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Hulk vs Sundipped Superman (OWAW)

This should be fun. I hope you are limiting this Sundipped Superman strictly to OWAW feats to make this even a fight.

Supes wins. I'm really surprised there isn't thousands of Hulk vs. Superman threads out there almost exactly like this one......

Superman wins

Superman definitely.

https://im2.ezgif.com/tmp/ezgif-2-ddfa33747e36.jpg

^^ clearly the multiverse got obliterated.

Superman wins.

even if you think their strength was equal, Superman has a huge speed advantage. Hulk would never touch him.

Originally posted by Diesldude
^^ clearly the multiverse got obliterated.

Did or didn't? Because I don't know if you heard but the second one supposed to have destroyed the multiverse. Doesent really matter for this fight.


I really like the art in that scan. Dumb off topic question, but do artists these days actually draw everything like they used to.

That picture has a lot of computer work out into it right? Obviously I know Jack shit about things of this nature.

Basically did a human completely draw and color all of that shit or is it a bunch of computer generated stuff?

Hulk

Superman
He is still faster and strong enough to land a KO/BFR

Any significant sundip by Superman is going to be too much for Hulk to handle.

Originally posted by carver9
superman

Superman rips apart him.

Hulk wins. He will punch Superman really hard!1!1!

/sarcasm.

This is a non-fight. Superman.

@Squall...

He melted beings that were a thousand times more powerful than Savage Hulk with shockwaves from his punch while being miles away from them. That is similar to Black Adam, Captain Marvel, Wonder Woman, and Martian Manhunter getting amplified a thousand times over, Superman and Zod punching each other in the face ending with Captain Marvel, Wonder Woman, Black Adam and Wonder Woman turning into dust. Skyfathers doesn't even do things like this. Not even close.

Originally posted by carver9
@Squall...

He melted beings that were a thousand times more powerful than Savage Hulk with shockwaves from his punch while being miles away from them. That is similar to Black Adam, Captain Marvel, Wonder Woman, and Martian Manhunter getting amplified a thousand times over, Superman and Zod punching each other in the face ending with Captain Marvel, Wonder Woman, Black Adam and Wonder Woman turning into dust. Skyfathers doesn't even do things like this. Not even close. True. Superman is nowhere near that powerful. This Hulk would shatter every bone in supermans body with a flick of his Pinky.

Originally posted by JBL
True. Superman is nowhere near that powerful. This Hulk would shatter every bone in supermans body with a flick of his Pinky.

It should be complete destruction. Superman melting Zod with shockwaves from a single punch would be above a skyfather ft. Now imagine if Zod went and sundipped for days and Superman shockwaves still turned him into dust. KMC would explode. "OMG, Superman shockwaves melted Zod who was amped significantly while tanking hits from someone who dwarfed the amplified Zod in power. The ONLY reason Hulk isn't getting this treatment is because it isn't Superman. Mathematical calculations wouldve been done on Hulk ft if it was done by Supes.

Huh? OK, I'm not going to even attempt to reread what you just typed.

Originally posted by carver9
Huh? OK, I'm not going to even attempt to reread what you just typed. ok

Originally posted by carver9
Huh? OK, I'm not going to even attempt to reread what you just typed.

This is usually the case there

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
This is usually the case there

Lol... i didn't understand it. Nothing to do with me. Maybe you could put some emphasis on what he meant

He meant Superman pushes hulks shit into the 6th dimension

Originally posted by carver9
It should be complete destruction. Superman melting Zod with shockwaves from a single punch would be above a skyfather ft. Now imagine if Zod went and sundipped for days and Superman shockwaves still turned him into dust. KMC would explode. "OMG, Superman shockwaves melted Zod who was amped significantly while tanking hits from someone who dwarfed the amplified Zod in power. The ONLY reason Hulk isn't getting this treatment is because it isn't Superman. Mathematical calculations wouldve been done on Hulk ft if it was done by Supes.
Except the wendigo, bi beast and Abomination he killed were not amped and gigantic.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Ok, its often asked just how powerful Sundipped Superman was compared to normal Superman in OWAW.

So first lets see how Normal Superman, Captain Marvel, Captain Atom and Wonder Woman were faring against mere hardlight constructs of Warworld.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/24028860/Man_Of_Steel_117_pg09.jpg.html

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/24028862/Man_Of_Steel_117_pg10.jpg.html

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/24028865/Man_Of_Steel_117_pg11.jpg.html

Not great it seems. Entropy Aegis comes and oneshots all of them in one panel.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/24028866/Man_Of_Steel_117_pg12.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/24028868/Man_Of_Steel_117_pg13.jpg.html

Now Warworld's tendril that was connecting to Earth. It was so strong that a suicide attempt by Maxima and Massacre was just enough to send a shiver through it.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/24028862/Man_Of_Steel_117_pg10.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/24028865/Man_Of_Steel_117_pg11.jpg.html

Entropy Aegis severed it in one attack though. The tendrils healed back.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/24028866/Man_Of_Steel_117_pg12.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/24028868/Man_Of_Steel_117_pg13.jpg.html

And even Themyscira thrown to the tendril barely caused any trouble to it.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/24028871/Man_Of_Steel_117_pg14.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/24028872/Man_Of_Steel_117_pg15.jpg.html

Superman, Captain Marvel and Captain Atom were unable to do anything to it apparently, so they went in to divert B13's attention. So far so good.

Until B13 makes the tendrils a hundred times more powerful and even Entropy Aegis is useless.

http://s5d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/24028971_Action_Comics_782_pg12.jpg

Superman sundipped and effortlessly broke the conduits/tendrils magnified hundredfold in power when normal Superman couldn't take it on at normal level along with several top tiers.

http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/supessundips1.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/supessundips2.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/supessundips3.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/supessundips4.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/supessundips5.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/supessundips6.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/supessundips7.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/supessundips8.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/supessundips9.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/supessundips10.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/supessundips11.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/supessundips12.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/supessundips13.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/supessundips14.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/supessundips15.jpg

Superman was at least powered up by a factor of hundreds.

Originally posted by carver9
Huh? OK, I'm not going to even attempt to reread what you just typed.

Fixed.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol... i didn't understand it.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
This is usually the case there

Also fixed.

Originally posted by carver9
@Squall...

He melted beings that were a thousand times more powerful than Savage Hulk with shockwaves from his punch while being miles away from them.

No he didn't.

https://i.postimg.cc/rmxd5hK4/RCO011-1469445003.jpg

They were all beaten up and at normal levels.

Superman wins.

Nice. Supes one-shot kills him.

Originally posted by carver9
@Squall...

He melted beings that were a thousand times more powerful than Savage Hulk with shockwaves from his punch while being miles away from them. That is similar to Black Adam, Captain Marvel, Wonder Woman, and Martian Manhunter getting amplified a thousand times over, Superman and Zod punching each other in the face ending with Captain Marvel, Wonder Woman, Black Adam and Wonder Woman turning into dust. Skyfathers doesn't even do things like this. Not even close.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
No he didn't.

https://i.postimg.cc/rmxd5hK4/RCO011-1469445003.jpg

They were all beaten up and at normal levels.

Carver you doing that lying thing again

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Carver you doing that lying thing again his heads gonna hurt trying to understand this post of yours.

Superman, this is almost spite.

I'm not debating that subject again and Diesldude, stop.

Superman sundips the Hulk

Hulk wins.

Originally posted by carver9
I'm not debating that subject again and Diesldude, stop.


Debate what subject?

@Diesldude...

Its not that I don't like what you say, I dont understand what you're saying.

Originally posted by carver9
@Diesldude...

Its not that I don't like what you say, I dont understand what you're saying. as broly posted, that happens to you a lot, so not my fault.

I understand everyone else just fine though.

Don't get angry Carv. That feat wasn't that good, it's not anyone's death.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Don't get angry Carv. That feat wasn't that good, it's not anyone's death.

What ft wasn't that good?

He never melted beings that were amped 1000 times over Savage Hulk levels.

Superman throws him into the sun.

Originally posted by carver9
What ft wasn't that good? You know which one.

Nope, I dont

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He never melted beings that were amped 1000 times over Savage Hulk levels.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He never melted beings that were amped 1000 times over Savage Hulk levels.

normal superman would beat every single versions of hulk except toba hulk
sun dipped superman shoves toba hulk up toaa's buttcheek, then tells toaa a joke about being omnipotent, toaa dies in shame

TOBA Hulk is maaaaaybe star level by feats. So yeah, rookie GL Kyle would make quick work of him tbh.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
TOBA Hulk is maaaaaybe star level by feats. So yeah, rookie GL Kyle would make quick work of him tbh.


it took hulk like what 10 billion years to kill all planets and stars in a universe

he would be mighty pissed if someone like Hal just decide to remake the whole thing.
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11141/111418113/7337593-8722003479-7308439-7202222811-sjf4dla
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11141/111418113/7337594-4421590348-7308440-3363914079-u84afml

Hulk would be one of those bench warmer backup lanterns who fill gatorade drinks and wave towels. toaa can be a suitable janitor in OA

Originally posted by MrMind

it took hulk like what 10 billion years to kill all planets and stars in a universe

he would be mighty pissed if someone like Hal just decide to remake the whole thing.
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11141/111418113/7337593-8722003479-7308439-7202222811-sjf4dla
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11141/111418113/7337594-4421590348-7308440-3363914079-u84afml

Hulk would be one of those bench warmer backup lanterns who fill gatorade drinks and wave towels. toaa can be a suitable janitor in OA

Where does it state how long it takes Hulk to destroy the 9th iteration?

Hulkster still fighting for that feat lol.

Do you agree that Superman wins this, Hulkster friend?

Originally posted by Adam Grimes


Dark is blocked for a reason. A special words fits him nicely. He is wrong though.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Hulkster still fighting for that feat lol.

Do you agree that Superman wins this, Hulkster friend?

Great answer!

Nope.

Also interested in the interpretation of that Hal Jordan scene.

Originally posted by carver9
Dark is blocked for a reason. A special words fits him nicely. He is wrong though.

That's because you cannot handle being schooled by me on this, the one storyline you should be an expert in.

Anyway.

Bibeast, ArmCheddon, Wendigo etc were all at normal size, chained up etc. BiBeast had no fight left in him:
https://i.postimg.cc/L6X4tTDV/RCO014-1469445062.jpg

But more importantly.....

The burning/dying/reforming? That wasn't WBH's power. That was the power of the villain's wishes backfiring on them:

https://i.postimg.cc/JnxxLm9Z/RCO019-1469445003-1.jpg

Some of them wished for him to be removed from Earth. That wish was granted with the exile to the Dark Dimension (so much for BFR not working, amirite??).

Some of them wished for him to suffer as they did. Which backfired by them now having to burn/reform for eternity.

Summary: the villains were NOT amped x1000 times when WBH melted them, and them being melted was due to WBH being amped by their backfired wish to burn and reform for all eternity. They would have melted from anything else, WBH and Betty's punching each other was not needed.

Just to clarify, if people misunderstand me.

WBH and Betty were equals in power.
WBH was cutting loose.
If he and Betty melted, everyone else would too, as they would all suffer equally.

If WBH stubbed his toe endlessly, the villains would have also suffered as he did. It doesn't mean WBH had the new power to suddenly stub everyone's toes.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That's because you cannot handle being schooled by me on this, the one storyline you should be an expert in.

Anyway.

Bibeast, ArmCheddon, Wendigo etc were all at normal size, chained up etc. BiBeast had no fight left in him:
https://i.postimg.cc/L6X4tTDV/RCO014-1469445062.jpg

But more importantly.....

The burning/dying/reforming? That wasn't WBH's power. That was the power of the villain's wishes backfiring on them:

https://i.postimg.cc/JnxxLm9Z/RCO019-1469445003-1.jpg

Some of them wished for him to be removed from Earth. That wish was granted with the exile to the Dark Dimension (so much for BFR not working, amirite??).

Some of them wished for him to suffer as they did. Which backfired by them now having to burn/reform for eternity.

Summary: the villains were NOT amped x1000 times when WBH melted them, and them being melted was due to WBH being amped by their backfired wish to burn and reform for all eternity. They would have melted from anything else, WBH and Betty's punching each other was not needed.

Super speed of this level, means that the Hulk would be hurtling towards Jupiter before he ever knew what was going on.

Dark is so...

We clearly see Hulk and Betty intact without a scratch while everyone else was melting away.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11127/111273739/5025345-4398616-6583689559-durin.jpg

He isnt melting here, THEY ARE. We see Hulk after this on a hill watching everything reform. He even wished everyone back to life, everything back to life. What have sundip Superman done to win this fight?

Another scan of everyone melting except Hulk and Betty.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111113932/3445906-6272347392-30165.jpg

And were they amped? Simple question.

They were dying from the explosion true... But they werent (1000x ?)amped. That happened a few issues back in Vegas. U conflated the two separate instances.

Originally posted by carver9
Dark is so...

We clearly see Hulk and Betty intact without a scratch while everyone else was melting away.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11127/111273739/5025345-4398616-6583689559-durin.jpg

He isnt melting here, THEY ARE. We see Hulk after this on a hill watching everything reform. He even wished everyone back to life, everything back to life. What have sundip Superman done to win this fight?

Flew him into the sun and left him there

After the explosion. Lol, Hulk brought everyone back so that he can kill them again. He was waiting on the cliff while everyone was being reformed.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11124/111244529/4830462-died%20or%20not.jpg

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
They were dying from the explosion true... But they werent (1000x ?)amped. That happened a few issues back in Vegas. U conflated the two separate instances.

Nayja made a good argument a while back, cant remember what he said but they never lost the amp.

Maybe i missed something, but the amp(?) was in correlation to the massive addition to their size... And by size I mean BiBeast and Wendigo which all happened a few issues prior.

Originally posted by carver9
After the explosion. Lol, Hulk brought everyone back so that he can kill them again. He was waiting on the cliff while everyone was being reformed.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11124/111244529/4830462-died%20or%20not.jpg

So Hulk is into killing children now?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Maybe i missed something, but the amp(?) was in correlation to the massive addition to their size... And by size I mean BiBeast and Wendigo which all happened a few issues prior.

The growth did have play in that but the wishes doesn't just go away. Their size probably went back because of Umar but the amp, that is questionable imo unless Umar have a way of overriding it. Also, Fing Fang was wished to have enough power to take over earth. He was amplified as well.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
So Hulk is into killing children now?

I wouldn't consider that murder since everyone is coming back to life.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Flew him into the sun and left him there

This is possible but it would be self bfr. Both would lose.

Originally posted by carver9
The growth did have play in that but the wishes doesn't just go away. Their size probably went back because of Umar but the amp, that is questionable imo unless Umar have a way of overriding it. Also, Fing Fang was wished to have enough power to take over earth. He was amplified as well.

Well your argument relies on Umar having chains etc to hold multiple beings that are 1000x Savage Hulk levels.....

Originally posted by carver9
The growth did have play in that but the wishes doesn't just go away. Their size probably went back because of Umar but the amp, that is questionable imo unless Umar have a way of overriding it. Also, Fing Fang was wished to have enough power to take over earth. He was amplified as well.
I agree about Foom. But it was clear their added mass was already gone by the time he went World Breaker. The wishes were so random that I find it hard to believe each wish was perpetual. The loss in size was imo a clear sign of that loss in extra power.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I agree about Foom. But it was clear their added mass was already gone by the time he went World Breaker. The wishes were so random that I find it hard to believe each wish was perpetual. The loss in size was imo a clear sign of that loss in extra power.

I see what you mean. At the end of the day, everything is still on my side because when they were amplified 1000 folds, Hulk at a FAR weaker form killed them in a single punch. Both of them.

I'll concede on this one until I read the issue again.

Lmao thanks 😂

I honestly thought that the amp wore off Carver? In my opinion, it's too speculative to prove 100%. I guess we could use two scenarios instead of this becoming the eternal circular discussion that it's become.

1. The amp wore off. There was a collision that destroyed Umar's entire kingdom, which includes those in question.

2. The amp was there. There was a collision that destroyed Umar's entire kingdom, which includes those in question.

Whether amped, or not amped, I'm certain that they would have been non factors in the destruction of Umar's entire kingdom. This conclusion should be obvious, as the Hulk at a far lower level of power had little trouble defeating them in their amped state prior to them being transported to Umar's kingdom.

He killed them during while they were amped (1000 fold) with a single punch).

Originally posted by carver9
I wouldn't consider that murder since everyone is coming back to life.

He killed kids to kill them again

So he never melted them when they were amped 1000x. Myth busted

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So he never melted them when they were amped 1000x. Myth busted

IKR so how did carver jump to his conclusions on this one?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So he never melted them when they were amped 1000x. Myth busted

Similarly, they are not burning due to a wish. Myth busted.

Hehe too true! That was my bad.

I wonder if others would step up and admit when they make a mistake?

Like say, when they say Darwin is unharmed/uninjured? Or when they can finally give me an answer on Imperiex being consumed by Brainiac?

Oh boy

Originally posted by h1a8
Rape is different since the rapist remembers (has seen their body and felt them).


Not only forget about but not physically affected either (their body is like it never happened).

Did you say you were a school teacher?