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All the Knights of Ren shown here-
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All of Snoke's Praetorian Guards-
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Hows it go?

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Knights should destroy

Going by their fights against Ren the Praetorians clearly destroy.

Agreed, but my impression was that Kylo and Rey both grew much more powerful between TLJ and TROS, despite the short amount of time. Originally posted by Darth Thor
Going by their fights against Ren the Praetorians clearly destroy.

Anyone know if the Praetorian guards force sensitive?

Originally posted by xPRIMEx
Anyone know if the Praetorian guards force sensitive? I haven't come across a source that states they were.

Originally posted by Galan007
I haven't come across a source that states they were.

But Knights are, yes?

Just making sure.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
But Knights are, yes?

Just making sure.
Yep

What have they done? Aside from getting compared to Inquisitors?

Get their asses kicked by Kylo. They suck.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
What have they done? Aside from getting compared to Inquisitors? The KoR have been given some impressive lip-service/accolades in a few guidebooks, but as far as feats go, their limited showings in RoS are it. They might rack up some decent feats in the current comic series, but only time will tell there.

We also haven't seen "Ren" in action yet, so he's a complete wildcard as of now.

Originally posted by Galan007
The KoR have been given some impressive lip-service/accolades in a few guidebooks, but as far as feats go, their limited showings in RoS are it. They might rack up some decent feats in the current comic series, but only time will tell there.

We also haven't seen "Ren" in action yet, so he's a complete wildcard as of now. I'm anxious to see how they do against Luke in the next book. Because if they do well against him then that will be a great feat as he supposed to be more powerful then Snoke (and Snoke is supposed to be on par with ROTJ Sidious).

I also want to know how strong Ren is.? He seems badass

Originally posted by Galan007
The KoR have been given some impressive lip-service/accolades in a few guidebooks, but as far as feats go, their limited showings in RoS are it. They might rack up some decent feats in the current comic series, but only time will tell there.

We also haven't seen "Ren" in action yet, so he's a complete wildcard as of now. I wonder if Ren is going to be a former Jedi or something.

Originally posted by Sheev
I'm anxious to see how they do against Luke in the next book. Because if they do well against him then that will be a great feat as he supposed to be more powerful then Snoke (and Snoke is supposed to be on par with ROTJ Sidious).

I also want to know how strong Ren is.? He seems badass


Snoke is a cripple though so would likely get destroyed by many a Jedi/Sith in a Saber fight.

Also I really hope Luke utterly stomps them.

Originally posted by Sheev
I'm anxious to see how they do against Luke in the next book. Because if they do well against him then that will be a great feat as he supposed to be more powerful then Snoke (and Snoke is supposed to be on par with ROTJ Sidious).

I also want to know how strong Ren is.? He seems badass

Where is it stated Luke is more powerful than Snoke?

Are we assuming Snoke is = to Palpatine because he is Palpatine?

The Praetorian slaughter them with ease

Originally posted by Forschbewithu
Where is it stated Luke is more powerful than Snoke?
In one of the comics Snoke tells Kylo that Luke's the one who ****ed up his face, and says he's afraid of him. There's a reasonable argument to be made that he was lying about all of that to turn him against Luke, though.

^Maybe he is referring to when Luke and Anakin defeated Palpatine in EP VI

Originally posted by Forschbewithu
Where is it stated Luke is more powerful than Snoke?

Are we assuming Snoke is = to Palpatine because he is Palpatine? It hasn't been stated outright. Just implied.


In Rise of Kylo Ren, when Ben first contacts Snoke after his betrayal, he states "look what Master Luke did to you..." after seeing his f*cked up appearance:
https://i.ibb.co/Mh4MZp8/Star-Wars-The-Rise-Of-Kylo-Ren-c001-NA-p031-dig-Marvel-a-Kraa-HQ.jpg

In the Ages series, after Kylo was already Snoke's apprentice, Snoke himself states that he respects AND fears Luke:
https://i.ibb.co/9TZxCq7/5760156.jpg


As for the Snoke = Palpatine thing: in Secrets of the Jedi, Luke states that Snoke's mastery of the dark side was "equally as impressive/terrifying" as Palpatine's:
https://i.ibb.co/Zd7c7Zq/20200110-145845.jpg

Originally posted by Galan007
It hasn't been stated outright. Just implied.


In Rise of Kylo Ren, when Ben first contacts Snoke after his betrayal, he states "look what Master Luke did to you..." after seeing his f*cked up appearance:
https://i.ibb.co/Mh4MZp8/Star-Wars-The-Rise-Of-Kylo-Ren-c001-NA-p031-dig-Marvel-a-Kraa-HQ.jpg

In the Ages series, after Kylo was already Snoke's apprentice, Snoke himself states that he respects AND fears Luke:
https://i.ibb.co/9TZxCq7/5760156.jpg


As for the Snoke = Palpatine thing: in Secrets of the Jedi, Luke states that Snoke's mastery of the dark side was "equally as impressive/terrifying" as Palpatine's:
https://i.ibb.co/Zd7c7Zq/20200110-145845.jpg

Thank you for taking the time to put that breakdown together! I read the comics, but never made the connection with Luke and Snoke. So they must have squared off at some point..... I hope we get to see it one day, as that would be a massive feat knowing Snoke = Palpatine.

Is Secrets of the Jedi worth buying?

Yeah, I mean the implication is that ST-era Luke > Snoke = RotJ Palpatine. If that ends up being confirmed, then it'll elevate canon Luke tremendously.

Secrets of the Jedi is a pretty good read for a guidebook, and has quite a bit of interesting info/tidbits. Keep in mind, though, that it's all written from Luke's perspective.

Good breakdown for sure

If Luke's fight against the KOR is an indication, then Luke might not have even been trying to kill Snoke either. So he may not have even been going all out against a Sidious level opponent. For all we know he could have just been toying with Snoke also.

Now THAT would be crazy!!

I'd rather not get that crazy with the speculation. As of now, the only implication is that ST-era Luke beat the christ out of Snoke at some point -- the "where/why/how" are still unknown factors right now... But whatever happened, it made Snoke respect AND fear Luke, which is telling.

As for Snoke's power: given the VAST wealth of knowledge that Luke had access to, I personally think his word on Force-related matters is pretty much irrefutable... So I fully trust his assertion that Snoke's power = Palpatine's. /shrug

Originally posted by Galan007
I'd rather not get that crazy with the speculation. As of now, the only implication is that ST-era Luke beat the christ out of Snoke at some point -- the "where/why/how" are still unknown factors right now... But whatever happened, it made Snoke respect AND fear Luke, which is telling.

As for Snoke's power: given the VAST wealth of knowledge that Luke had access to, I personally think his word on Force-related matters is pretty much irrefutable... So I fully trust his assertion that Snoke's power = Palpatine's. /shrug I see. That makes sense.