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No WOL for Morg.

Well?

Seriously? Has AM gotten a major upgrade that I don't know about? Otherwise Morg slaughters him.

Arthur is coming into this well under the powerminimum that would normally be needed to take a guy on Morgs level down. His fighting ability may be superior, but I'm thinking that the gap in power is too wide to give him anything resembling a majority here.

Originally posted by zopzop
Seriously? Has AM gotten a major upgrade that I don't know about? Otherwise Morg slaughters him. Are we pretending that Morg hasn't had close competitive fights with a brawler that swings pointy things in Terrax?

Morg

Originally posted by abhilegend
Morg




Does Momoaman still have the special trident?

I don't think so.

It really isn't, Terrax is a jobber of highest degree.

Originally posted by abhilegend
It really isn't, Terrax is a jobber of highest degree.
Okay, list 3 examples of him 'jobbing' and watch me prove there was massive context behind those losses.

Originally posted by zopzop
Want me list the things Terrax has done and we can compare them to AM? Terrax's jobber reputation on this forum is unwarranted. I never said anything about jobbing, did I?

The Terrax that fought Morg? You mean the one that got the utter shit beat out of him by a 2-dollar analogue of Wonder Woman?
https://s7d3.turboimg.net/t/42913660_HuB9Res.jpg https://s7d3.turboimg.net/t/42913661_N4cMQ7J.jpg https://s7d3.turboimg.net/t/42913662_FlmAmt3.jpg https://s7d3.turboimg.net/t/42913663_dzRLLrE.jpg https://s7d3.turboimg.net/t/42913664_8d1s6hF.jpg

While Aquaman goes double-KO with the real deal?
https://s7d7.turboimg.net/t/42913751_RCO014.jpg https://s7d7.turboimg.net/t/42913752_RCO015.jpg https://s7d7.turboimg.net/t/42913753_RCO010.jpg

Are we talking about the Terrax that got dick slapped by a non-serious Sentry at his utmost Superman analogue?
https://imgur.com/a/Ggp5e

While Aquaman can at least bother non-serious Superman, even if not damage?
https://imgur.com/a/svYUsvp

Originally posted by zopzop
Are you kidding me? Ganymede was dancing around and hurting Tyrant for phucksake! Losing to Sentry is jobbing now? He's a full tier above Terrax.

How about going toe to toe with a double Galactus amped Dazzler inside a super massive black hole while weakened and giving her the fight of her life.

How about going toe to toe with The New Warriors and the Fantastic Four armed with anti-Terrax weaponry designed by Reed and still not going down until the Surfer showed up and BFRed him. The reason the BFR worked was because Terrax was incarnate in a weakened body!

How about going toe to toe with Firelord/Air Walker/Nova in that weakened body and they still couldn't put him down.

Then you have super space cheese feats like planet busting or lifting the entire island of Manhattan into orbit or surviving inside a super massive black hole for weeks.

Terrax or Morg would murder AM (and I'm saying this as a fan of AM). They'd also murder Namor (AM's Marvel equivalent).

Terrax would be pressed to defeat Namor. Namor was able to contend with Sentry, but Sentry wasn't operating at his higher levels at that time. Even at that time Namor was more or less pushed around by Bob. At the top of his power Sentry was several tiers above Thor. This includes Terrax, Namor, and a Hyperion level opponent. The Sentry's power levels have always been extremely dynamic because they're dependent on Bob's mental state.

Philosophia suffers from the same thing that many if not all Pro DC/Or Pro Marvel fans do. It could even be seen as hypocrisy. Philosophia has argued full power showings over average portrayals when it comes to DC characters and forget about ever mentioning the dozens of times that DC characters have taken beatings. But then looks for any avenue that paints a poor picture of Marvel characters.

It seems like a decetive double standard.

Originally posted by Stoic


Philosophia suffers from the same thing that many if not all Pro DC/Or Pro Marvel fans do. It could even be seen as hypocrisy. Philosophia has argued full power showings over average portrayals when it comes to DC characters and forget about ever mentioning the dozens of times that DC characters have taken beatings. But then looks for any avenue that paints a poor picture of a Marvel characters.

It seems like a decetive double standard.

Phil and Zop both read a lot of comics so their posts actually have substances and quality

You would've get your ass torned in half debating Phil.

So stop being a butthurt snowflake, just let the adults talk, you can sit on the sideline and learn

This is a sincere suggestion, not an insult, don't get angry on me now...

Originally posted by zopzop
Are you kidding me? Ganymede was dancing around and hurting Tyrant for phucksake! Losing to Sentry is jobbing now? He's a full tier above Terrax.

How about going toe to toe with a double Galactus amped Dazzler inside a super massive black hole while weakened and giving her the fight of her life.

How about going toe to toe with The New Warriors and the Fantastic Four armed with anti-Terrax weaponry designed by Reed and still not going down until the Surfer showed up and BFRed him. The reason the BFR worked was because Terrax was incarnate in a weakened body!

How about going toe to toe with Firelord/Air Walker/Nova in that weakened body and they still couldn't put him down.

Then you have super space cheese feats like planet busting or lifting the entire island of Manhattan into orbit or surviving inside a super massive black hole for weeks.

Terrax or Morg would murder AM (and I'm saying this as a fan of AM). They'd also murder Namor (AM's Marvel equivalent).


Damn right. Terrax is underrated, and Morg is a top tier high herald.

Originally posted by MrMind
Phil and Zop both read a lot of comics so their posts actually have substances and quality

You would've get your ass torned in half debating Phil.

So stop being a butthurt snowflake, just let the adults talk, you can sit on the sideline and learn

This is a sincere suggestion, not an insult, don't get angry on me now...

Shut up @sshole. You have no idea what I read. Don't pretend that you know me so well, when you don't know me at all. You're just another Pro DC flake that thrives on the ability to decieve. You insult me, while I hurt you. The truth has that effect on scum.

as predicted

You mean action and reaction? None of your bullshit can cover up my statement. You should learn to pick your battles more wisely youngster.

Originally posted by zopzop
Okay, list 3 examples of him 'jobbing' and watch me prove there was massive context behind those losses.
Got bitchslapped by a bunch of fodder x men.

Originally posted by Galan007
https://s6d8.turboimg.net/t1/34688390_X-Men_-_Gold_2017-_001-005.jpg https://s6d8.turboimg.net/t1/34688396_X-Men_-_Gold_2017-_001-006.jpg https://s6d8.turboimg.net/t1/34688397_X-Men_-_Gold_2017-_001-007.jpg https://s6d8.turboimg.net/t1/34688398_X-Men_-_Gold_2017-_001-008.jpg https://s6d8.turboimg.net/t1/34688402_X-Men_-_Gold_2017-_001-009.jpg

Point out the context.

Originally posted by Stoic
Terrax would be pressed to defeat Namor. Namor was able to contend with Sentry, but Sentry wasn't operating at his higher levels at that time. Even at that time Namor was more or less pushed around by Bob. At the top of his power Sentry was several tiers above Thor. This includes Terrax, Namor, and a Hyperion level opponent. The Sentry's power levels have always been extremely dynamic because they're dependent on Bob's mental state.

Philosophia suffers from the same thing that many if not all Pro DC/Or Pro Marvel fans do. It could even be seen as hypocrisy. Philosophia has argued full power showings over average portrayals when it comes to DC characters and forget about ever mentioning the dozens of times that DC characters have taken beatings. But then looks for any avenue that paints a poor picture of Marvel characters.

It seems like a decetive double standard.

Sentry was operating at his powerful levels. That was void Sentry.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Got bitchslapped by a bunch of fodder x men.



Point out the context.
Let me get this straight, he went up against a Team of X-Men consisting of : Storm, Shadowcat, Nightcrawler, Colossus, Prestige (Rachel Summers), Wolverine and lost?

What would that team have done to AM?

Originally posted by Stoic


It seems like a decetive double standard.

Only because you're ignoring the context of their conversation.

"Fodder" X-Men. I swear, some people just want to get banned.

Morg wins but didn't Cap phuck Terrax up?

Originally posted by zopzop
Are you kidding me? Ganymede was dancing around and hurting Tyrant for phucksake! Losing to Sentry is jobbing now? He's a full tier above Terrax.

How about going toe to toe with a double Galactus amped Dazzler inside a super massive black hole while weakened and giving her the fight of her life.

How about going toe to toe with The New Warriors and the Fantastic Four armed with anti-Terrax weaponry designed by Reed and still not going down until the Surfer showed up and BFRed him. The reason the BFR worked was because Terrax was incarnate in a weakened body!

How about going toe to toe with Firelord/Air Walker/Nova in that weakened body and they still couldn't put him down.

Then you have super space cheese feats like planet busting or lifting the entire island of Manhattan into orbit or surviving inside a super massive black hole for weeks.

Terrax or Morg would murder AM (and I'm saying this as a fan of AM). They'd also murder Namor (AM's Marvel equivalent). Zop, you seem to misunderstand who you're talking to. You're having a separate conversation with Abhi on how Terrax is a jobber. The showings I brought up are not made to say he is a jobber - they're meant to show relative comparisons between Aquaman and Terrax - in order to justify the fact that Aquaman would be competitive with Morg, the same way Terrax was.

On that train of thought, we've seen that Ganymede beat his ass casually, and easily, in melee. You're also using Ganymede's sucker attack energy-blast hurting Tyrant before getting one-shottedhttps://i.imgur.com/4YVfwnS.jpg] but you're absolutely missing the fact that Ganymede has not used the energy blast against Terrax, but simply beat his hand in close quarters -- the same way Terrax was competitive in close quarters with Morg. So then, I ask you, what relevance does her energy blast hurting Tyrant, have to do with her physically beating Terrax handily in fisticuffs?

I mean, if you really want to bring up 'hurting' that class of characters as showings, then here's Wonder Woman using her sword to pull Darkseid's eyes out:
https://imgur.com/a/aLWNE
Notice that Wonder Woman didn't use her sword in the Aquaman fight I showed -- so how is this relevant for Arthur? Absolutely in no way. The same way Ganymede using an attack to hurt Tyrant, that she didn't use on Terrax, is not relevant.

On a similar line of thought -- using Sentry has nothing to do with him being a jobber . It's to show the contrast between Aquaman vastly overpowerforming Terrax against a similar character .

Aquaman doesn't have the 'cosmic cheese' of going into black holes and whatnot -- certainly, but he makes up by fighting characters who do. So we have Aquaman in close quarters, fighting superior characters of the same analogues Terrax does and doing vastly better.

We have the same Terrax doing reasonably well in close quarters against Morg https://imgur.com/a/pU3VB].

And your conclusion is that Aquaman wouldn't be able to replicate a similar performance, against a notorious brawler Morg?

Before you ask , I never said who wins in this thread, either...but I take problems with your assumption that Aquaman wouldn't be considerably competitive against, in the type of fight that he does.

Morg stomps.

Originally posted by zopzop
Let me get this straight, he went up against a Team of X-Men consisting of : Storm, Shadowcat, Nightcrawler, Colossus, Prestige (Rachel Summers), Wolverine and lost?

What would that team have done to AM?
Where did I say anything about Aquaman? I already said that Morg wins here. Originally posted by -Pr-
"Fodder" X-Men. I swear, some people just want to get banned.
ermm

What?

Originally posted by zopzop
Ganymede is a "pixie" type fighter (see Spiderman, Mongoose, etc...). She has superhuman physical stats, FTL flight speed, extensive combat training, and a weapon that can hurt a (minimum) Skyfather level being. She was dodging laser blasts at point blank range from Surfer and she went up against Tyrant again in Cosmic Powers 6 and was the last person standing (by dodging his attacks) before Thanos showed up.

AM/Terrax/Morg are BRAWLERS. They're not gonna be jumping around landing punches or using ninja reflexes to dodge anything, they are gonna stand there and go toe to toe trading blows.

This thread didn't limit them strictly H2H, this is all powers in play. Terrax is more powerful than AM. Morg is more powerful than both. Either of them would beat AM. I....didn't ask you to confirm Ganymede's style of fighting but....yes....she's a Wonder Woman analogue , and she wields a weapon that projects energy that, when using a sucker punch, hurt Tyrant ... an ability she didn't use against Terrax....so it's...irrelevant as far as he's concerned, as she just beat him down in conventionally close quarters combat. I feel like you're not even talking to me anymore, weirdly enough, lol.

Since I brought up Wonder Woman's sword hurting Darkseid having no relevance as far as Aquaman is concerned, in order to illustrate why Ganymede's energy having hurt Tyrant having no relevance as far as Terrax is concerned , I figure it's worth showing Aquaman himself piercing Darkseid:

https://s7d3.turboimg.net/t/42969019_6565302-6075429990-50824.jpg

And one-shotting white martians types:
https://s7d4.turboimg.net/t/42970091_RCO017.jpg https://s7d4.turboimg.net/t/42970092_RCO018.jpg https://s7d4.turboimg.net/t/42970093_RCO012.jpg

Yes, they're all generally using hand/weapon to hand/weapon combat, and toe to toe trading blows, Aquaman outperformed Terrax against similar types of opponents in physical combat , Ganymede ; Superman , Sentry ]. Terrax was competitive, in the same type of fight, to Morg, so the 3 of them would, in this type of fight, be competitive to one another.

I feel like I already said this like....3 times, and I don't like repeating it ad nauseam. So in closing...

If we're in the 'let's voice our opinions out loud' part of the discussion..
Terrax needs to keep his distance with Earth control against Aquaman, otherwise , Arthur would most likely push it in, or put the trident through his head. Which is challenging, given that Aquaman speed-rammed Wonder Woman trying to lasso him after punching Superman away:
https://s7d4.turboimg.net/t/42969718_0MyKuoLkCxo.jpg https://s7d4.turboimg.net/t/42969719_PQ0CC3cWJJ4.jpg

And his fast paced leaping is compared to flying:
https://s7d8.turboimg.net/t/42969594_4876023-aquaman20jump203.jpg https://s7d8.turboimg.net/t/42969595_6563945-aquaman20jump201.jpg

Morg? That's why I made the thread I'd give it to Morg, due to energy blasts. The Trident doesn't have enough feats to say Arthur'd be able to defend himself indefinitely, and he can't keep dodging forever. He'd make it contested if he closes the distance and goes close quarters, and Morg accepts that type of fight. But when the latter mixes it up, Arthur'd lose.

Then there's TP...which is difficult to judge for current Aquaman.

@Philo
Except it wasn't a one time thing with Ganymede and Tyrant. She outlasted her teammates against Tyrant because of her speed and agility (till Thanos showed up). It was in Cosmic Powers 6.
https://i.postimg.cc/LqFXTMhv/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/wy6jCcXm/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/fV9ymbWJ/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/Z0bW2ZHM/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/bsdsYTK0/image.jpg

She's hurt Surfer with her staff without firing any energy blasts from it :
https://i.postimg.cc/rDcCY7dy/RCO031.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/kVgN78Fk/RCO003.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/cKkRCHF6/RCO004.jpg

Back to Terrax, Firelord and Airwalker couldn't physically restrain him (even in his weakened state). He's casually pwned the Thing. He stood up to a cosmic powered Gamora with Godslayer. So his fight vs Morg isn't some fluke.

He'd slaughter AM with all powers in play.

Regarding strictly H2H, he'd win in any non aquatic environment. He'd lose in/around water because of AM's superior maneuverability there.

Originally posted by zopzop
@Philo
Except it wasn't a one time thing with Ganymede and Tyrant. She outlasted her teammates against Tyrant because of her speed and agility (till Thanos showed up). It was in Cosmic Powers 6.
https://i.postimg.cc/LqFXTMhv/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/wy6jCcXm/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/fV9ymbWJ/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/Z0bW2ZHM/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/bsdsYTK0/image.jpg

She's hurt Surfer with her staff without firing any energy blasts from it :
https://i.postimg.cc/rDcCY7dy/RCO031.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/kVgN78Fk/RCO003.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/cKkRCHF6/RCO004.jpg

Back to Terrax, Firelord and Airwalker couldn't physically restrain him (even in his weakened state). He's casually pwned the Thing. He stood up to a cosmic powered Gamora with Godslayer. So his fight vs Morg isn't some fluke.

He'd slaughter AM with all powers in play.

Regarding strictly H2H, he'd win in any non aquatic environment. He'd lose in/around water because of AM's superior maneuverability there.

Morg would win even in water.

Originally posted by Stoic
Morg would win even in water.
I agree. Morg > Terrax > AM.

Originally posted by zopzop
@Philo
Except it wasn't a one time thing with Ganymede and Tyrant. She outlasted her teammates against Tyrant because of her speed and agility (till Thanos showed up). It was in Cosmic Powers 6.

She's hurt Surfer with her staff without firing any energy blasts from it :

Back to Terrax, Firelord and Airwalker couldn't physically restrain him (even in his weakened state). He's casually pwned the Thing. He stood up to a cosmic powered Gamora with Godslayer. So his fight vs Morg isn't some fluke.

He'd slaughter AM with all powers in play.

Regarding strictly H2H, he'd win in any non aquatic environment. He'd lose in/around water because of AM's superior maneuverability there. Zop, you need to focus, because you're all over the place. It's really odd talking to you, in general.

I said Ganymede beat Terrax. You said, well, she hurt Tyrant. I said she hurt Tyrant with a sucker shot energy blast that she never used on Terrax, and only beat him strictly with melee.

Thus, your point about her hurting Tyrant is irrelevant.

Do you follow up until now?

Good.

Now..

Ganymede Mongoose-ing Surfer is supposed to show...what...exactly?

Where did I say she can't hurt heralds.....when...she...beat a herald?

What does this have to do with anything?

Why are you cutting off the Surfer/Ganymede confrontation, just before Surfer casually restrains her while saying that he's been holding back the entire confrontation?

https://s7d4.turboimg.net/t/42981981_RCO005.jpg

This is...weird.

Zop, why are you saying random stuff, here? What is your point?

Do you even have a point?

You bring the Thing....and Gamora...to argue that Morg wasn't a fluke.

What does that have to do with anything?

Where did I say Morg is a fluke?

What the f*ck is going on, zop?

Are you too afraid to try and argue that Ganymede is superior to Wonder Woman so you're beating around the bush?

I'll make it easy for you:
Wonder Woman is superior to Ganymede, and you will get shitstomped if you want to compare them.
Aquaman fought Wonder Woman to a standstill, while Terrax got humiliated by Ganymede.

There.

Do you challenge any of this?

I feel like Patrick Swayze in Ghost. I'm talking, but you only seem to be talking to yourself.

Because this is borderline incoherent.

Originally posted by zopzop
It's really not hard.
A) Regarding Surfer, he's a full tier above Terrax in power. I'd expect him to do much better vs Ganymede.
B) Ganymede is a pixie type fighter (hit and run). That's how she fought Terrax, using her superior speed to humiliate him. Nevermind that Terrax fought like an idiot completely ignoring his other powers to neutralize her superior combat speed. This is why she was last man standing vs Tyrant while Terrax/Legacy/Jack of Hearts fell.


Wonder Woman wasn't fighting like that vs AM. They were just brawling. And if a fight between Terrax and AM comes down to brawling (especially away from water), AM is dead. A battle between Terrax and AM with all powers in play is even worse for AM, he'd lose no matter where the fight took place.

Morg > Terrax > AM. Yes, Surfer did much better than Terrax against Ganymede...but what does that have to do with anything?

Why did you omit the scan where it says that Surfer was holding back and he easily stopped her?

You ended up putting Terrax in an even worse light, when you forced me to put out the scan that you purposely left out, to see how Surfer treats her.

The fact that Terrax couldn't do against Ganymede what Aquaman does against Diana should you clue you in that maybe -- just maybe -- he's inferior. While Terrax gets danced around and treated like a toddler, Aquaman bullrushes WW at superspeed https://imgur.com/a/xsCae1H], goes into double-ko slugfests and grapples with her :
https://s7d6.turboimg.net/t/42983594_iF6aOPS.jpg https://s7d6.turboimg.net/t/42983595_PxqweBS.jpg

Also, hold up -- but you think that Aquaman, who brawls with Wonder Woman to a standstill -- would lose in a brawl with Terrax?

You...

You think Terrax would take Wonder Woman in a brawl?

Are you serious, zop?

What if Terrax fought WW in that same way?

What if we have a brawl thread where WW - the best h2h combatant in the herald tier - fights Terrax?

Would Terrax do better or worse than AM?

Originally posted by zopzop
How did I lose ground on Ganymede? The WW/AM fights were straight up brawls. She never fought him in the manner Ganymede fought Terrax even though she easily could have. Everyone can see the different fight styles in the scans.

If AM fights Terrax the way he fought WW, he'd be dead. He wouldn't be brawling with an old friend trying to reason with him, he'd be fighting a straight up killer. Do you read my posts?

I'm legitimately wondering if you do. lol

Wonder Woman wasn't brawling with an old friend, trying to reason with him. That was only in the short scuffle in JLA -- but the relevant fight is when she thought she was fighting Cheetah . The fight ended with both of them on the ground.

Seriously, do you..even open....the...scans?

How you lost ground? You tried to defend Terrax losing to Ganymede as her being a skyfather hurting being, until I pointed out that she didn't use the sucker-punch skyfather hurting energy on Terrax, but simply beat his ass physically. Then you randomly brought up her 'hurting' Surfer (??), and also hiding the scan where Surfer easily stops her and tells her he held back.

Now you're incoherently screaming "Pixie type fighter! pixie type fighter! Mongoose!". How about this -- Aquaman is not a slow retard that Wonder Woman can dance around, but a skilled, strong, fast combatant. Terrax, on the other hand, looks like a guy trying to catch his cat after 25 beers

Furthermore...

you keep zop--zop--zop-ing around like a rabbit with this....

and since I already asked this repeatedly, I'll let somebody else ask it...

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What if Terrax fought WW in that same way?

What if we have a brawl thread where WW - the best h2h combatant in the herald tier - fights Terrax?

Would Terrax do better or worse than AM?

Originally posted by zopzop
He would do at least as well as AM h2h vs WW. If all powers were in play and he was feeling sadistic, he'd force tons of sand/gravel into her body, killing her instantly. Holy shit.

You think that Terrax would stalemate Wonder Woman in h2h and they'd both end up on the floor?

Oh, boy.

Battlezone? Can't wait for this.

We can have the battelzone split into two parts - h2h and all powers in play.

Wow.

So Terrax can stalemate WW in h2h? Nice

All powers included seems to be what you're attempting to leave out. You're blatantly trying to move the goal posts. This isn't about Terrax, so why venture there? Should we bring Black Manta into this?

Originally posted by zopzop
Again what's the problem? He stalemated her for a few PANELS in a brawl. He punched Superman and sent him flying. What is so controversial about Terrax replicating these 'feats'?



How about the fact that he explcilty FAILED to come even close to this level of performance against comparable-- actually, inferior-- opponents.

Terrax losing isn't a positive here.


So far, you have utterly failed to prove this.

Originally posted by panthergod
How about the fact that he explcilty FAILED to come even close to this level of performance against comparable-- actually, inferior-- opponents.


Except their opponents were fighting in two different styles. WW was brawling with AM. Ganymede was using her speed/skill to stay out of Terrax's reach.


Terrax fought a legit CL100 High Herald to standstill in a prolonged fight before being overwhelmed. A weakened Terrax was owning Firelord/Airwalker/Nova. A weakened Terrax couldn't be restrained by Firelord and AirWalker. A weakened Terrax took on the New Warriors and Fantastic Four armed with anti-Terrax weaponry by Reed and only lost when Silver Surfer stepped in. Terrax fought a twice Galactus amped Dazzler to a standstill inside a super massive black hole and only lost because he was exhausted (he'd been hiding in there for WEEKS to avoid Galactus' wrath).

Terrax has busted a planet on panel. He rocked an entire planet another time (Rom issue) leveling entire cities. He's lifted the entire island of Manhattan into space. He's hurled a small mountain range at Iron Man. His axe is strong and sharp enough to cut the Surfer's board in two and block attacks from beings like Tyrant. He's walked through heavy artillery fire from machine guns, tank shells, helicopter gunfire and was completely unfazed.

Originally posted by zopzop
Again what's the problem? He stalemated her for a few PANELS in a brawl. He punched Superman and sent him flying. What is so controversial about Terrax replicating these 'feats'?

I'm genuinely curious as to your answer. Because going by on panel power feats and fights, Terrax sh|ts all over AM. So you're backing down from your position that Terrax would at least stalemate Wonder Woman in a brawl, or even beat her with the full powers? Shocking.

Aquaman didn't stalemate her for a few panels in a brawl - he fought her extensively until they were both down. In another instance, he could physically grapple with her. In another, he use his super-speed to ram into her, with the lasso wrapped around his neck, before she could defend. Taken together, their peer-ness in this type of fight is well documented. Terrax, by comparison, was a 6 year old trying to act tough to his 16 year old sister.

I just demonstrated, with multiple posts, that Terrax comes out looking much worse against analogues in fights. The fact that you keep screaming the same things "Terrax STRONG! Aquaman WEAK!" is rather....discomforting. It's like I'm talking to a kid putting his fingers in his ears screaming "nanananana".

Are you a robot, by any chance, zop?

Hm.

Let's see...

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Case "MORG>TERRAX>AQUAMAN LOLZ":
zop.Close();
break;

Case "PIXIE!MONGOOSE!"
zop.Close();
break;

Case & quot;RepeatingPreviousBadArgumentsAndHopingPhilGet
sBored"
zop.Close()
break;
}

Are you still here?



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zop.input(statement);
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BrainBox.Show("I.Cannot.Comprehend. MORG>TERRAX>AQUAMAN LOLZ."
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Funny thing is that Philosophia here is the one turning this into a circular argument while pretending superiority. Terrax does not fight like Aquaman. We all know this. Since we all know this, we also know that he'd fight her the same way that he fought the Sentry, which was by using his cosmic powers. Powers capable of destroying planets.

What if Ganymede was able to defeat Aquaman? Any proof saying she couldn't? What if she were able to break even with Wonder Woman, or better yet defeat Wonder Woman? Any proof saying she couldn't?

Philosophia seems to have reverted to type by underhandedly calling Zop stupid, when in actuality seems to be the one lacking the ability to comprehend. All this in order to lowball Morg who doesn't fight like Aquaman either. What next? Aquaman beats a full powered Juggernaut because he doesn't fight like an MMA Champion?

Who in their right mind would believe Ganymede is even remotely close to Wondy?

Originally posted by Juntai
Who in their right mind would believe Ganymede is even remotely close to Wondy?

Long time no see Juntai, how you been?

Originally posted by panthergod
How about the fact that he explcilty FAILED to come even close to this level of performance against comparable-- actually, inferior-- opponents.

Terrax losing isn't a positive here.


So far, you have utterly failed to prove this.

What makes you think this? Terrax can and has cut entire planets in half. Can Aquaman do that? How would Aquaman manage to escape entrapment if he fought Terrax? If they fought on any planets surface, Terrax could probably crush Aquaman beneath the battlefield that they fought on, he has air superiority, long range sniper advantages. I can't see how Aquaman is his superior? Look man not being rude here, but If you aren't willing to see both sides, or have decided to lean too heavilly on one side shows a certain level of bias. It kind of compromises your entire stance.

Originally posted by Juntai
Who in their right mind would believe Ganymede is even remotely close to Wondy?

No one unwilling to to imagine it, would be my guess. As far as fictional characters go, anything is possible. This is something that we should keep in mind.

Ganymede managed to damage Tyrant, albeit that her staff was apparently fashioned to harm him, as all Spinsters were required to possess one to combat him.

But, we also saw her physically harm Terrax with strikes giving the impression that she would have been capable of harming anyone in Wonder Woman's weight class (Terrax is pretty durable).

The only times that her limits were truly etched in stone happened when she confronted Tyrant, and later Thanos. This could certainly place her within Wonder Woman's power range, so it isn't a totally outlandish notion.

Back to Morg vs Aquaman.

Who in their right mind would believe Aquaman is even remotely close to Morg?