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considering mmh can oneshot odinson and superboy was beating the crap out of mmh there

maybe thor with the help of old king thor would have a better chance here

Kon appeared again? Great.

That's an old scan. It was reposted a million times.

You are ignoring us, homie.

Lol Oh J'onn. He's the OG Scrub. Yeah Thor bakes him a Mjolnir biscuit, and shoves it firmly up his ass.

When did MM one shot Thor?

Originally posted by lawest9
When did MM one shot Thor?

That's not what Mr Mind said.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
That's not what Mr Mind said. He said considering "MMH can one shot Thor".......I assumed the possiblity that it may have hsppened in some crossover.

Intercompany crossovers are against the rules here, so better not to bring that up.

I didn't bring it up, I asked a question.

Happened once when MMH was impersonating Captain America.

Oh, and Bishop destroying MMH in the pure melee combat happened, too

This is why we have a ruling against crossovers.

Originally posted by lawest9
When did MM one shot Thor?

Superman can one-shot Daredevil. You gonna ask me when did that happen?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Happened once when MMH was impersonating Captain America.

Oh, and Bishop destroying MMH in the pure melee combat happened, too

This is why we have a ruling against crossovers.

I recall him hurting Thor, not KOing. Stunning yeah, but not KOed. Been a while though.

But I'd say the real reason they're not allowed is because people will ***** and fight even more than now. It's not like similar and worse things don't happen in regular comics, or that the norm is poor showings happen in crossovers.

Originally posted by Delta1938
I recall him hurting Thor, not KOing. Stunning yeah, but not KOed. Been a while though.

Would need to re-read, too.

As I was saying, I thought Mr Mind was talking about MMH's potential to KO Thor... as he's had some good strength feats in the new continuity, such as the Brainiac Ship - shared feat, but still.

Originally posted by Delta1938
But I'd say the real reason they're not allowed is because people will ***** and fight even more than now. It's not like similar and worse things don't happen in regular comics, or that the norm is poor showings happen in crossovers.

Well, that and the canonicity of said crossovers is highly questionable...

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Happened once when MMH was impersonating Captain America.

Oh, and Bishop destroying MMH in the pure melee combat happened, too

This is why we have a ruling against crossovers. I remember seeing scans of the MM and Thor incident but it didn't show if Thor's lights were out from that one punch or not which was why I asked to be sure, I remember Bishop handling MM as well, a lot of PIS writing goes on in crossovers..........Logan beating Lobo Alrhough fan voted as well as Storm beating Diana ) Surfer onesided beatdown of Orion, Venom knocking Superman around just to name a few.

Wise decision for this forum not to use crossovers.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Superman can one-shot Daredevil. You gonna ask me when did that happen? Of course not, that would be an obvious and sensible conclusion, but it would be different between MM and Thor because they are much closer together in power, so Daredevil/Supes is a very silly analogy to make, and since we don't use crossovers here then why assume that MM can one shot Thor? that's all.

Lobo got beaten by much less than Logan's bone claws (which can bust through Onslaught's forcefields, lol).

He's a toonforce character, he doesn't have a fixed power level.

One day he'll be schooling Superman, the other day he'll be getting sodomized by Bueno Excellente.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Lobo got beaten by much less than Logan's bone claws (which can bust through Onslaught's forcefields, lol).

He's a toonforce character, he doesn't have a fixed power level.

One day he'll be schooling Superman, the other day he'll be getting sodomized by Bueno Excellente. So it would appear.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
That's an old scan. It was reposted a million times.

You are ignoring us, homie. Liar.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Liar.

You should've seen the full scene.

Manchester actually sits on MMH's face (he's knocked out) and ignites his cigarette

Nobody respects Manhunter, not even DC.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You should've seen the full scene.

Manchester actually sits on MMH's face (he's knocked out) and ignites his cigarette

Nobody respects Manhunter, not even DC. What comic? That sounds like something worth checking out.

Vingthor the Hurler

Originally posted by lawest9
Of course not, that would be an obvious and sensible conclusion, but it would be different between MM and Thor because they are much closer together in power, so Daredevil/Supes is a very silly analogy to make, and since we don't use crossovers here then why assume that MM can one shot Thor? that's all.

It's to illustrate a point. Whether someone is right or wrong, just because they can argue DC Character X can one-shot Marvel Person Y doesn't mean it's happened in a cross over. You assuming someone likely used a crossover is just as silly as my analogy.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Would need to re-read, too.

As I was saying, I thought Mr Mind was talking about MMH's potential to KO Thor... as he's had some good strength feats in the new continuity, such as the Brainiac Ship - shared feat, but still.



Well, that and the canonicity of said crossovers is highly questionable...

This is all we see and we don't see Thor again for a while.

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So, maybe he did KO him. (Shrugs)

As for canonicity, not factoring in so much change by now, some of the crossovers were definitely Canon at the time. It's not even questionable. But the mods won't allow them regardless unless it's the topic itself. Not sure though if this applies to like the Image/ALIENS stuff where that was a big event that changed things.

Originally posted by Delta1938
It's to illustrate a point. Whether someone is right or wrong, just because they can argue DC Character X can one-shot Marvel Person Y doesn't mean it's happened in a cross over. You assuming someone likely used a crossover is just as silly as my analogy. Then what is the source of your statement "considering mmh can one shot thor" based off of?

Originally posted by lawest9
Then what is the source of your statement "considering mmh can one shot thor" based off of?

.....you need it spelled out for you? That's why I brought up Superman one-shoting Daredevil. I can make this argument based on their respective appearances. I'm not saying the guy is right saying J'onn one-shots Thor, I said he can come to the conclusion on his own without crossovers. You should have asked him what makes him think that, not if it happened.

Originally posted by Delta1938
.....you need it spelled out for you? That's why I brought up Superman one-shoting Daredevil. I can make this argument based on their respective appearances. I'm not saying the guy is right saying J'onn one-shots Thor, I said he can come to the conclusion on his own without crossovers. You should have asked him what makes him think that, not if it happened. I asked him that which I asked, my main focal points was 1. they claimed that which happened in a crossover cannot be used on this forum for getting one's point across, 2.using Superman one shotting Daredevil was a very poor analogy given the vast difference in power, while Thor and MM are much more evenly matched.

That was earlier yesterday when we had this brief discussion and it's not at all that crucial to me to keep it going at this point.

Originally posted by lawest9
I asked him that which I asked, my main focal points was 1. they claimed that which happened in a crossover cannot be used on this forum for getting one's point across,
.

Wait, what? Do you still think MrMind said J'onn one-shot Thor in a crossover? If so, this is what he said.

Originally posted by MrMind
considering mmh can oneshot odinson

"Can oneshot." Can, "has oneshot." While it can be taken as he's saying it's happened, that's an assumption. He never explicitly said MMH and I believe that's not what he meant based on what he said and other factors.

Originally posted by lawest9

2.using Superman one shotting Daredevil was a very poor analogy given the vast difference in power, while Thor and MM are much more evenly matched.

That was earlier yesterday when we had this brief discussion and it's not at all that crucial to me to keep it going at this point.

I used such an extreme example to illustrate my point. That it's dumb to assume they're referring to something that happened in a crossover because they state their opinion. If you actually need me to explain this, I understand why you thought he HAD to be referencing a crossover.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
What comic? That sounds like something worth checking out.

Don't remember. One of MMH's early New52 appearances.

Originally posted by Delta1938
This is all we see and we don't see Thor again for a while.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/3dAvcyYQI69hvyqP1z-DWFUqDc9UgAdOjXDxPprmIzXezIn_kj8z_7QUHDGWvIhFTIME-kKjLzSW=s1600

So, maybe he did KO him. (Shrugs)

As for canonicity, not factoring in so much change by now, some of the crossovers were definitely Canon at the time. It's not even questionable. But the mods won't allow them regardless unless it's the topic itself. Not sure though if this applies to like the Image/ALIENS stuff where that was a big event that changed things.

Yeah, it could've been a flash-ko, there's no way to be sure.

Iirc, it was canon to DC, but Marvel side didn't acknowledge it? Lots of problems with intercompany crossovers.

Anyway, the rule is not getting changed any time soon...

Originally posted by Delta1938


"Can oneshot." Can, "has oneshot." While it can be taken as he's saying it's happened, that's an assumption. He never explicitly said MMH and I believe that's not what he meant based on what he said and other factors.

Thor Stomps i think

you are a disgrace to your username and avatar

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Yeah, it could've been a flash-ko, there's no way to be sure.

Iirc, it was canon to DC, but Marvel side didn't acknowledge it? Lots of problems with intercompany crossovers.

Anyway, the rule is not getting changed any time soon...

Marvel had a couple examples. I saw it directly referenced by Living Tribunal in X-MEN ADVENTURES or whatever it was(assuming LT is still the same LT) and one of the Handbooks chronicling alternate universe based stuff notes the Amalgam Universe as part of the Marvel multiverse.

But I don't see it as that much more problematic than regular comics, the issue is low showings are more noticeable due to the crossovers being shorter and higher profile, and people don't want their preferred characters losing.

X-Men Adventures was based on TAS, it's not canon.

The Acces stories are canon. Period. As are JLA/Avengers. Most of the previous crisis ones are fit into JLA/Avengers merged multiverse.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
X-Men Adventures was based on TAS, it's not canon.

Did you not read what I said?

It's a bad example to use, period.

Don't make me come in here

Pun intended

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
It's a bad example to use, period.

AlbertoJohnAvil level fail.

I feel like I'm stuck in a loop here! The thread is "Thor vs. Superboy" not "Are some crossovers canon?"

I entered this thread for good old-fashioned VS debating after catching up on all the weird Mr. Master drama, and now Delta is really using one of Mr. Master's favorite arguments about that damn Adventures of X-Men comic?

Panther is claiming Access stuff is canon?? So Amalgam is canon? Is Quick Freeze canon? I feel like I'm losing my damn mind!

....Superboy 6/10
Spider-Man>Logan
Suck it Stilt
(Good thread)

superboy beats him senseless