Avatar Aang vs Endeavor

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Henry_Pym
Replace Ozai with Mr. Todoroki.

How does the young monk fare against the number 1 hero?

NotAllThatEvil
Avatar state allowed?

Henry_Pym

Jmanghan
Avatar State Aang is many magnitudes more powerful then normal Aang, fyi.

If it's Avatar State Aang he wins low-diff.

If you recall correctly NORMAL Aang was able to fight off people using LIGHTNING STRIKES as attacks, which is way faster then anything used in MHA. He was even able to catch it and redirect it in his fight with Ozai.

Normal Aang wins high-diff, his waterbending will be a serious threat. He could even potentially drown him by locking him within stone and flooding it with water. Aang has a lot of ways to kill Enji and Enji can just... idk, burn him or beat him up, and since we've established Aang is faster and multiple ways to neutralize him, he wins.

Henry_Pym

Jmanghan
First off, let's get this out of the way, Avatar State Aang is absolutely low-diffing him if not stomping him.

It wouldn't melt if Aang was filling it with water for 10+ minutes, and if Aang thought he was outclassed in a city, he'd probably take the battle to a forest or some crap, also, it took Ozai awhile throwing everything he had at it before he was able to melt it.

Plus Aang can... y'know, become a living body of water and surround himself with it, use it defensively and offensively.

Also because of that speed and the fact that he can bend fire, there's a very strong chance he could literally redirect an attack back at Enji.

Enji turned a skyscraper into swiss cheese and that's great, but it was one of his more powerful attacks; Aang casually created rock pellets while in the avatar state that casually destroyed the landscape around him while trying to hit Ozai, the landscape wasn't even his target, it was just a side-effect of one of his smaller attacks.

Also, I'm sorry but being faster is more important then being stronger or more powerful, especially when the ultra-fast attacks he WAS dodging had plenty of power behind them, considering they were literally lightning bolts given form that Aang was dodging at point blank range and straight up almost redirecting his attacks back at him.

This isn't even counting the fact that Aang had superior firebending after going Avatar state and had chances to kill Ozai while as normal Aang.

The fact of the matter is, in Avatar State, Aang is better in every way. As normal Aang, he still has the power to redirect elemental attacks, and considering Aang has reacted to attacks just as fast and near-equal in power, he most likely takes it as normal Aang too.

Then, once again, the added bonus of having ways to kill him off IF HE MUST. This is a battle of life or death, no?

The only reason Aang got away without killing was because he had beat Ozai to shit and had the power to take away his bending outright, Aang doesn't have that ability in the MHA universe because... well... the people of MHA aren't benders of any kind, so the Aang has two options: Kill, or be killed.

I'm not confident in Enji's ability to defeat Aang before he can neutralize him, and that's all it'd take, a strong stone encasement concentrated on by Aang and fill it up to his neck in water. If we're going in-character, then Aang would rather die then kill someone, so Enji has a shot, but if we're being realistic Aang has too many defenses on top of his speed, and too many ways to neutralize Enji as a threat.

TL;DR Aang wins.

Henry_Pym

Jmanghan

Jmanghan
blue fire*

NotAllThatEvil
You don't "inherit" sozin's comet. It's a naturally occurring phenomenon

Henry_Pym

Jmanghan
Dude, Clouds melt naturally in our own world over time.

I'll respond to everything else at a later date.

Henry_Pym
Originally posted by Jmanghan
Dude, Clouds melt naturally in our own world over time.

I'll respond to everything else at a later date. this was in an instant and just by him approaching it.

Jmanghan

Henry_Pym

NotAllThatEvil
Aang back in season one used the avatar state to cause a volcanic eruption that destroyed an island. That seems marginally more impressive than popping some clouds

Jmanghan
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Aang back in season one used the avatar state to cause a volcanic eruption that destroyed an island. That seems marginally more impressive than popping some clouds IIRC at some point he evaporated an ocean too.

Jmanghan
Melting Clouds isn't impressive.

He needed help to even really touch Nomu. What makes you think he'll do any better with Aang?

Henry_Pym

NotAllThatEvil
Aang is roku. That's how the avatar state works

NotAllThatEvil
At the end of his fight with ozai, aang raises an ocean to put out all the fires in the valley they were fighting in

Henry_Pym

Jmanghan
You realize Avatars automatically gain all their predecessor's power, experience, and memories when they go Avatar state, right?

Aang can do anything Kyoshi or Roku could do and then some.

Ocean feat:

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Skip to 2:14.

Henry_Pym

NotAllThatEvil
What did korra learn from the first avatar? Korra's avatar state was garbage

And aang can infact use the avatar stare at will. He unlocked the chakra gate.

KingD19
Aang didn't show Avatar Wans' abilities because he didn't exist in the lore when Last Airbender was airing. Lavabending wasn't even a thing non-avatars could do until they changed it for Korra. And lightningbending was so rare only the royal family could do it and Zuko had to train his ass off to figure it out. In Korra its so common its a job. Things change from series to series.

Its safe to say Aang had full knowledge of Wan and his powers since that's how Avatars work.

Also Aang fully unlocked the Avatar State in the crystal caverns when he let Katara go from their emotional attachment. Then Azula blocked it again when she shot him in the back and her lightning sealed his final Chakra point. Then he unlocked it once again when Ozai knocked his lightning scare up against that rock during Sozin's Comet, and he simply had access to it from there. But the series ended right after so we don't see him do much more until Korra.

Henry_Pym

KingD19

KingD19
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Start at 3:45
Aang letting go of Katara and unlocking the final chakra(Thought Chakra), then immediately getting zapped in the spine by Azula, which locked it again. He heard Guru Pathik in his head telling him to "let her go", and he says I'm sorry because he doesn't want to, but knows he has to. There's literal evidence of him being at the final chakra point evidenced by the giant Aang looking down at him, then the entire vision fading and him falling as the point gets sealed. Because if you die in the Avatar State, the cycle is broken, but he was only nearly dead, so instead his chakra got sealed.


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Start around 5:50
100% irrefutable evidence that Aang cracking his chakra point(which is handily noticeable because it's a big honking scar/target on his back)which Azula hit, then he hit against the rock and immediately shows him reconnecting with all the past Avatars and his chakra self reigniting so to speak after it fizzled out before. Then, as if to perfectly show Aang has control, despite literally every past Avatar going for the kill after he brutalizes Ozai with ease, he stops, turns off the Avatar State of his own will, then uses energy bending.

Oh, and the Lion Turtle states in his head as he does it to reiterate that energybending existed "in the era before the Avatar", showing yet again he didn't teach it to Wan, and that it basically worked for Aang because he was incorruptible, and never willing to falter from his views and beliefs, even to save the world. Then Aang raised the ocean levels to travel dozens of miles inland and wash away the fires.

KingD19
Its been a few days. I think I provided enough evidence.

Henry_Pym

KingD19

KingD19
Have you watched the show in it's entirety recently? Because a lot of the stuff you're saying is completely incorrect.

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