Is bug fighting animal cruelty?

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YousufKhan1212
On the internet, I have noticed that a lot of people have uploaded videos of arena fights between bugs as some kind of gladiator match with creatures like spiders, ants, wasps, scorpions, centipedes, beetles etc. on stuff like Monster Bug Wars and Japanese Bug Fighting. They deliberately make them clash with each other. Is that animal cruelty?

ArtificialGlory
I view bugs as little more than biological automatons, so no.

cdtm
Yes, it is cruelty.


A few friends cooked a jellyfish like an egg with a 50,000 watt flood light. It was absolutely an act of cruelty, because cruelty is defined more by intent. Making bugs fight in a death match is totally a cruel ass move.

DeadpoolXXX
nope.

**** bugs.

cdtm
Never kill a spider then.


Spiders eat bugs.

Jmanghan
Eh, yeah.

You're collecting them for the sake of watching them kill each other, that's pretty ****ed.

I try not to kill non-threatening bugs if I can help it, bugs that bite or sting will feel my wrath tho. Crickets get in all the time and I just pick them up and let em outside, to which my mom and sister freak out at.

dadudemon
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
I view bugs as little more than biological automatons, so no.

In my mind, bugs = all arthropods

Not all are dumb automatons. Some are very tiny but are absurdly intelligent like a slightly dumber cat: the Portia Spider.

Some are no better than biological automatons like almost every single ant species. Perhaps some species of the Bulldog ant are closer to intelligent spiders: they appear to be very intelligent.

Watch this Bulldog Ant stalk and kill a preying mantis by using it's massive jaws to immobilize the mantis' dangerous arms before stinging it with it's paralyzing neurotoxin:

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Making anything fight, that is "alive" is immoral, in my opinion. If we have robots obtain general artificial intelligence, even if quite dumb in the beginning, it will be wrong to make them fight as well.

StiltmanFTW
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snowdragon
Making bugs fight is appalling and I make sure to squash all bug fights....(with mah foot.)

eThneoLgrRnae
LOL. No, it is not animal cruelty because insects are not animals. They're... well... insects lol.

eThneoLgrRnae
Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
nope.

**** bugs.


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Adam Grimes
Originally posted by dadudemon
In my mind, bugs = all arthropods

Not all are dumb automatons. Some are very tiny but are absurdly intelligent like a slightly dumber cat: the Portia Spider.

Some are no better than biological automatons like almost every single ant species. Perhaps some species of the Bulldog ant are closer to intelligent spiders: they appear to be very intelligent.

Watch this Bulldog Ant stalk and kill a preying mantis by using it's massive jaws to immobilize the mantis' dangerous arms before stinging it with it's paralyzing neurotoxin:

RweY_IckTjQ




Making anything fight, that is "alive" is immoral, in my opinion. If we have robots obtain general artificial intelligence, even if quite dumb in the beginning, it will be wrong to make them fight as well. thumb up

Surtur
Originally posted by cdtm
Never kill a spider then.


Spiders eat bugs.

I know they do, but if I see one it's gotta die. I can't just let it go.

I didn't know people had bug fights. I mean...I dunno, I'd love to see a bear fight a tiger so I can't judge.

eThneoLgrRnae
Next we'll be hearing about leftist retards marching for "bug rights" lol.

Lord Lucien
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
LOL. No, it is not animal cruelty because insects are not animals. I know thinking is hard but try again, do your best, and one day you might not be such an embarrassment to your few functioning neurons.

eThneoLgrRnae
Insects are not animals, troll.

NemeBro
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Insects are not animals, troll. Yes they are you stupid moron. laughing out loud

Mindship
When I was a kid, there were some things I liked doing to bugs:

1. I'd roll two ants together to make them fight.
2. I'd throw a big bug into a mass of ants.
3. I'd throw a bug into a spider web.

These days I leave them be ... except if they're in my house. Then it's a swift and merciful death ... unless it's a spider. I either leave it alone, or pick it up gently with a tissue and deposit it outside.

Oh, and I wasn't always so kind to butterflies and Japanese beetles (especially the latter: I'd stick a pin in their butt and twirl it so they'd try to fly: I could observe their wing action close up. Butterflies/moths: I'd just rub the powder off their wings).

I never thought of any of this stuff as "cruel" (I mean, they're bugs, c'mon). Mostly, it was just fascinating to watch.

Jmanghan
Originally posted by Surtur
I know they do, but if I see one it's gotta die. I can't just let it go.

I didn't know people had bug fights. I mean...I dunno, I'd love to see a bear fight a tiger so I can't judge. Yeah if it was simulated but if two people gathered a bear and a tiger and trained them to kill the other they'd be pretty ****ed up, no?

Surtur
Originally posted by Jmanghan
but if two people gathered a bear and a tiger and trained them to kill the other they'd be pretty ****ed up, no?

Only if the bear loses...

Raptor22
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Insects are not animals, troll. every now and then a poll gets posted here that shows something insane like almost 50% of people think that the sun revolves around the earth and i think that there is no way anyone can be that dumb in this day and age.

Then i read one of your posts and it starts to become more believable.

Robtard
Four things:

-To the OP question: Yes, that would be considered animal cruelty

-Insects are classified under the "Animalia" Kingdom, so yes, they're animals too. Star/fly is just retarded

-I go out of my way to not kill spiders, they control pest. eg if they get in my house, I will remove without killing them

-The only insects I generally kill are nuisance insects like mosquitoes and flies

Bashar Teg
as someone who has boiled many blue crabs alive on at least a dozen occasions it's a difficult topic to address honestly without submitting to a hypocrisy, but yes I think it's cruel. particularly, the act of wasting any animal's life purely for the sake of amusement is pretty cruel/evil.

Surtur
i mean ur boiling the crabs to eat not cuz u are getting off on it.

Surtur
also if u believe in god u can blame him for this stuff tasting so good.

this is why peta best be full of atheists

Bashar Teg
I know but I believe that the crabs had it much worse than the pit-fighting bugs. therefore I argue from intent rather than severity. while we're on the topic, if I ever boil crab again I will take the time to stab them each in the brain first and risk the pinchers

Surtur
just keep the crab in your thoughts and prayers when u eat it

Stringer

Surtur
...kay? u gonna make even this about me?

oh hell i'll allow it smile

eThneoLgrRnae
Nah, insects are not animals no matter how many times retards keep repeating they are. I don't give a shit what the official classification system says. That same system also lumps humans in with animals because of Darwinian evolution nonsense lol so it means literally nothing to me. Retards like robbie can cry and stomp his feet over it all he likes, I don't care.


Humans are clearly above animals and animals are clearly above insects. Period.

Stringer
Originally posted by Surtur
...kay? u gonna make even this about me?

oh hell i'll allow it smile

Ok Judy, sounds about right

Surtur
Best part of living in Stringers head is the pinball machine, gotta say.

Oh and the wide open space.

cdtm
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
as someone who has boiled many blue crabs alive on at least a dozen occasions it's a difficult topic to address honestly without submitting to a hypocrisy, but yes I think it's cruel. particularly, the act of wasting any animal's life purely for the sake of amusement is pretty cruel/evil.


That's pretty much the gist of it.

Boiling lobsters alive may seem horrific, but not only is there purpose in the boiling, it's also humane in the sense you don't really suffer much from being flash boiled. If it happened to us, our fried nerves wouldn't register a thing.

Same deal with slaughtering cattle.

Surtur
I mean just don't go the "i murdered you humanely" route.

Just say they taste good and we won.

You wouldn't turn down a nice juicy lobster if they said "it suffered". Don't even pretend.

Robtard
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Nah, insects are not animals no matter how many times retards keep repeating they are. I don't give a shit what the official classification system says. That same system also lumps humans in with animals because of Darwinian evolution nonsense lol so it means literally nothing to me. Retards like robbie can cry and stomp his feet over it all he likes, I don't care.


Humans are clearly above animals and animals are clearly above insects. Period.

^ Typical Trumper mentality

Surtur
Identifying a thing that isn't a thing.

Sounds leftist, like folk saying men can be women and menstruate.

I'd almost advise any leftist to sit this one out.

Robtard

Stringer

Surtur

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Surtur
It would be less embarrassing for you guys if you took this convo to PM, so...please keep it out in the open smile

Stringer

Robtard

Surtur
Originally posted by Robtard
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I'm flattered you copied me smile

Surtur

Robtard
Originally posted by Surtur
I'm flattered you copied me smile https://media.tenor.com/images/e98f29fa9b1d7521f953ac8e9ff61015/tenor.gif

Surtur
Double down? Nice smile

Stringer

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Wonder Man
Introducing unknown elements into anything is a form of drug abuse weather done without drugs or not and used as a live theater.

Robtard
Originally posted by Surtur
Identifying a thing that isn't a thing.


Good lord, you too?

Google: "are insects animals"

cdtm
Bugs are no more animals then you are.

Wonder Man
God sent out a dove from the arc. It brought back a branch. That is where we are in evolution.

Surtur
Originally posted by Robtard
Good lord, you too?

Google: "are insects animals"

No not me I laughing at progressives who get genders wrong weighing in on this that was my point.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by cdtm
Bugs are no more animals then you are.

People who can't even spell "than" are less than animals thumb down

Prepare your anus.

Surtur
I just wanna see a bear in all its glory fight another animal.

Or play a banjo, but he has to play it well. I'm talking like "give that b*tch a Grammy" well.

Stringer
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
People who can't even spell "than" are less than animals thumb down

Prepare your anus.

Surtur will now move in for the kill

Wonder Man
A bear eats berries. eat one and have your dream.

Stringer
Originally posted by Robtard
Downloaded and watched this on Saturday morning. *Minor Spoilers Below*

It's not a good film by any means, but the main character's views, beliefs and mannerism are hilariously similar to several current and former KMC Rightist.

He hates and blames/scapegoats these people/beliefs as the cause for his own problems:

-Immigrants
-Muslims
-Black people
-Brown people
-Women
-Feminism
-Liberals
-Socialism
-Democrats
-Colleges
-The college educated


When he's just a loser who can't keep a job and spends most of his time online watching Far/Alt-Right youtube-compatiable talking heads or masturbating to porn.

At one point he manages to scrounge up enough cash to buy himself a gun which he claims is for protecting his safety, freedom and rights, but it's just an idol for him to mentally-masturbate his revenge murder fantasies over.

eThneoLgrRnae
A google search doesn't prove a god**** thing on this matter. I'm sure you could type in "Is Darwinian evolution a scientific fact?" and you'd get back many articles on front page claiming it is (when it clearly isn't).

You'll have to do better than that robbie if you wanna convince me to see bugs as animals lol.

Bashar Teg
all arthropods are part of the animal kingdom. that's a universally agreed fact among not only the biologist/scientific community, but anyone who graduated high school.

Stringer
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
A google search doesn't prove a god**** thing on this matter. I'm sure you could type in "Is Darwinian evolution a scientific fact?" and you'd get back many articles on front page claiming it is (when it clearly isn't).

You'll have to do better than that, robbie.

Are you ok?

derekpittx
I didn't know people had bug fights. I mean...I dunno, I'd love to see a bear fight a tiger so I can't judge.

Putinbot1
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
A google search doesn't prove a god**** thing on this matter. I'm sure you could type in "Is Darwinian evolution a scientific fact?" and you'd get back many articles on front page claiming it is (when it clearly isn't).

You'll have to do better than that robbie if you wanna convince me to see bugs as animals lol. dur Fly, this account of yours must be a parody... no one could be as dim as this account of yours is portrayed.

NemeBro
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Nah, insects are not animals no matter how many times retards keep repeating they are. I don't give a shit what the official classification system says. That same system also lumps humans in with animals because of Darwinian evolution nonsense lol so it means literally nothing to me. Retards like robbie can cry and stomp his feet over it all he likes, I don't care.


Humans are clearly above animals and animals are clearly above insects. Period. rjFv5Dw6u18

Jmanghan
Originally posted by NemeBro
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laughing laughing laughing

YousufKhan1212
Stop derailing my thread.

Robtard
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
all arthropods are part of the animal kingdom. that's a universally agreed fact among not only the biologist/scientific community, but anyone who graduated high school.

Even using Star/fly's favorite scientific book, the Bible, it categories insects as animals ie "beasts".

eg Leviticus on locust and grasshoppers being a kosher beast one can consume

eThneoLgrRnae
Originally posted by YousufKhan1212
Stop derailing my thread.

Surtur
No not animal cruelty:

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Raptor22
Originally posted by Robtard
Even using Star/fly's favorite scientific book, the Bible, it categories insects as animals ie "beasts".

eg Leviticus on locust and grasshoppers being a kosher beast one can consume yeah rob stop derailing the thread.

Discussing whether or not insects are animals has no place in a thread that's discussing whether or not insect fights count as animal cruelty. wink

Robtard
What can I say

eThneoLgrRnae
Originally posted by YousufKhan1212
Stop derailing my thread.

Bashar Teg
Originally posted by Raptor22
yeah rob stop derailing the thread.

Discussing whether or not insects are animals has no place in a thread that's discussing whether or not insect fights count as animal cruelty. wink

laughing out loud thumb up

eThneoLgrRnae
Insects are not animals.

Stop derailing the OP's thread.

Robtard
^ Should be noted that both science and the Abrahamic God disagree with Star/fly.

Bashar Teg
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Insects are not animals.

Stop derailing the OP's thread.

sure you're factually incorrect, but your fee-fees are very VERY special and everyone should take that into consideration.

cdtm
Speaking of animals, isn't the popular meme of people moving veeery cautiously at animals like the exact opposite of how you should act?


That's pretty much stalking behavior, a dog catcher is just begging for a dog to bolt.

Bashar Teg
I think it depends on the animal. For example, with big cats I believe you're supposed to maintain eye contact so that the cat knows that you know that it's there, or else it will go into kill mode if it thinks you're not paying attention. this same response might agitate a gorilla or dog into attacking/murdering you.

YousufKhan1212
Bugs are animals you dimwits.

YousufKhan1212
@Surtur: Take a gander and tell me if this has an impact on your views:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Yo-y_fZaBM

eThneoLgrRnae
Originally posted by YousufKhan1212
Bugs are animals you dimwits.


Nah, they aren't.

Putinbot1
Originally posted by YousufKhan1212
@Surtur: Take a gander and tell me if this has an impact on your views:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Yo-y_fZaBM The Trumper Squad hates Science.

Surtur
Originally posted by Putinbot1
The Trumper Squad hates Science.

Please explain where the science hating is lol.

YousufKhan1212
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Nah, they aren't.

They are, they have brains, nervous systems and other body functions. They're very primal animals, but animals nonetheless.

Putinbot1
Originally posted by YousufKhan1212
They are, they have brains, nervous systems and other body functions. They're very primal animals, but animals nonetheless. Even ****ing sponges are animals really.

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