, is stronger, is more durable, and has better weaponry. Cap wins, easily.

/Joshslife

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
As much as I'm a fan of Rogers, he loses this one; as most of us agree.

/thread

Yep.

It's a borderline stomp if Mjolnir doesn't provide Thor's durability.

Originally posted by ares834
Yep.

It's a borderline stomp if Mjolnir doesn't provide Thor's durability. Absurd. Mango Fett was not spite stomped by a Jedi even one as powerful as Kenobi or Windu. Your scripting is unfounded and relies on pure bias not how the characters fight on screen.

Cap wins.

Jango fett has a completely different set of equipment and abilities. You can't compare the two

Originally posted by ares834
Yep.

It's a borderline stomp if Mjolnir doesn't provide Thor's durability.

Definitely.

I don't think Sidious would kill him though. He would surely turn Steve to the Dark Side.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Jango fett has a completely different set of equipment and abilities. You can't compare the two Jango is worse off than Cap. Physically weaker, less experience, less powerful and not as durable. Point is tk is not some ability that is not able to be overcome even in its own native and weaker universe.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Absurd. Mango Fett was not spite stomped by a Jedi even one as powerful as Kenobi or Windu. Your scripting is unfounded and relies on pure bias not how the characters fight on screen.

"A Jedi uses the Force for knowledge and defense, never for attack."

And once it's 1v1, Windu stomps Jango.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Definitely.

I don't think Sidious would kill him though. He would surely turn Steve to the Dark Side. You believe he could turn Steve? Wow. You are one of the biggest idiots alive. Just like it worked on this guy.

https://66.media.tumblr.com/1de1e9a6a4821c2c1c9fb0993265eb74/tumblr_ok8z9vECpT1v4w5ico2_400.gif

Originally posted by ares834
"A Jedi uses the Force for knowledge and defense, never for attack."

And once it's 1v1, Windu stomps Jango. He was attacking Jango. Wtf. We see Luke implore force choke. Do you even Star Wars?

False, Jango had his equipment damaged by a beast. Context, kid.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He was attacking Jango. Wtf. We see Luke implore force choke. Do you even Star Wars?



Did you miss the point in RotJ that Luke has begun to fall to the dark side? Was the fact that he wears black and he has begun to become a cyborg like his father to subtle for you?

And Windu doesn't use the force offensively against Jango. There certainly are example of Jedi using the force offensively (Like Yoda in RotS), but it's a rare occurrence.

Originally posted by ares834


Did you miss the point in RotJ that Luke has begun to fall to the dark side? Was the fact that he wears black and he has begun to become a cyborg like his father to subtle for you?

And Windu doesn't use the force offensively against Jango. There certainly are example of Jedi using the force offensively (Like Yoda in RotS), but it's a rare occurrence. Luke never turned he used his abilities to defeat his opponents. Jedi kill you moron. He was tempted but never fell to the dark side. Your inability to understand Star Wars is appalling.

So what? He had his abilities he never stomped just as Kenobi never stomped so your opinion does not matter. The Jedi kill, use the force offensively Kenobi blasting Grievous is another example you idiot, and I have evidence so your perception is just your own interpretation whereas the facts are the facts.

Amazing. Everything you just argued was a strawman.

I never said Jedi don't kill.

I never said Luke fell to the dark side.

Originally posted by ares834
Amazing. Everything you just argued was a strawman.

I never said Jedi don't kill.

I never said Luke fell to the dark side. You said the Jedi do not use the force offensively. I gave multiple examples but you ignored them. You can pretend force users rape all skilled bounty hunters but you are living in your own world. Forget cad bane defeating Kenobi, Jango Fett, etc. to push your false fanfics. Luke used the tactic and never fell to the dark side so it is fair game. He was confident in Rotj and used his abilities much more effectively than the inexperienced Luke from the esb.

You said a whole lot of ignore this and ignore that.

From the official site.

https://www.starwars.com/databank/force-push

FORCE PUSH
A key Force ability, the Force push is both an offensive and defensive technique. It is employed primarily by Jedi but also used by the Sith, and is accomplished with a forward hand gesture. Force pushes can range in intensity from simple movements to dangerous, powerful shoves that can disorient and harm opponents in battle.

https://media.giphy.com/media/66b9i5tKgMjOo/giphy.gif

Are you incapable of not using strawmans?

Originally posted by ares834
Are you incapable of using strawmans?

Quick answer: no.

Jedi's are not evil. They won't kill nor attack someone just for the sake of it.

They only use the force against someone for self defence or to protect someone else.

Originally posted by ares834
Are you incapable of using strawmans? I cited the official site which states the Jedi primarily use the force push. If you do not know what primarily means, want to ignore the examples, and ignore the official site in favor of your imagination by all means. You stare evidence in the face and turn away. Pitiful.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Quick answer: no.

Jedi's are not evil. They won't kill nor attack someone just for the sake of it.

They only use the force against someone for self defence or to protect someone else. Thesecare combat threads. I am citing them using the force in combat not against innocent bystanders you moron.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Not based on the evidence. Cap has more experience, is stronger, is more durable, and has better weaponry. Cap wins, easily.

/Joshslife

Originally posted by quanchi112
Jango is worse off than Cap. Physically weaker, less experience, less powerful and not as durable. Point is tk is not some ability that is not able to be overcome even in its own native and weaker universe.

Less experienced? I'm going to need a source on that chief, cap has only been an active combatant for like 15 years. He also has a lot more varied equipment than cap has.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Movies only, read the rules.


Television series canon to the movies are allowed.

See Star Trek for an example.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You're aware that we argue in character, correct?


I wonder what Snoke can do In Character? Oh yeah, he can die

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Television series canon to the movies are allowed.

See Star Trek for an example.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
I wonder what Snoke can do In Character? Oh yeah, he can die He can defeat Rey quite easily. He also out Kylo in his ass quite easily. Snoke is the most powerful force user to date.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Less experienced? I'm going to need a source on that chief, cap has only been an active combatant for like 15 years. He also has a lot more varied equipment than cap has. We see the experience he goes through with the war and on screen fights that greatly outshines Palp or Jango by far. Go by the evidence, kiddo.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
I wonder what Snoke can do In Character? Oh yeah, he can die

Being impaled in an embarrassing way is his expertise!

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Being impaled in an embarrassing way is his expertise! Says the guy who thinks Sidious was cool screaming unable to stop a one armed cyborg from killing him.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Television series canon to the movies are allowed.

See Star Trek for an example.

Okay, I'm officially confused now.

What does exactly count for Star Wars in this particular Vs. forum...?

Somebody call Imp...

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Okay, I'm officially confused now.

What does exactly count for Star Wars in this particular Vs. forum...?

Somebody call Imp...

Anything canon to the movies should count as valid for the MVF.

Series, TV Shows, comics and extra material is created by movie franchises to fill in the holes that the movies can't cover.

Disney Star Wars has released several of these to further explain various events not covered by the movies.

I don't see why they shouldn't be valid to debate if they are valid for the movies.

^since when did you become a mod?

Stick to topic and stop flaming.

Next person who goes off topic gets a week ban.

Take it to the off topic to talk shit.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Cap wins.

Definitely

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Definitely I believe due to superior power, durability, skill, and experience.

Very good points, great spelling and punctuation as well.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Very good points, great spelling and punctuation as well. Why thank you. Debating is good for the soul.

Sidious has so many ways to end this, knock the shield off course, strangle Cap, chop him to pieces with his lightsaber, torture him with lightning; he has better speed and reaction time than cap also; its palps fight to win here

Originally posted by relentless1
Sidious has so many ways to end this, knock the shield off course, strangle Cap, chop him to pieces with his lightsaber, torture him with lightning; he has better speed and reaction time than cap also; its palps fight to win here Based on which fights? Scripting the fight is not debating. Evidence.

Originally posted by relentless1
Sidious has so many ways to end this, knock the shield off course, strangle Cap, chop him to pieces with his lightsaber, torture him with lightning; he has better speed and reaction time than cap also; its palps fight to win here

"And the truth shall set you free".

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
"And the truth shall set you free". Evidence is required. Post evidence.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
"And the truth shall set you free".


An opinion isn't fact, a true debater would know this

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
An opinion isn't fact, a true debater would know this https://media3.giphy.com/media/KKLsxDqkps1IA/giphy.gif

Can Palpatine lift Mjolnir with the Force?

Does being worthy count with TK?

Originally posted by Impediment
Can Palpatine lift Mjolnir with the Force?

Does being worthy count with TK? Sidious is definitely not worthy.

Originally posted by Impediment
Can Palpatine lift Mjolnir with the Force?

Does being worthy count with TK?

I think it should be able to lift it. The Force can be interpreted as a form of energy/magic in the MCU, so I guess it should.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I think it should be able to lift it. The Force can be interpreted as a form of energy/magic in the MCU, so I guess it should. Based on? Can the force user lift anything regardless of weight?

Could he TK it using a coat hanger?

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Kinda joking but kinda not. What if a telekinetic moves like a stick or something through the leather loop and then telekinetically lifts the stick? It's technically not directly trying to lift Mjolnir. Would Mjolnir get suspended in the air as a bi-product of the action? Or would the enchantment keep the stick from raising?

To expand on the point, we see the coat rack. And then we also have Tony and Steve joking about the elevator still going up with Mjolnir in it, in AoU. And I presume if Thor put Mjolnir down inside a quinjet, the quinjet could still take off. So, the enchantment doesn't seem to apply to the hammer being lifted by non-living means i.e. things to which the worthy enchantment can't really apply. So, if it gets lifted by something else that's being controlled by a telekinetic, force user etc., could the enchantment detect that the force from the thing lifting the hammer comes from a living 3rd party and kick the enchantment into action?

Originally posted by quanchi112
https://media3.giphy.com/media/KKLsxDqkps1IA/giphy.gif

Great movie, BTW, Quan. With the meme.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Could he TK it using a coat hanger?

VpU__j8WpJc

Kinda joking but kinda not. What if a telekinetic moves like a stick or something through the leather loop and then telekinetically lifts the stick? It's technically not directly trying to lift Mjolnir. Would Mjolnir get suspended in the air as a bi-product of the action? Or would the enchantment keep the stick from raising?

Considering that Mjolnir can't be lifted due to magic, and since the Force would be similar to magic, it should he able to lift it.

Isn't like Mjolnir is being literally lifted by matter or an object.

It's like saying that Mjolnir can't float on space.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Considering that Mjolnir can't be lifted due to magic, and since the Force would be similar to magic, it should he able to lift it.

Isn't like Mjolnir is being literally lifted by matter or an object.

It's like saying that Mjolnir can't float on space.

Well, I was more thinking of trying to circumvent it completely. Like if Thor puts Mjolnir on pavement, can a telekinetic individual theoretically lift it by tearing the chunk of pavement out of the ground and levitate it with the hammer resting on top?