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America's largest private coal miner files for bankruptcy

The slow death of the American coal industry has forced Murray Energy, the largest private coal miner in the United States, to file for bankruptcy protection Tuesday. -snip

The bankruptcy underscores the enormous pressure facing coal miners. A string of coal companies have already filed for bankruptcy, but Murray Energy is among the most powerful and well-connected firms in the industry. -snip

President Donald Trump's election in 2016 had raised hopes in the coal industry for a revival. The president moved swiftly to slash environmental regulations and even installed a former coal lobbyist to lead the US Environmental Protection Agency. But the deregulatory push has been overwhelmed by market forces. Coal just can't compete with cheap natural gas and the plunging cost of solar, wind and other forms of renewable energy. -snip

https://images.app.goo.gl/CF3cNvcuzNfZRfeHA

So sorry this is happening to them.

Ah, damn, kmc broke my clever thread title

Ah what was it? A shot at Trump, conservatives, etc.?

Called it, so easy.

Actual Thread Title should be "Robbie Celebrates People Losing thier Incomes thus confirming He is a HORRIBLE PERSON".

That would be a Very Accurate Thread Title.

I hope the same thing happens to Robbie.

Go To HELL You A-Hole.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
Actual Thread Title should be "Robbie Celebrates People Losing thier Incomes thus confirming He is a HORRIBLE PERSON".

That would be a Very Accurate Thread Title.

I hope the same thing happens to Robbie.

Go To HELL You A-Hole.

But wait you're forgetting how the burden of losing their income could be lifted by Rob's clever title...

Screw Him. With a Big Piece of Flaming Coal!

Originally posted by Surtur
Ah what was it? A shot at Trump, conservatives, etc.?


Course it was a shot at Trump. Little robbie's day wouldn't be complete without taking a shot at our great president.

How about "Trump gave people better jobs and RTard is clutching at straws. "

I'm sure there'll be a commitment by the federal government to fund retraining for the workforce so they can get work in other industrial sectors.

I'm sure.

That's not the governments job.

Originally posted by Blakemore
That's not the governments job.

Oh Don't Worry. Once the Democrats get back in total control of the Nation....It will BE! They all ready OWN us all!

Fixed the title.

Fly is gay.

Originally posted by Impediment
Fixed the title.

Fly is gay.

You left out the Part about Robbie being a Horrible Person for enjoying people losing their jobs.

And for a Bi Guy.. You are so Homophobic.

Why the Hate Impy?

💉

God. The Pot has Really Killed your Ability to be Creative....You Poor Load of Shit You!

Originally posted by Surtur
But wait you're forgetting how the burden of losing their income could be lifted by Rob's clever title...
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Course it was a shot at Trump. Little robbie's day wouldn't be complete without taking a shot at our great president.
Originally posted by Blakemore
How about "Trump gave people better jobs and RTard is clutching at straws. "

My factual (and clever) thread title hurt three Trumpers' feelings.

I wish all the People that Lose their Jobs see this Robbie post.


And then go to his house to tell him what they FEEL about it.


Burn in HELL Robbie!

Calm down, Fly. Drink a beer. Or smoke that stuff you love.

Originally posted by Robtard
My factual (and clever) thread title hurt three Trumpers' feelings.


Sure thing, rob.


Yeah, yeah, yeah... we get it. Orange man bad, blah, blah, blah...whatever. He's still far more preferable to anyone else running.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Sure thing, rob.


Yeah, yeah, yeah... we get it. Orange man bad, blah, blah, blah...whatever. He's still far more preferable to anyone else running.

Over Andrew Yang?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Over Andrew Yang? He almost certainly hates Yang more than almost every other candidate.

Why? He’s the most reasonable, balanced, and data driven candidate I’ve seen. Bernie is too out there with some of his claims (Pure campaign promise).

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Why? He’s the most reasonable, balanced, and data driven candidate I’ve seen. Bernie is too out there with some of his claims (Pure campaign promise). Because he's a loony commie lefty.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Over Andrew Yang?


What I said is the truth; sorry if it triggers you, snowflake.


Trump/Pence 2020.

Originally posted by Robtard
My factual (and clever) thread title hurt three Trumpers' feelings.

Your title is not factual unless you can show me some pictures of workers holding a shaft.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
I wish all the People that Lose their Jobs see this Robbie post.


And then go to his house to tell him what they FEEL about it.


Burn in HELL Robbie! Calm down Fly, this is excessive.

Originally posted by Robtard
My factual (and clever) thread title hurt three Trumpers' feelings.

You're flailing, someone toss this guy a pity bingo.

Seems KMC's Trumper squad either have a very poor memory or can't face the facts.



Fact: Trump promised the return of the coal industry and coal jobs in 2016 as a candidate and again in 2017 as POTUS (edit: Seems he was still promising coal jobs in 2018 as well)

https://media1.giphy.com/media/xT4uQrP2P36nXM7tyE/giphy.gif https://media0.giphy.com/media/xUOwGkLPOAyDWIg2pG/giphy.gif


Fact: It was also said in 2016 that the coal industry is dying and those jobs would be replaced by machinery and eventually dying out as the nation moves to other sources of energy. That Trump was making a promise he knew he couldn't keep to the coal miners


Fact: 2019, coal jobs are drying up, the industry is shrinking

Originally posted by Robtard
Seems KMC's Trumper squad either have a very poor memory or can't face the facts.



Fact: Trump promised the return of the coal industry and coal jobs in 2016 as a candidate and again in 2017 as POTUS (edit: Seems he was still promising coal jobs in 2018 as well)

https://media1.giphy.com/media/xT4uQrP2P36nXM7tyE/giphy.gif https://media0.giphy.com/media/xUOwGkLPOAyDWIg2pG/giphy.gif


Fact: It was also said in 2016 that the coal industry is dying and those jobs would be replaced by machinery and eventually dying out as the nation moves to other sources of energy. That Trump was making a promise he knew he couldn't keep to the coal miners


Fact: 2019, coal jobs are drying up, the industry is shrinking

I give this post an A-

That's dadudemon-levels of posting quality.

Originally posted by Robtard
Seems KMC's Trumper squad either have a very poor memory or can't face the facts.



Fact: Trump promised the return of the coal industry and coal jobs in 2016 as a candidate and again in 2017 as POTUS (edit: Seems he was still promising coal jobs in 2018 as well)

https://media1.giphy.com/media/xT4uQrP2P36nXM7tyE/giphy.gif https://media0.giphy.com/media/xUOwGkLPOAyDWIg2pG/giphy.gif


Fact: It was also said in 2016 that the coal industry is dying and those jobs would be replaced by machinery and eventually dying out as the nation moves to other sources of energy. That Trump was making a promise he knew he couldn't keep to the coal miners


Fact: 2019, coal jobs are drying up, the industry is shrinking

I'm curious who isn't facing facts? You're arguing with yourself here. Or at the very least you aren't arguing with me.

You could do a bit about how Mexico still hasn't paid for the wall next if you'd like. I feel we'd all enjoy that.

Originally posted by Surtur
I'm curious who isn't facing facts? You're arguing with yourself here. Or at the very least you aren't arguing with me.

You could do a bit about how Mexico still hasn't paid for the wall next if you'd like. I feel we'd all enjoy that.

^Clearly not unhinged here over this thread/contents. Clearly.

Ya know, I'm not really one for politics or any of that stuff, buuut...wasn't coal pretty much going out the door as far as something profitable for a while now? So shouldn't something like this have been expected? How is this anyone's fault to start with?

It seems like this was something unavoidable in the end and nothing could really be done.

Originally posted by Robtard
^Clearly not unhinged here over this thread/contents. Clearly.

I mean yeah that is textbook "not unhinged" stuff, but I am glad you noted it for public record I guess.

http://giphygifs.s3.amazonaws.com/media/KYNywoibU1PQ4/giphy.gif

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Ya know, I'm not really one for politics or any of that stuff, buuut...wasn't coal pretty much going out the door as far as something profitable for a while now? So shouldn't something like this have been expected? How is this anyone's fault to start with?

It seems like this was something unavoidable in the end and nothing could really be done.

Probably yes, Trump was dumb to make the promises he did.

Originally posted by Impediment
Calm down, Fly. Drink a beer. Or smoke that stuff you love.

Why you so full of the hate impy?

Why do you keep parroting the same thing like a broken record?

Go to Amazon and buy a book of witty comebacks, Aretha.

Originally posted by Surtur
You're flailing, someone toss this guy a pity bingo.



lmao.



Robbie is just so darn frustrated that he's goin' to all this trouble to show just how bad orange man is and yet those of us who continue to support Trump aren't paying him any mind. He's tryin' so hard. Bless his wittle heart lol.

Originally posted by Impediment
Why do you keep parroting the same thing like a broken record?

Go to Amazon and buy a book of witty comebacks, Aretha.

Sqwak! Impy is a Cracker!

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There's another darker layer to this story it seems. There are high 10's of thousands retired coal miners getting a monthly stipend (average of $1,000.00 it seems) and medical benefits from the coal miner's pension fun, of which Murray Energy is the largest contributor.

By filing for bankruptcy, Murray Energy can now legally not pay into that pension fund anymore as they technically 'have no money to spare'. Murray Energy is also just one of 14 coal mining companies who have filed this year alone.

Fear not though, Robert E. Murray is still a high-end millionaire at least; Trump's buddy is safe.

Originally posted by Robtard
There's another darker layer to this story it seems. There are high 10's of thousands retired coal miners getting a monthly stipend (average of $1,000.00 it seems) and medical benefits from the coal miner's pension fun, of which Murray Energy is the largest contributor.

By filing for bankruptcy, Murray Energy can now legally not pay into that pension fund anymore as they technically 'have no money to spare'. Murray Energy is also just one of 14 coal mining companies who have filed this year alone.

Fear not though, Robert E. Murray is still a high-end millionaire at least; Trump's buddy is safe. Ficking disgusting.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Ficking disgusting.

Coal Miners are getting hit
Truckers are getting hit
Farmers are getting hit hard
Steel workers are getting hit

#maga

Originally posted by dadudemon
Do...do right-wingers understand that this is socialism? This is literally anti-capitalistic in the most direct way possible.

This goes against everything the right-wingers believe in. How can any justify this?

If it's socialism the left should love it. They should get f*cking boners just reading the story.

The story is over a month old though. Hey DDM, what happened recently regarding Donald Trump that you feel would cause someone to post a month old story intended to make Trump look bad? Any thoughts?

Originally posted by Surtur
If it's socialism the left should love it. They should get f*cking boners just reading the story.

The story is over a month old though. Hey DDM, what happened recently regarding Donald Trump that you feel would cause someone to post a month old story intended to make Trump look bad? Any thoughts?

Being liberal does not necessarily mean you are for socialism. A moderate Liberal for example would be in favor of impose restrictions on companies with unfunded pension plans that cannot be as easily written off with a Chapter 11. Tbh, anyone in favor of capitalism would be in favor of something closer to those lines. Maximizing the productivity of workers and reducing unemployment, through tighter regulations on corporations, isn't anti-capitalist.

I believe I said left not liberal.

Yep, there's a pretty significant difference between being left and being liberal lol.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Do...do right-wingers understand that this is socialism? This is literally anti-capitalistic in the most direct way possible.

This goes against everything the right-wingers believe in. How can any justify this?

Many republicans have to pander to coal miners because they rule a few right wing states, and if the coal miners were to vote dem in those states the republicans would lose control of the senate. And coal miners don't mind accepting socialism as long as it benefits them and only them, as is the case for most people. Socialism for me, hamstrung capitalism for thee.

Originally posted by Surtur
If it's socialism the left should love it. They should get f*cking boners just reading the story.

The story is over a month old though. Hey DDM, what happened recently regarding Donald Trump that you feel would cause someone to post a month old story intended to make Trump look bad? Any thoughts?

^ Classic Surt poisoning the well

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Being liberal does not necessarily mean you are for socialism. A moderate Liberal for example would be in favor of impose restrictions on companies with unfunded pension plans that cannot be as easily written off with a Chapter 11. Tbh, anyone in favor of capitalism would be in favor of something closer to those lines. Maximizing the productivity of workers and reducing unemployment, through tighter regulations on corporations, isn't anti-capitalist.

^ He's right you know.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Yep, there's a pretty significant difference between being left and being liberal lol.

https://i.imgur.com/yrDDXkw.jpg

Originally posted by Robtard
^ Classic Surt poisoning the well

^Bumps a topic with a month old story due to being butthurt over recent events then makes this accusation.

El oh El.

"Poisoning the well" doesn't mean what you think it means.

The thread title is still funny.

It's clever.

F*ck you guys. uhuh

Originally posted by dadudemon
The thread title is still funny.

It's clever.

F*ck you guys. uhuh

Thank you.

That clever humor managed to hurt three Trumpers' feelings. So sensitive.

Topical:

The Coal Industry Has Lost Almost One Thousand Jobs Since Trump Became President



https://i.imgur.com/tXBFdab.gif

you're so mad lol

Actually, coal miners are mad:

Originally posted by Robtard
Topical:

The Coal Industry Has Lost Almost One Thousand Jobs Since Trump Became President



https://i.imgur.com/tXBFdab.gif

bro u bumped multiple threads like this

it's not even up for debate ur butthurt

i love that u think you're being clever but all you're doing is one of two things:

-prove the mods have no teeth

-get yourself banned

I look forward to seeing which outcome occurs.

There's nothing against bumping a thread with a current on-topic story. Would you prefer I made a second and new thread on the same subject?

Keep trying to get me banned though, it's hilarious how under your thin skin I am.

they specifically spoke out against baiting

i dont want u banned, i look forward to this proving their threats have no teeth.

This is a new story about the coal industry and this is the coal industry thread:

Originally posted by Robtard
Topical:

The Coal Industry Has Lost Almost One Thousand Jobs Since Trump Became President



https://i.imgur.com/tXBFdab.gif

Have fun trying to get me banned for not creating duplicate threads and posting on-topic though, sport

It isn't bait Surt. It's news you don't like.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
It isn't bait Surt. It's news you don't like.

Of course it is, and if the mods pretend otherwise it will set a precedent. Looking forward to it.

The story is over 3 months old, how is it topical?

Originally posted by Surtur
Of course it is, and if the mods pretend otherwise it will set a precedent. Looking forward to it. Not sure what your point is there.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The story is over 3 months old, how is it topical? because of Robs update. The US is in an election and this news is interesting. It shows Trumps record is misrepresented by the right.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The story is over 3 months old, how is it topical?

Three months isn't that long ago.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
It isn't bait Surt. It's news you don't like.

Bingo

Sure, have fun trolling Surt. I'm out.

Originally posted by Robtard
Three months isn't that long ago. Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
because of Robs update. The US is in an election and this news is interesting. It shows Trumps record is misrepresented by the right.

Lol I love Rob torpedoing the mods edict cuz he can't help himself.

Originally posted by Surtur
Lol I love Rob torpedoing the mods edict cuz he can't help himself. But he isn't and hasn't.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
But he isn't and hasn't.

He has. And if the mods are willing to delude themselves into believing this was done in good faith then hey they should extend that delusion to every poster

Originally posted by Surtur
He has. And if the mods are willing to delude themselves into believing this was done in good faith then hey they should extend that delusion to every poster No, he hasn't. I'm beginning to think you guys want to pick and choose news and just misrepresent facts.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
No, he hasn't. I'm beginning to think you guys want to pick and choose news and just misrepresent facts.

He has, I'm beginning to think you have no distinct personality of your own.

Originally posted by Surtur
He has, I'm beginning to think you have no distinct personality of your own. No, he hasn't, you are on the cusp of a depression and in Election year.

I'm gonna allow you to keep pretending. Nothing will be done anyways.

Surt's derailing aside, here is the topical post/story posted today for anyone interested:

Originally posted by Robtard
Topical:

The Coal Industry Has Lost Almost One Thousand Jobs Since Trump Became President



https://i.imgur.com/tXBFdab.gif

Why didn't you post that in march when it came out?

Btw: you see how nice I am? I'm giving you a chance to explain why you shouldn't be banned.

You can even lie and say you just found out the news now. See how nice I am?

Originally posted by Robtard
Surt's derailing aside, here is the topical post/story posted today for anyone interested: read it, it's horrific. Just to add downloaded Boltons new book on my spanking new Kindle today. Looking forward to reading it.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
read it, it's horrific. Just to add downloaded Boltons new book on my spanking new Kindle today. Looking forward to reading it.

Off topic post.

Mods will come do something I'm sure.

Lol.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
read it, it's horrific. Just to add downloaded Boltons new book on my spanking new Kindle today. Looking forward to reading it.

Yep. Coal lost under Trump, he didn't revive the industry as promised. Was a stupid promise to make in the first place.

Let me know what you think when you've finished the book, in the Bolton Book thread of course.

Originally posted by Robtard
Yep. Coal lost under Trump, he didn't revive the industry as promised. Was a stupid promise to make in the first place.

Let me know what you think when you've finished the book, in the Bolton Book thread of course. Blue collar workers will always be hit hardest by the kind of bussiness man Trump is, make him President and you multiply that shit tenfold. He's interested in being a nation of shop keepers, not manufacturers. Will do mate!

Originally posted by Robtard
Topical:

The Coal Industry Has Lost Almost One Thousand Jobs Since Trump Became President



https://i.imgur.com/tXBFdab.gif

Before Trump became president, how many jobs were predicted to be lost vs. how many were actually lost?

If the data is to be represented honestly, the title should really be "Trump saved x coal jobs in waning coal industry."

Or, "Trump fails to deliver on campaign promise: coal jobs keep pace with pre-election losses."


Depending on whether or not he slowed the coal job loss trend. Coal is on the way out. It has been for a many years, now.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Blue collar workers will always be hit hardest by the kind of bussiness man Trump is, make him President and you multiply that shit tenfold. He's interested in being a nation of shop keepers, not manufacturers. Will do mate!

dur

Originally posted by dadudemon
How is it possible to save a waning industry where even the energy companies (the suppliers straight to industrial and residential consumers) don't want coal energy?

You can't save it. Only delay the inevitable.



However, if you take a look at the numbers by year, you can see the details:

Obama's last term:

January 2012: 89,700
Dec 2016: 50,500

Result in 4 years: -39,200 jobs

Trump's first term (so far):

January 2017: 50,900
May 2020: 46,600

Result in 4 years: -4,300 jobs

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CES1021210001


However, jobs were quickly growing in May. I expect June to do the same. We'll see what coal jobs look like in 2.5 months. Very bad news for the Democrats, from a voter perspective in the rust belt states, if Trump can come close to Jan 2017 job figures in a waning industry.

When Trump took office in Jan 2017 coal was at 50.9, it's gone up and down a bit since then with a peak of 52.3. He's at best put a bandaid on it as the story noted. It's now a 46.6, even if it keep going upward a little at a time all the way to November, it's probably too little too late.

It's also not what he promised the coal industry. Though it should be noted that he probably still has the majority of coal votes despite his failure to 'fully revive coal'.

"Beautiful clean coal." -Trump

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Yawn

Go to sleep then.

Originally posted by Robtard
Go to sleep then. The thing is *yawn* or false equalization or whataboutism. Is all the right have left.

1.3m more file for unemployment as US economy continues to reel

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/jul/16/us-unemployment-coronavirus-july?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy

Whirly been lying like a hot bag of shit

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
1.3m more file for unemployment as US economy continues to reel

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/jul/16/us-unemployment-coronavirus-july?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy



https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/unemployment-rate

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
The thing is *yawn* or false equalization or whataboutism. Is all the right have left.

All you have is being stuck at home bored as shit posting endless shit from the guardian thinking your making the world a better place by trying to trigger Surtur.

I mean do you realize how stupid it makes you look?

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
1.3m more file for unemployment as US economy continues to reel

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/jul/16/us-unemployment-coronavirus-july?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy


1.3 million more Americans filed for unemployment in the US last week as the economy continues to reel from. the Covid-19 pandemic.

The number of new claims has dropped over the past 16 weeks, decreasing 10,000 last week compared to the week before, though the number has hovered above 1 million over the last month. -snip

Why did those facts upset Broly?

Sorry I produced accurate numbers and your feelings are hurt.

Go try to find gold in Whirlys ass now

Your data didn't dispel his data, and vice-versa. So it was a very odd thing for you to flip over. I now suspect that it wasn't the message you had an issue with, but who the messenger was...

Originally posted by Robtard
Your data didn't dispel his data, and vice-versa. So it was a very odd thing for you to flip over. I now suspect that it wasn't the message you had an issue with, but who the messenger was...

Incorrect

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Whirly been lying like a hot bag of shit





https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/unemployment-rate

https://i.imgur.com/zkzWnCT.gif


Get out of here with your gaslighting and facts, SUPRA!

Originally posted by Robtard
Your data didn't dispel his data, and vice-versa. So it was a very odd thing for you to flip over. I now suspect that it wasn't the message you had an issue with, but who the messenger was... funny stuff.

Originally posted by dadudemon
https://i.imgur.com/zkzWnCT.gif


Get out of here with your gaslighting and facts, SUPRA!

Notice how Whirly has cow tailed and run off besides one dumb comment

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Whirly been lying like a hot bag of shit





https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/unemployment-rate

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/267/319/860.jpeg

Looks like Robtard got the shaft here

In 10 years rob will still have a job, coal miners will not.

Unless he retires, that is, because he's old.