Cheetah vs. Gladiator

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carthage
Current Emperor Gladiator

Who wins

Stoic
Gladiator wins unless I'm missing something?

tkitna
Originally posted by Stoic
Gladiator wins unless I'm missing something?

Yeah, seriously, Cheetah has no shot here.

Senor Cage
Cheetah wins.

JBL
Originally posted by Stoic
Gladiator wins unless I'm missing something? She probably knocked a donut out of Supermans hand, so DC fans see that as a feat for her to win This.

zopzop
I'm pretty sure Gladiator would vaporize her instantly.

Senor Cage
Originally posted by zopzop
I'm pretty sure Gladiator would vaporize her instantly.

Not with her speed (Flash couldn't tag her) and her artifact she's packing.

zopzop
Originally posted by Senor Cage
Not with her speed (Flash couldn't tag her) and her artifact she's packing.
Wait, what? She got a power item?

BruceSkywalker
Glad stomps Babs with ease

-Pr-
Originally posted by JBL
She probably knocked a donut out of Supermans hand, so DC fans see that as a feat for her to win This.

I like how open you're being about your biases now. Kudos. thumb up

Senor Cage
Originally posted by zopzop
Wait, what? She got a power item?

The God Killer. plus she killed Posidon with the Tear of Extinction. Not sure if she still has that, but one bite and Gladiator will be hers.

DarkSaint85
If she's packing her gear (mainly the Godkiller, tbh) then she has a very good chance.

Not sure the Tear of Extinction would work - it's designed for gods, no?

JBL
Originally posted by -Pr-
I like how open you're being about your biases now. Kudos. thumb up I'm not bias by any degree. But I know full well that certain people will pick her because she's a DC character and has had interactions with superman.

-Pr-
Originally posted by JBL
I'm not bias by any degree. But I know full well that certain people will pick her because she's a DC character and has had interactions with superman.

Well, you're half-right at least. That's something.

carver9
Gladiator wins this every single time.

Senor Cage
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
If she's packing her gear (mainly the Godkiller, tbh) then she has a very good chance.

Not sure the Tear of Extinction would work - it's designed for gods, no?

Yeah, but Godkiller is all she needs.

cdtm
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
If she's packing her gear (mainly the Godkiller, tbh) then she has a very good chance.

Not sure the Tear of Extinction would work - it's designed for gods, no?


Yes. Its like Radion for New Gods.

cdtm
Originally posted by JBL
I'm not bias by any degree. But I know full well that certain people will pick her because she's a DC character and has had interactions with superman.


Wait, she fought Superman?



Was gonna pick Gladiator, but he's no Superman. You just kept me from making a terrible decision.

JBL
Originally posted by cdtm
Wait, she fought Superman?



Was gonna pick Gladiator, but he's no Superman. You just kept me from making a terrible decision. Good show sir👍

Stoic
Originally posted by Senor Cage
The God Killer. plus she killed Posidon with the Tear of Extinction. Not sure if she still has that, but one bite and Gladiator will be hers.

Wait, didn't Diana take that away from her?

xXI_wing_IXx
Taking Cheetah's bite into account, it depends on Glad's confidence level that will ultimately effect his fighting style and performance. if he charges in head-on without accessing the situation and tries to punch her, then he would potentially be taking a big risk of her bite. If he fights smart and keeps his distance by hovering around her and coupled with his super speed, then he can win using heat vision and/or freeze breath.

beatboks
Originally posted by JBL
She probably knocked a donut out of Supermans hand, so DC fans see that as a feat for her to win This.

No, she's cut Superman with her claws a few times, and I think bitten him and pierced him once. But they are magical and supposed to penetrate anything.

This is the bite
https://comicnewbies.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/the-cheetah-infects-superman-2.jpg?w=707&h=1024

Her bite infexts people and allows her to control them
https://comicnewbies.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/the-cheetah-infects-superman-2.jpg?w=707&h=1024

beatboks
Originally posted by xXI_wing_IXx
Taking Cheetah's bite into account, it depends on Glad's confidence level that will ultimately effect his fighting style and performance. if he charges in head-on without accessing the situation and tries to punch her, then he would potentially be taking a big risk of her bite. If he fights smart and keeps his distance by hovering around her and coupled with his super speed, then he can win using heat vision and/or freeze breath.

I'd agree with this.

#senor not being tagged by Flash is PIS. Yes shes fast but its officially shown she is the 6th fastest DC character behind pre FP Wally, Barry, Prof Zoom, Superman, Black Racer in that order and ahead of WW, Capt Marvel etc.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQIEGq0yOtpTZK1H0hcp-oxkrXnkDwr7Hz3i3dx9J_5oTYPmv-r&usqp=CAU

So Flash should be able to tag her

cdtm
Faster then Shazam. And slower then Superman.


confused

beatboks
Originally posted by cdtm
Faster then Shazam. And slower then Superman.


confused

That is the current DC pecking order, yes.

Shazam hasnt been shown as Superman's equal for quite some time. Fact is on panel PG is shown to be a stronger JSAer than him, and she isnt on Superman's level strength wise.

https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/9/98379/1973419-34_06.jpg

cdtm
Originally posted by beatboks
That is the current DC pecking order, yes.

Shazam hasnt been shown as Superman's equal for quite some time. Fact is on panel PG is shown to be a stronger JSAer than him, and she isnt on Superman's level strength wise.

https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/9/98379/1973419-34_06.jpg


That was way, way back in Johns run. And he was wanking Power Girl hard in general, she held off Black Adam, Superman, and a bunch of others all by herself after they took Cap down. Since then we had Public Enemies and a lot of other showings that suggested parity.

beatboks
Originally posted by cdtm
That was way, way back in Johns run. And he was wanking Power Girl hard in general, she held off Black Adam, Superman, and a bunch of others all by herself after they took Cap down. Since then we had Public Enemies and a lot of other showings that suggested parity.

We've also had a LOOOOT of other showings that don't.

We've had showings where WW was depicted as faster than cap and others where she cant match Clark in speed. We've had showings where the same WW couldnt keep up with Jessie Quick who cant keep up with Jay who needs to speed steel from Clark to get ahead of him. There have also been stories where Cap outright couldnt keep pace with Clark on panel in travel speed.

Shazam hasnt been an equal of Supes for almost 3 decades, with the exception of Kingdom Come. He even needed to go to Nasa for a boost to be able to get to Venus in a reasonable time frame, hardly Superman's crossing galaxies level speed.

Magnon
Cheetah wins.

At best, Gladiator might be able to achieve a stalemate IF he managed to take off in the air quickly enough and IF that doesn't count as self-BFR.

carver9
sigh

-Pr-
Originally posted by beatboks
No, she's cut Superman with her claws a few times, and I think bitten him and pierced him once. But they are magical and supposed to penetrate anything.

This is the bite
https://comicnewbies.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/the-cheetah-infects-superman-2.jpg?w=707&h=1024

Her bite infexts people and allows her to control them
https://comicnewbies.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/the-cheetah-infects-superman-2.jpg?w=707&h=1024

I was going to bring that up, but I wasn't sure if it was still valid or not due to Rebirth etc. Has she been around since then?

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by -Pr-
I was going to bring that up, but I wasn't sure if it was still valid or not due to Rebirth etc. Has she been around since then?

She has, and she looks quite different. Popped up in JL books (as part of Lex's Legion of Doom) plus WW.

The whole were-cheetah thing seems to have gone.

Sin I AM
How's Gladiators piercing durability? Didnt get stabbed by Blade recently?

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
She has, and she looks quite different. Popped up in JL books (as part of Lex's Legion of Doom) plus WW.

The whole were-cheetah thing seems to have gone.
thumb up

Senor Cage
Originally posted by Sin I AM
How's Gladiators piercing durability? Didnt get stabbed by Blade recently?

Poor gladiator.

-Pr-
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
She has, and she looks quite different. Popped up in JL books (as part of Lex's Legion of Doom) plus WW.

The whole were-cheetah thing seems to have gone.

Oh yeah... I completely forgot about her messed

carver9
Originally posted by Sin I AM
How's Gladiators piercing durability? Didnt get stabbed by Blade recently?

Hes been stabbed quite a few times but it was by haxxed weapons. Hes also vulnerable to magic, so she could pierce him if she tried. Gladiator just holds every other advantage in every area. Speed, strength, durability, versatility, everything. This is a spite thread.

Senor Cage
Cheetah is faster and more agile. Glads will have problems.

carver9
Originally posted by Senor Cage
Cheetah is faster and more agile. Glads will have problems.

Based off fts, she isn't faster and agility will not save her here.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
@Spetnaz...

Great post. I would look at it like that IF they did have fights ending with the same results. People like Wonder Woman and Cheetah just seem too fast for him to hit and when you factor in the huge magic advantage she have with her bite, she wins.

Smurph
Lol.

So Glad vs Cheetah is a spite thread, but Wonder Woman outclasses any herald in Marvel or DC?

Senor Cage
Originally posted by carver9
Based off fts, she isn't faster and agility will not save her here.

Cheetah's battle feats are a bit better.

carver9
@Smurph...

Wonder Woman just destroyed Cheetah who was amplified off of that blade (can't think of the name of it) that amps Slade stats enough to temporarily match Superman. Wonder Woman holds back against her.

carver9
Originally posted by Senor Cage
Cheetah's battle feats are a bit better.

It is? What showings?

Sin I AM
Originally posted by carver9
Hes been stabbed quite a few times but it was by haxxed weapons. Hes also vulnerable to magic, so she could pierce him if she tried. Gladiator just holds every other advantage in every area. Speed, strength, durability, versatility, everything. This is a spite thread.

It's not the stabbing that's bad it's the. Blade part

-Pr-
Originally posted by Smurph
Lol.

So Glad vs Cheetah is a spite thread, but Wonder Woman outclasses any herald in Marvel or DC?

I was wondering that too.

Sin I AM
Originally posted by -Pr-
I was wondering that too.

Diana holds back apparently

Senor Cage
Originally posted by carver9
It is? What showings?

Her battle against the JLA

TheHulkster
Originally posted by Sin I AM
It's not the stabbing that's bad it's the. Blade part

Blade and his blade are covered up by Boy-Thing and it burns through Gladiator as with anyone with fear (you can see the flame). It also burns through an intangible Surfer. Why are you trying so hard?

carver9
Originally posted by Sin I AM
It's not the stabbing that's bad it's the. Blade part

Huh

TheHulkster
Originally posted by carver9
Huh

She's saying that being stabbed by the Blade (the vampire hunter) is bad. But there is context galore.

https://imgur.com/a/o9JkBx9

Smurph
Originally posted by carver9
@Smurph...

Wonder Woman just destroyed Cheetah who was amplified off of that blade (can't think of the name of it) that amps Slade stats enough to temporarily match Superman. Wonder Woman holds back against her. So you would call Wonder Woman vs Cheetah a spite thread?

carver9
Originally posted by Smurph
So you would call Wonder Woman vs Cheetah a spite thread?

Diana holds back, so of course I would. Their fights are more emotional than it just being a villain vs a hero battle.

Sin I AM
Originally posted by TheHulkster
She's saying that being stabbed by the Blade (the vampire hunter) is bad. But there is context galore.

https://imgur.com/a/o9JkBx9


Whats the context?

carver9
Originally posted by TheHulkster
She's saying that being stabbed by the Blade (the vampire hunter) is bad. But there is context galore.

https://imgur.com/a/o9JkBx9

Looks like a magical blade, the thing I said he is weak against. This was said on panel.

carver9
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Whats the context?

The blade is leaking orange crap. It's obviously isn't just a blade. Look at the scan, please.

Smurph
Originally posted by carver9
Diana holds back, so of course I would. Their fights are more emotional than it just being a villain vs a hero battle. The definition of spite thread is getting so thin it stops meaning anything.

Sin I AM
Originally posted by carver9
The blade is leaking orange crap. It's obviously isn't just a blade. Look at the scan, please.


i wasnt asking you. wait your turn

carver9
Originally posted by Sin I AM
i wasnt asking you. wait your turn

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/23374/2069237-war_of_kings___warriors_01_pg_07.jpg

Sin I AM
Ok carver I'll bite. What exactly does that scan prove?

cdtm
Looks to me like he just proved Gladiator is as vulnerable to magic as Superman.


"Of course, for even our strongest are vulnerable to magic."

TheHulkster
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Whats the context?

https://imgur.com/a/wraG0yF
https://imgur.com/a/PHKl7AS
https://imgur.com/a/EdDoC05

MrMind
Cheetah.

TheHulkster
Originally posted by TheHulkster
https://imgur.com/a/wraG0yF
https://imgur.com/a/PHKl7AS
https://imgur.com/a/EdDoC05

Below is the next appearance of Gladiator after being stabbed, clearly unharmed.

https://imgur.com/a/q4Ft2aK

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Looks like a magical blade, the thing I said he is weak against. This was said on panel.

I wonder if Cheetah is magical. Hmm.

Magnon
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I wonder if Cheetah is magical. Hmm.
Lol.

Carver is Carver's own worst enemy. He managed to make a pretty convincing argument FOR Cheetah.

Sin I AM
Originally posted by TheHulkster
https://imgur.com/a/wraG0yF
https://imgur.com/a/PHKl7AS
https://imgur.com/a/EdDoC05

Sooo boy-thing covered a weakened blade. Merged and stabbed an intangible surfer in the back and then managed to get the jump on Gladiator? If anything that makes it worse

carver9
Originally posted by carver9
Hes been stabbed quite a few times but it was by haxxed weapons. Hes also vulnerable to magic, so she could pierce him if she tried. Gladiator just holds every other advantage in every area. Speed, strength, durability, versatility, everything. This is a spite thread.

Seems like there are people here who's having a hard time understanding posts. Let me repost this.

Magnon
Originally posted by carver9
Seems like there are people here who's having a hard time understanding posts. Let me repost this.
Cheetah definitely has the edge at combat speed and reflexes. Combine that with Gladiator's weakness to magic weapons and this is a win for Cheetah. Unless Glads manages a stalemate by flying away.

carver9
I doubt she holds that advantage, especially with Glads showing nano second combat speed. The advantage in every category is in Glads favor, based off showings. Here's where the ft argument is against you. You can not win this.

DarkSaint85
Gotta love how Carver is now suddenly all in favour of feats rather than combat showings lmao

TheHulkster
Carver references combat feats.

Old Man Whirly!
Originally posted by carver9
I doubt she holds that advantage, especially with Glads showing nano second combat speed. The advantage in every category is in Glads favor, based off showings. Here's where the ft argument is against you. You can not win this. Fact check: this post negates combat showings, probably biased and inaccurate.

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