John wick vs Jason Bourne

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marcssands14
H2h only. Fight set on the top of empire state building and is a deathmatch. Who survives/wins?

marcssands14
Lol. This is the wrong forum. Can a mod move this to movie vs

BruceSkywalker
Wick stomps anyway

Vanguard
Hth might go with Bourne. With any kind of weapon Id go Wick. Killed a man with a pencil

Juk3n
Bourne. Wick has been matched on numerous occasions.

Josh_Alexander
Bourne. Wick isn't that OP in H2H.

Lestov16
Bourne would win any unarmed, melee, or firearm confrontation. John Wick is a good assassin, but Bourne is The Ultimate Assassin.

marcssands14
Damn. I thought Wick was pretty good in h2h when he fought that discount Bruce Lee in Parabellum lol.

KingD19
John has at this point taken more damage and shrugged it off than Bourne can deliver in h2h. Got hit by multiple cars, shot off a roof, etc... He always just got up and kept truckin'.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by KingD19
John has at this point taken more damage and shrugged it off than Bourne can deliver in h2h. Got hit by multiple cars, shot off a roof, etc... He always just got up and kept truckin'.

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I don't see Wick replicating that.

KingD19
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
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I don't see Wick replicating that.

Did you read my post? I said Wick has taken more damage than Bourne can dish out in h2h. I never said he can hit hard in a fight. He's more skill and technique than strength. He got hit by multiple cars and got right back up. He got shot off a multi-story roof, bounced off a fire escape on the way down, and was gone before the Adjudicator could look over the edge of the roof. Wick is a f*cking tank.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by KingD19
Did you read my post? I said Wick has taken more damage than Bourne can dish out in h2h. I never said he can hit hard in a fight. He's more skill and technique than strength. He got hit by multiple cars and got right back up. He got shot off a multi-story roof, bounced off a fire escape on the way down, and was gone before the Adjudicator could look over the edge of the roof. Wick is a f*cking tank.

Sure, but Bourne is a tank killer.

I'd give Wick the durability victory, but in terms of punching strength, agility and fighting skills, Bourne takes the leadership.


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Consider that these are highly skilled gobernment agents, not random killers with questionable training.

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Psychotron
Wick, easily.

Putinbot1
Even hand to hand it's debateable. Bourne is injured far more easily and I just can't see him stopping Wick before Wick damages him. The Bourne movies are far better, the only good Wick film was the first one.

Robtard
Agreed, John Wick has shown far greater cartoon-like qualities than Jason Bourne, he'd win this.

Though the Bourne franchise is far superior to the Wick franchise is terms on quality.

h1a8
Using real world mechanics of human durability then Jason wins.


Using the unrealistic mechanics of John Wick universe then Jason wins again (as he has access to the mechanics too).

KingD19
Not true. Bourne never showed feats of Wick's magnitude, so even if he gets John's worlds physics, he doesn't automatically get Wick levels of durability.

carthage
Wick stomps

TheVaultDweller
Good fight. Both these guys are excellent marksman and hand to hand combatants, and incredibly tough individuals overall. And both can do the assassin teleport trope (they even kind of poke fun at it during the final fight of JW3). As things stand, I'd probably back Wick because he seems made of rubber nowadays (the 2nd and 3rd movies together are virtually a continuous gauntlet, with a handful of timeouts in between), but I could be convinced otherwise by a compelling argument.

marcssands14
Bump. Another battle . Could wick take out all the bourne's toughest enemies including the Pfroessor

Lestov16
Originally posted by KingD19
Not true. Bourne never showed feats of Wick's magnitude, so even if he gets John's worlds physics, he doesn't automatically get Wick levels of durability.

What makes you think Wick is on his level of durability? At the end of Ultimatum, Bourne got in multiple car crashes, got shot, fell off a 10 story building, and still was able to swim away. Wick has taken shots and been hit by cars, but he was far worse for the wear. Bourne is just far more elite trained, to the point that he really is less of a human and more of a killing machine with a supercomputer brain. His mind immediately determines the most efficient method to subdue someone in any situation and he does it. Wick is a trained martial artist and marksman, but Bourne was specifically trained to be THE ULTIMATE CQB specialist. He is absolutely faster, more durable, and more efficient in H2H, and has shown both pinpoint accuracy and lightning reflexes with firearms, to the point that he can ambidextrously shoot guns upside down and nail headshots while falling. Quite simply, Bourne is tougher and more importantly, smarter, so while Wick may be a challenge, Bourne should ultimately come out victorious.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Good fight. Both these guys are excellent marksman and hand to hand combatants, and incredibly tough individuals overall. And both can do the assassin teleport trope (they even kind of poke fun at it during the final fight of JW3). As things stand, I'd probably back Wick because he seems made of rubber nowadays (the 2nd and 3rd movies together are virtually a continuous gauntlet, with a handful of timeouts in between), but I could be convinced otherwise by a compelling argument.

What H2H feats does Wick have? What h2h feats that matter anyway, as I don't recall Wick ever engaging into h2h with anyone that has the level of experience and skill Bourne has.

This is h2h. Wick's durability won't matter if Bourne hits him 30 times per minute in a 5 minutes fight.

Jmanghan
Originally posted by Vanguard
Hth might go with Bourne. With any kind of weapon Id go Wick. Killed a man with a pencil Is it suddenly hard to kill someone with a pencil...?

Jmanghan
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
What H2H feats does Wick have? What h2h feats that matter anyway, as I don't recall Wick ever engaging into h2h with anyone that has the level of experience and skill Bourne has.

This is h2h. Wick's durability won't matter if Bourne hits him 30 times per minute in a 5 minutes fight. -1zLU5N6uBU
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Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Jmanghan
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See what I mean? Those guys are beating the holy shit out of Jonathan. They also admire John and were clearly holding back.

If those guys had John on his ass, then Bourne will demolish him.

TheVaultDweller
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
What H2H feats does Wick have? What h2h feats that matter anyway, as I don't recall Wick ever engaging into h2h with anyone that has the level of experience and skill Bourne has.

That exact same argument applies to Bourne. No one he has fought has the actual onscreen feats that Wick does.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander

This is h2h. Wick's durability won't matter if Bourne hits him 30 times per minute in a 5 minutes fight.

If you really believe that Bourne will land a clean blow every 2 seconds, 150 times in a row, without fault, then we might as well stop here. Because, IMO, you either vastly overrate Bourne or vastly underrate Wick.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
That exact same argument applies to Bourne. No one he has fought has the actual onscreen feats that Wick does.



If you really believe that Bourne will land a clean blow every 2 seconds, 150 times in a row, without fault, then we might as well stop here. Because, IMO, you either vastly overrate Bourne or vastly underrate Wick.

Have you watched the Bourne movies? Bourne has fought opponents in h2h that are way more impressive than the ones Wick has and come victorious.

Wick has had his ass handled in h2h by opponents of less skill than Bourne.

So I ask again, based on what does Wick win this?

NotAllThatEvil
Originally posted by Vanguard
Hth might go with Bourne. With any kind of weapon Id go Wick. Killed a man with a pencil
Ignoring what Jason did with a pen, are we?

Marikina
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Ignoring what Jason did with a pen, are we?

Jason also used a book as a weapon over a decade before John did:

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