Who in Marvel can use Hal's ring?

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LordGod
What characters in the Marvel universe have enough willpower to put on Hal Jordan's GL ring and use it effectively without being completely overwhelmed and destroyed by it?

This is the ring Hal himself forged in Rebirth-

https://i.postimg.cc/cHshm6VW/00.jpg


-For the purposes of this thread the ring's "unauthorized user" safeguards are turned off.

TheHulkster
Warlock

darthgoober
Willpower is one of those things that's really hard to quantify so it's super hard to say for sure. As far as the guys with the most willpower in Marvel(and thus the best chances at succeeding) IMO would be Doom, Cap, and Thanos, plus Mags and Namor with a lower chance of success.

Galan007
Just want to mention that even Kyle Rayner barely managed to control Hal's ring/willpower initially(and that was AFTER Hal had literally willed his ring over to him.) Additionally, the ring actually started asserting Hal's will into Kyle's own consciousness:
https://i.imgur.com/D4tQANe.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/uetpAOu.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/uJ8c5fy.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ASW0duH.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/f6nH25f.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/e8NtpSj.jpg


So whoever the Marvel character is, they'd need to have willpower no less than equal to Kyle's just to have a shot at controlling Hal's ring to any extent...

Quick Freeze
Frank Castle

CatL18
Steve Rogers

DeadpoolXXX
theres a difference between having enough willpower to use a standard gl ring, and having enough willpower to use HALS ring. even guys like batman can barely even interface with a normal gl ring for example. hals ring is a completely different beast

kyle rayner is one of the most experienced and powerful lanterns in dc (probably only second to hal himself). this is a guy who has wielded the power of ION on more then one occasion, the power of every lantern color, AND the f&cking power of the white lantern. but even kyle could barely get a hold on hals ring. its THAT powerful

so no, i dont see someone like steve rogers using hals ring at all. i think marvels best shot would be someone like thanos.

Supermutant
too easy for Victor Von Doom

Insane Titan
Thanos, easily.

LordGod
I could see Doom or Thanos being able to control it thanks to all their stints with highend power over the years.

Anyone else have a shot?

DarkSaint85
Don't forget, Green Arrow (who also has buckets of willpower) had the WRONG sort of willpower, being too cynical to use it.

So that's another factor to consider.

https://comicnewbies.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/green-arrow-uses-a-green-lantern-ring-4.jpg

LordGod
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And like was mentioned- that is just "a" GL ring. The ring Hal forged is SO much more.

Galan007
I think there's a misconception that any random character with decent intelligence and/or willpower can pick up a GL ring and start using it successfully right off the bat... Not the case at all.

And as has been mentioned already: Hal's ring is on a completely different level from your 'standard' GL ring. The fact that Kyle was struggling immensely just to contain it is extremely telling.

TheHulkster
Maybe Doom:

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-e845bdf33971b9e789681fcbeab0f251-c

DarkSaint85
Lol

Stoic
Carol Danvers. Well, at least given enough time.

BrolyBlack
Below skyfathers?

Definite's: Thanos, Doom, Captain America

Possibles: Strange

Up in the air: Ironman, Wolverine

xJLxKing

HueyFreeman
Originally posted by LordGod
What characters in the Marvel universe have enough willpower to put on Hal Jordan's GL ring and use it effectively without being completely overwhelmed and destroyed by it?

This is the ring Hal himself forged in Rebirth-

https://i.postimg.cc/cHshm6VW/00.jpg


-For the purposes of this thread the ring's "unauthorized user" safeguards are turned off. I get a spiderman vibe. His will is insane sometimes

Galan007
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Don't forget, Green Arrow (who also has buckets of willpower) had the WRONG sort of willpower, being too cynical to use it.

So that's another factor to consider.

https://comicnewbies.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/green-arrow-uses-a-green-lantern-ring-4.jpg This is a good point. thumb up

I'd also add that as of "Darkseid War", it was stated that even Batman could "BARELY interface with a power ring":
https://i.imgur.com/c6t4SAz.jpg
...And that's Batman, ffs... A guy who obviously has immense willpower, has extensively studied Lantern rings, and had actually used Lantern rings a few times by that point -- yet successfully operating a GL ring was still beyond him.

Point being: it takes more than *just* general willpower to harness the power of a GL ring and use it successfully. While there are some characters in Marvel that I don't mind giving the benefit of the doubt to, there are others that I don't think would have a chance in hell at using a normal GL ring... Nevermind Hal's ring.

I've seen multiple people mention Cap, for example. Not a chance, imo.

SquallX
Captain America, Classic Thor, Classic Strange

Insane Titan

Galan007
Originally posted by xJLxKing
No one..not for long

Hal has the highest willpower there is. This was pretty clear when Kyle a fellow green lantern could barely manage to use the ring

I don't think anyone can manage to use that ring for long. I think some people are forgetting that the ring Hal forged literally IS his own personal willpower condensed into a GL ring:
https://s7d5.turboimg.net/t1/43074591_4803607.jpg https://s7d5.turboimg.net/t1/43074592_6673263.jpg https://s7d5.turboimg.net/t1/43074593_5924250.jpg https://s7d5.turboimg.net/t1/43074594_60806.jpg https://s7d5.turboimg.net/t1/43074596_4276689.jpg



And as we know, Hal's 'God-Will' = the light of creation itself:
https://s7d5.turboimg.net/t1/43074589_2538939.jpg https://s7d5.turboimg.net/t1/43074590_6342860.jpg

AlbertoJohnAvil
Galan... Captain America has some of the greatest willpower feats to date. The guy resisted 10x cosmic cube telepathy

Galan007
And Bruce has resisted the ALE... Still can't use a GL ring successfully.

DarkSaint85
Willpower alone isn't what is needed.

AlbertoJohnAvil
So what's the requirements?

DeadpoolXXX
the complete lack of understanding where gl rings are concerned is unbelievable. people really underestimate ring bearers...

DeadpoolXXX
Originally posted by Galan007
I think some people are forgetting that the ring Hal forged literally IS his own personal will condensed into a GL ring:
https://s7d5.turboimg.net/t1/43074591_4803607.jpg https://s7d5.turboimg.net/t1/43074592_6673263.jpg https://s7d5.turboimg.net/t1/43074593_5924250.jpg https://s7d5.turboimg.net/t1/43074594_60806.jpg https://s7d5.turboimg.net/t1/43074596_4276689.jpg



And as we know, Hal's 'God-Will' = the light of creation itself:
https://s7d5.turboimg.net/t1/43074589_2538939.jpg https://s7d5.turboimg.net/t1/43074590_6342860.jpg thumb upthumb up

hals ring is orders of magnitude above any other gl ring.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
So what's the requirements?

https://i.redd.it/c1ddrtun2f131.jpg

AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
https://i.redd.it/c1ddrtun2f131.jpg

laughing out loud worst writing ever

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
https://i.redd.it/c1ddrtun2f131.jpg

That's.... actually pretty accurate.

Otherwise, if it's simply the drive to do something, Batman and GA wouldn't have had so much trouble.

Galan007
This one was my favorite:

https://i.imgur.com/Ia3xv49.jpg



Jfc, what an absolutely terrible series that was. sick

StiltmanFTW
I loved how Harley wtf pwned the big three.

xJLxKing
Originally posted by Galan007
This one was my favorite:

https://i.imgur.com/Ia3xv49.jpg



Jfc, what an absolutely terrible series that was. sick
Lmao I actually liked this one

LordGod
Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
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hals ring is orders of magnitude above any other gl ring. For sure. Really makes you wonder how much of a difference there is between a normal GL ring and Hal's forged ring. mmm

DeadpoolXXX
hals ring is several times more powerful id say

TheHulkster
Originally posted by LordGod
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And like was mentioned- that is just "a" GL ring. The ring Hal forged is SO much more.

What are the requirements?

TheHulkster
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Willpower alone isn't what is needed.

What else is needed?

DarkSaint85
It's not been defined. Suffice to say though, it's not just willpower.

And that's with a normal GL ring.

Here in this thread, it's Hal's special ring. That experienced GLs like Kyle was having trouble with....and HE'S got willpower and bravery etc feats in spades.

Galan007
Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
hals ring is several times more powerful id say Definitely.

For example, Guy and Hal originally stated that Krona's Gauntlet had power equivalent to "a dozen" GL rings:
https://s7d8.turboimg.net/t1/43079415_1.jpg https://s7d8.turboimg.net/t1/43079417_Green_Lantern_2011-_050-023.jpg


The Gauntlet was SO powerful, in fact, that after it attained consciousness/sentience, it took Mogo, amped by the power of hundredS of Lanterns, just to destroy the Gauntlet's basic constructs:
https://s7d7.turboimg.net/t1/43079738_2_1.jpg https://s7d7.turboimg.net/t1/43079739_2_2.jpg https://s7d7.turboimg.net/t1/43079741_2_3.jpg



...Yet Hal(with his will-forged ring) was ultimately able to overpower the sentient Gauntlet, and destroy it:
https://s7d5.turboimg.net/t1/43079473_1_1.jpg https://s7d5.turboimg.net/t1/43079474_1_2.jpg https://s7d5.turboimg.net/t1/43079475_1_3.jpg https://s7d5.turboimg.net/t1/43079476_1_4.jpg


ie. Hal's ring >>> Krona's Gauntlet >>>>>>>> a standard GL ring. And mind you, what makes it that powerful is Hal's will.

TheHulkster
Maybe Warlock under same circumstances:

https://m.imgur.com/a/ckgFY

LordGod
And obviously there is a direct correlation between the power output of a GL ring and the willpower required to use it. That explains why Kyle had such a hard time trying to control Hal's ring.

Adam Grimes
Wait, Hal then is no longer in the herald tier, is he?

xJLxKing
No, he is Trans under god-will Hal

After all, he straight up defeated Sinestro with Parallax

Galan007
When Hal taps his God-Will, he is a good bit beyond trans.

No trans-level character is doing this or this, for instance... And those are just a few examples.

BrolyBlack

Silent Master
It's funny how when it's Mjolnir. everyone thinks characters they like are the right type of worthy. yet when it's a GL ring, suddenly people seem to grasp the concept of different types of being worthy(having the right kind of willpower).

AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by Silent Master
It's funny how when it's Mjolnir. everyone thinks characters they like are the right type of worthy. yet when it's a GL ring, suddenly people seem to grasp the concept of different types of being worthy(having the right kind of willpower).

Undeniably true laughing out loud

LordGod
Originally posted by Silent Master
It's funny how when it's Mjolnir. everyone thinks characters they like are the right type of worthy. yet when it's a GL ring, suddenly people seem to grasp the concept of different types of being worthy(having the right kind of willpower). Who thinks that?

Or are you just talking shit?

Silent Master
Are you unaware that people on KMC have commented on who they believe is worthy of lifting Mjolnir?

LordGod
And much like this thread, I'm sure some of them were right and some were wrong.

Not that it matters much. Worthiness and willpower are two completely different things.

Silent Master
Not as it pertains to the point I'm making. both are vague concepts that are required in order to use a specfic item. it's just interesting how people suddenly seem to understand things like people needing the right kind of willpower(worthiness).

xJLxKing

Silent Master
To give a few examples for the DC side. I've seen people argue that Batman, Shazam, Hal, Superman etc are worthy of lifting Mjolnir.

Stoic
Carol Danvers, Elvis, Jane Thor, Any Starbrand user, Thanos, and Deadpool.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Silent Master
To give a few examples for the DC side. I've seen people argue that Batman, Shazam, Hal, Superman etc are worthy of lifting Mjolnir.

Does DC have just anybody (hello Jane Foster!) manage to use Hal's ring, because they have a warrior's spirit in fighting cancer (like...every other single cancer sufferer in the world?)

Or does DC specifically go out of their way to show people with high willpower (Green Arrow), high intelligence AND high willpower (Batman, who's actually studied the ring and how it works) BARELY able to make a GENERIC ring work, or people with high willpower, AND experience using a GL ring, being overwhelmed by Hal's ring (Kyle)?

Alberto, feel free to chime in too.

For your analogies to work, Marvel has to show 'worthy' people FAILING to lift Mjolnir. So people who are specifically ALREADY judged to be worthy laughing out loud

TheHulkster
If the requirement for using Hal's ring is being Hal, is this not a spite thread?

StiltmanFTW
It is.

Anyway, probably someone as dumb as him.

Maybe someone like Scott Summers, Hank Pym... oops, sorry, Pr.

I meant Deadpool or Spider-Man embarrasment

Bentley
Kang

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Bentley
Kang

Kang is as dumb as Hal?

Bentley
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Kang is as dumb as Hal?

Hal is at least smart enough not to dress up orphans and make them fight people with guns shifty

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Bentley
Hal is at least smart enough not to dress up orphans and make them fight people with guns shifty

laughing out loud

Considering how Dick got sniped recently... good post, lol.

MrMind
Hal in a nutshell, I love it

https://i.imgur.com/szkBqhe.jpg

darthgoober
Didn't Hal basically date a 14 year old before lol

MrMind
the great emerald jailbait warrior

https://i.imgur.com/6E9vUWw.jpg

BrolyBlack
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