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The question is this, would the Avengers be an elite team in the DC Universe if every character that has ever been an Avenger were on call, and willing to act?

they be teen titans level

Teen Titans, or the Titans are pretty powerful.

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Originally posted by MrMind
they be teen titans level

Just terrible...

Anyways, this team alone would be right up there with the JLA...

https://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2013/10/Avengers-World-Arthur-Adams-Wraparound-Variant.jpg

That art is terrible

I take it back, that team is more powerful than the main members of the JLA.

That's because there's ****ing twenty of them.

20 > 7

Originally posted by -Pr-
That's because there's ****ing twenty of them.

20 > 7

Aren't DC Street levelers faster than Thor???

Originally posted by carver9
Just terrible...

Anyways, this team alone would be right up there with the JLA...

https://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2013/10/Avengers-World-Arthur-Adams-Wraparound-Variant.jpg

shut up ugly

you don't even know who white raven is

white raven alone would slaughter half the roster

wally slaughters the other half

Originally posted by carthage
Aren't DC Street levelers faster than Thor???

yes

carver is an idiot who only reads marvel, what a surprise
phantom stranger solos your team lol

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8d/80/34/8d8034b67829d855e544dbc9d43b31c5.jpg

Originally posted by Stoic
The question is this, would the Avengers be an elite team in the DC Universe if every character that has ever been an Avenger were on call, and willing to act?
They'd be an elite team. Up there with the JSAs and JLAs.

Originally posted by Stoic
The question is this, would the Avengers be an elite team in the DC Universe if every character that has ever been an Avenger were on call, and willing to act?

Without bringing over their villains too, the hero scene in DC would get overcrowded. Not to mention diluted.

Originally posted by MrMind
carver is an idiot who only reads marvel, what a surprise
phantom stranger solos your team lol

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8d/80/34/8d8034b67829d855e544dbc9d43b31c5.jpg

Do you not know how to read? I said the standard team of JLA. At least PR caught on. That's the JLA and JSA combined.

Originally posted by MrMind
shut up ugly

you don't even know who white raven is

white raven alone would slaughter half the roster

wally slaughters the other half

I see that you still visit my twitter page. I see all. At least leave a like.

They'd be behind the JLA, JSA, Legion, All-Star Squadron, etc... still elite, but hard to break top 5.

Originally posted by carver9
Do you not know how to read? I said the standard team of JLA. At least PR caught on. That's the JLA and JSA combined.

No, that's the JLA. Most characters have been a member at one point or another.

I forgot about the JL Dark. So, Avengers would be at least top 10.

Originally posted by Senor Cage
No, that's the JLA. Most characters have been a member at one point or another.

Using the current roster, that team IS the JLA/JSA and there are some members there that haven't been a part of the JLA.

Originally posted by Senor Cage
I forgot about the JL Dark. So, Avengers would be at least top 10.

Top 3.

No. All of those have been members.

Originally posted by carver9
Just terrible...

Anyways, this team alone would be right up there with the JLA...

https://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2013/10/Avengers-World-Arthur-Adams-Wraparound-Variant.jpg


About Outsiders level.


Just put Batman on the team, so they have one A lister.

Originally posted by carver9
Top 3. Nope.

Originally posted by carver9
Top 3.

My order in the DCU:

1. Justice league dark
2. JLA
3. JSA
4. Legion
5. Avengers

So, Avengers barely made it to the top 5.

Freedom Fighters at their peak (last few series) might be even more powerful than the Avengers. They dont have many weaknesses if at all.

Originally posted by Senor Cage
My order in the DCU:

1. Justice league dark
2. JLA
3. JSA
4. Legion
5. Avengers

So, Avengers barely made it to the top 5.

Freedom Fighters at their peak (last few series) might be even more powerful than the Avengers. They dont have many weaknesses if at all.

I dont think you know about the Avengers lineup I posted, let alone some of the members that are missing.

Originally posted by carver9
I dont think you know about the Avengers lineup I posted, let alone some of the members that are missing.

You posted a picture of about twenty characters.

If they get 20, why don't the JLA and JSA get 20 too?

Originally posted by -Pr-
You posted a picture of about twenty characters.

If they get 20, why don't the JLA and JSA get 20 too?

Because thr team i posted were the standard members of the Avengers world. The team that have been posted throughout this thread of the JSA and JLA isnt the standard team.

Stoic didn't say anything about it being a particular set of Avengers in the OP. Why are you deciding what roster we have to use?

Avengers has had far more members than the JL, also the Avengers members tend to have more experience dealing with the threats they face and have an better data base.
For instance every super team shares a data base of threats and potential threats.

JL has had maybe 25% of the DC hero population at one point being a member.
Marvel made every hero, anti-hero and sometimes villain a Avenger team member some shape way or form.

The JL takes on greater threats overall, they've also failed against high threats more than the avengers. Elite really is about equal since the every premier superhero in both companies have been on both respective teams.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Avengers has had far more members than the JL, also the Avengers members tend to have more experience dealing with the threats they face and have an better data base.
For instance every super team shares a data base of threats and potential threats.

JL has had maybe 25% of the DC hero population at one point being a member.
Marvel made every hero, anti-hero and sometimes villain a Avenger team member some shape way or form.

I disagree, but it's moot because I have a more pressing question: Do you think that Stoic's intent was that everyone who had ever been an Avenger was brought in to DC and would function as a superhero team at least a hundred strong?

I think it far more likely that he meant an average line-up, or a sort of "dozen most common members" kind of thing.

Originally posted by cdtm
About Outsiders level.


Just put Batman on the team, so they have one A lister. I never thought you'd say that eventhough Iron Fist is on it.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
I never thought you'd say that eventhough Iron Fist is on it.


He was never really an Avenger though.


Just the B team New Avengers. Shang is the one on the real Avengers team.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I disagree, but it's moot because I have a more pressing question: Do you think that Stoic's intent was that everyone who had ever been an Avenger was brought in to DC and would function as a superhero team at least a hundred strong?

I think it far more likely that he meant an average line-up, or a sort of "dozen most common members" kind of thing.

JL keeps the most consistently "elite" group.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Stoic didn't say anything about it being a particular set of Avengers in the OP. Why are you deciding what roster we have to use?

My original post was about the standard members of the team. Then Mr. Mind replied mentioning a team that had nothing to do with my post.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Avengers has had far more members than the JL, also the Avengers members tend to have more experience dealing with the threats they face and have an better data base.
For instance every super team shares a data base of threats and potential threats.

JL has had maybe 25% of the DC hero population at one point being a member.
Marvel made every hero, anti-hero and sometimes villain a Avenger team member some shape way or form.

The entire planet has been members of the JLA (WW3).

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
JL keeps the most consistently "elite" group.

Agreed. If we go by peak, JLD is the most powerful. They have like 4 members who are cosmic level.

Originally posted by Senor Cage
My order in the DCU:

1. Justice league dark
2. JLA
3. JSA
4. Legion
5. Avengers

So, Avengers barely made it to the top 5.

Freedom Fighters at their peak (last few series) might be even more powerful than the Avengers. They dont have many weaknesses if at all.


the top 4 is correct
though JSA's most powerful members may be above JLA and JLD

remember, spectre and classic fate was in there at some point, also sentinal alan, obsidian, shade etc

my list would be

1. Legion
2. JSA
3. JLD
4. JLA
5. Authority

that's of course not counting various lantern corps

Originally posted by MrMind
carver is an idiot who only reads marvel, what a surprise
phantom stranger solos your team lol

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8d/80/34/8d8034b67829d855e544dbc9d43b31c5.jpg

You know the og Beyonder was an Avenger at one time right?

Originally posted by cdtm
He was never really an Avenger though.


Just the B team New Avengers. Shang is the one on the real Avengers team.
He is a Defender though. That is, after being a Hero For Hire

And an Imp has been apart of the Superman Corps.