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-Superman can defend himself

No

If he can defend himself, then he only needs to stay out of her reach.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
If he can defend himself, then he only needs to stay out of her reach.

Are you saying he can tag her from a distance?

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Are you saying he can tag her from a distance? dur

He has freeze breath and HV. Not to mention shouting powers.

And has faster reactions than her. So yes, he can tag her from a distance.

Especially as she doesn't start out phased. Can she stay phased forever?

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
dur

Lmao.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He has freeze breath and HV. Not to mention shouting powers.

And has faster reactions than her. So yes, he can tag her from a distance.

Especially as she doesn't start out phased. Can she stay phased forever?

freeze breath...heat vision 2 things that do not effect her in that state. And She is naturally in a phasing state. She actually is putting forth more effort to go solid. In combat she stays phased. Because that's what she does. Energy blasts. And elements don't effect her. It goes through her. She doesn't need reaction time she already battle ready and trained in combat for these very occasions. Speed of thought and power application has already proven to beat supes in the past.

So no he can't tag her. He has to close in the distance. And when that happens his brain is gone.

She doesent need reaction time because she is trained in combat? Ummmm...

Superman's HV and freeze breath have affected intangible beings before. And I note you missed out his super shouting.

So your point is what, she can stay phased for ten mins? An hour? A day? A year? Five years?

And Superman is 0.5km away from her, and can fly? Also not sure why Superman needs to close the distance lmao.

The elements have no effect on Kitty:

https://i.postimg.cc/mchgTDhc/ele.jpg

I'm more interested in how being trained in anything negates someone being billions of times faster than you

Not sure how that helps with shouting. She still hears sound, correct? Or is she deaf?
@Shadow: this is what KMC debating is now lol.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Superman's HV and freeze breath have affected intangible beings before. And I note you missed out his super shouting.

So your point is what, she can stay phased for ten mins? An hour? A day? A year? Five years?

And Superman is 0.5km away from her, and can fly? Also not sure why Superman needs to close the distance lmao.

she phased an entire planet.

He has no defense against getting his brain snatched out, not from what i've seen

Saint, Kitty's intangibility is not the same as what YOU think Clark has effected.
Her phasing is not what supes understands as phasing in DC. No one in DC does what she does. She's naturally in her phase states she has to try to put forth effort to be solid. If he blitzes her, His heart and brain come out the other side. Just like she did to a phoenix imbued Emma frost. Pulled her heart clean out.

you think shouting is gonna help him? That's all u got. It doesn't disrupt her power

So he gonna just irritate her ears huh lol

@Shadow, I think you misunderstood. In other words no matter how fast he is. In combat he can't touch her. Because of her training. She's NATURALLY phased.

Erm.....yeah he will deafen her. Cancel her vibrations out with whistling. Disrupt her concentration. Sonics still work on her. Storm disrupted her concentration with thunder.

So as OP said Superman is allowed to defend himself, no, she can't.

She honed her skills in combat and even in sleep to subconsciously stay solid and not fall through the earth! Because her natural state is intangible xD

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
The elements have no effect on Kitty:

https://i.postimg.cc/mchgTDhc/ele.jpg

This scan helps with that freeze breath and heat . So distance he'll just be shooting at a ghost.

Lol so nothing against sonics

Superman uses sonics ftw.

Kitty takes this if she plays smart. Superman doesn't auto resort to heat vision and ice breath during the onset of a fight.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Are you saying he can tag her from a distance?

dur

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol so nothing against sonics

Superman uses sonics ftw.



The science of her powers is different from the flash and Manhunter. SHE Specializes in Quantum Tunneling.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
The science of her powers is different from the flash and Manhunter. SHE Specializes in Quantum Tunneling.

dur

You can tell Albert has nothing to use lmao.

I specifically say sonics. And he keeps ignoring that point.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Are you saying he can tag her from a distance?

He doesn't need to. It's not a battle.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You can tell Albert has nothing to use lmao.

I specifically say sonics. And he keeps ignoring that point.

When you Trump Tinkerbell in a poll, you have nothing

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Erm.....yeah he will deafen her. Cancel her vibrations out with whistling. Disrupt her concentration. Sonics still work on her. Storm disrupted her concentration with thunder.

So as OP said Superman is allowed to defend himself, no, she can't.

SAINT because ALL of these things happened BEFORE BLACK VORTEX. Get off the respect thread my guy

Those are old stats. KITTY PRYDE RODE A giant bullet through the vacuum of space. Without aid of a space suit Into the earth atmosphere where she's moving at the speed of sound and air pressure! In duress! Still phased....the entire time! Bruh....get off Google...I got issue numbers if you want smh

Phased the bullet...all the way through the earth....while on it.

YOU'RE quoting old kitty.. and I'm telling you.... current levels.

https://i.postimg.cc/tZ3ffKWr/pra.jpg

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
SAINT because ALL of these things happened BEFORE BLACK VORTEX. Get off the respect thread my guy

Those are old stats. KITTY PRYDE RODE A giant bullet through the vacuum of space. Without aid of a space suit Into the earth atmosphere where she's moving at the speed of sound and air pressure! In duress! Still phased....the entire time! Bruh....get off Google...I got issue numbers if you want smh

Phased the bullet...all the way through the earth....while on it.

YOU'RE quoting old kitty.. and I'm telling you.... current levels.

https://i.postimg.cc/tZ3ffKWr/pra.jpg

dur

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Can she stay phased forever?

She can.

But her air-walking ability is not good enough to let her reach someone with genuine flight.

And Clark may suck at fighting, but he can fly pretty fast under every single writer.

black vortex made that sonic argument null and void. Supes is gonna make the mistake to think she's intangible in the same way ghost soldier.. flash and manhunter phase. It's at that point.. he ****s up

Lmao. That smiley is def tailored for Albert.

Ok. Then it's simple. Post current Kitty being immune to sonics. Simple.

Her phasing is not what he knows:

https://i.postimg.cc/rD5SSqkY/pha.jpg

Post a scan of her immune to sonics. Or you can be shown up yet again lmao.

Remember:

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
I told you to the post the scans, and quantify it for us. Its not my job to prove something that's nonexistent

Wise words.

You can always tel when Trollberto is reaching climax

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
https://i.postimg.cc/HcCbXZWQ/ktty-pryde-movie-tim-miller-x-men.jpg

-Superman can defend himself

Superman's internal durability might be an issue for her, though I'm not entirely sure.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Post a scan of her immune to sonics. Or you can be shown up yet again lmao.

Remember:



Wise words.

you DO KNOW moving at the speed of sound causes a sonic boom right? Then it's simple. She rode a giant bullet.. moving at the speed of sound after fired. In the vacuum of space which effect the brain and ear pressure. Entered the earth atmosphere which if u know aeronautics creates another sonic boom....and she stayed phased! All the way through the earth itself!

https://i.postimg.cc/NLYfMYJj/rua.jpg

Originally posted by -Pr-
Superman's internal durability might be an issue for her, though I'm not entirely sure.

Depends on the writer.

Sometimes she does whatever the fck she wants, other times she struggles greatly or can't maintain her intangibility.

Superman stays in the air, she can't touch him.

Airwalking makes her somewhat vulnerable. And even if it didn't, Superman just needs to keep his distance.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
you DO KNOW moving at the speed of sound causes a sonic boom right? Then it's simple. She rode a giant bullet.. moving at the speed of sound after fired. In the vacuum of space which effect the brain and ear pressure. Entered the earth atmosphere which if u know aeronautics creates another sonic boom....and she stayed phased! All the way through the earth itself!

https://i.postimg.cc/NLYfMYJj/rua.jpg
dur

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Depends on the writer.

Sometimes she does whatever the fck she wants, other times she struggles greatly or can't maintain her intangibility.

Superman stays in the air, she can't touch him.

Airwalking makes her somewhat vulnerable. And even if it didn't, Superman just needs to keep his distance.

Yeah, pretty much. That was why I wasn't sure.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Depends on the writer.

Sometimes she does whatever the fck she wants, other times she struggles greatly or can't maintain her intangibility.

Superman stays in the air, she can't touch him.

Airwalking makes her somewhat vulnerable. And even if it didn't, Superman just needs to keep his distance.

kitty isn't gonna advance on him she's smarter than that. Nice try though

his best bet is to keep his distance. But we both know that's not his style

He has general knowledge though....

Still no counter for sonics eh Albert?

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
you DO KNOW moving at the speed of sound causes a sonic boom right? Then it's simple. She rode a giant bullet.. moving at the speed of sound after fired. In the vacuum of space which effect the brain and ear pressure. Entered the earth atmosphere which if u know aeronautics creates another sonic boom....and she stayed phased! All the way through the earth itself!

https://i.postimg.cc/NLYfMYJj/rua.jpg

So nothing. She still hears things, does she or doesn't she? It's a simple question.

If she can hear, then sound waves affect her.

Yes but not on the same frequency! Chris Claremont retconned her powers! She's NOT THERE!

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
kitty isn't gonna advance on him she's smarter than that. Nice try though

his best bet is to keep his distance. But we both know that's not his style



Why does Kitty get basic knowledge but not Superman?

LITERALLY https://i.postimg.cc/346wWDd4/her.jpg

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Yes but not on the same frequency! Chris Claremont retconned her powers! She's NOT THERE!

So you have no, zero, showings of her being immune to a sonic attack.

Thanks

She survived moving at the speed of sound! And stayed phased. How that's not getting to you is hilarious

You saw her "limitations" on the respect thread and reached! Without understanding of the context that since her retcon and black vortex she is another level

Originally posted by -Pr-
Why does Kitty get basic knowledge but not Superman?

I'm actually thinking that you should close this as spite against Kitty lol.

0.5km starting distance, Superman is allowed to defend himself, and they have basic knowledge.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So you have no, zero, showings of her being immune to a sonic attack.

Thanks

A SONIC BOOM is a SONIC attack, that's LITERALLY common sense

Speed of sound.... creates sonic booms

Go ahead and say I'm lying. I'll wait

If sounds do effect Kitty, then she could be easily taken out by all the heavy brawlers via thunderclaps.

You have no showings of her being immune to sonic attacks

Originally posted by xXI_wing_IXx
If sounds do effect Kitty, then she could be easily taken out by all the heavy brawlers via thunderclaps.

Of course she is affected by sound. She hears people talking to her etc.

concession accepted

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You have no showings of her being immune to sonic attacks



Of course she is affected by sound. She hears people talking to her etc.

YEAH Being able to hear and being able to phase through quantum frequencies are 2 different things. Again she is not the same as dc phasers. YOU need to read up on Claremonts last run.

Yup and nowhere in Claremont's run did it show her phasing through sonic attacks

I mentioned Claremonts run to counter the respect thread stuff you posted about Sonic's...his run... retconned her powers

So you haven't shown her being immune to a sonic attack. Yawn.

claremonts retcon shows her phasing and is no longer molecular based. It's quantum based she hears and feels on different quantum frequencies than others this is why she is immune to telepathic attacks as well. That's why she was able to survive moving at the speed of sound on the large bullet wow phasing through the Earth

Thats not what he asked Rodger, dodger? dur

@squall Kitty is so precise that she can pull a tumor out of Hulk brain

Superman's resisted Mxy level reality warping. His invulnerability is largely from an "aura", a sort of force field

He's held "liquid bleed" in his mouth, something Monitor tech deemed impossible to contain or bottle in any way.


Odds are Kitty wouldn't even be able to phase through his chest, if he didn't want her to.

Lol Albert is just throwing as much stuff as he can hoping it sticks. Pretty crap thread.

Sonics ftw

Hes near his climax

Superman phases through her.

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-8367f3c8837c28cb2e6b3cfbaf247324.webp

What Claremont run are you guys talking about? Like the late 80s early 90s? Or that awful run with the Neo?

He's talking about the Black Vortex storyline where they all got amps, then gave their amps up.

Happened a couple years after the Breakworld saga.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He's talking about the Black Vortex storyline where they all got amps, then gave their amps up.

Happened a couple years after the Breakworld saga.

Claremont didn't write the Starlord issue where it happened, though. Unless I missed something.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-8367f3c8837c28cb2e6b3cfbaf247324.webp

Is Kitty with her cosmic powers ?

Does Alberto even know how Martian Manhunter phases?



Because it took a New Gods "Hyperspace Sword" to cut him.

Alberto, the Black Vortex amp was temporary.

And I'm not totally sure what the Claremont reference is. Sam Humphries wrote the issues with Cosmic Kitty transcending the multiverse through phasing....or whatever that weird shit was.

What Claremont Kitty? Under Claremont Magneto almost killed her with electricity.

https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Uncanny-X-Men-1963/Issue-150?id=22832& amp;__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=1aa2a6e2c3536f0e87d048d298
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don't nobody give abhi the attention.

Originally posted by StyleTime
Alberto, the Black Vortex amp was temporary.

And I'm not totally sure what the Claremont reference is. Sam Humphries wrote the issues with Cosmic Kitty transcending the multiverse through phasing....or whatever that weird shit was.

You sure you know what you're talking about?

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
don't nobody give abhi the attention.
Shut up troll.

abhi giving his opinion on anything comic related is like a 9 year old talking math with you. All you gotta is laugh and move on, nothing less

Originally posted by abhilegend
What Claremont Kitty? Under Claremont Magneto almost killed her with electricity.

https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Uncanny-X-Men-1963/Issue-150?id=22832& amp;__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=1aa2a6e2c3536f0e87d048d298
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Lmao did he lie?

Superman can hits intangible beings with his heat vision. Kitty cannot protect herself.

In Star-Lord (post Black Vortex), she was actually scared she would run out of oxygen.

Superman suffocates her by whipping up a vacuum lol.

Because Supes is just gonna automatically know that right?

Well when she's intangible and phasing through his HV and freeze breath, you're saying what, he then tries to punch her? Lol.

I can see why you think the way you do - because you're an idiot.

hahaha somebodys in their feels, throw more ad hominem attacks. I LOVE it.

Um no because SUPERMAN has NEVER sufficate ANYBODY in comics by whipping up a vacuum. That's an assumption made by you. You've yet to still prove how Supes will touch her in her phasing state

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
You've yet to still prove how Supes will touch her in her phasing state But that's not what the thread is about. You should know it, lol.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Um no because SUPERMAN has NEVER sufficate ANYBODY in comics by whipping up a vacuum. That's an assumption made by you.

Lol. Wanna bet on it?

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
hahaha somebodys in their feels, throw more ad hominem attacks. I LOVE it.

Um no because SUPERMAN has NEVER sufficate ANYBODY in comics by whipping up a vacuum. That's an assumption made by you. You've yet to still prove how Supes will touch her in her phasing state

*somebodies

*suffocate

*comics by

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol. Wanna bet on it?

go ahead post it. Never seen him doing it ever to an opponent but then again his comics doesn't interest me much so

I ASKED you to prove it by showing the scan, it's THAT simple. but I always have an agenda eh saint?

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
I ASKED you to prove it by showing the scan, it's THAT simple. but I always have an agenda eh saint? dur

Lol let me guess, you went searching for it and couldn't find it eh?

Lol@ Whirly, I can't keep that smiley out of my head now when I read Albert's posts.

MY GUY I don't got time for your bucket of tears and your Alberto.BuLLsHIt Exe file hurr durr , LET ME KNOW when you got the scan of Superman doing what you claim he's done EVER in a comic. until then, you flat out lied until i see evidence, nothing more nothing less.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
MY GUY I don't got time for your bucket of tears and your Alberto.BuLLsHIt Exe file hurr durr , LET ME KNOW when you got the scan of Superman doing what you claim he's done EVER in a comic. until then, you flat out lied until i see evidence, nothing more nothing less. Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
dur Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol let me guess, you went searching for it and couldn't find it eh?

Lol@ Whirly, I can't keep that smiley out of my head now when I read Albert's posts.

So where's the scan of Kitty tanking a sonic attack herp derp dur

LMAO Yeah lets think of that emoji whenever i type to make yourself feel better. GREAT way to ignore NeGaTive InSuLTS lmaooo

I'll respond to you when you got that scan of superman DOING what you claimed he's done. I'm out

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
LMAO Yeah lets think of that emoji whenever i type to make yourself feel better. GREAT way to ignore NeGaTive InSuLTS lmaooo

I'll respond to you when you got that scan of superman DOING what you claimed he's done. I'm out dur

"My phasing ability will protect me from the mechanical threats, I'll simply slip right through 'em. I'll be less able to handle gas or sonic attacks, or the hallucinogenic lightshows."

https://shadowandflamewithmagik.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/uncanny-x-men-143-kitty-8.jpg

Originally posted by Magnon
"My phasing ability will protect me from the mechanical threats, I'll simply slip right through 'em. I'll be less able to handle gas or sonic attacks, or the hallucinogenic lightshows."

https://shadowandflamewithmagik.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/uncanny-x-men-143-kitty-8.jpg

As much as you would like to pull up past showings from the 80s about Kitty pryde... You need to know that her abilities have increased 100 fold since that was published if I was you I would stay off of Google

@squall

WOW!!! a mere statement!!

Let me know when character statements are WOG now

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
As much as you would like to pull up past showings from the 80s about Kitty pryde... You need to know that her abilities have increased 100 fold since that was published if I was you I would stay off of Google

You missed the point though.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
As much as you would like to pull up past showings from the 80s about Kitty pryde... You need to know that her abilities have increased 100 fold since that was published if I was you I would stay off of Google
dur

concession accepted

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
concession accepted Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
dur

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
You sure you know what you're talking about?
Uh, yeah man.

Kitty literally headlines her own X-Book and squad currently, and has her normal powers. Well, I guess she's technically dead as of a few issues ago, but she's a pretty easy character to follow. High profile and all that.

https://external-preview.redd.it/Afy64ZfMZ-K2LAKSmOOmN1CbkrfcHHL2-ITBJnL391Y.jpg

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
As much as you would like to pull up past showings from the 80s about Kitty pryde... You need to know that her abilities have increased 100 fold since that was published if I was you I would stay off of Google

No they haven't.

We don't debate off speculations, and character statements.

Originally posted by -Pr-
No they haven't.

Um yes they have

Originally posted by StyleTime
Uh, yeah man.

Kitty literally headlines her own X-Book and squad currently, and has her normal powers. Well, I guess she's technically dead as of a few issues ago, but she's a pretty easy character to follow. High profile and all that.

So YOU'RE telling me Current Kitty is the STILL the same as she was?

Prove it.


You get stuff right sometimes on x-men, this isn't it

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Um yes they have

Based on what? She hasn't shown anything of late that puts her at 100x her previous power levels, and the Black Vortex amp was temporary.

Unless I missed one specific issue, she hasn't shown any indications that she's been upgraded any more than is usual for mutants as they age.

black vortex was temp for some. Some stayed with it. There's proof of that. Gamora. Young Iceman....and a few other lost it. Some others kept the amp permanently. But that's irrelevant to her retcon.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
black vortex was temp for some. Some stayed with it. There's proof of that. Gamora. Young Iceman....and a few other lost it. Some others kept the amp permanently. But that's irrelevant to her retcon.

So where is the proof for Kitty, then?

What retcon are you talking about?

there is a possibility that the kitty that died in Marauder's is NOT the real kitty

Just know. That her molecules and atoms don't exist in the same plane. Superman has no defense and yet dudes press the one issue of Sonic's

When NOBODY haven't made a case for Clark. This is why debating is important. I've shown evidence

She moved phased and that speed of sound on a bullet NOT EFFECTED. AND STAYED PHASED THE ENTIRE TIME. SONIC BOOMS ARE CREATED. I already proved that. Heat vision. Won't work. Ice breath won't work. Hell I can't tell u how much the writers **** up because I already showed a scan of her surviving the vacuum. Pre black vortex

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Just know. That her molecules and atoms don't exist in the same plane. Superman has no defense and yet dudes press the one issue of Sonic's

When NOBODY haven't made a case for Clark. This is why debating is important. I've shown evidence

She moved phased and that speed of sound on a bullet NOT EFFECTED. AND STAYED PHASED THE ENTIRE TIME. SONIC BOOMS ARE CREATED. I already proved that. Heat vision. Won't work. Ice breath won't work. Hell I can't tell u how much the writers **** up because I already showed a scan of her surviving the vacuum. Pre black vortex

dur

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Just know. That her molecules and atoms don't exist in the same plane. Superman has no defense and yet dudes press the one issue of Sonic's

When NOBODY haven't made a case for Clark. This is why debating is important. I've shown evidence

She moved phased and that speed of sound on a bullet NOT EFFECTED. AND STAYED PHASED THE ENTIRE TIME. SONIC BOOMS ARE CREATED. I already proved that. Heat vision. Won't work. Ice breath won't work. Hell I can't tell u how much the writers **** up because I already showed a scan of her surviving the vacuum. Pre black vortex

How physically strong is she?

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Just know. That her molecules and atoms don't exist in the same plane. Superman has no defense and yet dudes press the one issue of Sonic's

When NOBODY haven't made a case for Clark. This is why debating is important. I've shown evidence

She moved phased and that speed of sound on a bullet NOT EFFECTED. AND STAYED PHASED THE ENTIRE TIME. SONIC BOOMS ARE CREATED. I already proved that. Heat vision. Won't work. Ice breath won't work. Hell I can't tell u how much the writers **** up because I already showed a scan of her surviving the vacuum. Pre black vortex

I asked two simple questions. At least, simple from my POV. Is there a reason you won't just answer them?

Originally posted by -Pr-
I asked two simple questions. At least, simple from my POV. Is there a reason you won't just answer them?

The only way to lose the amp was to give it up. Kitty never did.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
The only way to lose the amp was to give it up. Kitty never did.

Okay, so your argument is that because we didn't see her use the power like Gamora did, it's still sitting in her body waiting to be used? Okay, sure, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on that one, even if I believe that like many X-Men and their powers, the current writers just didn't read up on the character and we'll never see it again.

Now, what about this retcon you keep talking about?

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
I mentioned Claremonts run to counter the respect thread stuff you posted about Sonic's...his run... retconned her powers
In another words u have zero proof and is simply speculating. Plus you made a thread with a specific winner in mind

Trollberto is the only one arguing against Superman. I wonder what his agenda is in this thread.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Okay, so your argument is that because we didn't see her use the power like Gamora did, it's still sitting in her body waiting to be used? Okay, sure, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on that one, even if I believe that like many X-Men and their powers, the current writers just didn't read up on the character and we'll never see it again.

Now, what about this retcon you keep talking about?

claremons retcon i literally mentioned it several times on this thread

Originally posted by Diesldude
Trollberto is the only one arguing against Superman. I wonder what his agenda is in this thread.

that "trollberto" getting dry and old now. YOU don't read comics, you come on every single thread and ask HOW PowErFUL IS x hurrr and cheerlead the same people for approval Stop desperately seeking for my attention

Next you're gonna ask How fast is kitty.

How fast is Kitty?

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
claremons retcon i literally mentioned it several times on this thread

Yeah, and I'm asking which one are you talking about. What run? What issue number? I'm asking for more details than just you shouting "Claremont's retcon" over and over. If you posted the issue number in a previous post, then fine. But please quote it for me so i can go and read up on it.

Originally posted by cdtm
How fast is Kitty?


It doesent matter. She has been trained in combat. Completely negates any form of speed advantage or strength advantage.

You know how a black belt in karate can wtf shitstomp a polar bear? Same thing..it's quite common actually

Originally posted by -Pr-
Yeah, and I'm asking which one are you talking about. What run? What issue number? I'm asking for more details than just you shouting "Claremont's retcon" over and over. If you posted the issue number in a previous post, then fine. But please quote it for me so i can go and read up on it.

omg you gotta be kidding me. I'm lazy right now


Believe what you want, I already know the facts

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
omg you gotta be kidding me. I'm lazy right now


Believe what you want, I already know the facts

See this? This is why people call you a troll. I asked you to be clear, and you refused. I gave you the benefit of the doubt, and you still had to go and be a shit about it.

My phone auto corrects to that as well. I think I posted about that a few weeks back

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
It doesent matter. She has been trained in combat. Completely negates any form of speed advantage or strength advantage.

You know how a black belt in karate can wtf shitstomp a polar bear? Same thing..it's quite common actually


Think you're giving Alberto too much credit here. Dumb it down a little.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
So YOU'RE telling me Current Kitty is the STILL the same as she was?

Prove it.

You get stuff right sometimes on x-men, this isn't it
I'm saying she's not at Black Vortex levels anymore. She's obviously more skilled than her younger self though.

Prove what? She's back to just regular phasing? You just want random scans of her recent appearances? I can if you want I guess.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
The only way to lose the amp was to give it up. Kitty never did.
No, Gamora explained to us that the Black Vortex amp burns out over time. She used her last bit in that scene too. Literally, no one has that amp anymore.

Originally posted by -Pr-
See this? This is why people call you a troll. I asked you to be clear, and you refused. I gave you the benefit of the doubt, and you still had to go and be a shit about it.

no I'm literally lazy right now, not even joking, i had to handle some stuff irl. YOU know I ALWAYS provide proof.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
no I'm literally lazy right now, not even joking, i had to handle some stuff irl. YOU know I ALWAYS provide proof.


Proof you provide proof.

Originally posted by cdtm
Proof you provide proof.


Prove its proof.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
no I'm literally lazy right now, not even joking, i had to handle some stuff irl. YOU know I ALWAYS provide proof.

No, I don't, but sure, I'll wait. I'll check back tomorrow. If you don't have it by then, np. RL naturally comes first.