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rd 1 moon explosion

rd 2 planet busting attack

rd 3 star busting attack

rd 4 solar system busting attack

rd 5 white dwarf star busting attack

rd 6 galaxy busting attack

rd 7 multi galaxy attack

final round: universal explosion

which rounds does he stops at

https://i.postimg.cc/N21PswwY/mask.jpg

rules: Only showings from before Mags getting depowered are applicable

lol

Uhhh could stop at 1 honestly. But on high end probably 3.

Wouldn't a solar system busting attack be above a white dwarf?

I've never heard of a star bigger than our entire solar system.

I know Philo is really knowledgeable on Mags, he would probably know best .

Stops at 1.

Wasps sting causes him to revert to a simple minded villian like KMC's hero The Toad.
Which may be some of the best Magneto.

Originally posted by Wonder Man
Wasps sting causes him to revert to a simple minded villian like KMC's hero The Toad.
Which may be some of the best Magneto.



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He has never had an above nuke level durability feat. Stops at 1.

Originally posted by abhilegend
He has never had an above nuke level durability feat. Stops at 1.

Surely he has something better than that? Not saying your wrong as I don't know but I know he has affected things on a planetary scale before and one would assume he could muster a better shield than that

If he has, I've not seen it.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Abhi is right.


🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

Just kiddin

Is there any times a powerful character has hit his Shields and the narrative quantified it?

Seeing Alberto and Magneto is how Psycho Gundam must've felt seeing Carver and Hulk or Bran seeing Quanchi and Thanos.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Can you quantify those two?

Originally posted by abhilegend
https://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/75182/5408393-6472371086-j7t54.jpg

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Magneto blocked a feedback blast from Galactus during secret wars too IIRC

OK?

Magneto can make metals that are as deadly to scale as the Sentry's VOID. Using the same creation method Sentry created Void with.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I'm serious. Phoenix at that point was Storm level in power. Cosmic spider man didn't show that much power level either.

Cosmic Spidey shattered TESS 1 w/ 1 blast. That robot was coated w/ Primary Adamantium at the time.


Cosmic Spidey beat the Tri-Sentinel. That Sentinel was considered such a threat that Spidey was made Cap U in order to counter it.

The ONLY "Superman" type of character that was CONFIRMED to have broken a PIECE of Primary Adamantium using brute strength is a Full Confidence Gladiator from the ORIGINAL Guardians of the Galaxy alternate future timeline. Even then, he did that w/ VERY HIGH DIFFICULTY and most likely lost a finger or two when he did so. It's how 1 of Wolverine's claws ended up in a Shi'ar Empire Museum.

Not even the combo of both Logan's Admantium laced claws and Cap's Nigh-Indestructible shield were able to even SCRATCH TESS 1 after that robot was coated w/ Primary Adamantium.

This is from Solo Avengers Vol.1 #11. A mercenary was using a (Primary) Admanatium garrote on Herc. Remember, Herc himself has INSANE durability feats as well as INSANE strength feats.:
https://i.postimg.cc/1f04mDhf/herc.jpg

Net page. Even w/ all his strength, Herc was NOT able to keep himself from almost getting beheaded by that (Primary) Adamantium garrote. Remember, that garrote was NOWHERE NEAR as sharp as Logan's adamantium laced claws which are laced w/ the SAME metal, but MORE than was used to make that garrote.

since Herc is on par w/ Thor in Raw Strength. In fact, in regards to Grappling and/or Wrestling, Herc's strength is 1 or more levels > than Thor's. He's even nearly choked out Thor via a grappling hold. Thor had to summon lightning to break the hold.:

https://i.postimg.cc/mc7TjsLh/wha.jpg

This is from the Official Stats for Cap U from the mid-80s to early 90s. Notice that Cap U has the Power Creation ability at such a high level that it's 1 level BELOW that of Universal level (which is rated at CL1000 for gods and/or Cosmic Entities). He can use that ability to give himself virtually ANY superpower and/or COMBO of superpowers. For example, Cosmic Spidey's base strength level while he was Cap U was in the 500 ton range. He can combine (what's called stacking) his Hyper-Strength w/ his other powers to amp his Raw Strength to levels WAAAAAY > than base.
https://i.postimg.cc/R6C2t5qk/cha.jpg

This is from Cosmic Spideys Official Stats from the Webs Sourcebook. The level of power of his Kinetic Bolt ability is sufficient to shatter Secondary Adamantium w/ up to Medium Difficulty. TESS-1 was coated w/ Primary Adamantium at least 1 YEAR BEFORE (in a Captain America Vol.1 Annual) Cosmic Spidey shattered him. Thus, when Cosmic Spidey shattered TESS-1, he was COMBINING (aka "stacking" his powers in such a way that it was sufficient to shatter Primary Adamantium. Remember, Primary Adamantium has a durability of CL1000 level, which is 4 levels HIGHER than the durability of Secondary Adamantium. Thus, Cosmic Spidey did that feat w/ High Difficulty at most.:
https://i.postimg.cc/mt7VTpgC/whya.jpg

The Cap U power itself can even bypass a Non-Weakened Juggy's powers. This was confirmed and/or explained in the storyline where Juggy (Cain Marko) became Cap U and years later in Fear Itself: The Worthy Vol.1 #2.

IIRC, Juggy wasn't Perm Weakened at the time a Cap U beat him. From the looks of it, a Cap U seems to be able to DISRUPT magic and/or magical powers to a certain extent. The fact that Juggy was NOT able to heal nigh-instantly from his injuries proves this.:
https://i.postimg.cc/nXgv7vrp/bas.jpg

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
The ONLY "Superman" type of character that was CONFIRMED to have broken a PIECE of Primary Adamantium using brute strength is a Full Confidence Gladiator from the ORIGINAL Guardians of the Galaxy alternate future timeline. Even then, he did that w/ VERY HIGH DIFFICULTY and most likely lost a finger or two when he did so. It's how 1 of Wolverine's claws ended up in a Shi'ar Empire Museum.


The fight took six days.

As for 616 canon, adamantium f*cked up Glads' shoulder, so the last thing he'd want to do would be grabbing those claws.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Cosmic Spidey shattered TESS 1 w/ 1 blast. That robot was coated w/ Primary Adamantium at the time.


Cosmic Spidey beat the Tri-Sentinel. That Sentinel was considered such a threat that Spidey was made Cap U in order to counter it.

The ONLY "Superman" type of character that was CONFIRMED to have broken a PIECE of Primary Adamantium using brute strength is a Full Confidence Gladiator from the ORIGINAL Guardians of the Galaxy alternate future timeline. Even then, he did that w/ VERY HIGH DIFFICULTY and most likely lost a finger or two when he did so. It's how 1 of Wolverine's claws ended up in a Shi'ar Empire Museum.

Not even the combo of both Logan's Admantium laced claws and Cap's Nigh-Indestructible shield were able to even SCRATCH TESS 1 after that robot was coated w/ Primary Adamantium.

This is from Solo Avengers Vol.1 #11. A mercenary was using a (Primary) Admanatium garrote on Herc. Remember, Herc himself has INSANE durability feats as well as INSANE strength feats.:
https://i.postimg.cc/1f04mDhf/herc.jpg

Net page. Even w/ all his strength, Herc was NOT able to keep himself from almost getting beheaded by that (Primary) Adamantium garrote. Remember, that garrote was NOWHERE NEAR as sharp as Logan's adamantium laced claws which are laced w/ the SAME metal, but MORE than was used to make that garrote.

since Herc is on par w/ Thor in Raw Strength. In fact, in regards to Grappling and/or Wrestling, Herc's strength is 1 or more levels > than Thor's. He's even nearly choked out Thor via a grappling hold. Thor had to summon lightning to break the hold.:

https://i.postimg.cc/mc7TjsLh/wha.jpg

This is from the Official Stats for Cap U from the mid-80s to early 90s. Notice that Cap U has the Power Creation ability at such a high level that it's 1 level BELOW that of Universal level (which is rated at CL1000 for gods and/or Cosmic Entities). He can use that ability to give himself virtually ANY superpower and/or COMBO of superpowers. For example, Cosmic Spidey's base strength level while he was Cap U was in the 500 ton range. He can combine (what's called stacking) his Hyper-Strength w/ his other powers to amp his Raw Strength to levels WAAAAAY > than base.
https://i.postimg.cc/R6C2t5qk/cha.jpg

This is from Cosmic Spideys Official Stats from the Webs Sourcebook. The level of power of his Kinetic Bolt ability is sufficient to shatter Secondary Adamantium w/ up to Medium Difficulty. TESS-1 was coated w/ Primary Adamantium at least 1 YEAR BEFORE (in a Captain America Vol.1 Annual) Cosmic Spidey shattered him. Thus, when Cosmic Spidey shattered TESS-1, he was COMBINING (aka "stacking" his powers in such a way that it was sufficient to shatter Primary Adamantium. Remember, Primary Adamantium has a durability of CL1000 level, which is 4 levels HIGHER than the durability of Secondary Adamantium. Thus, Cosmic Spidey did that feat w/ High Difficulty at most.:
https://i.postimg.cc/mt7VTpgC/whya.jpg

The Cap U power itself can even bypass a Non-Weakened Juggy's powers. This was confirmed and/or explained in the storyline where Juggy (Cain Marko) became Cap U and years later in Fear Itself: The Worthy Vol.1 #2.

IIRC, Juggy wasn't Perm Weakened at the time a Cap U beat him. From the looks of it, a Cap U seems to be able to DISRUPT magic and/or magical powers to a certain extent. The fact that Juggy was NOT able to heal nigh-instantly from his injuries proves this.:
https://i.postimg.cc/nXgv7vrp/bas.jpg

So Magneto's shields holding up against him is PIS, you've convinced me

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Cosmic Spidey shattered TESS 1 w/ 1 blast. That robot was coated w/ Primary Adamantium at the time.


Secondary Admantium.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-eCW-xyFTJns/WyAXw8qUfQI/AAAAAAAAnEs/kROHd1nBAFkbnWaE4uFFVyVwMmtY_gb7ACHMYCw/s1600/RCO054.jpg

Hercules was stated to be weakened there already.

Are you honestly trying to portray Magneto's shields as more durable than Admantium and Juggernaut?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Secondary Admantium.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-eCW-xyFTJns/WyAXw8qUfQI/AAAAAAAAnEs/kROHd1nBAFkbnWaE4uFFVyVwMmtY_gb7ACHMYCw/s1600/RCO054.jpg

Hercules was stated to be weakened there already.

Are you honestly trying to portray Magneto's shields as more durable than Admantium and Juggernaut?

No it wasn't "secondary"

Here are the Official Stats for TESS-1 that were published in '90. Remember, the Cosmic Spidey storyline was in '89. Notice where it CLEARLY STATES that TESS-1 Adamanitum. Since the Adamantium he was coated w/ was CLEARLY STATED to be CL1000 in material strength/durability, it means that it was coated w/ Primary Adamantium.

https://i.postimg.cc/4K2kPGyT/als.jpg

The Engima Force is actually Multiversal in scope IIRC

This is the Enigma Force (which talks to Cap Us via the Cosmic Awareness power) SHARING KNOWLEDGE w/ Ray Coffin who is the FIRST Cap U in the 616. Remember, the Micronauts are from a DIFFERENT MULTIVERSE in the Microverse. This is from Micronauts Vol.1 #8. Thus, it's PROOF that Cap U's Cosmic Awareness Power EXTENDS to more than just the Marvel Mainstream Multiverse
https://i.postimg.cc/JHDk0RD7/has.jpg

TESS-1 was coated w/ Primary Adamantium in Captain America Vol.1 Annual #8. But let's ignore that, eh abhi?

this is from the Old Format for Durability of Materials for Marvel.:
Notice that Admantium (it's actually Secondary Admantium) is listed as UN level in durability. According to TESS-1's Official Stats, his level of Adamantium was CL1000 in durability. Thus, it was Primary Admantium.:

https://i.postimg.cc/0zKnn8J7/ok.jpg

Unlike Abhi, I've actually READ the Captain America Annual where TESS-1 was coated w/ Primary Adamantium. Notice that 4 treatments of Seven Quarter-inch applications of that Adamantium were used on TESS-1 as explained in Panel 3. Thus it's WAAAAAY more durable than Secondary Adamantium.:
https://i.postimg.cc/fkgYrGsC/bha.jpg

BTW, this is the Old Format explanation of the difference between True Adamantium (aka Primary Adamantium) and Secondary Adamantium. Notice that Secondary Adamantium has a durability 4 levels LOWER than True Adamantium. Notice that True Adamantium has CL1000 level durability. Do the OFFICIAL STATS for TESS-1 have his adamantium's durability listed as CL1000? YES.
https://i.postimg.cc/TyYwGPqD/ybv.jpg

show me the link to the edition of the OHOTMU where you got that scan from anyway lmao .

Originally posted by abhilegend
Secondary Admantium.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-eCW-xyFTJns/WyAXw8qUfQI/AAAAAAAAnEs/kROHd1nBAFkbnWaE4uFFVyVwMmtY_gb7ACHMYCw/s1600/RCO054.jpg

It has no-sold Wolverine's adamantium claws and Cap's shield.

Originally, Tess One was meant to be covered in one true adamantium. No reason to think otherwise.

It needs to be noted, however, how Marvel tried to retcon damn near every instance of adamantium getting damaged in their history into secondary adamantium. That's what makes it messy, adamantium discussions always are like that.

Anyway, the whole discussion is pointless ----- destroying physical matter is one feat, affecting forcefields is a different category. Magneto is a master energy manipulator.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
No it wasn't "secondary"

Here are the Official Stats for TESS-1 that were published in '90. Remember, the Cosmic Spidey storyline was in '89. Notice where it CLEARLY STATES that TESS-1 Adamanitum. Since the Adamantium he was coated w/ was CLEARLY STATED to be CL1000 in material strength/durability, it means that it was coated w/ Primary Adamantium.

https://i.postimg.cc/4K2kPGyT/als.jpg

Current info supersedes earlier info in comics.



All this from a single blast from Spider-Man. Guess Atlas is multiversal now since it took Spider-Man more than that to knock him out.

Stop trolling.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
this is from the Old Format for Durability of Materials for Marvel.:
Notice that Admantium (it's actually Secondary Admantium) is listed as UN level in durability. According to TESS-1's Official Stats, his level of Adamantium was CL1000 in durability. Thus, it was Primary Admantium.:

https://i.postimg.cc/0zKnn8J7/ok.jpg

Unlike Abhi, I've actually READ the Captain America Annual where TESS-1 was coated w/ Primary Adamantium. Notice that 4 treatments of Seven Quarter-inch applications of that Adamantium were used on TESS-1 as explained in Panel 3. Thus it's WAAAAAY more durable than Secondary Adamantium.:
https://i.postimg.cc/fkgYrGsC/bha.jpg

BTW, this is the Old Format explanation of the difference between True Adamantium (aka Primary Adamantium) and Secondary Adamantium. Notice that Secondary Adamantium has a durability 4 levels LOWER than True Adamantium. Notice that True Adamantium has CL1000 level durability. Do the OFFICIAL STATS for TESS-1 have his adamantium's durability listed as CL1000? YES.
https://i.postimg.cc/TyYwGPqD/ybv.jpg

show me the link to the edition of the OHOTMU where you got that scan from anyway lmao .
What a bunch of nonsense. Wolverine and Cap decapitated Tess 1 because it's joints were not adamantium.

https://i.postimg.cc/14M6Qdqg/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/Lnb1qZv2/image.jpg

And Spider-Man's blast shattered it's joints, it didn't shatter the adamantium coating anywhere.

https://i.postimg.cc/KKnbPn5L/RCO017.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/7GwkmfBR/RCO018.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/phCt7R4L/RCO019.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/KRRyqXNm/RCO021.jpg

Shut up and stop trolling.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
It has no-sold Wolverine's adamantium claws and Cap's shield.

Originally, Tess One was meant to be covered in one true adamantium. No reason to think otherwise.

It needs to be noted, however, how Marvel tried to retcon damn near every instance of adamantium getting damaged in their history into secondary adamantium. That's what makes it messy, adamantium discussions always are like that.

Anyway, the whole discussion is pointless ----- destroying physical matter is one feat, affecting forcefields is a different category. Magneto is a master energy manipulator.
Even if it was, it wasn't like the blast blew a hole in the armor which would be blowing a hole in adamantium. The blast shattered the joints, nothing more.

Also the scene from Solo Avengers 11? It was an act from Hercules.

https://i.postimg.cc/0rWNy12w/image.jpg

Shut up troll.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Even if it was, it wasn't like the blast blew a hole in the armor which would be blowing a hole in adamantium. The blast shattered the joints, nothing more.

Gotcha.

Do you have scans on hand? I admit I had no idea CU Spidey fought Tess.

Makes perfect sense, btw:

https://i.imgur.com/9aUnc3s.jpg

The fight ends with Cap and Logan beheading Tess.

Originally posted by abhilegend
What a bunch of nonsense. Wolverine and Cap decapitated Tess 1 because it's joints were not adamantium.

https://i.postimg.cc/14M6Qdqg/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/Lnb1qZv2/image.jpg

And Spider-Man's blast shattered it's joints, it didn't shatter the adamantium coating anywhere.

https://i.postimg.cc/KKnbPn5L/RCO017.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/7GwkmfBR/RCO018.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/phCt7R4L/RCO019.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/KRRyqXNm/RCO021.jpg

Shut up and stop trolling.
I see jagged metal on several of the plates, doesn't look like it just blasted the joints apart...

Originally posted by darthgoober
I see jagged metal on several of the plates, doesn't look like it just blasted the joints apart... I would tend to agree.

Only thing I'd note is that just before it was blasted apart, TESS used the bridge structure(ie. generic steel) to repair itself after Spidey's initial strike:
http://i.imgur.com/54Hre0om.jpg

So if TESS used steel to repair any damaged adamantium portion of itself, then it could have potentially been easier for Spidey to blow it apart. Steel <<<<<< adamantium, after all.

Just a thought. /shrug

Originally posted by Galan007
I would tend to agree.

Only thing I'd note is that just before it was blasted apart, TESS used the bridge structure(ie. generic steel) to repair itself after Spidey's initial strike:
http://i.imgur.com/54Hre0om.jpg

So if TESS used steel to repair any damaged adamantium portion of itself, then it could have potentially been easier for Spidey to blow it apart. Steel <<<<<< adamantium, after all.

Just a thought. /shrug
Was his outer coating damaged at all previous to that? Just asking because it looks intact the entire time before then so it seems like he might be doing internal repair there or something like that. I mean I haven't read that issue in years so for all I know he'd just gotten an anti-metal meteor dropped on him, but what previous to Spidey's blast could/would have damaged the adamantium itself in the first place causing need for the repairs? Everyone acknowledges Cosmic Spidey was pretty powerful, but I don't think I've ever heard anyone suggest he's physically strong enough to damage adamantium to the point of needing repairs with a single punch before.

Could very well be as I didn't notice any obvious external damage. Hence "if".

Just seems like it absorbed a lot of steel to solely repair internal components, but I'm probably looking into it too much... The comic is from 1990 for gods sake.

You have something against the nineties, bro?

Lol, the 90s are my jam.

But they weren't exactly concerned with things like 'scale' back then.

Originally posted by darthgoober
I see jagged metal on several of the plates, doesn't look like it just blasted the joints apart...
That might be artist's interpretation.

The ONLY parts that Logan's Primary Adamantium laced claws were able to penetrate were the JOINTS. He SPECIFICALLY targeted the NECK. Thus, it backs up what the OFFICIAL STATS for TESS 1 state about the robot's JOINTS being SECONDARY ADAMANTIUM level in durability.:
https://i.postimg.cc/K43FRjWd/uj.jpg

Spectacular Spider-Man Vol.1 #160. Spidey WAS NOT aiming for the JOINTS. His blast did the most damage to the TORSO which means that his blast SHATTERED the part(s) that were coated w/ PRIMARY ADAMANTIUM (aka True Admantium). Thus, it's MORE PROOF that Abhi NEVER READ the storyline where Cosmic Spidey fights TESS-1.:
https://i.postimg.cc/qgyYP3SM/anh.jpg

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
The ONLY parts that Logan's Primary Adamantium laced claws were able to penetrate were the JOINTS. He SPECIFICALLY targeted the NECK. Thus, it backs up what the OFFICIAL STATS for TESS 1 state about the robot's JOINTS being SECONDARY ADAMANTIUM level in durability.:
https://i.postimg.cc/K43FRjWd/uj.jpg

Spectacular Spider-Man Vol.1 #160. Spidey WAS NOT aiming for the JOINTS. His blast did the most damage to the TORSO which means that his blast SHATTERED the part(s) that were coated w/ PRIMARY ADAMANTIUM (aka True Admantium). Thus, it's MORE PROOF that Abhi NEVER READ the storyline where Cosmic Spidey fights TESS-1.:
https://i.postimg.cc/qgyYP3SM/anh.jpg
Lolwut? I posted the bio which states it was secondary adamantium and the fight scans which shows only the joints were destroyed.

Now you've just to prove Spider-Man blasted Magneto's shields with same blast.

Is postimg site acting up or is it just me?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Is postimg site acting up or is it just me?
I think it's just you. Works fine for me.