Predictions for the post-Trump future

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cdtm
Win or lose, the Republican party is on it's way out. It's all about the numbers, the Democrats have a perpetually growing base, while the base for Republicans are a shrinking demographic.


What I think will inevitably happen, is as Boomer's die off, the Republican party will shrink into irrelevancy. Meanwhile, the Democratic party will collapse under it's own weight, and splinter into a far left and centrist party. Many former Republicans will be rubbing shoulders with former moderate Democrats, and race will cease to become an effective attack strategy when a large proportion of minorities argue against the Cortiz's and other crazies.


On the positive side, this will mean great strides for race relations. The diehard alt-righties will still be a target, but they will simply cease to matter in the great narrative.

Robtard
When Trump loses in 2020, Trumpers are going to work VERY hard to pretend they were never really Trumpers, like the true cowards they are.

eg Paul Ryan. "I felt trapped!", "it was a nightmare!", "we had no choice!" etc.

Surtur
I think if Trump wins pathetic leftists(see above) will meltdown even more. It will be hilarious.

Robtard
^Surt's lashing out and projecting again. Too funny.

Surtur
TIL: Stating facts is lashing out.

"The math teacher lashed out and told his class 2+2 is 4".

eThneoLgrRnae
Originally posted by Surtur
I think if Trump wins pathetic leftists(see above) will meltdown even more. It will be hilarious.


Yes, and more than likely he will win regardless of what any bogus "polls" say.

Surtur
I'm not sure if he'll win, but I guarantee this: the response from the right to a Trump loss would be infinitely less pathetic than the response from the left to a Trump victory.

This will not be debated, anyone arguing otherwise will be deemed less intelligent than a 4 year old retarded kid.

eThneoLgrRnae
Originally posted by Surtur
I'm not sure if he'll win, but I guarantee this: the response from the right to a Trump loss would be infinitely less pathetic than the response from the left to a Trump victory.

This will not be debated, anyone arguing otherwise will be deemed less intelligent than a 4 year old retarded kid.


Well, I can't argue with that but I will say that I've already made up my mind that if, God forbid, he does somehow miraculously lose I will be blaming his loss on the dems colluding with a foreign power (Mexico) because of their open borders policies and talk and how they did absolutely nothing to help stop the flow of illegal immigration and, in fact, even encouraged it.

I will never ever stop using that as an excuse for him losing just like the dems used (and are still using it lol) all of this "russian collusion" bs to help soothe their massive-level butthurt from 2016 election.

Robtard
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Well, I can't argue with that but I will say that I've already made up my mind that if, God forbid, he does somehow miraculously lose I will be blaming his loss on the dems colluding with a foreign power (Mexico) because of their open borders policies and talk and how they did absolutely nothing to help stop the flow of illegal immigration and, in fact, even encouraged it.

I will never ever stop using that as an excuse for him losing just like the dems used (and are still using it lol) all of this "russian collusion" bs to help soothe their massive-level butthurt from 2016 election.

^While this is just a parody account from Star/fly, Trumpers will be throwing previously unimagined levels of temper tantrums and butthurt when Trump loses in 2020.

"But only Trump can fix America!!1!!"

dadudemon
Originally posted by cdtm
Win or lose, the Republican party is on it's way out. It's all about the numbers, the Democrats have a perpetually growing base, while the base for Republicans are a shrinking demographic.


What I think will inevitably happen, is as Boomer's die off, the Republican party will shrink into irrelevancy. Meanwhile, the Democratic party will collapse under it's own weight, and splinter into a far left and centrist party. Many former Republicans will be rubbing shoulders with former moderate Democrats, and race will cease to become an effective attack strategy when a large proportion of minorities argue against the Cortiz's and other crazies.


On the positive side, this will mean great strides for race relations. The diehard alt-righties will still be a target, but they will simply cease to matter in the great narrative.

Two facts:

1. The young are more conservative than generations past.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/turns-out-white-millennials-are-just-as-conservative-as-their-parents_n_5ce856fee4b0512156f16939?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAFZd2LWdIG77gJeftx7f41c-SxOrIAHFy1smR0bVrWDC_mFvppglKWz2mMil3raL- zp0PBsrAlxInWbf02n4HEcx5sxEcS2LdB1hwSg3G9D2cVSyyum
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https://time.com/4909722/trump-millennials-igen-republicans-voters/

Also, Gen Z is less likely to identify as Democrats as their older generations. A disturbing trend for the Democratic Party as well as the Republicans: third party is very likely.

I think where you got the idea that the young are becoming more progressive and more democratic is from the Democratic Party PR machine. It's lies and propoganda they keep spewing.

2. As the population ages, they become more conservative.



Both of those points added together is why I say that Democratic Party is dying out. It is in its Death Throes. Gen Z is less entitled than the Millennials, more self-sufficient, and the most entrepreneurial of any generation in history. This is going to greatly change the political landscape in the coming decades as we have a bunch of social liberals and fiscal conservatives voting in droves at the polls and taking office (that is what I am).

Also, our Gen Z folks are better critical thinkers than the older generations being able to tease out fake news and propaganda better than their older peers. While boomers tune into CNN and and Fox News to massage their confirmation bias, Gen Z peeps are scoffing at clear propaganda on social media.


The Democratic Party needs to stop it with the identity politics, move right of hardcore socialism, and stick closer to technocratic policies. If they do not make these strategic moves, they will be replaced, along with the Republicans, with a new political party.

cdtm
What about mass immigration?


From the sources I've found, it's less about economic factors then it is political. The US creating refugee's through foreign policy, and picking and choosing carefully who gets in and who doesn't (Isn't it funny how many seem to be pro authoritarian, primed to vote for statist rule?)

Mr Master
God help us all if Trump loses in 2020.

Amazing, that we're at the precipice of America's survival.

It only takes that slight nudge and the American experiment goes over, and it's over.

That 'nudge' is Socialism at our door,
and I can't believe the ultra ignorance that is welcoming that shit in.

This is what having millions of people un/ill-informed or low level educated
and/or with a limited grasp of the english language is leading to ...

An anti-american like Alexandria Occasional Cortex
and an anti-semite like Ilhan Nur Said Elmi, (brother f*cking, husband stealing c*nt)
or the other Jew hater, Ra-shit Talib ...

... are all voted into congress by the simpletons in our midst.

To make matters worse,
we have intelligent folks on the left that seem to be using their stinky crevice as a brain,
OR,
it's pure devilry and self-interests outweigh the country's.

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Obama was a joke and did nothing but degrade the country's position in the world,
but daaaamn, he would be considered almost conservative next to these clowns.

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Trump 2020 baby!

Anyone trying to force me to pay for an illegal immigrant's healthcare can suck my d*ck first. thumb up

eThneoLgrRnae
Originally posted by Mr Master
God help us all if Trump loses in 2020.

Amazing, that we're at the precipice of America's survival.

It only takes that slight nudge and the American experiment goes over, and it's over.

That 'nudge' is Socialism at our door,
and I can't believe the ultra ignorance that is welcoming that shit in.

This is what having millions of people un/ill-informed or low level educated
and/or with a limited grasp of the english language is leading to ...

An anti-american like Alexandria Occasional Cortex
and an anti-semite like Ilhan Nur Said Elmi, (brother f*cking, husband stealing c*nt)
or the other Jew hater, Ra-shit Talib ...

... are all voted into congress by the simpletons in our midst.

To make matters worse,
we have intelligent folks on the left that seem to be using their stinky crevice as a brain,
OR,
it's pure devilry and self-interests outweigh the country's.

-------------------------------------------------------------

Obama was a joke and did nothing but degrade the country's position in the world,
but daaaamn, he would be considered almost conservative next to these clowns.

-------------------------------------------------------------

Trump 2020 baby!

Anyone trying to force me to pay for an illegal immigrant's healthcare can suck my d*ck first. thumb up


Very well said. thumb up

Blakemore
You're all retarded no expression

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Robtard
When Trump loses in 2020, Trumpers are going to work VERY hard to pretend they were never really Trumpers, like the true cowards they are.

eg Paul Ryan. "I felt trapped!", "it was a nightmare!", "we had no choice!" etc. thumb up the bigotry and racism will be hidden for another generation. Like all collaborators, they will feel shame and people will remember they exhibited the basest of human behaviours.

Mindship
It seems some of us are more/less on the same page.

Ever since Moscow Mitch, right after Obama's first inauguration, growled, "We're going to make him a one-term president," it seemed clear that the days of the Republican party were numbered. And unless it does some serious soul-searching, and evolving, to meet the changing demographic environment of the 21st century (instead of miring itself in a fictional version of the mid-20th century), I can see it gone, evaporated, by 2100, with little more than residue remaining (just like "The South will rise again!" Yeah.). The fact is, the 1950s will be as relevant to the year 2100 as the 1850s are to us.

The Democratic party will not fare much better. Both have to deal with the issue of diversity. But whereas the Rep party is trying to ignore it, the Dems are bending over backward to accommodate 'Identity politics', and as such will fracture into (at least) two new parties: one of Radical Progressives (and IMO its antecedent currently does not see the fine line between justice and revenge -- this does not bode well for the party's future), and a party of 'Conservative Progressives'. In effect, we'll have the same 'Left/Right' dynamic we have today, just the whole shebang will have shifted more leftward (ie, relative to today).

Regardless of the players on the political stage, parties change. The partisan makeup 100 years ago is not the same as today, and it won't be the same 100 years from now.

Surtur
Originally posted by Putinbot1
thumb up the bigotry and racism will be hidden for another generation. Like all collaborators, they will feel shame and people will remember they exhibited the basest of human behaviours.

Dems will hide their bigotry and racism? But they don't hide it now, why would they hide it if, as Rob says, they win the 2020 election?

Silent Master
Originally posted by Putinbot1
thumb up the bigotry and racism will be hidden for another generation. Like all collaborators, they will feel shame and people will remember they exhibited the basest of human behaviours.

You really believe the far-left will be able to hide their bigotry and racism?

Surtur
Surely PB is not about to come feign ignorance and suggest they aren't racists and bigots...

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Mindship
It seems some of us are more/less on the same page.

Ever since Moscow Mitch, right after Obama's first inauguration, growled, "We're going to make him a one-term president," it seemed clear that the days of the Republican party were numbered. And unless it does some serious soul-searching, and evolving, to meet the changing demographic environment of the 21st century (instead of miring itself in a fictional version of the mid-20th century), I can see it gone, evaporated, by 2100, with little more than residue remaining (just like "The South will rise again!" Yeah.). The fact is, the 1950s will be as relevant to the year 2100 as the 1850s are to us.

The Democratic party will not fare much better. Both have to deal with the issue of diversity. But whereas the Rep party is trying to ignore it, the Dems are bending over backward to accommodate 'Identity politics', and as such will fracture into (at least) two new parties: one of Radical Progressives (and IMO its antecedent currently does not see the fine line between justice and revenge -- this does not bode well for the party's future), and a party of 'Conservative Progressives'. In effect, we'll have the same 'Left/Right' dynamic we have today, just the whole shebang will have shifted more leftward (ie, relative to today).

Regardless of the players on the political stage, parties change. The partisan makeup 100 years ago is not the same as today, and it won't be the same 100 years from now. thumb upCertainly a very possible and far healthier scenario.

Mindship
Originally posted by Putinbot1
thumb upCertainly a very possible and far healthier scenario. Ofc, other factors also need to be considered, eg, technological advancements (and assuming we don't destroy ourselves); and perhaps also a recognition that there may be a natural limit to wealth disparity, a threshold that, once crossed, triggers the cycle of:

1. Revolution to overthrow the 'old' corrupt power structures.
2. New power structures put in place.
3. Corruption of the these 'new' power structures over time.
4. See #1.

Humans. - sigh -

Emperordmb
Originally posted by Mindship
The Democratic party will not fare much better. Both have to deal with the issue of diversity. But whereas the Rep party is trying to ignore it, the Dems are bending over backward to accommodate 'Identity politics', and as such will fracture into (at least) two new parties: one of Radical Progressives (and IMO its antecedent currently does not see the fine line between justice and revenge -- this does not bode well for the party's future), and a party of 'Conservative Progressives'. In effect, we'll have the same 'Left/Right' dynamic we have today, just the whole shebang will have shifted more leftward (ie, relative to today).
Sounds disturbing, I'd rather not be like the UK with the so called "Conservatives" and the proto-Marxist Labour party.

Mindship
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Sounds disturbing, I'd rather not be like the UK with the so called "Conservatives" and the proto-Marxist Labour party. It's all relative (ie, what's 'Left' and 'Right'). Certainly, the one predictable aspect is, the future will not be like anything we are currently predicting. Consider how different the beginning of the 20th century was from its closing. Given the accelerating rate of tech innovation (and how that will affect us on so many levels), I think it's safe to say that the difference between the beginning and end of the 21st century will be even more extreme.

SquallX
Originally posted by Putinbot1
thumb up the bigotry and racism will be hidden for another generation. Like all collaborators, they will feel shame and people will remember they exhibited the basest of human behaviours.

Enough with the racism stance, its outdated.

Name me one Black individual since Trump became President have been negatively impacted due to racism, and not because of their shitty life styles and choices.

Robtard
Originally posted by Surtur
Dems will hide their bigotry and racism? But they don't hide it now, why would they hide it if, as Rob says, they win the 2020 election?
Originally posted by Silent Master
You really believe the far-left will be able to hide their bigotry and racism?

^ Look kids, the rare and elusive tag-team strawman argument. Sssshhh. Don't want to frighten it.

Mr Master
Originally posted by SquallX
Enough with the racism stance, its outdated.

Name me one Black individual since Trump became President have been negatively impacted due to racism, and not because of their shitty life styles and choices.
Black and Latino unemployment is at a record low yet again during Trump's administration.

uhh, also, more black youths (18-24) are working right now than in all recorded history.

Prison Reform Act (affecting mostly blacks) was passed by Trump.

etc, etc ...

That's reversed reverse racism.

LordofBrooklyn
Originally posted by Robtard
When Trump loses in 2020, Trumpers are going to work VERY hard to pretend they were never really Trumpers, like the true cowards they are.

eg Paul Ryan. "I felt trapped!", "it was a nightmare!", "we had no choice!" etc.

I GUARANTEE TRUMP WINS AGAIN!!!!

PLACE YOUR BET ANTIFA SCUM!!!!

Surtur
Originally posted by Robtard
^ Look kids, the rare and elusive tag-team strawman argument. Sssshhh. Don't want to frighten it.

^Now he's triggered over facts. Yikes smile

eThneoLgrRnae
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
I GUARANTEE TRUMP WINS AGAIN!!!!

PLACE YOUR BET ANTIFA SCUM!!!!


Little robbie is trying so hard at pretending to be so confident that Trump is gonna lose in 2020. It's so adorable. the truth is he and every other Trump-hater is probably scared shitless.

His "Trump has already lost" act kinda reminds me of how he and pretty much every other lefty on this forum was so certain Hillary had the 2016 election in the bag. Some people never learn.

BackFire
A democratic will probably be the next president after trump.

Long term I think within maybe 30 or 40 years there will be a massive paradigm shift within the electorate and the Republican Party will cease to exist. I think the Democratic Party will essentially become the new party if traditional values and kind of take their place minus all the religious horse shit and a new legitimately left wing party will come into play and become a major player.

cdtm
If Islam continues its trend of working into the Democratic party, religion will play a very big role indeed.

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