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No PIS
No CIS

in a comic with everybody operating at peak levels

Rd 1 Al Ewing writing Hulk

Rd 2 Pak Hulk


Rd 3 Morrison Superman


Rd 4 Justice league with Superman operating under his strongest writer, against Hulk operating under his strongest writer

No outside amps, no sun dip

pictured version only

https://i.postimg.cc/jCKGg0jZ/suas.jpg

Is this accurate? Yes or no.. Discuss why

nice bait thread

Most members of the JLA or JSA can beat Hulk
Most members of the Legion can beat Hulk
some members of the teen titans can beat Hulk
Most experienced Green Lantern can beat Hulk

He'd be mid level on DC earth
in other word, plastic man solos

No

Originally posted by abhilegend
No

Reasons?

and which round do you think he takes

Lol... hulk in DC would be a Justice League villain.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol... hulk in DC would be a Justice League villain.

Agreed on this.

Which means they'll always win in the end.

he'd be a filler issue villain that gets taken out in the first 5 pages by plastic man, as a build up to the better version of him aka doomsday

There are LOTS of individuals in Justice League who can solo Hulk. Even accounting for the ninja law this would be a stomp in JL's favor.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Reasons?

and which round do you think he takes Originally posted by abhilegend
No

Better question:

Can the Justice League beat the Hulk?

Flash, Green Lantern, Supes, Wonderwoman, Manhunter etc etc.

Diana and J'onn are good for fighting low metas.

Batman is the real threat here, as he can tell the team what to do. Without him, they're all clueless clowns.

I mean the list go on and on for who can beat hulk in JL
From Superman to Zatanna, from Captain Atom to Batman with prep

it be hard to find a Justice League member that couldn't beat hulk

so yeah...like I said half the roster, phantom stranger kills a multiverse of Hulks with a single handwave
https://i.imgur.com/BEMJQhD.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/JLhQw7v.jpg

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Diana and J'onn are good for fighting low metas.

Batman is the real threat here, as he can tell the team what to do. Without him, they're all clueless clowns. Some truth in this but CIS and PIS removed as per forum stops. Half the roster smash Hulk.

Originally posted by MrMind
Captain Atom


CA wouldn't be able to defeat a powerless Daredevil suffering from a severe, explosive diarrhoea, stuck in his law office toilet...

reminds me of this thread in comicvine 10years ago where everybody was laughing at op and listing the amount of people that can solo hulk, was that also you alberto? oh good memories

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/world-war-hulk-vs-dc-universe-395208/

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Some truth in this but CIS and PIS removed as per forum stops. Half the roster smash Hulk.

Yeah, Manhunter on KMC actually should be nigh-unbeatable.

Martian vision, martian breath (it's a thing) spam from a safe distance.

Invisibility + intangibility just to be sure.

Oh, and shifting his organs constantly - just in case.

Plus TP. And the knowledge of his entire culture, which SHOULD mean knowledge of skills in using his powers.

Plus the ability to shapeshift his body into different elements like Metamorpho

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Yeah, Manhunter on KMC actually should be nigh-unbeatable.

Martian vision, martian breath (it's a thing) spam from a safe distance.

Invisibility + intangibility just to be sure.

Oh, and shifting his organs constantly - just in case. Yeah Stilt, he has Martian breath, the first time I saw that was pre crisis when he was protecting the keys to Warworld.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Plus TP. And the knowledge of his entire culture, which SHOULD mean knowledge of skills in using his powers.



Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Plus the ability to shapeshift his body into different elements like Metamorpho

Wait, his shapeshifting powers are that good...?

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Yeah Stilt, he has Martian breath, the first time I saw that was pre crisis when he was protecting the keys to Warworld.

i should really change my title from " A Kryptonian" to " Debunking Still 24/7"

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Even so, we never compare those to the likes of Metamorpho.

Do we?

True, but I would imagine that it wouldn't be much of a stretch for a writer to bridge that gap.

It doesn't help that DC rarely knows what to do with J'onn other than confront him with his past by having yet another group of Martian refugees or White Martians show up. I mean, jesus christ, change the ****ing record.

I feel 100% confident that if Hulk was in DC, he would be a Justice League threat.

The lowballing for Hulk on the site is disgusting

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
The lowballing for Hulk on the site is disgusting

Not just Hulk. I'm going to end it there.

Originally posted by -Pr-
True, but I would imagine that it wouldn't be much of a stretch for a writer to bridge that gap.

It doesn't help that DC rarely knows what to do with J'onn other than confront him with his past by having yet another group of Martian refugees or White Martians show up. I mean, jesus christ, change the ****ing record. He should be an anti-hero.

He has a badass powerset with a glass chin and big mouth. Worst combination.

He should have Cassandra Nova's attitude, but with good intentions. Greater good and all that.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW




Wait, his shapeshifting powers are that good...?





https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/62547/3658869-martian%20manhunter%2032.1%20-%20body%20not%20responding%20completely.jpg
.....

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/62547/3658868-martian%20manhunter%2032.3%20-%20j%27onn%20transmutes.jpg

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Diana and J'onn are good for fighting low metas.

Batman is the real threat here, as he can tell the team what to do. Without him, they're all clueless clowns.

https://i.postimg.cc/Cx4X4r6r/MfXf3zV.jpg

'Flash!! Do that one thing you can do!'

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
The lowballing for Hulk on the site is disgusting
Says a user from Comicvine , Lol

Originally posted by MrMind
reminds me of this thread in comicvine 10years ago where everybody was laughing at op and listing the amount of people that can solo hulk, was that also you alberto? oh good memories

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/world-war-hulk-vs-dc-universe-395208/ Alberto is like 80 years old so I wouldn't be surprised. But he may have forgotten about that thread though.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Agreed on this.

Which means they'll always win in the end. LOL..........that's pretty good and I agree.

Originally posted by carver9
I feel 100% confident that if Hulk was in DC, he would be a Justice League threat. Written correctly some members of JL could solo some versions of Hulk but he'll still be a threat, however the higher powered versions of him will definitely take the higher powered members of JL to take him down, but not necessarily required as a team to do it.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol... hulk in DC would be a Justice League villain.



Hulk in DC would be a Guy Gardner punching bag.

Originally posted by cdtm
Hulk in DC would be a Guy Gardner punching bag.

Fuk yeah

Originally posted by lawest9
Written correctly some members of JL could solo some versions of Hulk but he'll still be a threat, however the higher powered versions of him will definitely take the higher powered members of JL to take him down, but not necessarily required as a team to do it.

People not as powerful as Hulk has soloed the Justice League. Hulk in DC would most definitely solo the league and probably give some members a concussion in a single hit.

DAMAGE was soloin'g the JL and sent Superman to the hospital. People, be reasonable, and stop thinking it's a spite favor without giving any logical reason.

Stop ruining threads, you guys.

PR, what's your honest opinion about the battle?
What rounds you think he takes or the JL would take

Superman wasn't trying to beat Damage, only run the clock out. And Damage isn't Hulk.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
DAMAGE was soloin'g the JL and sent Superman to the hospital. People, be reasonable, and stop thinking it's a spite favor without giving any logical reason. Where was Superman sent to the hospital?

obvious typo

Lol okay.

A lot of members from the JL would absolutely solo in a forum setting. Not even joking this time.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
A lot of members from the JL would absolutely solo in a forum setting. Not even joking this time.

The only jokes in this thread are Carver and Alberto

I love when salty people randomly mention my name alot, it just motivates me to keep on dropping facts

It feels amazing that I'm in your thought every second mrmind LOL

Hulk could beat Green Arrow, maybe. On an off day.

Someday, J'onn's powerset is gonna come full circle when he realizes he can turn to flame just burn himself out

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
obvious typo

I know PR said to get back on topic but I'm legit curious how you called an entire sentence with perfectly spelled words(for you) a typo.

Are sure it wasn't a lie instead?

Betteridge's law of headlines seems applicable here. Hmm

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
No PIS
No CIS

in a comic with everybody operating at peak levels

Rd 1 Al Ewing writing Hulk

Rd 2 Pak Hulk


Rd 3 Morrison Superman


Rd 4 Justice league with Superman operating under his strongest writer, against Hulk operating under his strongest writer

No outside amps, no sun dip

pictured version only

https://i.postimg.cc/jCKGg0jZ/suas.jpg

Is this accurate? Yes or no.. Discuss why

I think they can't, based on your stips of no CIS and PIS.

Firestorm is in your picture. And can turn him into salt.

Originally posted by carver9
People not as powerful as Hulk has soloed the Justice League. Hulk in DC would most definitely solo the league and probably give some members a concussion in a single hit.

Not under these stips.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I think they can't, based on your stips of no CIS and PIS.

Firestorm is in your picture. And can turn him into salt.

Would it work?

Hulk has always been resistant to transmutation powers.

JLA wins

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/2532/2431543-batsbeatshulk.png

Lol

Edited scan

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Would it work?

Hulk has always been resistant to transmutation powers.

Rd 1, Firestorm creates UV radiation.
Rd 2, WWH was transmuted just fine.
Rd 3, Morrison's Superman transmutes him.
Rd 4, Carver and Abhi have their threads closed before they can continue.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Edited scan



Makes more sense in context. That's a pretty obvious pained expression, and surprise wouldn't drive the air out of your lungs.

Originally posted by cdtm
Makes more sense in context. That's a pretty obvious pained expression, and surprise wouldn't drive the air out of your lungs.

You've never been hit in the solar plexus before?

Pretty sure a three year old wouldn't cause that effect.



Which should be much more then Hulk is taking there, yet look at the effect.

So you haven't. Gotcha

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
So you haven't. Gotcha


I played contact sports, and am a dog lover.


Sure, it doesn't actually hurt. And yes, even a basic love tap could drive the air from your lungs. It's a reflex.


But an insect ain't having that sort of effect. I highly doubt a young kid can produce the effect, either. (Sure, a 10 year old can. But a 3 year old?)


And there's the matter of Hulk's pained expression.

So you want to keep using the non-canon scan edited in MS Paint by a 9 years old troll, yes?

Batman's kicks sever trees and motorcycles in halves; he's a comic book peak human (sometimes considered a low meta by the likes of Amanda Waller, even), who has a top-tier magical-esque skill to back his strength up, not to mention his batsuit armor enhancing his strikes further.

So sure, Wayne can land a lucky cheapshot like that on the unsuspecting Hulk:

https://tinyurl.com/y3dg7k55

When Hulk is ready, not even the might of your beloved Iron Fist can affect him:

https://tinyurl.com/y3dsrd6b

High evolutionary transmution failed to work on Hulk. Show me Firestorm transmuting a high tier

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Rd 1, Firestorm creates UV radiation.
Rd 2, WWH was transmuted just fine.
Rd 3, Morrison's Superman transmutes him.
Rd 4, Carver and Abhi have their threads closed before they can continue.

He have also bypassed transmutation, on numerous of occasions.

He transmuted Johnny Sorrow's mask
https://imgur.com/a/DfMIzoN

Yes, Carver, but am using Pak's Hulk, the strongest of which is WWH.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He transmuted Johnny Sorrow's mask
https://imgur.com/a/DfMIzoN

Yes, Carver, but am using Pak's Hulk, the strongest of which is WWH.

What resistant fts does Sorrow mask have?

I get what you're saying but he does have fts of resisting. Yiu mentioning the strongest Hulk is like me using Rebirth Superman almost dying from the core of Earth as a bench of durability for the character.

If I have to come back in here to remind people that crossovers aren't valid I may have to just start randomly hitting the ban button for people posting in this thread.

https://i.imgur.com/yP2wSKp.jpg

Originally posted by carver9
What resistant fts does Sorrow mask have?

I get what you're saying but he does have fts of resisting. Yiu mentioning the strongest Hulk is like me using Rebirth Superman almost dying from the core of Earth as a bench of durability for the character.

It resists Johnny's stare......

Is Rebirth the strongest Superman then or something?

What resistance feats does WWH have?

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
https://i.imgur.com/yP2wSKp.jpg Damn, that's a 3rd degree burn! crylaugh

GALAN, KNOW THAT THIS DAY YOU HAVE CHOSEN DEATH!!!!

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
GALAN, KNOW THAT THIS DAY YOU HAVE CHOSEN DEATH!!!! dur

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It resists Johnny's stare......

Is Rebirth the strongest Superman then or something?

What resistance feats does WWH have?

His mask is built for his power. Cyclops visors stop his optics but I feel confident Daredevil could damage it.

No, rebirth isnt the strongest Superman just like WWH isnt the strongest Hulk.

WWH best resistant fts? Lol... this...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111137054/3704878-savagehulkhealingfactor07v299.jpg

Then this...

https://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Durability/WWHChemical02HeroesforHirev213.jpg
https://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Durability/WWHChemical03v2110.jpg
https://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Durability/WWHChemical04.jpg

Originally posted by carver9
His mask is built for his power. Cyclops visors stop his optics but I feel confident Daredevil could damage it.

No, rebirth isnt the strongest Superman just like WWH isnt the strongest Hulk.

WWH best resistant fts? Lol... this...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111137054/3704878-savagehulkhealingfactor07v299.jpg

Then this...

https://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Durability/WWHChemical02HeroesforHirev213.jpg
https://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Durability/WWHChemical03v2110.jpg
https://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Durability/WWHChemical04.jpg

Lmao.

Read your links.

The first one - SAVAGE HULK healing factor. It's not even a transmutation feat - he pulled the spike out of him.

The next three - WWH CHEMICAL. ODG's respect thread even puts it under chemical attack. It's.....really not what you think it is.

It then even shows how he was on his knees, weak, UNTIL Amadeus made him angry to beat it. Until then, he was out of the fight.

Alberto's thread means no PIS/CIS. When he is on his knees, melting, Superman throws him into space. Hell, let's say he's super heavy, and MMH+WW+Superman all combine and throw him into space.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
DAMAGE was soloin'g the JL and sent Superman to the hospital. People, be reasonable, and stop thinking it's a spite favor without giving any logical reason.

He was visiting Damage in the hospital, lmao.

https://i.postimg.cc/sxVsXCky/RCO019-1.jpg

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
it just motivates me to keep on dropping facts

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lmao.

Read your links.

The first one - SAVAGE HULK healing factor. It's not even a transmutation feat - he pulled the spike out of him.

The next three - WWH CHEMICAL. ODG's respect thread even puts it under chemical attack. It's.....really not what you think it is.

It then even shows how he was on his knees, weak, UNTIL Amadeus made him angry to beat it. Until then, he was out of the fight.

Alberto's thread means no PIS/CIS. When he is on his knees, melting, Superman throws him into space. Hell, let's say he's super heavy, and MMH+WW+Superman all combine and throw him into space.

Weaker versions of WWH. Do you know what the Spike does when it's in you?

I'll give you the second scan. Trying to figure out why you're discrediting ALL of Hulk showings. I dont think this is how debating works.

Debatable if Firestorm powers would work and again, throw Hulk in DC and he would most definitely, 100% be a major threat to the JLA.

Originally posted by carver9
Weaker versions of WWH. Do you know what the Spike does when it's in you?

I'll give you the second scan. Trying to figure out why you're discrediting ALL of Hulk showings. I dont think this is how debating works.

Debatable if Firestorm powers would work and again, throw Hulk in DC and he would most definitely, 100% be a major threat to the JLA.

I'm not discrediting them. This is exactly why I asked about WWH and his feats. On panel, we are told WWH is the strongest/angriest Hulk there had ever been. So if attacks still work on this guy....

I mean, depending on the Firestorm you use (Alberto's pic is way too tiny lol), one version even messed with Killer Frost, and changed her cellular structure to cure her (and reversed it). EXACTLY the attack that the Gamma Corps used and was proven effective.

Another example.

Kitty Pryde made him intangible. Firestorm ALSO makes him intangible. And doesn't stop (like Kitty did - CIS/PIS is off here).

If CIS was still on, I can see Hulk winning. And to answer Alberto's thread, Hulk can win all rounds.

But with CIS off? All powers, full potential? You have MMH here, without CIS. WW, with her lasso. Firestorm.

And that's without getting into Superman.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I'm not discrediting them. This is exactly why I asked about WWH and his feats. On panel, we are told WWH is the strongest/angriest Hulk there had ever been. So if attacks still work on this guy....

I mean, depending on the Firestorm you use (Alberto's pic is way too tiny lol), one version even messed with Killer Frost, and changed her cellular structure to cure her (and reversed it). EXACTLY the attack that the Gamma Corps used and was proven effective.

Another example.

Kitty Pryde made him intangible. Firestorm ALSO makes him intangible. And doesn't stop (like Kitty did - CIS/PIS is off here).

If CIS was still on, I can see Hulk winning. And to answer Alberto's thread, Hulk can win all rounds.

But with CIS off? All powers, full potential? You have MMH here, without CIS. WW, with her lasso. Firestorm.

And that's without getting into Superman.

Agreed on your last 4 comments.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
PR, what's your honest opinion about the battle?
What rounds you think he takes or the JL would take

On paper, a fair few of the Justice League really should beat the Hulk. For all his power, his lack of versatility can really hurt him.

The counterpoint is that the Hulk has that "push through" factor that sure, while most heroes do have it, the Hulk has it to a larger extent than the vast majority of them. The problem is the guy in the red cape with the S on his chest. Superman has that "x factor" too, and arguably a higher level of it too.

Whether in a comic or in my own opinion, I just can't see The Hulk beating them all unless the JLA are having a serious off-day.