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Who has the best top tier feats against opponents out of the 3
and Why

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No amps

What is Thor doing here?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
What is Thor doing here?

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Hzg59N7QBgI/maxresdefault.jpg

What the phuck even is a 'top tier feat'?

Supes and Thor feats overall > Hulk.

Hulk cant do as much due to the nature of his power set.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Supes and Thor feats overall > Hulk.

Hulk cant do as much due to the nature of his power set.

Hulk is slated to kill Franklin, and eat the Galactus Force. Hulk hands broke Thor head. Don't ever forget that feeling. They should make a Thor head toy, so we can practice feeling like Hulk.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
What the phuck even is a 'top tier feat'?



You'll get used to Alberto. He's epic.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
What the phuck even is a 'top tier feat'?

Top Earth hero/villain, or space character within said demographic.

Originally posted by Stoic
Hulk is slated to kill Franklin, and eat the Galactus Force.
Really? That sounds interesting.
How is that a feat for Hulk though? Its not even out yet.

It's an alt future Hulk.

In the end, Hulk eats the entirety of the Marvel Universe.

I have foretold it many times.

Err...

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Err...

Thor and his Asgard were nothing more than an appetizer served before the main meal.

That sounds dumb.

Superman > Mjolnir > Hulk >>>>>>>>>>>Thor.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
That sounds dumb.


Hulk will eat you, too.

From what I've seen, in general Thor's highs end feats can compete with Supes's. BUT when we start talking specifically about showings against uber opponents, I'd say Supes definitely has the edge.

You still live in 2005, goober.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You still live in 2005, goober.
Supes's feats haven't really increased in quality by all that much since then and Thors high end feats still exist even if he's currently being written like a chump. Thus is a simple comparison of general feats I'd still put the two into the same category. Waters become a lot more muddied talking about things other than simple high end feat comparisons though.

We've mythbusted his old feats, too

Focus on Surfer or something. Thor is a lost case.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
We've mythbusted his old feats, too

Focus on Surfer or something. Thor is a lost case.
You know, people talking about "Mythbusting" a lot on KMC, but it almost never really happens. The fact that a scene or feat can be interpreted in a less impressive manner doesn't "bust" something that may be a "myth". Busting a myth means definitively proving that the myth is WRONG, not that the person talking is interpreting things differently than someone else would like. Those things may seem very similar, but they're different in all the right ways when it comes to logic...

Remember the show Mythbusters? They didn't declare something "Busted" unless they felt they definitively proved that the myth was virtually impossible. Anything short of that was decreed "Plausible".

Thor and hulk have the better feats.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Supes's feats haven't really increased in quality by all that much since then and Thors high end feats still exist even if he's currently being written like a chump. Thus is a simple comparison of general feats I'd still put the two into the same category. Waters become a lot more muddied talking about things other than simple high end feat comparisons though.


Chump? Pshhh.. He one-shot massively amped Malekith. Well not exactly one shot, but close to it.
This Malekith had his own version of the Necro-Sword.
He also went Optimus Prime on Malekith's armies and almost single-handedly turned the tide of the war. U could almost hear "you've got the touch... you've got the powaaa..." playing in the background.

Pffft Punisher could've done the same with a minigun and loads of ammo

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Chump? Pshhh.. He one-shot massively amped Malekith. Well not exactly one shot, but close to it.
This Malekith had his own version of the Necro-Sword.
He also went Optimus Prime on Malekith's armies and almost single-handedly turned the tide of the war. U could almost hear "you've got the touch... you've got the powaaa..." playing in the background.
I didn't say he WAS, I said even if he was. Thor's not a character I'm following in depth so I honestly don't know how he's being treated from issue to issue. But I decided not to make an issue of it because it was irrelevant to the point that I was making which was simply that any ridiculous highs from previous eras are still valid for the purpose of threads like this.

Personally, I've been really impressed with some of the stuff I've seen Thor do in more recent times. That whole thing where him and Gor were f*cking up planets that they weren't even on by raining physical blows on each other is strait up CRAZY when you think about it. I've seen people act like DD and Supes causing world wide disturbances during their fight was at least fairly impressive and the Thor/Gor thing blows the Supes/DD damage out of the water(at least in the specific regard of collateral damage done).

Oh.. Got me there.


World Shatterer Thor is so 7 yrs ago. He's done way crazier shiet since then. Keep up.

I'm giving this to Thor. He have the best solid fts imo.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Supes's feats haven't really increased in quality by all that much since then and Thors high end feats still exist even if he's currently being written like a chump. Thus is a simple comparison of general feats I'd still put the two into the same category. Waters become a lot more muddied talking about things other than simple high end feat comparisons though.
Wanna bet?

Originally posted by JBL THE GREAT
Thor and hulk have the better feats. Originally posted by carver9
I'm giving this to Thor. He have the best solid fts imo.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Wanna bet?
Bet about what exactly?

That Superman's feats have increased in quality?

Originally posted by darthgoober
I didn't say he WAS, I said even if he was. Thor's not a character I'm following in depth so I honestly don't know how he's being treated from issue to issue. But I decided not to make an issue of it because it was irrelevant to the point that I was making which was simply that any ridiculous highs from previous eras are still valid for the purpose of threads like this.

Personally, I've been really impressed with some of the stuff I've seen Thor do in more recent times. That whole thing where him and Gor were f*cking up planets that they weren't even on by raining physical blows on each other is strait up CRAZY when you think about it. I've seen people act like DD and Supes causing world wide disturbances during their fight was at least fairly impressive and the Thor/Gor thing blows the Supes/DD damage out of the water(at least in the specific regard of collateral damage done).
Thor destroyed no planet there, they fought on Gorr's planet and fell down on it from the sun.

Aaron never showed Thor on the level of destroying planets.

But since we are talking about feats, how about Superman ripping Doomsday in half.

Originally posted by abhilegend
The new Doomsday has like a force-field around it that causes things in its proximity to decay, and all that energy to goes to it.

http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/t/18769565_303848.jpg

Dr. Veritas tells Superman that while the old Doomsday that was strong enough to kill him, it was basically just a larva, and that Superman is the only one on the planet that can survive fighting the new Doomsday for more than ten minutes.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/18769567/8426847.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/18769568/5814043.jpg.html

The Justice League has an emergency meeting. Luthor says that Doomsday is on Earth because it wants Superman, and that it fled from him because it wasn't ready to face him.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/18769660/2243822.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/18769661/7111366.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/18769662/3615151.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/18769663/8523401.jpg.html

Then Wonder Woman shows up and fights Doomsday till Superman arrives on the scene. Doomsday teleports away before Superman can fight it.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/18769649/8740414.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/18769651/3088701.jpg.html
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http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/18769654/1315339.jpg.html

Doomsday shows up in India.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/18769673/7618782.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/18769676/5715370.jpg.html

Superman takes Doomsday to Venus and burns it to a crisp.

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But when he arrives back on Earth, so does Doomsday. This time Superman finishes Doomsday off by ripping it in half.

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Scans courtesy to Mr. Burns on ICT.

****ing insane showing.

Got any Thor feat to match?

Originally posted by abhilegend
But since we are talking about feats, how about Superman ripping Doomsday in half.



Got any Thor feat to match?

What makes New 52 DD a top tier.. just curious

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
What makes New 52 DD a top tier.. just curious

Hes going to say what he did to Diana. That's basically it tbh. Diana admits she underestimated him during their first encounter.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
What makes New 52 DD a top tier.. just curious
He shattered phantom zone with a punch. Originally posted by carver9
Hes going to say what he did to Diana. That's basically it tbh. Diana admits she underestimated him during their first encounter.


Underestimating somehow made Doomsday breaking both her arms? Stop trolling or I'll report you.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That Superman's feats have increased in quality?
Sure. During that general time period, he lifted infinity... what has he done to surpass that since then?

You girls and your pillow fights...

Damn bottom of the page...

Originally posted by abhilegend
That Superman's feats have increased in quality?
Originally posted by darthgoober
Sure. During that general time period, he lifted infinity... what has he done to surpass that since then?

Darth, remember to include this gif next time:

https://i.imgur.com/Nl1sHon.gif



--
Anyway, yeah... he's got plenty of nice new feats, but - historically - it's nothing new, nothing topping his old ones, unless we count shit like Solar Flare which technically is a new ability...

Originally posted by darthgoober
Sure. During that general time period, he lifted infinity... what has he done to surpass that since then?
ermm

If you're going to use THAT, how is anything Thor has done comparable to Superman in that era?

I mean, is that feat only applicable when it comes to invalidate Superman's other feats when it suits you? Can I use that feat against Thor or Hulk? With your permission, of course.

Originally posted by abhilegend
ermm

If you're going to use THAT, how is anything Thor has done comparable to Superman in that era?

I mean, is that feat only applicable when it comes to invalidate Superman's other feats when it suits you? Can I use that feat against Thor or Hulk? With your permission, of course.
He's got the World Tree thing, plus evenly matching Herc who has a stint filling in for Atlas holding up "the Heavens" or whatever. Direct parallels, obviously not. But all I said was that they were in the same general category.

No the feat's valid all the time, as ruled upon by Pr years ago. It's just that he's not the only character who's done something which is fundamentally impossible according to logic so if we hold everyone to the same set of rules/standards then there are still other heroes in his general strength range.

Originally posted by darthgoober
He's got the World Tree thing, plus evenly matching Herc who has a stint filling in for Atlas holding up "the Heavens" or whatever. Direct parallels, obviously not. But all I said was that they were in the same general category.

World Tree isn't infinite. Heavens/axis Mundi is not infinite and never mentioned as such.

How are they in general category when Superman lifted infinity and Thor didn't?

So quote where say Thor or Silver Surfer or Hulk have done anything that was like lifting infinity?

Originally posted by abhilegend
World Tree isn't infinite. Heavens/axis Mundi is not infinite and never mentioned as such.

How are they in general category when Superman lifted infinity and Thor didn't?

So quote where say Thor or Silver Surfer or Hulk have done anything that was like lifting infinity?

Yeah abhi, I know you've got issues with high end strength feat from Marvel character, I'll leave you to that. But your stubbornness does nothing to change the mind of anyone else.

All of which is actually irrelevant to the point of our(specifically your and mine) discussion in this thread. I originally said to Stilt...

Originally posted by darthgoober
Supes's feats haven't really increased in quality by all that much since then and Thors high end feats still exist even if he's currently being written like a chump. Thus is a simple comparison of general feats I'd still put the two into the same category. Waters become a lot more muddied talking about things other than simple high end feat comparisons though.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Wanna bet?

And what specifically were you wanting to bet about...

Originally posted by abhilegend
That Superman's feats have increased in quality?



Thus, unless you have something better than Supes lifting infinity in more recent times(regardless of how one feels about Thor/Herc), I was right and you lost the bet you proposed

Originally posted by darthgoober
Yeah abhi, I know you've got issues with high end strength feat from Marvel character, I'll leave you to that. But your stubbornness does nothing to change the mind of anyone else.

All of which is actually irrelevant to the point of our(specifically your and mine) discussion in this thread. I originally said to Stilt...





And what specifically were you wanting to bet about...





Thus, unless you have something better than Supes lifting infinity(regardless of how one feels about Thor/Herc), I was right and you lost the bet you proposed

Depends what you're talking about in feats.

Lifting, sure. Striking? Jumping? Speed (travel and reflex)? Durability?

Too early to call a win just yet.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Depends what you're talking about in feats.

Lifting, sure. Striking? Jumping? Speed (travel and reflex)? Durability?

Too early to call a win just yet.
Oh I'm not limiting any feats at all. If he has a feat of any sort that requires MORE power than "infinity", it can totally be considered to be an improvement. But other "infinite" feats from him can at best equal his feat which would mean he was still at the same level.

Good Trolling Goobs... people bit, but seriously Supes is Supes!

Supes doesn't lift infinity.

*Off-topic posts deleted.


panthergod and IT: please don't start doing this again... Really don't want to see either of you get banned.

Originally posted by abhilegend
He shattered phantom zone with a punch.


Underestimating somehow made Doomsday breaking both her arms? Stop trolling or I'll report you.

She would have faired a lot better if she didnt underestimate him and Heralds breaking other Heralds bones are great fts but I dont think single showings put characters on or above top tier level. The fts that puts him ON top tier level is hanging with Supes.

Actually, she did fair a lot better during their second encounter and that was against a more powerful Doomsday.

Also, doesn't vibranium absorb an infinite amount of energy? Hulk hit Black Panther one time and overloaded the Vibranium in his armor...

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/44518218/SmartSelect_20191019-193900_Chrome.jpg.html

Even Tchalla admits it is impossible to do.

Originally posted by carver9
Also, doesn't vibranium absorb an infinite amount of energy? Hulk hit Black Panther one time and overloaded the Vibranium in his armor...

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/44518218/SmartSelect_20191019-193900_Chrome.jpg.html

Even Tchalla admits it is impossible to do. What does "almost" mean?

Originally posted by abhilegend


jeezus abhi quit quoting marvel fanboys and their cringey anwers

I know it's not applicable to forum rules but just show you the knowledgable comic book writers see superman>>>>>thor and thor is slow

https://www.comicboards.com/jurgens-rc.php

RC: In your opinion, is Superman is a lot more powerful than Thor?

DAN JURGENS: Yeah.

RC: Wow. When you worked on DC Vs. Marvel and pitted Quicksilver against Flash, you guys had boosted Quicksilver up to the speed of sound while Flash was running at multiples of the speed of light or whatever . . . would you say that Superman is as many times more powerful than Thor or the Hulk as Flash is as many times faster than Quicksilver?

DAN JURGENS: Yes.

RC: Wouldn't that make Superman, like, millions of times more powerful than Thor?

DAN JURGENS: Yes.

Originally posted by NemeBro
What does "almost" mean?

Originally posted by carver9
Also, doesn't vibranium absorb an infinite amount of energy? Hulk hit Black Panther one time and overloaded the Vibranium in his armor...

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/44518218/SmartSelect_20191019-193900_Chrome.jpg.html

Even Tchalla admits it is impossible to do. So what's your angle here? That Hulk has BEYOND infinite energy because he ALMOST overloaded BP's suit?

Originally posted by MrMind
I know it's not applicable to forum rules but just show you the knowledgable comic book writers see superman>>>>>thor and thor is slow

https://www.comicboards.com/jurgens-rc.php

RC: In your opinion, is Superman is a lot more powerful than Thor?

DAN JURGENS: Yeah.

RC: Wow. When you worked on DC Vs. Marvel and pitted Quicksilver against Flash, you guys had boosted Quicksilver up to the speed of sound while Flash was running at multiples of the speed of light or whatever . . . would you say that Superman is as many times more powerful than Thor or the Hulk as Flash is as many times faster than Quicksilver?

DAN JURGENS: Yes.

RC: Wouldn't that make Superman, like, millions of times more powerful than Thor?

DAN JURGENS: Yes.

non applicable

Originally posted by LordGod
So what's your angle here? That Hulk has BEYOND infinite energy because he ALMOST overloaded BP's suit? That's also not what the scan says.

Hulk overloaded it, but BP says it was "almost" impossible, not impossible.

Originally posted by MrMind
I know it's not applicable to forum rules but just show you the knowledgable comic book writers see superman>>>>>thor and thor is slow

https://www.comicboards.com/jurgens-rc.php

RC: In your opinion, is Superman is a lot more powerful than Thor?

DAN JURGENS: Yeah.

RC: Wow. When you worked on DC Vs. Marvel and pitted Quicksilver against Flash, you guys had boosted Quicksilver up to the speed of sound while Flash was running at multiples of the speed of light or whatever . . . would you say that Superman is as many times more powerful than Thor or the Hulk as Flash is as many times faster than Quicksilver?

DAN JURGENS: Yes.

RC: Wouldn't that make Superman, like, millions of times more powerful than Thor?

DAN JURGENS: Yes.

He later said he was joking.

Originally posted by NemeBro
What does "almost" mean?

Means there are people out there that could probably replicate the showing. There are abstracts and such. I wouldn't say Hulk is the only one capable of doing that just like Superman wasnt the only one to lift the book.

Originally posted by MrMind
I know it's not applicable to forum rules but just show you the knowledgable comic book writers see superman>>>>>thor and thor is slow

https://www.comicboards.com/jurgens-rc.php

RC: In your opinion, is Superman is a lot more powerful than Thor?

DAN JURGENS: Yeah.

RC: Wow. When you worked on DC Vs. Marvel and pitted Quicksilver against Flash, you guys had boosted Quicksilver up to the speed of sound while Flash was running at multiples of the speed of light or whatever . . . would you say that Superman is as many times more powerful than Thor or the Hulk as Flash is as many times faster than Quicksilver?

DAN JURGENS: Yes.

RC: Wouldn't that make Superman, like, millions of times more powerful than Thor?

DAN JURGENS: Yes.

And Pak, the same person who was writing the most powerful versions of Superman said that Hulk would destroy him, even with an amp.

Marvel fanboys still live in denial

"But who wins Hulk versus SuperDoom? Because one would think stripped of his humanity, SuperDoom would be a little less forgiving than Clark Kent/Kal-El --"

But if it's SuperDoom versus Hulk, and Superman is all doomed out and his heart is not in charge, I think the Hulk wins because the Hulk is the strongest one there is. If all you're doing is throwing brute force at the Hulk, he's just going to keep getting angrier and angrier. Honestly, we would all lose, because if those two go up against each other, the world would probably blow up.

https://www.cbr.com/pak-explores-the-humanity-of-clark-kent-in-superman-doomed/

Originally posted by MrMind
Marvel fanboys still live in denial

Why are you so weird? Lol

Originally posted by darthgoober
Yeah abhi, I know you've got issues with high end strength feat from Marvel character, I'll leave you to that. But your stubbornness does nothing to change the mind of anyone else.

All of which is actually irrelevant to the point of our(specifically your and mine) discussion in this thread. I originally said to Stilt...

I don't have any issues with such feats. Why don't you show us where world tree or heavens were stated to be infinite. Surely you can do that?

That his feats in general are better now. Undisputable honestly.

But in that case, Superman also has better feats than Thor or Hulk and your first post in the thread is invalid. So what about it, you look like a fool either way.

Originally posted by carver9
She would have faired a lot better if she didnt underestimate him and Heralds breaking other Heralds bones are great fts but I dont think single showings put characters on or above top tier level. The fts that puts him ON top tier level is hanging with Supes. Originally posted by carver9
Actually, she did fair a lot better during their second encounter and that was against a more powerful Doomsday.


Post a feat where a herald breaks both hands of another herald in one punch. Also Doomsday didn't punch her again. Originally posted by carver9
Also, doesn't vibranium absorb an infinite amount of energy? Hulk hit Black Panther one time and overloaded the Vibranium in his armor...

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/44518218/SmartSelect_20191019-193900_Chrome.jpg.html

Even Tchalla admits it is impossible to do.
Vibranium doesn't absorb infinite energy.

Originally posted by abhilegend


Post a feat where a herald breaks both hands of another herald in one punch. Also Doomsday didn't punch her again.
Vibranium doesn't absorb infinite energy.

Zod broke Superman jaw in one hit. His arm as well.

It doesn't absorb infinite energy?

Originally posted by abhilegend
I don't have any issues with such feats. Why don't you show us where world tree or heavens were stated to be infinite. Surely you can do that?
Oh Ahbi, Thor and Herc were naught but a tangent, I was simply answering your question. I have no intention of actually debating how those feats should be interpreted with you because I know you're the type who, 9 times out of 10, refuses to accept even the possibility that his own preferred interpretation is the correct one.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That his feats in general are better now. Undisputable honestly.
That's not what the bet you proposed was at all. You said that Supes's feats have increased in quality, period. But unless you can come up with at least 1 feat that required MORE than "infinite" power, that position is faulty because that was his best feat for the era.

Originally posted by abhilegend
But in that case, Superman also has better feats than Thor or Hulk and your first post in the thread is invalid. So what about it, you look like a fool either way.
Hey, opinions vary... go ahead and think what you want.

Originally posted by carver9
It doesn't absorb infinite energy?

...

Your posts absorb infinite energy.

I'm dying.

https://tinyurl.com/y4zm6luw

Good trolling Goob. You are reaching Mr Master levels here and you don't need socks to cheer lead with JBL and Carver.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Good trolling Goob. You are reaching Mr Master levels here and you don't need socks to cheer lead with JBL and Carver.
Hey, I'm not the one who turned the whole thing into a challenge of some kind, that was abhi. Nor am I the one who wrote the feat. If Supes's had a feat that required infinite power(as lift something with infinite weight would) during that period then logic dictates he would need a feat that required more than infinite power to say that his feats have improved in quality since then.

Goob's gonna reveal his true self now:

https://i.ibb.co/8KSKKNd/goobmaster.png

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
...

Your posts absorb infinite energy.

I'm dying.

https://tinyurl.com/y4zm6luw

Originally posted by darthgoober
Oh Ahbi, Thor and Herc were naught but a tangent, I was simply answering your question. I have no intention of actually debating how those feats should be interpreted with you because I know you're the type who, 9 times out of 10, refuses to accept even the possibility that his own preferred interpretation is the correct one.

How about just one scan where either feats are supposed to be infinite. Its not about interpretation, you're flat out lying now.

Its best for any era, for any character because you can't go beyond infinity. But next time you argue that Silver Surfer beats Superman, keep this in mind.



So you chose fleeing route instead of posting proofs. How surprising.

Originally posted by abhilegend
How about just one scan where either feats are supposed to be infinite. Its not about interpretation, you're flat out lying now.


Its best for any era, for any character because you can't go beyond infinity. But next time you argue that Silver Surfer beats Superman, keep this in mind.



So you chose fleeing route instead of posting proofs. How surprising.

Nonsense, I never lie. But if you feel that is/was my intent, feel free to report me and if a mod tells me I need to I explain my interpretation even if it's something I'm not trying to push on someone else I'll totally do it. But since they're the ones who told me long ago that it's a lot better to just ignore you then give you an excuse/opportunity to lowball Marvel characters I doubt it will do you much good.

Awesome, doesn't it feel better just to concede that you were wrong instead of clinging to such a factually inaccurate statement?

Hey if you're self esteem is so low that you need a pretend win such as that go right ahead, I'm good either way.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Goob's gonna reveal his true self now:

https://i.ibb.co/8KSKKNd/goobmaster.png

Originally posted by Smoki
@Mr Master darthgoober. You smart guy should work for the marvel company. You are a legend across many comic book debating forums like crb and comicvine and naruto amongst others. I bet you could land a job as a special consultant involving all that crazy cosmo stuff. It is a pleasure to watch you post. Originally posted by Killemall
@Smoki. I'm from Comicvine and I'm well known with this same name. I can vouch for Mr M's darthgoober's fame at my site. Originally posted by Mr Master darthgoober
^^ Wow, all this back to back love for ol' Mr Mastah darthgoober ... were yall just standing by awaiting your moment? lol.
Sincerely thanx yall.
While I appreciate the recognition friends,
don't yall believe for one moment it will divert the intransigence I'm dealing with here.
So take my advice and do what I decided to do last night,
just ignore the obtuse consistancy, which means the thread is dead.
There really isn't anymore to say anyway, the evidence I presented can't be countered so ... peace and love yall.

I have no doubt a return of more unsupported personal theories,
senseless speculations and outright fallacies is imminent.

So, I'm done.

Everything comes full circle......

Originally posted by darthgoober
Nonsense, I never lie. But if you feel that is/was my intent, feel free to report me and if a mod tells me I need to I explain my interpretation even if it's something I'm not trying to push on someone else I'll totally do it. But since they're the ones who told me long ago that it's a lot better to just ignore you then give you an excuse/opportunity to lowball Marvel characters I doubt it will do you much good.

You just did.

Originally posted by darthgoober
He's got the World Tree thing, plus evenly matching Herc who has a stint filling in for Atlas holding up "the Heavens" or whatever. Direct parallels, obviously not. But all I said was that they were in the same general category.

.

At no point either of these feats have been described as being infinite in nature. Its not about interpretation, there's absolutely no proof that these are infinite.

LMAO. Is this really what you do? My stance is that Superman has better feats than Thor in general. By using Superman lifting infinity you conceded that he was always so much stronger. Unless you have some infinite strength feats of Thor, you just did a harakiri on your own argument.

Pretend win?

Originally posted by abhilegend
You just did.



At no point either of these feats have been described as being infinite in nature. Its not about interpretation, there's absolutely no proof that these are infinite.

LMAO. Is this really what you do? My stance is that Superman has better feats than Thor in general. By using Superman lifting infinity you conceded that he was always so much stronger. Unless you have some infinite strength feats of Thor, you just did a harakiri on your own argument.

Pretend win?



What's Superman track record against top tiers?
Post the showings

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
What's Superman track record against top tiers?
Post the showings
First confirm who are these top tiers?

Originally posted by abhilegend
First confirm who are these top tiers?

What?

Who do you class as a top tier

Darkseid, Cyborg Superman, Diana, Firestorm, Doomsday, Alan Scott, Larfleeze, Black Adam, Orion, Shazam, Lobo, some new gods while amped, Onimar Synn, Lightray, Orion, Sinestro etc. theres more but theyre not as "mainstream" lol

Also IIRC Omac Bizzaro was one

I class Alberto as a top tier debater

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Darkseid, Cyborg Superman, Diana, Firestorm, Doomsday, Alan Scott, Larfleeze, Black Adam, Orion, Shazam, Lobo, some new gods while amped, Onimar Synn, Lightray, Orion, Sinestro etc. theres more but theyre not as "mainstream" lol

Also IIRC Omac Bizzaro was one 😳

Originally posted by abhilegend
You just did.



At no point either of these feats have been described as being infinite in nature. Its not about interpretation, there's absolutely no proof that these are infinite.

LMAO. Is this really what you do? My stance is that Superman has better feats than Thor in general. By using Superman lifting infinity you conceded that he was always so much stronger. Unless you have some infinite strength feats of Thor, you just did a harakiri on your own argument.

Pretend win?


Hey if I'm lying I'm sure one will be along shortly to reprimand me. As for the rest... meh. You said you wanted to discuss Supes's feats improving, but now you've admitted they haven't so we're all good now. The rest isn't relevant to the bet you proposed so there's no point in continuing. Been fun though

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Darkseid, Cyborg Superman, Diana, Firestorm, Doomsday, Alan Scott, Larfleeze, Black Adam, Orion, Shazam, Lobo, some new gods while amped, Onimar Synn, Lightray, Orion, Sinestro etc. theres more but theyre not as "mainstream" lol

Also IIRC Omac Bizzaro was one
Darkseid, Doomsday, Larfleeze and Onimar Synn are not top tier by any measure.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Hey if I'm lying I'm sure one will be along shortly to reprimand me. As for the rest... meh. You said you wanted to discuss Supes's feats improving, but now you've admitted they haven't so we're all good now. The rest isn't relevant to the bet you proposed so there's no point in continuing. Been fun though


Why would anyone come to reprimand you? Carver is doing it for years now. You place more importance on you than you actually are.

So another day, another lie and you're running away again. Typical.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Darkseid, Doomsday, Larfleeze and Onimar Synn are not top tier by any measure.

ah, well the others i guess then

Superman is above trans on the tier list, Thor and Hulk are heralds level

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f95/t659442.html

Superman is literally 2 levels above those clowns and you guys are still living in your own little world trying to compare

Originally posted by MrMind
Superman is above trans on the tier list, Thor and Hulk are heralds level

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f95/t659442.html

Superman is literally 2 levels above those clowns and you guys are still living in your own little world trying to compare

you can keep crying pretending you are laughing, it doesn't mask your autism

hulk is mid-herald, period.

Lol at Hulk being mid Herald. 80" of the forum do not take that tier thread serious. It's a representation of what people think but others have different opinion. What I am saying is, that tier thread does NOT make things factual. Keep throwing it up like people are really paying attention to it. At the end of the day, people are still saying Hulk or Surfer or Thor could beat Superman.

what does this prove?
that marvel fanboys can keep being wrong?

I'm trying to figure out how you get away with the things you say? I honestly need to learn your secret. Let me go around KMC calling people Marvel fanboy and saying DC is trash. I wouldn't last a day. Mad props to you buddy.

how is marvel fanboy an insult? how about marvel fan? do you consider yourself a marvel fan carver? or are you gonna keep lying to yourself?

I consider myself a dc fan/ fanboy, I wouldn't be mad if somebody calls me out on it

we can't be calling a spade a spade now? are you marvel boys this sensitive? have you forgotten how you guys made fun of abhi for being the only guy supporting dc 6 years ago?

Originally posted by carver9
I'm trying to figure out how you get away with the things you say? I honestly need to learn your secret. Let me go around KMC calling people Marvel fanboy and saying DC is trash. I wouldn't last a day. Mad props to you buddy.

He sleeps with me, I offer him my protection.

...

Same way you were spared, carv.

Originally posted by MrMind
how is marvel fanboy an insult? how about marvel fan? do you consider yourself a marvel fan carver? or are you gonna keep lying to yourself?

I consider myself a dc fan/ fanboy, I wouldn't be mad if somebody calls me out on it

In carv's defense here, KMC has always been ultra-sensitive about the "fanboy" term.

Almost as if it meant "pedophile" or something just as bad.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He sleeps with me, I offer him my protection.


https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2f/07/0d/2f070dff8e455f5b67830c54809ef204.gif

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Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
In carv's defense here, KMC has always been ultra-sensitive about the "fanboy" term.

Almost as if it meant "pedophile" or something just as bad.
Yeah the word "fanboy" is even specifically mentioned in either the rules or rulings thread as something you're not allowed to call someone.

Originally posted by MrMind
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2f/07/0d/2f070dff8e455f5b67830c54809ef204.gif

https://66.media.tumblr.com/5e59ff7fc312c454c9fce342cea1da29/tumblr_inline_ouwuj7Dkoo1r1am60_540.gif



Originally posted by darthgoober
Yeah the word "fanboy" is even specifically mentioned in either the rules or rulings thread as something you're not allowed to call someone.

Link?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW




Link?
I actually looked for it but can't seem to find it anymore. It used to be part of the section where they talk about just putting people on ignore, but either it got edited or I'm misremembering which thread it was in. It's very possible that they pulled back the line just because so many people want to make/take things personally that it became impractical to enforce.

you marvel bois take yourself too seriously/personally
I'm just calling a spade spade

So, there's no way you're simply wrong, but that line in the rules no one remembers aside from you must have been taken out by a mysterious someone or must be in another, unknown secret rules thread?

Can't debate that logic, my friend.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
So, there's no way you're simply wrong, but that line in the rules no one remembers aside from you must have been taken out by a mysterious someone or must be in another, unknown secret rules thread?

Can't debate that logic, my friend.
It's easy enough to confirm. If you don't believe me ask Bada(who's no fan of mine) if there was ever anything in the rules that talked specifically about putting people on ignore and started out "BIASED!" "FANBOY!" and then went on to explane that calling people such things constitute bashing and putting the other person on ignore is the better option.

If Bada never actually put such a thing in the rules, he's definitely not going to appreciate such a blatant lie and will point it out as such.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He sleeps with me, I offer him my protection.

...

Same way you were spared, carv.

Lol... that protection you have on with him must be extremely strong, adamantium strong. I have no protection and I dont go around calling people Marvel fanboys and calling people bias or Marvel turds and everything else that he say.

You're all a bunch of rotten fanboys.

...And pieces of shit.

Originally posted by Galan007
You're all a bunch of rotten fanboys.

...And pieces of shit.
Hey G, do you happen to remember the section of the rules I'm talking about here?

Originally posted by Galan007
You're all a bunch of rotten fanboys.

...And pieces of shit.

🤣🤣🤣

Thor is outclassed here

Originally posted by darthgoober
Hey G, do you happen to remember the section of the rules I'm talking about here? I don't remember that specific notation in the rules, but I remember Tron policing the shit out of threads and cracking down on people for using "fanboy" back in the day... But Tron also once closed a Lucifer Morningstar thread because it "violated the religious values of KMC" or somesuch. So yeah...

Originally posted by Galan007
I don't remember that specific notation in the rules, but I remember Tron policing the shit out of threads and cracking down on people for using "fanboy" back in the day... But Tron also once closed a Lucifer Morningstar thread because it "violated the religious values of KMC" or somesuch. So yeah...
Oh no, what I'm talking about happened much later. It was after Paul and Bada were both mods already so Tron was long gone.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, drama queen for the ages.



and you think YOUR important too? I'll admit, your really entertaining. as much as you lie alot on Dc, I can't get mad, none of us are perfect, but you ARE hilarious

When did you start lecturing people on lying? Exploding stars much?

Originally posted by abhilegend
When did you start lecturing people on lying? Exploding stars much?

I bet your desperately waiting for Immortal Hulk to get another supposed low showing so i can debunk you on it again. nothing personal between us, but with comics i'm Yoda to you as Skywalker never forget that

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
I bet your desperately waiting for Immortal Hulk to get another supposed low showing so i can debunk you on it again. nothing personal between us, but with comics i'm Yoda to you as Skywalker never forget that
LMAO, what? Kid, I've forgotten more about comics than you'll ever read.

Go home.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
I bet your desperately waiting for Immortal Hulk to get another supposed low showing so i can debunk you on it again. nothing personal between us, but with comics i'm Yoda to you as Skywalker never forget that

Hes trying extremely hard to find a low showing for the Hulk. It's hilarious.

Originally posted by MrMind
you marvel bois take yourself too seriously/personally
I'm just calling a spade spade Irony.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
Irony.

You are the little doggy who follows me around

Nice to see you all getting along so well.

It makes the world go around

Indeed.

As for the topic, I feel like, nowadays, Superman and Hulk have passed Thor by, not least because Thor writers have largely treated him like shit for an extended period of time.

Who has the best feats of the two, though? I can't claim to have read every Hulk comic of the last few years, so I'm obviously not going to have all of the information. That said, from what I have seen, Superman seems to be the one with the better highs.

It's because Hulk is a bit more limited in his powerset.

He has HF feats, strength, durability.

Superman has no real HF feats, but has strength and durability feats (not saying who has better feats, let's leave that for now).

On top of that, he has speed feats (further subdivided in to flight, reflex etc). HV feats (and a subdivision, energy projection). Intelligence feats, and these are just off the top of my head.

So yeah, he's always going to have more. Hulk will have an amazing strength feat, then next week....another amazing strength feat. Then another.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Indeed.

As for the topic, I feel like, nowadays, Superman and Hulk have passed Thor by,

https://media1.tenor.com/images/5203299bc85af5055adaceb1c94c11c0/tenor.gif

Originally posted by darthgoober
You know, I've always wondered why there are still those who seem so threatened/resentful of my Goodbye Thread way back when. During that period, several posters who were almost constantly active on the forum did, mostly so friends knew that we were checking out voluntarily and didn't end up in a coma or die or something like that. It's true that as far as I knew no one else's got pinned, but that wasn't my idea or my call, Bada was the one who decided to it. Fact of the matter is, at that point I was a pretty prominent/influential member on this forum. I introduced many to the fact that you could download virtually any comic online. Before me, Mr. Master was basically considered the "scan king" but at that point I'd surpassed him and was the one that a LARGE portion of the forum would ask for scans of a particular issue. I was heavily involved in tournaments when in regards to participating, hosting, and judging. I came up with the original concept for the Battlezone(and my rules are still the ones being used by default in the Battlezone forum last time I checked). I created multiple respect threads that brought attention to characters that not a lot of members new much about. I had a horribly crappy life offline so KMC was an important retreat for me and as a result, I made a much bigger impact than the average poster did.

I realize that such things don't matter much nowadays, but at the time they damn sure did. And if you don't believe me, just ask Galan, Pr, Digi, Bada. Bran, Scoobless, Darkcrawler, Blair, Juntai, Faceman, batdude, or any number of other members who were active a lot back then.
I'm sorry that you had a crappy life offline but you're not unique in that regard. I had a spectacularly crappy life in 2012-15 and I'll not be exaggerating if I say that this place saved my life. But that doesn't gives you carte Blanche to act like a primadonna and an entitled brat to us mere mortals who dare to oppose you on anything. If you want to dish out scorn on us, be prepared to receive it. It's just that simple.

Originally posted by darthgoober
You know, I've always wondered why there are still those who seem so threatened/resentful of my Goodbye Thread way back when. During that period, several posters who were almost constantly active on the forum did, mostly so friends knew that we were checking out voluntarily and didn't end up in a coma or die or something like that. It's true that as far as I knew no one else's got pinned, but that wasn't my idea or my call, Bada was the one who decided to it. Fact of the matter is, at that point I was a pretty prominent/influential member on this forum. I introduced many to the fact that you could download virtually any comic online. Before me, Mr. Master was basically considered the "scan king" but at that point I'd surpassed him and was the one that a LARGE portion of the forum would ask for scans of a particular issue. I was heavily involved in tournaments when in regards to participating, hosting, and judging. I came up with the original concept for the Battlezone(and my rules are still the ones being used by default in the Battlezone forum last time I checked). I created multiple respect threads that brought attention to characters that not a lot of members new much about. I had a horribly crappy life offline so KMC was an important retreat for me and as a result, I made a much bigger impact than the average poster did.

I realize that such things don't matter much nowadays, but at the time they damn sure did. And if you don't believe me, just ask Galan, Pr, Digi, Bada. Bran, Scoobless, Darkcrawler, Blair, Juntai, Faceman, batdude, or any number of other members who were active a lot back then.

Gotta give you big props

huge respect for that

Originally posted by abhilegend
I'm sorry that you had a crappy life offline but you're not unique in that regard. I had a spectacularly crappy life in 2012-15 and I'll not be exaggerating if I say that this place saved my life. But that doesn't gives you carte Blanche to act like a primadonna and an entitled brat to us mere mortals who dare to oppose you on anything. If you want to dish out scorn on us, be prepared to receive it. It's just that simple. probably the truest thing posted on here in a long time.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I'm sorry that you had a crappy life offline but you're not unique in that regard. I had a spectacularly crappy life in 2012-15 and I'll not be exaggerating if I say that this place saved my life. But that doesn't gives you carte Blanche to act like a primadonna and an entitled brat to us mere mortals who dare to oppose you on anything. If you want to dish out scorn on us, be prepared to receive it. It's just that simple.
I know I wasn't unique in having a crappy life, nor was I unique in being an influential member of the forum. My point was only that BECAUSE of my crappy life the forum was actually important to me back then so I put a lot more effort into my presence on the site than most people did. Maybe because other people had hobbies outside of KMC, maybe because being on the spectrum made it more appealing to me than other posters. Whatever the reason, KMC was a huge part of my life and because of that I was a notable presence. Hell you were pretty familiar with me during my hiatus even though I had stopped posting over a year before you joined.

Originally posted by darthgoober
I know I wasn't unique in having a crappy life, nor was I unique in being an influential member of the forum. My point was only that BECAUSE of my crappy life the forum was actually important to me back then so I put a lot more effort into my presence on the site than most people did. Maybe because other people had hobbies outside of KMC, maybe because being on the spectrum made it more appealing to me than other posters. Whatever the reason, KMC was a huge part of my life and because of that I was a notable presence. Hell you were pretty familiar with me during my hiatus even though I had stopped posting over a year before you joined.


I knew about you just like I knew about pretty much everyone here on KMC. I lurked here for almost a year before joining and read pretty much every thread of past five years. Blame my OCD as to why I knew about you, not because you were famous or anything.

I knew Carv, Abhi, Quan and all the gang like months before I joined here. Does mean I respected them. biscuits

Don't put me with that crowd man.

What is going on in this thread? Seems like things are getting personal instead of talking about what the thread was made for.

So is anybody going to provide some feats for Superman or Thor?

or this is a contest to see who's more relevant on a comic forum

Peeps have seen these feats b4. Not gonna keep posting them.

Thor - Godbomb/Gorr, Celestials, Beyonders, Galactus, Chaos King, Phoenix, Glory, Surtur, Ymir, Odin(Orlog), Zelia, Amped Loki/Amped Fenris, Amped Malekith recently, blah, blah, blah, etc... Too numerous to name them all.
His showings against trans and up are above Hulk's...

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Peeps have seen these feats b4. Not gonna keep posting them.

Thor - Godbomb/Gorr, Celestials, Beyonders, Galactus, Chaos King, Phoenix, Glory, Surtur, Ymir, Odin(Orlog), Zelia, Amped Loki/Amped Fenris, Amped Malekith recently, blah, blah, blah, etc... Too numerous to name them all.
His showings against trans and up are above Hulk's...

Amped Malekith? Was he herald level or trans? What was impressive about it lmao. Gonna need to see the scan for this

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Peeps have seen these feats b4. Not gonna keep posting them.

Thor - Godbomb/Gorr, Celestials, Beyonders, Galactus, Chaos King, Phoenix, Glory, Surtur, Ymir, Odin(Orlog), Zelia, Amped Loki/Amped Fenris, Amped Malekith recently, blah, blah, blah, etc... Too numerous to name them all.
His showings against trans and up are above Hulk's...
That's actually probably true. Hulk seems to get better "feats" most(though not all) of the time, but Thor has taken down more impressive uber's when he's not actually fighting alongside the Hulk(though most of the time when Hulk is there with him, Greenskin looks to be his equal or superior).