Whis or Flash speed comparison

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AlbertoJohnAvil

carver9
Nobody in DC or Marvel fight anywhere close to the way DB characters fight when it comes to combat speed.

cdtm
Originally posted by carver9
Nobody in DC or Marvel fight anywhere close to the way DB characters fight when it comes to combat speed.


Prove it.

StiltmanFTW
Whis > talking monkeys (that includes saiyans) > flash

cdtm
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Whis > talking monkeys (that includes saiyans) > flash

This is actually a much higher level of logic then I believe Carver is capable of.

carver9
Originally posted by cdtm
Prove it.

Krillin and Master Roshi explained everything that happened in an instant. They did an entire combat scene while also playing rock paper scissors in less than a second...

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This is them at less than. 00000000001 percent of their power. smile

carver9
Tien is looking right at Goku and while the attack goes off (solar energy mind you), Goku not only outruns the attack, he grabs Roshi glasses who was in the audience (and was also blinded by the attack), run back to the middle of the ring, put the glasses on so that the SOLAR ENERGY doesn't touch or blind him.

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StiltmanFTW
Technically... Goku lost by self-bfr'ing himself there cool

carver9
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Technically... Goku lost by self-bfr'ing himself there cool

I didnt even think of that. Good observing there Stilt.

h1a8
Originally posted by carver9
Tien is looking right at Goku and while the attack goes off (solar energy mind you), Goku not only outruns the attack, he grabs Roshi glasses who was in the audience (and was also blinded by the attack), run back to the middle of the ring, put the glasses on so that the SOLAR ENERGY doesn't touch or blind him.

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1. How do you know the solar energy or whatever never touched Goku?
2. Why would that be faster than Flash? Flash has literally saved thousands of people going back and forth for many miles before a hydrogen bomb detonates fully (radiation comes out at the speed of light).

RadZoa
Most DB Characters aren't even light speed

MrMind
Originally posted by RadZoa
Most DB Characters aren't even light speed

welcome back dude, haven't seen you in a long time

cdtm
Originally posted by carver9
Tien is looking right at Goku and while the attack goes off (solar energy mind you), Goku not only outruns the attack, he grabs Roshi glasses who was in the audience (and was also blinded by the attack), run back to the middle of the ring, put the glasses on so that the SOLAR ENERGY doesn't touch or blind him.

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Where does it say Goku outran the attack?

Why couldn't he be slower then the attack, but faster then Tien making his pose?

And how do you prove Tien can perform the pose at light speed?

playa1258
Dragon ball continues to be one of the most terrible fan bases in fiction.

However the fan bases from the MCU and OPM are catching up.

cdtm
Originally posted by playa1258
Dragon ball continues to be one of the most terrible fan bases in fiction.

However the fan bases from the MCU and OPM are catching up.

OPM are pretty easy by comparison, because they don't have a leg to stand on. Any reasonably intelligent poster can dismantle them, or hit them with better gag manga (Like Arale from Doctor Slump)


MCU can be an annoyance.

carver9
Originally posted by h1a8
1. How do you know the solar energy or whatever never touched Goku?
2. Why would that be faster than Flash? Flash has literally saved thousands of people going back and forth for many miles before a hydrogen bomb detonates fully (radiation comes out at the speed of light).

He would've been blinded, that's how I know.

Who said anything about Flash (who still doesn't have great combat speed showings compared to Z family). Z fighters fight like they are teleporting.

cdtm
If it never touched him, he wouldn't need the glasses.

carver9
Originally posted by cdtm
If it never touched him, he wouldn't need the glasses.

Tien was looking right at him. We've discussed this before. Leave this to the big boys to talk about and sit on the side lines. No one wants to discuss anything DB related with you.

cdtm
Originally posted by carver9
Tien was looking right at him. We've discussed this before. Leave this to the big boys to talk about and sit on the side lines. No one wants to discuss anything DB related with you.


If he outran light, why the glasses?

Why sit there with his glasses on and wait for the light to hit him, if he can outrun it?

AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by carver9
Nobody in DC or Marvel fight anywhere close to the way DB characters fight when it comes to combat speed. THATS ridiculous

playa1258
Flash easily.

carver9
Originally posted by cdtm
If he outran light, why the glasses?

Why sit there with his glasses on and wait for the light to hit him, if he can outrun it?

Because if he was caught outside or the ring, its self bfr. He should've lost the fight but the judges didn't know he ran outside of the ring to get the glasses because he was standing in the same spot when the attack went off. Look at the fight again and come back to me and talk about it. Look at the entire tournament and dissect the rules and then come back and talk to me.

carver9
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
THATS ridiculous

Fast forward to 25 min and 15 seconds. Watch it all the way to 26 min and 40 seconds.

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If you had to choose one person from Marvel to repeat what Frieza did here, who can you see doing it.

Second question. The explosion that happened, during the instant the explosion went off, Goku broke free and outran the blast. He outpaced the entire explosion. Who can repeat that? Being in the heart of the explosion and outrunning it. Flash is one. Who else and why? COMBAT SHOWINGS.

carver9
Frieza attacks look like he is teleporting at super speed.

cdtm
Originally posted by playa1258
Dragon ball continues to be one of the most terrible fan bases in fiction.

However the fan bases from the MCU and OPM are catching up.


At least Dragon Ball fans are entertainingly out of their minds.

Deadpool would laugh his arse off at their antics.

Adam Grimes
Now outrunning an explosion is a 'combat feat' and not ellipsis. Smh.

carver9
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Now outrunning an explosion is a 'combat feat' and not ellipsis. Smh.

I used that as a latter. My main post was about the Frieza showing.

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Eon Blue
Originally posted by carver9
Nobody in DC or Marvel fight anywhere close to the way DB characters fight when it comes to combat speed.

carver9
@Squall

Post one fight in DC that Goku in Z would be impressed with when it comes to combat speed. Show me. Post the fight here.

Galan007

AlbertoJohnAvil
Originally posted by Galan007
Combat/fighting speed, I'm honestly not sure. Fully mastered, Angel-level UI is ridiculously haxx, but then again, so is Flash's speed.

Travel speed, Flash. Whis is certainly FTL, but head-canon/speculation aside, there's really no way to know how *much* faster than light he is.

theres calcs placing whis travel speed feats above the trillions speed range

Galan007
^ Which are based mostly on fan speculation that rely on assumed distances he's traveling.

AlbertoJohnAvil
Thing is MUI Goku was stated by Universe 11 Supreme Kai to have been getting even faster after jiren attacked the others. Whis being a true master of U.I. and perfected is still leagues faster in terms of combat speed above even MUI Goku who just now learned to tap into UI at will.

UI requires one NOT to think about what action they want to take. Even Barry has to THINK what he wants to do, and both Wonder Woman and Whis both state exactly how UI and Combat Speed works....and they both work hand and hand. DB just operates on a level where Combat Speed is greater then Traveling speed.

Adam Grimes
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
UI requires one NOT to think about what action they want to take. Even Barry has to THINK what he wants to do And that has exactly nothing to do with the speed involved.

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