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This is Majestic with creation blades vs Superman

CIS is Off

Opponents have no knowledge of each other

Majestic every single time. Take away the blades and things become interesting.

Superman.

it's gonna be a tough fight for Supes imo, he has to be very calculated, he cannot make one mistake, one misstep and he's gonna get cut in half

Superman's perception, reaction, and overall speed feats are far superior to Majestic's... and since there's no CIS here, Majestic's blades would never really be a threat, imo.

Originally posted by carver9
Majestic every single time. Take away the blades and things become interesting.

Two Titans of the board with opposing views.....who to trust????

If anyone thinks Majestics isnt going to touch Superman, that is by far the most hilarious thing ever. He WILL hit him and it will be a damaging attack that will change the fight

Originally posted by Galan007
Superman's perception, reaction, and overall speed feats are far superior to Majestic's... and since there's no CIS here, Majestic's blades would never really be a threat, imo.

Reaction Speed:
Majestic has crazy speed feats though
build a molecular disentangler in nanoseconds
https://imgur.com/kWqA6IC
Majestic fast enough to take off ring from Ion Kyle Rayner
https://imgur.com/a/yHNhR
See and rewrites billions of photon pulses in Eradicator per second with his eyes beam, to manipulate such large amount of information in such short time is absolutely insane
https://imgur.com/4ydH488

Travel Speed
Travel so fast photon seems stagnant
https://imgur.com/a/mgNhs

Superman does have better speed feats, but then again he has 100 times more apperances
not that it matters here, Superman would need multiple hits to ko Majestic, Majestic just need a good slice at Superman once in his vital organ

My point is only that in a CIS free environment, Maj would never land that slice.

Like I mentioned(and you seem to agree with), Superman's overall speed feats are far superior in general. I love Maj, but it is what it is.

Majestic cuts him in half.

Originally posted by JBL THE GREAT
Majestic loses

CIS and PIS off, plus, you know, Supes being able to see a guy with two big swords......for Maj to tag him, we need to see speed feats greater than Supes'. Simple.

Superman oneshots Majestic. Again.

breh...

Also, having hundreds more appearances shouldn't matter. Wolverine isn't stronger than Majestic.

Majestic moved a whole solar system, obvious troll post

And? Doesn't mean much if he can't tag Supes whilst he's being tagged.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Also, having hundreds more appearances shouldn't matter. Wolverine isn't stronger than Majestic.

it does matter, because people will always pick superman's top 5 percent speed feats and say "see how much faster he is to majestic?"
If we compare averages, Superman is slightly faster than Majestic, which means there's a chance he can get hit in this battle and die

CIS is off and Superman is going all-out here. This isnt a normal forum battle.

So under those conditions, Majestic would never touch him.

Originally posted by MrMind
it does matter, because people will always pick superman's top 5 percent speed feats and say "see how much faster he is to majestic?"
If we compare averages, Superman is slightly faster than Majestic, which means there's a chance he can get hit in this battle and die

Firstly, it's FULL capacity rule, not AVERAGE capacity rule.

Secondly, if he's slightly faster, then he's faster, period. If a human like Bruce Lee or Tyson can dodge and strike another human (with both being the SAME speed level, i.e. human), then someone slightly faster than a human would.....annihilate them.

And that's with averages. Top line feats for both? We don't wanna go there lol.

Originally posted by Galan007
My point is only that in a CIS free environment, Maj would never land that slice.

Like I mentioned(and you seem to agree with), Superman's overall speed feats are far superior in general. I love Maj, but it is what it is.

I agree to an extend, I think superman is faster, especially with the ridiculous speed feats from past 2 years like processing data of the entire universe or moon rebuilding in JL

but I don't think superman can run circles around Majestic in a battle scenerio, since Majestic himself is massively ftl

and take into account that superman consistently got hit by characters slower than Majestic, we can't all chalk it up to PIS and CIS you know

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Firstly, it's FULL capacity rule, not AVERAGE capacity rule.

Secondly, if he's slightly faster, then he's faster, period. If a human like Bruce Lee or Tyson can dodge and strike another human (with both being the SAME speed level, i.e. human), then someone slightly faster than a human would.....annihilate them.

And that's with averages. Top line feats for both? We don't wanna go there lol.

CIS off, full capacity rule doesn't mean we don't take into account of characters' full histories

or else everyone who's vulnerable to physical harm would get killed by Zoom, or Wally West could solo the entire DC and Marvel Earth altogether under these conditions. cuz speed lol

Bear in mind Majestic has a sword that can cut through anything, who has the further reach Majestic with his sword or Superman's fist?

what you are suggesting is that Superman can run around Majestic without getting hit once, at the same time KO majestic with a roundhouse kick.

If we know Superman can perceive/react/move at 'x' speed, because he has routinely done so many, MANY times in his history, then of course the instances where he's gotten tagged by slower beings can be chalked up to either PIS or CIS(or both)... Especially since we also know that he constantly holds back -- Flash often suffers from the same syndrome, for example(ALL comic book characters do.) But when you remove PIS *and* CIS, and then factor in the full capacity rule, it definitely changes how we need to look at things.

Also, let's not act like Majestic hasn't also been hit by slower characters before...

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Majestic moved a whole solar system, obvious troll post

Now you like space cheese, but say PC superman moving a solar system is space cheese.

Originally posted by Galan007
If we know Superman can perceive/react/move at 'x' speed, because he has routinely done so many, MANY times in his history, then of course the instances where he's gotten tagged by slower beings can be chalked up to either PIS or CIS(or both)... Especially since we also know that he constantly holds back -- Flash often suffers from the same syndrome, for example(ALL comic book characters do.) But when you remove PIS *and* CIS, and then factor in the full capacity rule, it definitely changes how we need to look at things.

Also, let's not act like Majestic hasn't also been hit by slower characters before... Well thought out and well said.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman oneshots Majestic. Again. when did the first time happen?

Originally posted by MrMind
CIS off, full capacity rule doesn't mean we don't take into account of characters' full histories

or else everyone who's vulnerable to physical harm would get killed by Zoom, or Wally West could solo the entire DC and Marvel Earth altogether under these conditions. cuz speed lol

Bear in mind Majestic has a sword that can cut through anything, who has the further reach Majestic with his sword or Superman's fist?

what you are suggesting is that Superman can run around Majestic without getting hit once, at the same time KO majestic with a roundhouse kick.

That's...precisely why Carver ragequit for a time, lol.

Forum rules:



IOW, even though the Flash's history doesn't have him offensively using his speed in the first millisecond of his COMIC fights, FORUM fights do. And that's with offensive speed. Defensively? Unless he loves pain, or is genuinely stupid, why would he ALLOW himself to get hit?

In this thread, CIS is off. So ask yourself: how does Superman get hit?

1. His opponent is faster than him.
2. His opponent is slower than him.

If 1, then we need to prove it. But you have already agreed that it's NOT 1. So it must be 2.

If 2, then we get the argument that well, slower characters hit faster characters ALL the time in comics. But this only occurs because:

A: Plot demands it - nobody wants to buy a Flash/Superman comic that is a single page long

B: Superman ALLOWS himself to be hit, because he is either stupid as phuck (herp, this blade is slowly travelling towards me, derpydoo I should let it hit me!), he enjoys it (oooh I've been a naughty boy, hope it stings!) or he's trying to test his opponent's strength.

Point A is negated by it being a forum fight. Point B? Well, he's not stupid, plus CIS is off. He's no sadist. So that leaves the ONLY way he gets hit, is because he's trying to test his opponent.

So now, go grab a knife. Start SLOWLY slicing into yourself. At what point will you say 'OK, that's enough, I've learnt all I need to from this stupid ass science experiment'?

Besides, you've forgotten that Supes also has HV, freezebreath, shouting powers...

Edit: further clarification of speed:



So Superman isn't standing there with his chest puffed out, thinking he can tank slashes from this Majestic guy who he's never met before.

I think you are going way off topic DS
How much faster do you think Superman is compared to Majestic?

I think the speed difference is slim
to say Superman won't get hit once here is like saying superman is SIGNIFICANTLY faster than
someone who is massively ftl with legit combat/reaction speed
1. someone who can interfere, block, redirect, rewrite billions of photon pulses per second. He was doing that the fortress mode eradicator, a high herald level being. Something even superman didn't accomplish
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/0/308/2090304-majestic1___reprogramming_erad_to_omniscience.jpg

2. someone who has nanosecond reaction time, or better yet someone who can build a high-tech device in nano seconds basis
https://imgur.com/a/UadGQ
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/0/308/2075646-wc_50___speed_building.jpg

3. someone who's fast enough to take off the ring of Ion
https://imgur.com/a/yHNhR

4. he's so fast lightspeed photon seems stagnant
https://imgur.com/a/mgNhs

and you think Superman is gonna statue someone this fast? not happening

Tough fight for both sides. Superman needs very careful calculating and predicting, There isn't much chance for him to make mistakes, But Supes has more impressive speed feats which makes me to put him above majestic in terms of speed( But the gap isn't significant)

Originally posted by MrMind
I think you are going way off topic DS
How much faster do you think Superman is compared to Majestic?

I think the speed difference is slim
to say Superman won't get hit once here is like saying superman is SIGNIFICANTLY faster than
someone who is massively ftl with legit combat/reaction speed
1. someone who can interfere, block, redirect, rewrite billions of photon pulses per second. He was doing that the fortress mode eradicator, a high herald level being. Something even superman didn't accomplish
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/0/308/2090304-majestic1___reprogramming_erad_to_omniscience.jpg

2. someone who has nanosecond reaction time, or better yet someone who can build a high-tech device in nano seconds basis
https://imgur.com/a/UadGQ
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/0/308/2075646-wc_50___speed_building.jpg

3. someone who's fast enough to take off the ring of Ion
https://imgur.com/a/yHNhR

4. he's so fast lightspeed photon seems stagnant
https://imgur.com/a/mgNhs

and you think Superman is gonna statue someone this fast? not happening

Why are you pretending Majestic is anywhere near Superman in ANY physical stat?

You KNOW Majestic has no ATTOSECOND speed feats which Superman has performed like just last year in Action Comics #1000

That feat alone makes Superman MAGNITUDES faster than Majestic.

Majestic is not as durable as Superman having to turn his body into neutronium just to survive flying into the core of the Sun.

Majestic is not as strong as Superman having his best feat be what? Moving planets of the solar system? Heck guys like Lobo and Mon-El have moved Solar Masses and Superman can knock out both of them at the SAME TIME.

The only thing Majestic has is his intelligence which I think Superman has closed the gap on (the way he's been written as a Super Genius again which was on and off again for alot of his post crisis history)

So again why are you PRETENDING this fight is close at all? Why are you trying to arbitrarily low ball Superman down to a level that pretends that Majestic and him are comparable when they really aren't at all?

Originally posted by Sensui
Why are you pretending Majestic is anywhere near Superman in ANY physical stat?

You KNOW Majestic has no ATTOSECOND speed feats which Superman has performed like just last year in Action Comics #1000

That feat alone makes Superman MAGNITUDES faster than Majestic.

Majestic is not as durable as Superman having to turn his body into neutronium just to survive flying into the core of the Sun.

Majestic is not as strong as Superman having his best feat be what? Moving planets of the solar system? Heck guys like Lobo and Mon-El have moved Solar Masses and Superman can knock out both of them at the SAME TIME.

The only thing Majestic has is his intelligence which I think Superman has closed the gap on (the way he's been written as a Super Genius again which was on and off again for alot of his post crisis history)

So again why are you PRETENDING this fight is close at all? Why are you trying to arbitrarily low ball Superman down to a level that pretends that Majestic and him are comparable when they really aren't at all?

you said majestic has no attosecond feats even though I just posted them
Superman has higher highs and lower lows as far as combat speed
durability means nothing in this fight, if creation blades connect it will cut through superman guaranfukinteed.

the difference is, mon-el and lobo did not have a weapon like the creation blades when fighting superman. mon-el and lobo were also landing hits on superman (worth noting Lobo wanna fight superman alone)

nobody is trying to lowball, Maj and Supes were on the same level for a good while, it's not until past 3-4 years superman has really took off to another level. still the gap is not huge

Originally posted by MrMind
you said majestic has no attosecond feats even though I just posted them
Superman has higher highs and lower lows as far as combat speed
durability means nothing in this fight, if creation blades connect it will cut through superman guaranfukinteed.

the difference is, mon-el and lobo did not have a weapon like the creation blades when fighting superman. mon-el and lobo were also landing hits on superman (worth noting Lobo wanna fight superman alone)

nobody is trying to lowball, Maj and Supes were on the same level for a good while, it's not until past 3-4 years superman has really took off to another level. still the gap is not huge

Majestic has NO ATTOSECOND speed feats. You posted NANOSECOND. Do you know the difference between them?

An Attosecond is one quintillionth of a single second while a Nanosecond is one billionth of a single second. You understand the difference?

You are low balling his speed by magnitudes to make a comparison where Majestic simply is not fast enough to engage a CIS all out Superman on any level.

The GAP is HUGE between them. Majestic has no business being compared to Superman on a physical level.

In the last few years Superman has done everything from literally being shown to be more powerful than the entire Justice League including Flash, Krona's Gauntlet Hal Jordan, Shazam, WW, Firestorm, Aquaman, etc... combined! To just 2 months ago Superman considered potentially moving so fast he worried he would collapse space-time to escape Leviathan's taking him out of space-time tech https://imgur.com/1JYZ3fJ

It doesn't matter if Superman is breaking into the greatest prison in the multiverse with ease or literally dying and leaping with such force he can shatter a planet, he's way beyond Majestic.

This doesn't make Majestic a chump or anything, he's up against Superman, a character than can vibrate his body so fast he can move a planet to another universe https://imgur.com/YUPWNy9

Majestic simply hasn't shown stuff to that degree and quite frankly most characters haven't got it either.

my mistake on the typo, I was skimming through your reply. yes Majestic is nanosecond not attosecond, still very impressive

Superman's attosecond feat doesn't even makes sense, the bullet doesn't travel at all at femtosecond or attosecond, unless in this scenerio some random cook's gun has bullet that's MFTL. if we apply even a little common sense superman doesnt even need to fly ftl to save that woman. this is the typical outlier feat that shouldn't take into account of the battle, because the writer is an idiot who doesn't understand physics.

Superman wins.

Originally posted by MrMind
breh...
In Dreamwar, a pre DOS Superman clone oneshotted him. Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Majestic moved a whole solar system, obvious troll post
He is still stated to be weaker than Superman and the writer Joe Casey stated Superman could do that too.

Originally posted by MrMind
I think you are going way off topic DS
How much faster do you think Superman is compared to Majestic?

I think the speed difference is slim
to say Superman won't get hit once here is like saying superman is SIGNIFICANTLY faster than
someone who is massively ftl with legit combat/reaction speed
1. someone who can interfere, block, redirect, rewrite billions of photon pulses per second. He was doing that the fortress mode eradicator, a high herald level being. Something even superman didn't accomplish
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/0/308/2090304-majestic1___reprogramming_erad_to_omniscience.jpg

2. someone who has nanosecond reaction time, or better yet someone who can build a high-tech device in nano seconds basis
https://imgur.com/a/UadGQ
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/0/308/2075646-wc_50___speed_building.jpg

3. someone who's fast enough to take off the ring of Ion
https://imgur.com/a/yHNhR

4. he's so fast lightspeed photon seems stagnant
https://imgur.com/a/mgNhs

and you think Superman is gonna statue someone this fast? not happening
That's Jay Garrick along with Bart making world go still in a
nanosecond .
http://i.imgur.com/8aW6e8Z.jpg
And this is Superman making Jay look like a statue in superspeed.
http://i.imgur.com/6LLq7ru.jpg
You're welcome.
Originally posted by Diesldude
when did the first time happen?
Dreamwar.

you are retarded abhi

1. he only ko majestic after majestic was immobilized by hal's construct (hal sneak attacked him from behind when majestic was laying it on supes), it was 2 on 1
https://imgur.com/a/7eXgJVL
2. dreamwar was just a dream. none of it actually happened

https://imgur.com/a/0m4depm

Originally posted by MrMind
I think you are going way off topic DS
How much faster do you think Superman is compared to Majestic?

I think the speed difference is slim
to say Superman won't get hit once here is like saying superman is SIGNIFICANTLY faster than
someone who is massively ftl with legit combat/reaction speed
1. someone who can interfere, block, redirect, rewrite billions of photon pulses per second. He was doing that the fortress mode eradicator, a high herald level being. Something even superman didn't accomplish
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/0/308/2090304-majestic1___reprogramming_erad_to_omniscience.jpg

2. someone who has nanosecond reaction time, or better yet someone who can build a high-tech device in nano seconds basis
https://imgur.com/a/UadGQ
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/0/308/2075646-wc_50___speed_building.jpg

3. someone who's fast enough to take off the ring of Ion
https://imgur.com/a/yHNhR

4. he's so fast lightspeed photon seems stagnant
https://imgur.com/a/mgNhs

and you think Superman is gonna statue someone this fast? not happening

I'm not going off topic.

Magnitudes? Like, atto second vs nanosecond? That's literally magnitudes lol.

You calling it an outlier doesn't negate it having happened. Then there's the moon rebuilding feat.

It's the full capacity rule, not average capacity rule. We've NEVER had a rule saying we go by averages. Never.

Majestic is easily fast enough to hit Superman. People need to stop making excuses and accept facts..

Originally posted by MrMind
you are retarded abhi

Uh, where is this coming from?
How's it 2 vs 1? Superman punched him, Hal just contained him (Majestic didn't even tried to break out).

And there is DOS Doomsday almost killing Majestic, Apollo and the same Superman.

And then there is Captain Atom commenting Majestic is almost as strong as Superman.

And normal Eradicator overpowering Majestic with one hand.



Nonsense. It was canon to Wildstorm characters, the reality was reset.



https://web.archive.org/web/20090222022604/http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=143484

Dreamwar was later mentioned in Wildstorm titles as well.

Superman under these rules owns.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I'm not going off topic.

Magnitudes? Like, atto second vs nanosecond? That's literally magnitudes lol.

You calling it an outlier doesn't negate it having happened. Then there's the moon rebuilding feat.

It's the full capacity rule, not average capacity rule. We've NEVER had a rule saying we go by averages. Never.

It does negate it, when narration is straight up against what's shown on panel.
superman is not moving at attosecond basis, this was a nice supersonic/hypersonic feat nothing more

1. bullet is only hypersonic fast. the bullet doesn't travel at all in attoseconds or femtosecond
2. if he's operating at attoseconds basis he should be massively faster than light, why does he barely make it to save the woman?
3. it was stated on panel the bullet was traveling 830 feet per second, and superman barely made it with acceleration, he was only city blocks away, he was in the same city. the distance he traveled was not far at all
https://imgur.com/a/iqUBMel

Majestic actually has a better feat than that one. he was stopping multiple disasters at once all over the world, not just in one city
https://imgur.com/JaU6GoP

we take what's shown over what's stated
just like you would happily take Wally actually went massively over light speed when saving half a million people from nuke explosion in fernus arc, even though narration only said he's below light speed
same thing here, you can't pick and choose.

So far you have no arguments

Originally posted by abhilegend
Uh, where is this coming from?
How's it 2 vs 1? Superman punched him, Hal just contained him (Majestic didn't even tried to break out).

And there is DOS Doomsday almost killing Majestic, Apollo and the same Superman.

And then there is Captain Atom commenting Majestic is almost as strong as Superman.

And normal Eradicator overpowering Majestic with one hand.



Nonsense. It was canon to Wildstorm characters, the reality was reset.



https://web.archive.org/web/20090222022604/http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=143484

Dreamwar was later mentioned in Wildstorm titles as well.

abhi, stop being willfully obtuse
if 2 men was holding your arms immobilizing you, while John knocks you out when you couldn't move
would you say John is a better fighter than you?
same thing happened there, to call it superman one shotting majestic is grossly overstatement that ignores all context of what actually happened. That's carver level bullshit and you know it

CA comments doesn't mean much, Majestic was holding back when he first met CA
Eradicator got his ass kicked

your link doesn't work
Dreamwar was just a dream, if you read the last issue of the book you know none of it happened.

You're misconstruing perception/reaction speed(ie. what Superman was doing in those scans, when he was pereceiving/interpreting the events on an attosecond-by-attosecond basis) with flight speed.

Even though Superman's flight speed feats massively outclass Majestic's as well(*see he and Kara casually flying across 3 different GL sectors in a single panel, as a recent example*), flight speed is borderline irrelevant here -- this isn't a race from point 'a' to point 'b'. Superman's perception/reaction speed is what really matters when it comes to dodging Majestic's stabby-stabs... And Superman has the showings to suggest that even Majestic would -literally- be a statue in comparison to him.

Majestic has confirmed nanosecond perception/reaction speed. In one nanosecond, light can travel about a foot.

Superman has confirmed attosecond perception/reaction speed. In one attosecond, light can only travel the length of two hydrogen atoms.


There is no comparison whatsoever in that respect... It isn't even remotely close. ermm

Erm, no, you're misunderstanding the point of that scan.

The point is that Superman can register time in attosecond levels. It's a reflex feat.

The narration doesn't contradict anything, nor is it contradicted by anything. Moreover, I note you (deliberately?) didn't mention the moon rebuilding feat.

Tell me what YOU think is Superman's best speed feat.

I further note you keep throwing terms like 'average' for Superman, then post Majestics BEST feats, lol.

Edit: WTF Galan

Sry. I must've posted under the wrong account.

Galan, Saint


I'm not mistaking travel speed with reflex/reaction speed
because normally travel speed and your reflex/reaction needs to be proportional
you can't be traveling at hypersonic/under light speed, yet be able to extend your arm out to block the bullet in attosecond, that's why this feat doesn't make sense. I'm going by what's actually shown, not just narration.


Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Moreover, I note you (deliberately?) didn't mention the moon rebuilding feat.



I literally mentioned it in second page, I cannot mention the same thing again and again

Originally posted by MrMind
I agree to an extend, I think superman is faster, especially with the ridiculous speed feats from past 2 years like processing data of the entire universe or moon rebuilding in JL

but I don't think superman can run circles around Majestic in a battle scenerio, since Majestic himself is massively ftl

and take into account that superman consistently got hit by characters slower than Majestic, we can't all chalk it up to PIS and CIS you know

Unless, you know.....Superman holds back in the atmosphere when flying.....

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Unless, you know.....Superman holds back in the atmosphere when flying.....

except he isn't. see when he says"I know my top speed, I know the distance, I'm close but this is math"
or when he keeps repeating "I won't make it"

Does he sound like he's holding back to you?
https://imgur.com/a/iqUBMel

Yep. He knows his top speed - because he's flying over a city (see scan of him flying).

He has a top speed that he has to limit himself to when flying.

But you've taken that off.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yep. He knows his top speed - because he's flying over a city (see scan of him flying).

He has a top speed that he has to limit himself to when flying.

But you've taken that off.

We know Superman consciously uses just enough speed as to not irreparably destroy time/space:
https://i.imgur.com/fw4P7qN.jpg

Like you said, though: his character-induced 'governors' are presumably off the table here.

...But again, flight speed is primarily moot here regardless.

Originally posted by MrMind
abhi, stop being willfully obtuse
if 2 men was holding your arms immobilizing you, while John knocks you out when you couldn't move
would you say John is a better fighter than you?
same thing happened there, to call it superman one shotting majestic is grossly overstatement that ignores all context of what actually happened. That's carver level bullshit and you know it

That's bullshit, Majestic didn't even try to break out.

Proof of this?

Only because Majestic rewrote his programming. Otherwise Eradicator was breaking his bones with his one hand.

Saying stupid shit doesn't makes it true.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's bullshit, Majestic didn't even try to break out.



ok...so superman only knock majestic out when majestic was restrained by someone and wasn't even trying to fight. that means superman somehow can one-shot majestic now? has so much kryptonian semen been squirted into your eyes you cant see the bigger picture? what even is this incoherent rambling



proof of what? Majestic holding back? I thought you read the story . he easily outspeed Captain Atom who was going full speed, and block his punch casually
"I'm not here to fight you, I'm here to help you"
https://imgur.com/aVN3dSC
he still wasn't trying to fight him, he was restraining him here
https://imgur.com/5ClJfCE
only when Atom spits on his face, he got mad and throw him to the monument. "that does it" means he was holding back before
https://imgur.com/JHTBOpk
Originally posted by abhilegend


Only because Majestic rewrote his programming. Otherwise Eradicator was breaking his bones with his one hand.



Eradicatior lost, deal with it

Originally posted by abhilegend

Saying stupid shit doesn't makes it true.

right back at ya

seriously go read the story again, last issue of dreamwar. it was just a dream, stated on panel. stop trying to weasel your way out

anyone who thinks eradicator was winning needs to examine their head, once majestic stop playing it was complete ownage

he even said so himself "let's stop playing" meaning I'm getting serious now
https://imgur.com/GNhxvyF

Originally posted by Galan007


We know Superman consciously uses just enough speed as to not irreparably destroy time/space:
https://i.imgur.com/fw4P7qN.jpg

Like you said, though: his character-induced 'governors' are presumably off the table here.

...But again, flight speed is primarily moot here regardless.

Indeed. He can still perceive and react to thinks as they happen, if not on an attosecond, then a femtosecond.

Which is still magnitudes faster than Majestic. When he then gets hit in COMIC fights, either it's because his opponent is faster than him, or it's PIS for the story, or it's CIS because it's Clark.

None of which applies here.

Originally posted by MrMind
ok...so superman only knock majestic out when majestic was restrained by someone and wasn't even trying to fight. that means superman somehow can one-shot majestic now? has so much kryptonian semen been squirted into your eyes you cant see the bigger picture? what even is this incoherent rambling

Why are you trying to flame here? Superman oneshotted Majestic who was momentarily restrained by Hal. There was nothing to suggest it was a cheapshot.

Not to mention DOS Doomsday almost killed the same Majestic, Apollo and Superman.


https://i.postimg.cc/r0dTk4VQ/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/0KDq6qJS/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/5jCJK8kt/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/N5vc3LWk/image.jpg

Which you know, DOS Superman killed alone.

That's a different fight, Majestic was already clowned by Atom.

https://i.postimg.cc/Y4BkH0GH/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/mc3424CF/image.jpg

Majestic even says Atom will go in pieces.

Actually he didn't. The blast koed Majestic and turned him into an amnesiac.

No, it wasn't. The boy was warping reality by in his dreams and that was changing reality in normal world.

Originally posted by MrMind
anyone who thinks eradicator was winning needs to examine their head, once majestic stop playing it was complete ownage

he even said so himself "let's stop playing" meaning I'm getting serious now
https://imgur.com/GNhxvyF
He reprogrammed Eradicator, who then knocked Majestic out and gave him amnesia.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16777499/eradvsmajestic_5.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16777853/majesticamnesiac.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16777852/majesticamnesiac_2.jpg.html

Wow, such ownag!!!

because you are obnoxious as hell. your original statement was "superman one shotted majestic"
how could any normal human being think this shows superman one shotting him, instead of cheap shotting him, is beyond me.
it's clearly 2 on 1.
https://i.imgur.com/j3trpM3.jpg

it doesn't matter how strong that Doomsday is, Dreamwar is non canon to DC thus it doesn't scale to mainstream doomsday.



yeah makes sense. Majestic holds back in his second and third encounters, but for some reason magically go all out in his first.

eyes roll so hard eyeballs pop out



Eradicator knows he was about to get destroyed so he went self destruct suicide bombing. which didn't kill Majestic. That's clearly a win on Majestic. But you wouldn't be able to see that with S penis so far down your throat.

Crossovers aren't canon period, I thought, anyway?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Crossovers aren't canon period, I thought, anyway?

almost all DC/Wildstorm crossover are canon
Wildstorm and DC aren't inter company crossover
wildstorm is part of dc multiverse and was earth 50 during pre52

events like majestic coming to dc earth or captain atom going to the wildstorm earth are all canon as they impact the characters' main history and affect the continuity

not in the case of dreamwar of course since it was a dream.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Superman under these rules owns.

CIS off supes definitely wins most of the time, but without prior knowledge of each other as per rules, I can see supes try to block or defend against the blades(that IMO can cut him like *ahem* adamantium*cough*), giving a majestic the win.

Originally posted by MrMind
because you are obnoxious as hell. your original statement was "superman one shotted majestic"

If you think being correct is being obnoxious, sure.

How is it cheapshotting?

Stop being dumb, these were the clones of DC characters.


https://i.postimg.cc/BXcQpqFY/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/5X49kZqx/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/w1wxK00D/image.jpg




That's what the comic says. Also Majestic was aware that if Cap dies, the universe dies with him second time they fought.

Nice answer.

How does Majestic being koed and turned amnesiac while Eradicator was fine is a win for Majestic now?

He got jumped and you're using that as evidence of Superman beating him. You're a try hard.

He got jumped? He was already punching Superman you nincompoop.

Originally posted by abhilegend
He got jumped? He was already punching Superman you nincompoop.

He got wrapped up by a GL and Superman surprised punched him afterwards. Why are you using this showing as evidence?

How's that jumping someone?

Originally posted by abhilegend
How's that jumping someone? are you blind or just a troll?

It's not a cheap shot. He's still in a fight, he's still facing Supes, he can still brace for it.

Jesus Christ!! If someone puts me in a bearhug from behind and a person that I was fighting hits me in my face, that's a full scale cheap shot. The excuses for Superman is gettng extremely annoying.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It's not a cheap shot. He's still in a fight, he's still facing Supes, he can still brace for it.

if you are in a fight with guy A, his buddies guy B and C suddenly grab you from behind restraining you, then guy A starts landing shots on your head knocking you out

did guy A beat you fair and square?

Originally posted by JBL THE GREAT
Jesus Christ!! If someone puts me in a bearhug from behind and a person that I was fighting hits me in my face, that's a full scale cheap shot. The excuses for Superman is gettng extremely annoying.
Originally posted by abhilegend
He got jumped? He was already punching Superman you nincompoop.

Originally posted by MrMind
if you are in a fight with guy A, his buddies guy B and C suddenly grab you from behind restraining you, then guy A starts landing shots on your head knocking you out

did guy A beat you fair and square?
It would be unfair if it was multiple shots and Majestic was unable to fight back. Superman landed one punch and koed Majestic.

Originally posted by MrMind
Galan, Saint


I'm not mistaking travel speed with reflex/reaction speed
because normally travel speed and your reflex/reaction needs to be proportional This is not remotely true.

Superman can't fly that fast in the atmosphere, and it has been mentioned time and time again:
https://imgur.com/a/hlUi83Q

You even had a scan, posted earlier, where he's afraid to go too fast to break space/time.

In a forum fight, he has no such qualms.

the leviathan scan has no relation to the attosecond feat, because it's completely different instances.

https://imgur.com/a/iqUBMel

you guys are just speculating at this point if superman was restraining his speed when he was saving the woman. Not saying he couldn't go MFTL, but he wasn't during that instance. you can use other showings to prove his speed, just not that one.

superman narrative in the scan suggest he wasn't holding back. He said "I know my top speed, I know the distance. I'm close, but this is math, I won't make it." at no point did the writer mention he was restraining his speed. he was accelerating yes from supersonic to hypersonic and then beyond. so from mach 1 to maybe somewhere like 10.

This attosecond showing makes no sense whatsoever anyway. the writer is suggesting superman was only moving hypersonic but can extend his arm out in attosecond? The bullet is only traveling 830 feet persecond. In femtosecond or attosecond basis the bullet would be standing still in air, not reaching to the woman's temple. This is just poor writing all together. might as well throw that feat away.

The Leviathan scan has relevance because it shows -- as so many instances have, that Superman won't use his full speed on Earth, as the consequences are too dire. That's an essential part of his history -- it's why he always pulls his punches, too, even against opponents on his level -- as for, example, he did against Rogol in Metropolis, where he was afraid he'd tip the whole town if he punched too hard. I mean, whatever, if you want you can use the moon feat and Majestic is still a statue, if you don't want to use Superman's own statements, but actions.

Originally posted by JBL THE GREAT
Jesus Christ!! If someone puts me in a bearhug from behind and a person that I was fighting hits me in my face, that's a full scale cheap shot. The excuses for Superman is gettng extremely annoying.

Exactly, he couldve easily rolled with the punch. It's a cheap, sucker shot to the highest of order. The fight isnt usable.

Originally posted by Galan007
Superman's perception, reaction, and overall speed feats are far superior to Majestic's... and since there's no CIS here, Majestic's blades would never really be a threat, imo.


Maybe at the very, very high end, skimming into outlier territory.


Maj is no slouch, he's reacted to tp at nanosecond speeds, and has flown many light years in the time it took to complete a two or three balloon internal monologue. He's also built, scrapped, and perfected tech in the space of seconds or less.


Plus there's rewriting Eradicators synthetic DNA, mid fight, which has to count for something in the speed and perception department. And he defeated him easier then Superman has, in his fortress mode.

But....you're also using Majs highest showings.....

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But....you're also using Majs highest showings.....


High consistent showings, yes.


I'm taking stuff like Superman tagging Zoom, which is clear cut outlier territory, or anything that outperforms a Flash. I'm sure there's things out there.


Just like Batman manages to outreact Superman.

Originally posted by cdtm
Maybe at the very, very high end, skimming into outlier territory.


Maj is no slouch, he's reacted to tp at nanosecond speeds, and has flown many light years in the time it took to complete a two or three balloon internal monologue. He's also built, scrapped, and perfected tech in the space of seconds or less.


Plus there's rewriting Eradicators synthetic DNA, mid fight, which has to count for something in the speed and perception department. And he defeated him easier then Superman has, in his fortress mode.
That wasn't fortress Eradicator.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That wasn't fortress Eradicator.



It looked different, but what else could it be?


He got bigger out of nowhere, and armored up.

and as far as going top speed on earth have dire consequences, superman also fought in space

and flashes or zoom has move at speed close to infinity on earth

as far as dire consequences it really depends on the writer. most disregard it, let's be honest logically earth would be blowing up a thousand times already when you got anti-monitor and darkseid beating the crap out of each other on it. this part of logic has been long abandoned

....hasn't Batman stolen Hal's ring off him the first time they met lol

Originally posted by MrMind
are villains like Zarr, Doomsday, Bizarro, Cyborg Superman, Zod, Eradicator, Lobo, Ultraman, Konvikt, Shazam who laughs, Black Adam all moving > attosecond? because they are able to land hits on superman, just like countless other people who landed on superman. Didn't you calculated yourself superman was moving 10^26 times speed of light in that moon feat? let's say superman is holding back severely in all his fight and only used 1/1000th of his speed he should still be 10^23 times speed of light. which means no one other than the flash should ever hit him. He should be running circles against most herald/trans level beings on DC earth and knock them out with a single punch. (even when he's pulling his punches and pulling his speed) We're moving on a different topic altogether but, since you've been reading comics for a while too , you should notice that Flash/Superman get tagged, constantly, by people who either have no super-speed, or have orders of magnitude inferior levels of it. That's the way super-speed has always worked in comics -- it's the jobbiest of jobbest powers. I initially wanted to put strike on your post and replace every single character there with a Flash villain, to make the point clearer -- but surely you must understand this.

This is the mindset writers going in when writing Superman:


Originally posted by MrMind
if we use the 3 highest showings of superman I mean, if you want, we can take out Superman's moon rebuilding? Running through time? attosecond perception? femtosecond perception? him holding his speed back to not break space/time? Rubbing his hands fast enough to seal space time? him perceiving and catching up to Barry who was moving so fast in attosecond-level perception he was reality-warping an entire town into a kryptonian one? him being explicitly the 4th fastest being in DC faster than Death itself and just behind Wally/Barry/Eobard ? we can ignore Superman explicitly saying that he can see 3 moves ahead of everybody but Barry? Him outracing Impulse? Making Jay look like a statue? Reading every medical text ever published in short time? etc.

At this point, you might as well just make a list of feats you don't want me to bring up.

Originally posted by MrMind
in the meantime majestic actually shown to have done something like that, fast enough to take off Ion 2 Kyle Rayner's ring (a trans level being)
https://imgur.com/ftFWalP I can't tell if you're serious...?

Look -- there's no shame in Majestic being outclassed here, considering who he's up against. It's better to do that, than just flat-out ignoring every feat because you don't like it.

wow shocking revelation! no shit sherlock a reality warper made them for the sole purpose to beat the wildstorm characters. so these dc clones are hardly normal level power levels. Spartan is an android yet he got taken out by batman's knockout gas. it was either the reality warper made an ubersuperbat or terrible writing all around

Originally posted by MrMind
in the meantime majestic actually shown to have done something like that, fast enough to take off Ion 2 Kyle Rayner's ring (a trans level being)
https://imgur.com/ftFWalP I mean, we were never shown HOW Majestic got Kyle's ring... That one page is literally all the info we have. So I'm not quite sure why you keep bringing it up as a quantifiable speed feat?

I guess this thread helped me come to the conclusion of Gladiator speed vs other beings slower than him.

Originally posted by MrMind
wow shocking revelation! no shit sherlock a reality warper made them for the sole purpose to beat the wildstorm characters. so these dc clones are hardly normal level power levels. Spartan is an android yet he got taken out by batman's knockout gas. it was either the reality warper made an ubersuperbat or terrible writing all around
What? The clones were not as powerful as real characters, Dr Fate died by bullets FFS.

Originally posted by Galan007
I mean, we were never shown HOW Majestic got Kyle's ring... That one page is literally all the info we have. So I'm not quite sure why you keep bringing it up as a quantifiable speed feat?
And Kyle wasn't Ion at that point.

Originally posted by abhilegend
And Kyle wasn't Ion at that point.

maybe you're right, I haven't read that story in 10 years.

No.

That's a strawman of what's being argued. I showed you feats of Superman, but that doesn't mean that he'll instantly stop time and disembowel Majestic before the latter moves an eyelash.

The point of the confrontation in this particular thread is this:

a). Would Superman CIS-off Superman, mind you, lol] want to avoid a blade that he knows nothing about?
b). Has Superman showed the speed necessary to do so?

If the answer to both is yes, then Superman can, would, and he'd win this.

Now, you're stuck on b). because you want to ignore feats. You want to bypass a plethora of showings from Superman that are different orders of magnitude above Majestic's best 1-2 speed feats. And you're on the edge of the carver cliff, where you'll use "here's Flash Superman being tagged by Gorilla Grodd/HeatWave/Weather Wizard Mongul/Kalibak".

Where does the 'high-end' Superman of yours stop? Not using the best 1 feat? 2 feats? 3 feats? 5 feats? Ok. 10 feats? You're drawing random lines, until the line you can draw is at the highest line of Majestic , in order to try and argue for the latter.

Let me make this easier for you.

Question.

Would Superman get hit by Majestic's blade, and why?

Am also mystified as to what people's interpretation of Full Capacity means......

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
....hasn't Batman stolen Hal's ring off him the first time they met lol


Not sure.


When he met Guy, he had to rely on him being a macho idiot and voluntarily taking it off.

Ik this is old thread but Majestic was rearranging the solar system for 4 months straight. Creating rings on Mars, breaking down the ones on Saturn, he had to fly moons from to the next solar system over to create the rings on Mars, made Mercury into moon in Jupiter's orbit, and caught a comet and turned it into a 10th planet. Meanwhile in the mix he rewrote Jupiter's atmosphere with his atomic vision.
Jim Lee literally created majestic to be Superman but better

https://i.postimg.cc/LYCPSm5X/dans.jpg

Majestic

Superman, still.

Majestroes is a being who is on Supes level at the least, giving him the creation blades while Clark is empty handed is not a fair fight.

Superman is faster than Majestic.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Superman is faster than Majestic.

I mean just recently, random daxamites and eradicator seem to tag him just fine vin

Originally posted by MrMind
CIS is Off ermmhappy

Originally posted by Galan007
ermmhappy

https://media.tenor.com/images/104994a187ee353fe46f8caa46df2634/tenor.gif

https://i.gifer.com/51to.gif

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/BountifulLankyGoldenmantledgroundsquirrel-small.gif

Perhaps you shouldn't have taken CIS out, because nothing stops Superman from disarming him from the start, and shoving his fist through his head.

Majestic in character isn't on Superman's level.

it's not like you read any comics but sure

Majestic kills Superman.

Superman, especially at current levels, is also more powerful then Majestic all around, but that doesn't matter. Majestic's strikes would never hit their mark.

Originally posted by MrMind
it's not like you read any comics but sure

Remember when you insulted me last time right? Do you really want me to bury you again Little Dick?

It seems funny that Majestic with blades as stated by some people can beat Hyperion, Supreme, Blue Marvel, Gladiator, Silver Surfer, Thor, Hulk, WW Hulk, WB Hulk, Kurse, or anybody else, YET, he cannot beat Superman when 98 percent of the characters named would wreck superman.????

CIS is off.

Originally posted by Galan007
CIS is off. is it only off for Superman?

Nope. They're both going all-out.

Should we compare speed feats?

Originally posted by Galan007
Nope. They're both going all-out.

Should we compare speed feats? Most of the characters i named would smoke Majestic in speed. Especially Gladiator, and supreme, yet speed is the deciding factor ONLY when it comes to Superman and Gladiator is faster than superman yet he would get cut to shreds by those blades according to certain people????

Majestic would stomp Gladiator blindfolded with both hands tied behind his back, you marvel fanboy

Originally posted by JBL
Most of the characters i named would smoke Majestic in speed. Especially Gladiator, and supreme, yet speed is the deciding factor ONLY when it comes to Superman and Gladiator is faster than superman yet he would get cut to shreds by those blades according to certain people???? I don't care about your other agendas.

I'm just talking about Majestic and Superman here.

Originally posted by Galan007
I don't care about your other agendas.

I'm just talking about Majestic and Superman here. So you think Majestic will fail to hit Superman?

Originally posted by JBL
So you think Majestic will fail to hit Superman?

With CIS and PIS off, yes.

Unless Majestic has feats suggesting he's faster than Superman.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
With CIS and PIS off, yes.

Unless Majestic has feats suggesting he's faster than Superman. WW, Black Adam, CM, powergirl and Maxima would have no trouble hitting Superman in any situation. Neither would Majestic. CIS and PIS is just an excuse to give Superman the win. Superman WILL get hit by Majestic and his blades.

Originally posted by JBL
WW, Black Adam, CM, powergirl and Maxima would have no trouble hitting Superman in any situation. Neither would Majestic. CIS and PIS is just an excuse to give Superman the win. Superman WILL get hit by Majestic and his blades.

Majestic has also been hit by characters slower than Superman. And Superman has used his speed with faster characters than Majestic.

Basically it's this:

Is Superman faster than Majestic; or
Is Superman slower than Majestic.

That's all we need to answer.

Which of these is it for you?

majestic has overall like 30 speed feats out of his 150 or so appearances

to try and compare those with superman's best speed feats ONLY...is well...quite honestly...insane

but here is a universal reality warper more powerful than supes getting chopped up

https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/scale_medium/0/308/2075604-wc_v5_16___blitz_from_hawaii_to_the_south_pacific.jpg

Originally posted by MrMind
majestic has overall like 30 speed feats out of his 150 or so appearances

to try and compare those with superman's best speed feats ONLY...is well...quite honestly...insane

but here is a universal reality warper more powerful than supes getting chopped up


But that's what full capacity/PIS off/CIS off means.

Nobody is saying Majestic is a slowpoke. Far from it. But we need to compare his highest speed feats against Supes'.

Nor is anyone saying the blades can't chop Superman. Majestic needs to connect with them first.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But that's what full capacity/PIS off/CIS off means.

Nobody is saying Majestic is a slowpoke. Far from it. But we need to compare his highest speed feats against Supes'.

Nor is anyone saying the blades can't chop Superman. Majestic needs to connect with them first.

right

in character majestic wins

cis off superman wins

seems pretty simple

Why would Superman allow himself to get hit?

Apparently, in character Superman is like Zsasz.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Apparently, in character Superman is like Zsasz. Hm7vnOC4hoY

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But that's what full capacity/PIS off/CIS off means.

Nobody is saying Majestic is a slowpoke. Far from it. But we need to compare his highest speed feats against Supes'.

Nor is anyone saying the blades can't chop Superman. Majestic needs to connect with them first.



So, just like if say, Deathstroke had a Promethium blade, and was facing Iron Fist?



Yes, the blade can chop Danny up, or absorb his Fist. But he has to intercept him first.

Originally posted by cdtm
So, just like if say, Deathstroke had a Promethium blade, and was facing Iron Fist?



Yes, the blade can chop Danny up, or absorb his Fist. But he has to intercept him first.

Not quite.

Because the blade can absorb magic, and the suit can protect against magic too.

Then we have their relative speed feats, where whilst Danny has his, so does DS on top of his suit and blade.

Remember, the blade has blocked HV and Darkforce energy blasts before. So you'd have to prove IF is faster than Superman's HV

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Majestic has also been hit by characters slower than Superman. And Superman has used his speed with faster characters than Majestic.

Basically it's this:

Is Superman faster than Majestic; or
Is Superman slower than Majestic.

That's all we need to answer.

Which of these is it for you? Bruce Lee was far faster than me, but I bet the farm I would hit him with my snake fang swords.

Originally posted by JBL
Bruce Lee was far faster than me, but I bet the farm I would hit him with my snake fang swords.

But you're both human level in speed. He's faster than you, sure, but you're both the same level, relatively.

Originally posted by MrMind
idk, why would superman allow himself to get tagged by eradicator or daxamites just 2 weeks ago...

just something he constantly do when in character...

Yup, PIS. Or Daxamites are that fast (remember, they are meant to be more powerful than Supes).

This Eradicator?
https://i.postimg.cc/xqDjQq0b/RCO010-1580902530.jpg

And these Daxamites?
https://i.postimg.cc/Bb1ZR2G0/RCO015-1580902530.jpg

Or did you mean later?
https://i.postimg.cc/GmB0KbrW/RCO003-1583322152.jpg

Or here?
https://i.postimg.cc/P50gF05P/RCO005-1583322152.jpg

Here?
https://i.postimg.cc/Zq3GkjWj/RCO019-w-1582141643.jpg

In short, getting tagged by Eradicator and the Daxamites isn't exactly a low showing....

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But you're both human level in speed. He's faster than you, sure, but you're both the same level, relatively. Superman and Majestic fall into the same concept though. They are both super human level, so its the same thing. He will get hit with those blades. The same as I can use my snake fang swords and hit any living creature with them, big or small.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Not quite.

Because the blade can absorb magic, and the suit can protect against magic too.

Then we have their relative speed feats, where whilst Danny has his, so does DS on top of his suit and blade.

Remember, the blade has blocked HV and Darkforce energy blasts before. So you'd have to prove IF is faster than Superman's HV


How on earth did Slade even keep up with Batman then?

Originally posted by JBL
Superman and Majestic fall into the same concept though. They are both super human level, so its the same thing. He will get hit with those blades. The same as I can use my snake fang swords and hit any living creature with them, big or small.

So you think all superhumans have the same speed level?

Originally posted by cdtm
How on earth did Slade even keep up with Batman then?

Batman?

The guy who dodges a bloodlusted Superman's HV AFTER it was fired? Wrong example to use my friendo!

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So you think all superhumans have the same speed level? No, but Majestic is fast enough to hit Superman.

Originally posted by MrMind
idk, why would superman allow himself to get tagged by eradicator or daxamites just 2 weeks ago...

just something he constantly do when in character... https://media0.giphy.com/media/eoZITPZYxvFkI/giphy.gif

I know.

The reason I'm crying inside is because of the "well, he gets tagged by these slow character" type of carvereasoning.

I'd back him up against pretty much any Superman copycat brick, but the main guy's stats are just too much.

How do the Creation Blades do against magic?

Originally posted by MrMind
@DS
So by your logic, Flash is blitzing the crap out of several superman level people, I'm totally ok with this accessmentvin
https://imgur.com/a/sM65f2j


I 10,000% agree with this assessment.

Originally posted by JBL
No, but Majestic is fast enough to hit Superman.

What's Majestic's fastest speed feats, and how do they compare with Superman's fastest speed feats?

His fastest is the computer one in my opinion and Supes has way faster.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What's Majestic's fastest speed feats, and how do they compare with Superman's fastest speed feats? So when one character is far faster than the other, that's an auto win huh? Interesting.... I have seen you vote against Gladiator against far far slower characters. Especially when marvel characters go up against DC characters that are far slower. Very interesting 👍. I guess speed only counts for Superman to give him the win. 👍

Like who?

Besides, we're talking in THIS thread about Majestic and Superman, with CIS AND PIS off

Please try and stay on topic

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Like who?

Besides, we're talking in THIS thread about Majestic and Superman, with CIS AND PIS off

Please try and stay on topic On topic? You want to compare speed feats between one character that has 150 million appearances to one that had few?? Answer this question, has Majestic ever hit Superman? Stop using pis and cis as an excuse to say Superman wins. Majestic will hit him, that's a known fact in comics. But way to dodge 👍.

Originally posted by JBL
On topic? You want to compare speed feats between one character that has 150 million appearances to one that had few?? Answer this question, has Majestic ever hit Superman? Stop using pis and cis as an excuse to say Superman wins. Majestic will hit him, that's a known fact in comics. But way to dodge 👍.

Dodging? No.

If you don't have the speed feats from Majestic to compare, or the highest speed feats from Majestic don't compare to Superman's highest, then no, he's not tagging Superman. And you can simply say no and we can all move on.

It's the FULL capacity rule, not AVERAGE capacity rule. This is not a comic fight, but a forum fight.

Not that I ever knew that the number of appearances mattered who is faster, Wolverine or Northstar? Who has more appearances

A year later, and I am still waiting on JBL.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
A year later, and I am still waiting on JBL.

You'll never get a legitimate answer from the liar who when asked said hos knowledge of Superman came from JLA, then started claiming Superman was his favorite character, but always argues against Superman. He's pathetic.

Also, Superman wins.