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comhat speed, reflexes only

no travel speed

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https://i.postimg.cc/3WptR3z2/FL-FORWARD-1-1-1.jpg

True Ultra Instinct or Ultra Instinct Sign?

Flash is faster than speed doe.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
True Ultra Instinct or Ultra Instinct Sign?

True

Travel speed is a pointless distinction if the person is physically running at that speed.

They are moving their limbs (arms included) at that speed. Its physically applicable speed in any situation.

But you're talking about comics in which there are plenty of superspeed runners that suck in combat situations.

Wally got raped by a retarded ape...

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
But you're talking about comics in which there are plenty of superspeed runners that suck in combat situations.

Wally got raped by a retarded ape...

A retarted Ape that would mind **** 90% of the dbz verse since they lack any tp feats.

Hell, Vegeta was casually manipulated by Babidi by just appealing to his hubris.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
But you're talking about comics in which there are plenty of superspeed runners that suck in combat situations.

Wally got raped by a retarded ape...

No one denies comic writers absolutely suck at power scaling 9/10 times.

Originally posted by SquallX
A retarted Ape that would mind **** 90% of the dbz verse since they lack any tp feats.

Hell, Vegeta was casually manipulated by Babidi by just appealing to his hubris.

Have you even watched it?

Vegeta allowed Babidi to mess with him, so he would receive the Majin amp... and he broke free from Babidi's control exactly when he wanted to.

Grodd couldn't even stop Dickwing from knocking out his teeth...

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0:30 - 1:20

Have you ever been right about anything on this forum, Squall?

ultra instinct is way faster... in fact , when goku completely mastered ultra instinct he evaded with the greatest of ease, and matched jiren real easily


Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
INlntMXEe_I

0:30 - 1:20

Have you ever been right about anything on this forum, Squall?

i remember that





i remember that very well

Squall doesn't remember shit.

Doesn't matter if it's Marvel, DC or anime...

--
So we know that Vegeta got possessed willingly.

And as soon as a clear conflict of interest emerged between them, Vegeta refused to follow Babidi's orders and broke free from his control:

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Vegeta got possessed because that was a part of his plan... which was made painfully clear.

As for the rest:

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
So we know that Vegeta got possessed willingly.

And as soon as a clear conflict of interest emerged between them, Vegeta refused to follow Babidi's orders and broke free from his control:

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https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/scale_super/0/7604/1775803-outsidersviii3.jpg

https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/scale_super/0/7604/1775805-outsidersviii3i.jpg

https://i.imgflip.com/3ti50j.jpg

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/scale_super/0/7604/1775803-outsidersviii3.jpg

https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/scale_super/0/7604/1775805-outsidersviii3i.jpg

https://i.imgflip.com/3ti50j.jpg

Stop behaving like a ****ing child all the time! But the fact that you posted that pic proves you never will.

Start reading/watching stuff you are so desperately trying to discuss here.

This is hardly the first time you've been caught not knowing what the **** you're talking about.

Is this a joke topic? Iron Fist and Elektra have better feats then Goku. No one in Dragon Ball is light speed except Dypso, and that's not his reflexes or perception but running speed,he can only sprint in a linear straight line.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
comhat speed, reflexes only

no travel speed

https://i.postimg.cc/jn5qM8Vb/Ultra-Instinct.gif

https://i.postimg.cc/3WptR3z2/FL-FORWARD-1-1-1.jpg


I'm the biggest Dragon Ball fan on the planet. Take it from one who's seen every show, read every manga and tie in.

ANY Flash rapes, badly.


Superman is slower then Flash, and he rapes in speed.

Captain America and Wolverine, they rape in speed.

facepalm

lol Are we going by looks? What are some quantifiable feats Ultra Instinct characters have as far as combat speed?

We have plenty for Flash.

https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11112/111123678/4329024-2626780-324169_grodd_takes_flash_hits_super.jpg

Full capacity, Stilt. Don't make me rape you with the rules.

Flash still needs to think to dodge or at least feel something making contact with his body (like that bullet scratching the back of his head).

UI is fully automatic, it's not even muscle memory Wonder Woman shit, it's much more.

But Alberto messed the whole thing up by posting an Ultra Instinct Sign in the OP, which is *not* the proper Ultra Instinct mode facepalm

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Full capacity, Stilt. Don't make me rape you with the rules.


Damn right.


As if Goku doesn't have bad showings:


https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-7d9c04e7c4996ad0b074304cc57610ab.webp

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Flash still needs to think to dodge or at least feel something making contact with his body (like that bullet scratching the back of his head).

UI is fully automatic, it's not even muscle memory Wonder Woman shit, it's much more.

But Alberto messed the whole thing up by posting an Ultra Instinct Sign in the OP, which is *not* the proper Ultra Instinct mode facepalm


Jiren beat it by being faster.

Originally posted by cdtm
Damn right.


As if Goku doesn't have bad showings:


https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-7d9c04e7c4996ad0b074304cc57610ab.webp

Powered down, got blindsided and it was way before he mastered SSJB, let alone UI.

Originally posted by cdtm
Jiren beat it by being faster.

Flashes were never untouchable.

Originally posted by cdtm
ANY Flash rapes, badly.

Garrick and Kid Flashes could maybe rape a guy like Iron Fist, but not Goku.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
No one denies comic writers absolutely suck at power scaling 9/10 times.

Agreed.


Alberto, my reputation in the Anime/Manga thread is well known, just take it from me.

Flash has higher highs and lower lows

Originally posted by cdtm
You should have seen him in the Dragon Ball Super thread.

You should remember yourself, when you got your account restricted and told to gtfo

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You should remember yourself, when you got your account restricted and told to gtfo



He wasn't protecting the thread from me. He was protecting me from the thread.

Galan never said I was wrong about anything I said about the crazies there, for the record.

Originally posted by cdtm
He wasn't protecting the thread from me. He was protecting me from the thread.

Galan never said I was wrong about anything I said about the crazies there, for the record.



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Originally posted by NemeBro
Vegeta was never controlled by Babidi, he allowed Babidi into his head for the boost in power and was in the pilot's seat from then on. You don't know what you're talking about so just shut the hell up.



This

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Flash still needs to think to dodge or at least feel something making contact with his body (like that bullet scratching the back of his head).

UI is fully automatic, it's not even muscle memory Wonder Woman shit, it's much more.

But Alberto messed the whole thing up by posting an Ultra Instinct Sign in the OP, which is *not* the proper Ultra Instinct mode facepalm

But that's not what the OP said.

OP asks who is faster. So if you're honestly, seriously using a Flash who hasn't activated his powers (i.e. human level) then that's idiotic.

But the post goes further and says: "combat speed, reflexes only".

UI allows you to evade attacks without thinking about it. Goku learned it so easily, as he's missing most of his brain

Wally's greatest flaw is that he thinks -- and talks -- too much.

Originally posted by h1a8
lol Are we going by looks? What are some quantifiable feats Ultra Instinct characters have as far as combat speed?

We have plenty for Flash.

Goku is faster. Burter would smoke 90 percent of DC characters.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
But the post goes further and says: "combat speed, reflexes only".

UI allows you to evade attacks without thinking about it. Goku learned it so easily, as he's missing most of his brain

Wally's greatest flaw is that he thinks -- and talks -- too much.


Jiren caught him alright.

Originally posted by JBL
Goku is faster. Burter would smoke 90 percent of DC characters.


No proof of this. No real evidence they even break light speed, let alone reach the femtosecond/attosecond levels of a Flash.

Originally posted by h1a8


Move so fast that someone who goes 1000s of times than the speed of light didnt see him flinch. Was moving his limbs and body so fast that beings that moves much faster than light thought he was standing still. No one in comics does these things.

Originally posted by JBL
Goku is faster. Burter would smoke 90 percent of DC characters.

Yep

You realize a snail can go "thousands of times faster" and still come nowhere near light speed.

Flash having to 'think' or whatever shouldn't be a hindrance here... Not when the Speed Force allows him to think so fast that he can literally calculate an infinite amount of battle scenarios in the span of a single page/panel:
https://i.imgur.com/qzZqquW.jpg

The fact that Jerin could react to UI Goku tells you that he could not only see him, but move his body in time in order to barely dodge tells you that his movement is not "near instantaneous".

Final Flash and MUI would be about equal

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
The fact that Jerin could react to UI Goku tells you that he could not only see him, but move his body in time in order to barely dodge tells you that his movement is not "near instantaneous".

When? I thought Ultra Instinct prevents you from getting hit?

UI doesn't make Goku unhittable. It just makes him a lot harder to hit *see his fight with 'limit breaker' Jiren*.

Originally posted by Galan007
Flash having to 'think' or whatever shouldn't be a hindrance here... Not when the Speed Force allows him to think so fast that he can literally calculate an infinite amount of battle scenarios in the span of a single page/panel:
https://i.imgur.com/qzZqquW.jpg

He's overanalyzing shit... so that's why he keeps getting tagged by everyone, from slow bricks to talking apes.

Thanks, Galan. I can always count on you

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f4/8b/40/f48b40d3625e535bbc80a6b30135b666.gif

The lowballed of DC characters, and the wank of dragon ball is outstanding.

Flash is till the Sam guy that sees the world in slow motion if he wants too. The same guy that can time travel. The same guy that can go femto, pico casually, yet DBZ who has no definite speed explanations is beating that?

The fact that jbl and carver are saying Burter, a d list character can smoke 90% of DC characters proves the wank that is dbz.

Originally posted by JBL
Goku is faster. Burter would smoke 90 percent of DC characters.

Originally posted by carver9
Yep

LOL OK this is blatant trolling, stop it THAT is THE dumbest shit i ever heard on this site. you guys CANT be serious cmon

I'm sure JBL was playing. Get out of your feelings.

Is Hulk Hulk?

Yes, lol, Hulk is Hulk. Glad the new title shed some light on that.

Originally posted by carver9
Move so fast that someone who goes 1000s of times than the speed of light didnt see him flinch. Was moving his limbs and body so fast that beings that moves much faster than light thought he was standing still. No one in comics does these things.
So off scaling of others so called reaction speeds? Yet we can't scale DD to Superman's reactions?


Prove that these beings who you are scaling off of fight at light speed or beyond. Not travel speed.

Originally posted by carver9
I'm sure JBL was playing. Get out of your feelings.



Please keep Alberto in check more

Originally posted by h1a8
So off scaling of others so called reaction speeds? Yet we can't scale DD to Superman's reactions?


Prove that these beings who you are scaling off of fight at light speed or beyond. Not travel speed.

Scaling? If a character was outright said to be moving much faster than the speed of light during combat and people were still able to see him and react to him while he was moving at these speeds, then that means that person is either > or = to that speed. Now if someone that is much faster than light cant even react to another person speed, then that means the person he cant react to is faster. This is common sense. Goku was fighting and moving his limbs so fast that a much faster than light character saw him as standing still in place when he was actually combating. Do you get it. A character that is much faster than light thought Goku was standing still but he was actually punching and kicking and slapping away attacks. Imagine if Zod and Superman was in the air fighting at super speed but Wonder Woman saw an image of Superman and Zod standing on the ground staring at each other, for a while.

Stop debating on things you have no clue about. Why would you ask me to prove that Dypso is the FTL. Everyone knows this. This thread isnt for you.

for the uninitiated,,,

goku in full ultra instinct glory...

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Originally posted by Galan007
Flash having to 'think' or whatever shouldn't be a hindrance here... Not when the Speed Force allows him to think so fast that he can literally calculate an infinite amount of battle scenarios in the span of a single page/panel:
https://i.imgur.com/qzZqquW.jpg

That's the issue:
Flash, Barry Allen, must think before acting. And it nearly cost his life, since he must chose one scenario among an infinite numbers. Especially since it is not stated how fast his brain process to chose among an infinite number of possibilities. Only that it is "fast", so the issue is "how fast".
While state of mind like Ultra Instinct enables you to act before thinking. Goku brain is still in process, but on a very short of time that it seems instantaneously.

Reminds me a little of Midnighter.

Supposed to be unbeatable on forums, too. Yet Dick humiliated that pussy.

The point is that Flash can think so fast that he can literally calculate/process infinity... In a single page. IOW, Flash's conscious 'thought' won't be an issue.


There's also the fact that Goku could only use true UI for a very short period of time during the ToP...

At the beginning of ep.129, there were only 2 minutes remaining in the ToP. Goku didn't attain true UI until the very end of ep.129, and couldn't even sustain it for the entirety of ep.130. The ToP officially ended in ep.131.

IOW, Goku could probably only wield true UI for like 20-30 seconds in real time before he experienced that wicked backlash and powered down.

https://66.media.tumblr.com/a650590e3f62244de121e46356a22944/tumblr_pos32n9n3x1rvm5qqo1_640.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/jqGMKVJT/RCO004-1468809892.jpg

Originally posted by cdtm
I'm the biggest Dragon Ball fan on the planet. Take it from one who's seen every show, read every manga and tie in.

ANY Flash rapes, badly.


Superman is slower then Flash, and he rapes in speed.

Captain America and Wolverine, they rape in speed.

I know you didn't just legitimately say Capt America was faster than GOKU

Not to mention even if he had indefinite UI, assuming his upper speed limits is anywhere near a Flash is a No Limits Falicy.



Super made a huge deal about light speed. Do you have any idea how far above light speed a femtosecond is?

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
I know you didn't just legitimately say Capt America was faster than GOKU


Cap outruns bullets. Never seen Goku do that.

He is millions of times faster than Classic Roshi, who did this:

https://media0.giphy.com/media/RnwNQhaxbKNcQ/source.gif

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Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He is millions of times faster than Classic Roshi, who did this:

https://media0.giphy.com/media/RnwNQhaxbKNcQ/source.gif



But that isn't outrunning a bullet.

Originally posted by Galan007
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Was that when Krillin got shot?

^ DBS ep.77.

Originally posted by cdtm
But that isn't outrunning a bullet.

It's better.

Not only Cap can't sustain speeds you mentioned, his feats can be dismantled.

Originally posted by Galan007
^ DBS ep.77.

Stop feeding the troll and just strangle Force-choke him again, please.

Can you really base speed from a single page? It's not really an indicator imo but eh

2020, and people arguing against the notion Goku isn't a casual bullet timer?

You've gotta be kidding me

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
2020, and people arguing against the notion Goku isn't a casual bullet timer?

You've gotta be kidding me

Cdtm ain't people.

He's lost his mind since DBS started.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Cdtm ain't people.

He's lost his mind since DBS started.

that universal feat still got the dc fans salty huh

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Can you really base speed from a single page? It's not really an indicator imo but eh Typically when something is shown taking place in the span of a single page/panel, the clear intent is that it is happening nigh-instantaneously.

Current Goku UI Omen was so fast that Gohan wasn't able to perceive him or sense him

https://i.postimg.cc/344t9Xnq/ghb.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/hhmCd0Jz/hub.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/6yLYH5fB/3rd.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/Xp3gy6Sm/4s.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/dDcfnXcm/suy.jpg

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
2020, and people arguing against the notion Goku isn't a casual bullet timer?

You've gotta be kidding me Casual bullet-catching in DB takes Raditz-level power at most.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Current Goku UI Omen was so fast that Gohan wasn't able to perceive him or sense him

https://i.postimg.cc/344t9Xnq/ghb.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/hhmCd0Jz/hub.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/6yLYH5fB/3rd.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/Xp3gy6Sm/4s.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/dDcfnXcm/suy.jpg Now you're confusing me.

Is this current DBS Goku, whose power is FAAAAR beyond what it was during the ToP(to the point where Merus --an Angel-- was about to spar with him at full power), or is this ToP-era Goku(as shown in the OP)..?

Originally posted by Galan007
Casual bullet-catching in DB takes Raditz-level power at most.

Would you say Goku's currently around the trillions range of MFTL or quadrillions?

I see a lot of calcs where he gets scaled from beerus/Whis travel speed feats putting him in the MFTL range

I don't even try to calculate/quantify speed... Especially in DBS.

Originally posted by Galan007
Now you're confusing me.

Is this current DBS Goku, whose power is FAAAAR beyond what it was during the ToP(to the point where Merus --an Angel-- was about to spar with him at full power), or is this ToP-era Goku(as shown in the OP)..?

New chapter so current Goku.

this is UI Omen Goku

I never rly specified an arc, but i'll edit if needed

We have absolutely no clue what Goku is capable of right now.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
It's better.

Not only Cap can't sustain speeds you mentioned, his feats can be dismantled.


Book marking this for next time Cap vs Iron Fist comes up.

We're already on the fifth page and only now Alberto realizes he posted a wrong gif.

Great job, Alberto. You have my permission to die now.

https://i.postimg.cc/xc8TTqpd/zde.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/xqxn7njV/suy.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/ftWQ2g6b/uts.jpg

Yeah but said speed and thats a speed feat.
Does anyone remember if Gohan and others were able to perceive Goku back in ToParc?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
We're already on the fifth page and only now Alberto realizes he posted a wrong gif.

Great job, Alberto. You have my permission to die now.

Originally posted by cdtm
Book marking this for next time Cap vs Iron Fist comes up.

The exact same thing can be said about IF and his feats.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Current Goku UI Omen was so fast that Gohan wasn't able to perceive him or sense him

https://i.postimg.cc/344t9Xnq/ghb.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/hhmCd0Jz/hub.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/6yLYH5fB/3rd.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/Xp3gy6Sm/4s.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/dDcfnXcm/suy.jpg

People dont know how insane this ft is. Let's put it like this, Gohan was not only able to see a full powered Dypso, he was able to hit him, block attack, and hold him while Dypso speed was amplified much faster than light. He cant even see Goku here.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Does anyone remember if Gohan and others were able to perceive Goku back in ToParc? The Z Fighters seemed to be able to perceive Jiren and UI Goku just fine during the ToP:
https://i.imgur.com/nSEpgCA.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/IZtnIka.jpg


But we obviously know that Goku is massively stronger now than he was during the ToP. We just don't know the extent of his power yet.

Originally posted by Galan007
The Z Fighters seemed to be able to perceive Jiren and UI Goku just fine during the ToP:
https://i.imgur.com/nSEpgCA.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/IZtnIka.jpg


But we obviously know that Goku is massively stronger now than he was during the ToP. We just don't know the extent of his power yet.

There was a point in the TOP (weaker stages of Jiren and Goku) where the Z fighters couldnt see them moving, the Gods nor the Angel's couldn't see Goku or Jiren combating. It's the scene before Goku went Master U.I.

Originally posted by Galan007
The Z Fighters seemed to be able to perceive Jiren and UI Goku just fine during the ToP:
https://i.imgur.com/nSEpgCA.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/IZtnIka.jpg


But we obviously know that Goku is massively stronger now than he was during the ToP. We just don't know the extent of his power yet.

Gohan and others were able to perceive UI Omen and some portion of MUI Goku but they couldn't see them when Jiren powered up and fought MUI.

https://i.postimg.cc/XpyVRmDH/sase.jpg

Originally posted by Galan007
But we obviously know that Goku is massively stronger now than he was during the ToP.

I lol'd when Goku gave Piccolo and Gohan props for getting stronger

He's such a nice guy, he won't tell them how much they suck.

Originally posted by carver9
There was a point in the TOP (weaker stages of Jiren and Goku) where the Z fighters couldnt see them moving, the Gods nor the Angel's couldn't see Goku or Jiren combating. It's the scene before Goku went Master U.I.


This kind of thing is common in manga though. Kenshin is known for "moves so fast no one can see" trope.



Ranma Saotome dismantled an entire house literally under the feet of the residents, faster then they can perceive.

We get it... you dont like DB CDTM. Move on.

Originally posted by carver9
We get it... you dont like DB CDTM. Move on.


I don't like Carver logic.


Galan, Ranma used to be pretty well talked about in battle forums. Tell Carver about Ranma Saotome's speed feats.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I lol'd when Goku gave Piccolo and Gohan props for getting stronger

He's such a nice guy, he won't tell them how much they suck. "Boy, you guys sure got stronger!! You're still completely useless, though."

The others make sense, but kind of hard to believe Android 17 is that useless.

The power-levels have just scaled up THAT much since the ToP.

Saganbo(with his first Moro amp) was casually wrecking Gohan + Piccolo + the Androids -- and manga Gohan alone was equal to Kefla during the ToP... Then Goku arrives and effortlessly trounces Sanganbo(after a few more amps), while greatly suppressing his power.

This arc makes even ToP power-scaling look absolutely mediocre in comparison.

Originally posted by cdtm
I don't like Carver logic.

It's not carver logic, when entire KMC gangbangs you whenever DB is discussed.

Originally posted by Galan007
The power-levels have just scaled up THAT much since the ToP.

Saganbo(with his first Moro amp) was casually wrecking Gohan + Piccolo + the Androids -- and manga Gohan alone was equal to Kefla during the ToP... Then Goku arrives and effortlessly trounces Sanganbo(after a few more amps), while greatly suppressing his power.

This arc makes even ToP power-scaling look absolutely mediocre in comparison.

Yeah ****ing Gohan stalemated Kelfa who >>> blue.
And Moro is casually capable of giving away energy that can make a fodder strong enough to beat all the U7 fighters aside from Goku and Vegeta.
And Moro considers that amount of energy as insignificant

The rate at which the power level increased is ridiculous.

To be fair now... aside from Goku and Vegeta... nobody really matters in DBS.

Originally posted by Galan007
The power-levels have just scaled up THAT much since the ToP.

Saganbo(with his first Moro amp) was casually wrecking Gohan + Piccolo + the Androids -- and manga Gohan alone was equal to Kefla during the ToP... Then Goku arrives and effortlessly trounces Sanganbo(after a few more amps), while greatly suppressing his power.

This arc makes even ToP power-scaling look absolutely mediocre in comparison.

Can you link me to where you're seeing the manga?

Galan will link you to some ransomware virus to get rid of you

Originally posted by cdtm
Cap outruns bullets. Never seen Goku do that.

So Goku catching bullets doesnt count to you, are you stupid, blind or ignorant?

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Yeah ****ing Gohan stalemated Kelfa who >>> blue.
And Moro is casually capable of giving away energy that can make a fodder strong enough to beat all the U7 fighters aside from Goku and Vegeta.
And Moro considers that amount of energy as insignificant

The rate at which the power level increased is ridiculous. Crazy part is that I'm sure Vegeta will be just as powerful as Goku(just with different abilities), and I fully expect Moro to still be more powerful than both of them.

Imo, Moro is definitely operating in the tier of Angel-level power now. /shrug

Originally posted by carver9
Can you link me to where you're seeing the manga? I hate how VIZ formats the chapters, so this is where I usually read/download it:
http://kissmanga.xyz/dragon-ball-super/chapter-58

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
So Goku catching bullets doesnt count to you, are you stupid, blind or ignorant?

He doesnt need to outrun bullets. Goku as a child outran the solar flare (solar energy).

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/51439263/a1mlnCs.jpg.html
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/51439264/5982088.jpg.html
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/51439265/uGzA4wg.jpg.html
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/51439266/tFZRi1h.jpg.html

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Galan will link you to some ransomware virus to get rid of you

... I can see that happening. About to click on his link. If you never see me again, it was nice knowing you all.

Originally posted by Galan007
Crazy part is that I'm sure Vegeta will be just as powerful as Goku(just with different abilities), and I fully expect Moro to still be more powerful than both of them.

Imo, Moro is definitely operating in the tier of Angel-level power now. /shrug

I hate how VIZ formats the chapters, so this is where I usually read/download it:
http://kissmanga.xyz/dragon-ball-super/chapter-58

What about Kissmanga dot com, G007?

Same updates or xyz is better?

Originally posted by Galan007
Crazy part is that I'm sure Vegeta will be just as powerful as Goku(just with different abilities), and I fully expect Moro to still be more powerful than both of them.

Imo, Moro is definitely operating in the tier of Angel-level power now. /shrug

I hate how VIZ formats the chapters, so this is where I usually read/download it:
http://kissmanga.xyz/dragon-ball-super/chapter-58

xD Literally played merry go round with 4 of them

https://i.postimg.cc/2VKS2grS/plo.jpg

Personally I feel like he might be haxier not necessarily stronger than UI Omen Goku

I like Alberto now since he at least reads Dragon ball, and Im happy you lived up to your BZ challenge bet.

The chapters are uploaded there just as quick as VIZ site, and it has always been reliable for me.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
It's not carver logic, when entire KMC gangbangs you whenever DB is discussed.


Nah, Carver talks out of his ass on everything, DB is no exception.


He's acting like vanishing is some amazing feat, when anyone who's read any manga ever knows it isn't that special. Read some Ranma, he eats an entire seven course meal in front of an audience of masters and is never observed chewing the food or even putting it in his mouth, or force feeding his opponent.


Or Cyborg 009, where an entire week goes by in an instant when stuck at super speed.

^you were saying Goku couldnt catch bullets?

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
I like Alberto now since he at least reads Dragon ball, and Im happy you lived up to your BZ challenge bet.

thanks and

I can't wait til DBS returns

Originally posted by Galan007
The chapters are uploaded there just as quick as VIZ site, and it has always been reliable for me.


Sure, if you have a good ad blocker. And sometimes even that isn't enough.


Only time I can ever read Kiss Manga is if I block cookies completely, after initially loading the site.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
^you were saying Goku couldnt catch bullets?


I said outrun.

Originally posted by cdtm
Sure, if you have a good ad blocker. And sometimes even that isn't enough.


Only time I can ever read Kiss Manga is if I block cookies completely, after initially loading the site. I've never had any issues with adds. /shrug

Originally posted by cdtm
I said outrun.

Why does he need to run from bullets and how is that even applicable? I swear I get banned for doing some mediocre bashing, but your trolling never ends and Galan never bans you.

Originally posted by Galan007
I've never had any issues with adds. /shrug


Are you reading on a pc with ublock origin? Not sure if that's even possible since they do anti ad blocker messages.

I get webjacked to an ad site all the time on my ipad.

Originally posted by cdtm
Cap outruns bullets. Never seen Goku do that.

This was arguably the most ignorant statement ive seen on the site, and YOU'RE actually serious about that.

Originally posted by cdtm
Nah, Carver talks out of his ass on everything, DB is no exception.


He's acting like vanishing is some amazing feat, when anyone who's read any manga ever knows it isn't that special. Read some Ranma, he eats an entire seven course meal in front of an audience of masters and is never observed chewing the food or even putting it in his mouth, or force feeding his opponent.


Or Cyborg 009, where an entire week goes by in an instant when stuck at super speed.

Stop talking about Carver.

The whole legion of KMCers stands against you in DB threads.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Personally I feel like he might be haxier not necessarily stronger than UI Omen Goku Moro is going to be wickedly powerful across the board now that he's spent all these months devouring worlds and such. Remember, he was restored back to full power back in chapter 48... Everything he's absorbed since then has essentially been a massive amp.

An insignificant micro-fraction of Moro's power > ALL the Z Fighters combined, ffs(not including Goku and Vegeta, obvs.)

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Stop talking about Carver.

The whole legion of KMCers stands against you in DB threads.


When he says something blatantly wrong like this:



Originally posted by carver9
There was a point in the TOP (weaker stages of Jiren and Goku) where the Z fighters couldnt see them moving, the Gods nor the Angel's couldn't see Goku or Jiren combating. It's the scene before Goku went Master U.I.



Warrents a response.



Vanishing is nothing. Too common in manga.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
This was arguably the most ignorant statement ive seen on the site, and YOU'RE actually serious about that.

He's 100% trolling and nobody cares

Originally posted by cdtm
He wasn't protecting the thread from me. He was protecting me from the thread.

Galan never said I was wrong about anything I said about the crazies there, for the record. \

Bullshit, you got banned for this stupid shit. And everyone lets you get away with it because who knows.

Originally posted by cdtm
I'm the biggest Dragon Ball fan on the planet. Take it from one who's seen every show, read every manga and tie in.

ANY Flash rapes, badly.


Superman is slower then Flash, and he rapes in speed.

Captain America and Wolverine, they rape in speed.

You complain about carver, then say dumb stupid shit like this.

What about when you say stuff like this?

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
He's 100% trolling and nobody cares

does he have a history with hating on db or is this a one time thing

Yes 100% that's all he does, he watches DB only to troll DB fans because he's a huge Superman fanboy, and because he complains about his health 24/7 everyone feels sorry for him.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
He's 100% trolling and nobody cares

He just recently found out that Danny Rand is far from the only street with bullet feats (after them being fired), so he got butthurt.

And it's not even trolling, it has its own name, it's cdtming.

So I'd actually like to keep this open(even though it technically shouldn't be here), but please cut down on the bashing or else I'll have to close it.

I guess Im the one who is bashing now by calling out his lying and trolling, go figure.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He just recently found out that Danny Rand is far from the only street with bullet feats (after them being fired), so he got butthurt.

And it's not even trolling, it has its own name, it's cdtming.

smh

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
I guess Im the one who is bashing now by calling out his lying and trolling, go figure. You're not the only one bashing.

Just saying that I won't be able to leave the thread open if it continues.

Wrong forum. Should be closed or moved

Its not goku vs superman though

So?

Originally posted by cdtm
Nah, Carver talks out of his ass on everything, DB is no exception.


He's acting like vanishing is some amazing feat, when anyone who's read any manga ever knows it isn't that special. Read some Ranma, he eats an entire seven course meal in front of an audience of masters and is never observed chewing the food or even putting it in his mouth, or force feeding his opponent.


Or Cyborg 009, where an entire week goes by in an instant when stuck at super speed.

What's the difference in moving so fast that Daredevil cant see you vs moving so fast Flash cant see you?