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The feat:

https://comicnewbies.com/2019/10/16/flashpoint-batman-vs-the-bat-family/

One needs to take a series of cheapshots like Thomas did here, too.

Listing some contenders, but feel free to add some of your own:

1. Batman

2. Daredevil

3. Dick Grayson

4. Moon Knight

5. Black Canary (no scream)

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
The feat:

https://comicnewbies.com/2019/10/16/flashpoint-batman-vs-the-bat-family/

One needs to take a series of cheapshots like Thomas did here, too.

Listing some contenders, but feel free to add some of your own:

1. Batman

2. Daredevil

3. Dick Grayson

4. Moon Knight

5. Black Canary (no scream)

Meh...I hate that scene.

It was prety absurd, wasn't it.

What did you hate the most about it? The fact that a powerless, beaten up geezer could stomp them like that? Or maybe the art was bad enough?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
The feat:

https://comicnewbies.com/2019/10/16/flashpoint-batman-vs-the-bat-family/

One needs to take a series of cheapshots like Thomas did here, too.

Listing some contenders, but feel free to add some of your own:

1. Batman

2. Daredevil

3. Dick Grayson

4. Moon Knight

5. Black Canary (no scream)
I saw maybe 2-3 clean blows to the mouth area. I'm sure the suit helped a bit with the other blows. Wouldn't you say Stilt?

Maybe somewhat, yeah. He still ended up in a puddle of his own blood, though.

I don't know how good Thomas' batsuit is, but I'd wager his mask does offer some protection.

Anyway, those blows did affect him to a good degree and he still stomped the team.

I'm sure someone like the Punisher wouldn't have any trouble soaking that damage up, but I don't know if he could take the batsidekicks immediately afterwards.

Then again, Rebirth seemed to nerf a lot of them?

Not entirely a bad scene, since Thomas is amped with Miriclo or whatever it's called. He's basically like Bane/Captain America. Nobody on that list can duplicate that feat. Cassandra Cain was there ffs.

Originally posted by Senor Cage
Not entirely a bad scene, since Thomas is amped with Miriclo or whatever it's called. He's basically like Bane/Captain America. Nobody on that list can duplicate that feat. Cassandra Cain was there ffs.

Miraclo, you mean? Hourman's drug?

Any version of Cassandra (that isn't pre-flashpoint) sucks and you know it, Golgo.

Batman said he cant beat Cassandra.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
The feat:

https://comicnewbies.com/2019/10/16/flashpoint-batman-vs-the-bat-family/

One needs to take a series of cheapshots like Thomas did here, too.

Listing some contenders, but feel free to add some of your own:

1. Batman

2. Daredevil

3. Dick Grayson

4. Moon Knight

5. Black Canary (no scream)

Yeah, I'd say Moon Knight, Punisher and Bats on that list. Then maybe Onomatopoeia:

Takes four arrows and is still fighting:
https://imgur.com/a/BuqNbpL

Takes a beating from Bats (including having his wrist and leg broken) and still up for a fight:
https://imgur.com/a/W0PHAMM

Wolverine

Captain America

ewwww at the drawing

Grayson got one-shotted by Cassandra. So, it's highly impressive that Thomas withstood her beating.

Onomatopoeia lost to Damian.

seems like thorbags are not just delusional about thor, but all facets of life

MK does take severe beatings and keeps coming, that's his whole thing:

https://i.imgur.com/omDPGXH.jpg

Though if Thomas was indeed amped on Miraclo there, it changes a lot.

He used to take it on Earth 2. Not sure if "reboot" Thomas still has it.

https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Thomas_Wayne_(Earth_2)

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He used to take it on Earth 2. Not sure if "reboot" Thomas still has it.

He said he needed to in order to fight at his old age

Originally posted by Senor Cage
https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Thomas_Wayne_(Earth_2)

You need to manually add url bb-codes, otherwise the link won't show up properly.

Like this:

https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Thomas_Wayne_(Earth_2)

Originally posted by Senor Cage
He said he needed to in order to fight at his old age

What issue?

Originally posted by MrMind
seems like thorbags are not just delusional about thor, but all facets of life

Read Moon Knight (2006) #2. Ya welcome.

MK is like Rocky... his fighting style and philosophy is about taking hits and keep moving forward.

Originally posted by Senor Cage
He said he needed to in order to fight at his old age I know Earth-2 Thomas used Miraclo, but the Thomas from King's run was the Flashpoint version(resurrected by Zoom.)

Don't know if that version used Miraclo. I definitely don't remember it being stated in the story itself.

Thanks, Galan.

You catch Golgo spreading misinformation again, it's a ban for three years + we get him fired from DC as a bonus, okay?


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On a serious note... Thomas being on Miraclo would explain the scene perfectly, to be honest.

And yeah, the showing would make a LOT more sense if he was using Miraclo, so hopefully I'm just not remembering something. An old man being able to easily solo some of DC's top streets unaided doesn't sit well with me... Wayne or not.

You aren't misremembering.

I thought they were the same, my bad. Makes Thomas more bad ass if he wasn't using Miraclo. Kinda like being the Punisher, times ten.

Oh it's a beastly showing alright.

But it's also pretty f*cking stupid, imo.

Yeah, especially with Cassandra Cain there. One-shotted Dick, got the upperhand on Jason, and even Batman said he couldn't beat her in a real fight.

Thomas beat her and everyone else.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DybuE26VAAED1KL.jpg:large

No, Golgo. I won't be buying new books.

Originally posted by Senor Cage
I thought they were the same, my bad. Makes Thomas more bad ass if he wasn't using Miraclo. Kinda like being the Punisher, times ten. Either it makes Thomas badass, or it really waters down all of the Batlings.

Maybe Orphan was just having a very, very, very off day.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW


It was prety absurd, wasn't it.

What did you hate the most about it? The fact that a powerless, beaten up geezer could stomp them like that? Or maybe the art was bad enough?

Just the casualness of the beatdown. The art, the dialogue, the fact that DC hates Grayson...so much stuff to complain about

I dont think that's the case. Tom King ranks the Batfamily.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbr.com/batman-tom-king-batfamily-best-fighter/amp/

Originally posted by Sin I AM
the fact that DC hates Grayson

Hmmm? Why?

They've wanked the shit out of him for years.

That was pretty insane. None of them imo.

As far as street level ma goes, the bat family is definitely top tier. Even the kids

But it's Thomas, not Bruce... and he obliterated 3/4 of the actual Batfamily.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
But it's Thomas, not Bruce... and he obliterated 3/4 of the actual Batfamily.

I understand that, but he still gains the Bats family ability to jump 100x his weight class without any proper explanation. That showing right there was him jumping that shark.

I completely understand why some are upset though. It's pretty stupid. I'm always assumed there was unwritten law within the bat family that they are only allowed to dial it up on everyone else. Not each other.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
The art Yeah, it pisses me off that JRJ is still able to steal work from artists with actual talent, too.

The man's 'style' is complete shit.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
I completely understand why some are upset though. It's pretty stupid. I'm always assumed there was unwritten law within the bat family that they are only allowed to dial it up on everyone else. Not each other.

Bane eventually beat Thomas in their h2h sparring.

Yet Batwoman (and her sidekick, forgot the name) were able to handle Bane. Using gadgets, iirc, but still.

So there's no excuse for Batwoman and a damn big part of the Batfamily not to take care of Thomas... especially since they had him on the ropes already.

Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah, it pisses me off that JRJ is still able to steal work from artists with actual talent, too.

The man's 'style' is complete shit.

Quantity over quality.

Both Marvel and DC want to release as many issues as possible, regardless of the quality of the writing/art.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Quantity over quality.

Both Marvel and DC want to release as many issues as possible, regardless of the quality of the writing/art. Sad but true.

I know I've mentioned this before, but it just royally irritated me in the "City of Bane" arc, because we went from getting quality art like this:

http://i.imgur.com/fVXhAqMl.jpg



To the complete garbage JRJ cranks out:
http://i.imgur.com/KhvaFMul.jpg

Originally posted by Senor Cage
I dont think that's the case. Tom King ranks the Batfamily.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbr.com/batman-tom-king-batfamily-best-fighter/amp/

I believe it when i see it.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Hmmm? Why?

They've wanked the shit out of him for years.

It's been years since any wank imo and Todd/Damian get more fsn service. Tim gets more lip service, Dick is like the ken-doll of the bat-fam..everyone thinks he's pretty but noone respects him not anymore.

Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah, it pisses me off that JRJ is still able to steal work from artists with actual talent, too.

The man's 'style' is complete shit.

Basically. There are better amateur artists. He is really subpar

Originally posted by Galan007
Sad but true.

I know I've mentioned this before, but it just royally irritated me in the "City of Bane" arc, because we went from getting quality art like this:

http://i.imgur.com/fVXhAqMl.jpg



To the complete garbage JRJ cranks out:
http://i.imgur.com/KhvaFMul.jpg




Hasn't he been able to produce rather good art... before he decided to copy his father's style, I mean?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
It's been years since any wank imo and Todd/Damian get more fsn service. Tim gets more lip service, Dick is like the ken-doll of the bat-fam..everyone thinks he's pretty but noone respects him not anymore.

He got the better of Batman himself.

He slapped Midnighter around like the little b!tch he is.

He humiliated Paragon (or whatever his name was), whose powerset was basically that of an Amazo.

He survived getting shot in the damn brain.




Sin... Dick collected enough feats, seriously. Let him rest for a while.

Yeah, his oldschool Spidey art was actually quite good.

But anything he's done in the last decade+ is just an embarrassment to the industry.

He keeps getting worse, imho.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He got the better of Batman himself.

He slapped Midnighter around like the little b!tch he is.

He humiliated Paragon (or whatever his name was), whose powerset was basically that of an Amazo.

He survived getting shot in the damn brain.




Sin... Dick collected enough feats, seriously. Let him rest for a while.

nope. not till he's up there with bruce

Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah, his oldschool Spidey art was actually quite good.

But anything he's done in the last decade+ is just an embarrassment to the industry.

Yeah agreed. I cant stand Romita Jrs art. Horrible.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
nope. not till he's up there with bruce

He will never reach Bruce's level.

Bruce is the original gangsta, Dick is some chippendale whoring himself out for old ladies.

Stupid or not, dick already stalemated batman not too long ago.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He got the better of Batman himself.

If this was when Didio was still editor, it might be due to his involvement. That guy has the most famous hateboner for Grayson and Wally

That guy hates sidekicks like they owe him money, especially when they take over from the original heroes.

If, imo if he had been at Marvel he would have made a mincemeat out of Bucky Cap ,.Miles Morales and Kamala Khan stories

Bucky Cap could use some low showings...