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bye felicia

should police be free to attempt murder of elderly people with impunity?

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not only condoning but...I don't know man...you gotta really believe in some shit to quit your job in protest. the fact that it was 57 of them tells me that buffalo needs to upgrade their academy screening process stat

Thing is these people are everywhere not just the Police a significant proportion of people are bigoted tweets.

There are plenty of genuine cases of police brutality but this isn't one of them. I've watched the footage again and again and the officer barely even touches the man before he stumbles like six feet backwards and finally finds something to trip himself up on. The guy was attempting to touch the officers and was directly obstructing their path.


Now, you can agree or disagree with the level of police presence in the area. I don't know the severity of the situation so I couldn't say. But if police on active duty aren't even allowed to move a guy harassing them by pushing him slightly out of the way ('shoving' is absurd and loaded language that clearly does not apply here) then how are they supposed to do their jobs?


The guy is fairly old, sure, so they should have perhaps not pushed him at all, but I think in this case, anything they would have done would have been used against them because that's the narrative right now.

Perhaps. I don't entirely disagree. My issue is the complete lack of empathy after the guy is on the ground bleeding from his ear. Sure, one of them calls for help but nearly the rest of them just walk past him without a care in the world.

Originally posted by ares834
Perhaps. I don't entirely disagree. My issue is the complete lack of empathy after the guy is on the ground bleeding from his ear. Sure, one of them calls for help but nearly the rest of them just walk past him without a care in the world. That was the worst part for sure.

Originally posted by ares834
Perhaps. I don't entirely disagree. My issue is the complete lack of empathy after the guy is on the ground bleeding from his ear. Sure, one of them calls for help but nearly the rest of them just walk past him without a care in the world.

Originally posted by ares834
Perhaps. I don't entirely disagree. My issue is the complete lack of empathy after the guy is on the ground bleeding from his ear. Sure, one of them calls for help but nearly the rest of them just walk past him without a care in the world. Fair enough, but they're not paramedics. They have work to do and more pressing matters to attend to, such as cities burning down, than all crowd round and emote over one person. It's one guy, so the appropriate response is for one cop to call an ambulance and make sure the guy hasn't killed himself with his epic self-administered pratfall.


I'd agree that there is an underlying issue of cops being unempathetic to the point of psychopathy, however: that's how all of this started in the first place. But focusing on trivial examples such as this is just not helpful.

https://i.imgur.com/s0ywhaRl.gif

meanwhile, in reality, they shoved an elderly person backwards. sincerely hope nobody ever treats any old folks in your life like this.

https://i.imgur.com/mUQtmBy.gif

Trigtown, nice.

If you use your eyes, they barely touch him, his trajectory backwards is distinctly exaggerated.

shoving an elderly person backwards is an assault. if they felt "threatened" (mile-high air quotes) they should have just apprehended him right there.

It wasn't a shove. It's barely a push. If you can't see that, then our eyes are seeing two different things, and this discussion is entirely pointless as we can't agree on objective truths.

I'm not saying you're necessarily wrong, as I seem to be in the minority on this issue, but I just don't see that as a shove. The physics just don't look right to me.

the confirmation bias is strong in this one

Did you watch the video? If not, maybe just stay out of this one, lad.


Video evidence to back up something is very different to confirmation bias.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
the confirmation bias is strong in this one

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Care to explain why? You two ignoring this evidence is far more exemplary of confirmation bias than anything else, you know.

Originally posted by Scribble
I just watched the video again. All cops involved seem to stay near the guy after the incident. The video ends shortly after so we don't know what their reaction was after this. The guy is okay and in a stable condition so clearly they didn't just leave him to die.

We clearly are not watching the same video

Originally posted by Scribble
Again, they stuck around and got him the help he needed. They did their job and the man, as far as we know, is fine. This is a non-issue and is just being used to demonise all police even further.

They did not do shit. If there job is Knocking an old man over on his for literally nothing then yes they did their job well

I think we all need to go out and push over old people and do a scientific analysis on how much force it takes to put them on their frail old butts. Make sure you take into account if they have osteoporosis and end up breaking their hips or arms.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
They did not do shit. If there job is Knocking an old man over on his for literally nothing then yes they did their job well Did you watch the follow-up video I posted?

it's nice that broly and i can come to the occasional agreement. chainsaw home defense, the evils of physically assaulting the elderly...that's all i can think of at the moment, but it still warms the heart

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
I think we all need to go out and push over old people and do a scientific analysis on how much force it takes to put them on their frail old butts. Make sure you take into account if they have osteoporosis and end up breaking their hips or arms.

was waiting for this. you never disappoint

I love how hard he was shoved is being treated like it matters. Cops need a lesson in keeping their hands to themselves

Originally posted by truejedi
I love how hard he was shoved is being treated like it matters. Cops need a lesson in keeping their hands to themselves

agreed. even if they felt like being uncompromising hardasses, they could have escorted him aside and put him under arrest (for what i don't know, but it sure beats physically assaulting him)

I like how people are acting as if I'm condoning abuse of the elderly or police violence, when I've been pretty clear that I think this is mostly a setup on the part of the 'victim', something that is corroborated with video evidence.


But sure, go off with your non-sequiturs some more, show everyone how big yo brains are

The police officers did indeed push him in intent. Little or without much force is still a push. They should just give the old man a warning or completely ignore him and move along. In the video, you can see the 2 officers were pushing him willingly but after doing so, the officer on the left felt a bit guilty and was about to help the old man but another officer from behind pulled him away. They had to have a brief verbal argument for that pushing to ensue. Police should be ready and trained to tolerate verbal attacks without resorting to physical violence. I think police don't have the right to push anyone or act at all unless the suspect has committed a crime and being non-compliant or resisting arrest or have suspicion they are taking out a firearm.

Originally posted by xXI_wing_IXx
The police officers did indeed push him in intent. Little or without much force is still a push. They should just give the old man a warning or completely ignore him and move along. In the video, you can see the 2 officers were pushing him willingly but after doing so, the officer on the left felt a bit guilty and was about to help the old man but another officer from behind pulled him away. They had to have a brief verbal argument for that pushing to ensue. Police should be ready and trained to tolerate verbal attacks without resorting to physical violence. I think police don't have the right to push anyone or act at all unless the suspect has committed a crime and being non-compliant or resisting arrest or have suspicion they are taking out a firearm. Yeah, that one cop stopping his friend from checking on him is a major wtf. Also, the major issue seems to come from a third cop coming over and getting involved, that's bad policing.


Personally I believe that police have the right to move someone who is obstructing them out of their way with reasonable force. That way they don't need to detain them. A one-handed push is not a big deal to me. A shove, which is usually two-handed and done with intent to fell someone, is out of bounds as it has intent to harm.

Originally posted by Scribble
I like how people are acting as if I'm condoning abuse of the elderly or police violence, when I've been pretty clear that I think this is mostly a setup on the part of the 'victim', something that is corroborated with video evidence.


But sure, go off with your non-sequiturs some more, show everyone how big yo brains are


NlySgzwiM54

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Do you have anything to say regarding the follow-up video that seems to show the man was intending to aggravate cops and 'get himself punched'?

Originally posted by Scribble
Personally I believe that police have the right to move someone who is obstructing them out of their way with reasonable force. That way they don't need to detain them. A one-handed push is not a big deal to me. A shove, which is usually two-handed and done with intent to fell someone, is out of bounds as it has intent to harm. t

It all depends on situation. In this case, just an old man obstructing them.

Originally posted by xXI_wing_IXx
t

It all depends on situation. In this case, just an old man obstructing them. Agree!

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Agree! Where's that moron wanking emoticon when you need it? You're embodying it beautifully at the moment.

Originally posted by xXI_wing_IXx
t

It all depends on situation. In this case, just an old man obstructing them. Fair enough. I still think it's a lot of hoo-ha over nothing. Old man goes specifically to start a fight with police, gets pushed lightly, runs backwards until he finds something to trip over. I'm waiting for his big press release where he gets his 15 mins of fame.


Meanwhile, there are actually important things going on in the world.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
not only condoning but...I don't know man...you gotta really believe in some shit to quit your job in protest. the fact that it was 57 of them tells me that buffalo needs to upgrade their academy screening process stat


57.

And then they wonder why the protests continue.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
57.

And then they wonder why the protests continue.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
https://i.imgur.com/s0ywhaRl.gif

meanwhile, in reality, they shoved an elderly person backwards. sincerely hope nobody ever treats any old folks in your life like this.

https://i.imgur.com/mUQtmBy.gif

First time I've seen the video, looks like at least two of the three cops are shoving him. The third one seemed to barely touch him as he was shoved away by the other two.

Originally posted by Robtard
First time I've seen the video, looks like at least two of the three cops are shoving him. The third one seemed to barely touch him as he was shoved away by the other two. yup

Originally posted by Darth Thor
57.

And then they wonder why the protests continue.

They were hoping the city would buckle to their pressure in losing so many cops at once, but the city didn't blink and now they get to go out and be mall cops.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
yup

Actually, the third one didn't. He is the one that stopped the one of the right from helping the old man bleeding.

Originally posted by Robtard
Actually, the third one didn't. He is the one that stopped the one of the right from helping the old man bleeding. yup he did, the guy is knocked of balance the pushed and goes over hard.

Originally posted by Robtard
They were hoping the city would buckle to their pressure in losing so many cops at once, but the city didn't blink and now they get to go out and be mall cops.

They did not resign from the police force, just the emergency response unit. So these corrupt ****s are still policing Buffalo.

it's everyone else's fault that you asserted your own misrepresentation of the video after watching it many times, not your's

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
They did not resign from the police force, just the emergency response unit. So these corrupt ****s are still policing Buffalo.

Oh, okay. So it was an empty show of solidarity. Too bad, city would have been better with them in the long run.

still glad they won't be in charge of crowd agitation...I mean 'control'

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
it's everyone else's fault that you asserted your own misrepresentation of the video after watching it many times, not your's Oh for sure it's my fault, never said otherwise. I think you misunderstood, but that's okay, you usually do.

could have just admitted fault without taking more swings at people. glad we're on the same page about the clearly visible nightstick shove. As far as how the elderly man "finds something to trip on", surely you can see why you appeared to be completely disingenuous and trolling for the lulz.

There's nothing but empty flat sidewalk behind him. He's 75, doesn't take much to lose your balance at that age, especially after being shoved backwards.

the real trick with elderly people is keeping them from falling down on their own, unassisted

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
could have just admitted fault without taking more swings at people. glad we're on the same page about the clearly visible nightstick shove. As far as how the elderly man "finds something to trip on", surely you can see why you appeared to be completely disingenuous and trolling for the lulz. I'll concede, I was playing it up slightly in a disingenuous manner, but the reason his stumbling backwards looked so fake to me was because I was focusing on the cop on the right, who does only push him lightly, as opposed to Colonel Nightstick. It's a shame this man went out of his way to be treated so callously, especially at his age, and with so much violence and unrest already going on.

Originally posted by Scribble
I'll concede, I was playing it up slightly in a disingenuous manner, but the reason his stumbling backwards looked so fake to me was because I was focusing on the cop on the right, who does only push him lightly, as opposed to Colonel Nightstick. It's a shame this man went out of his way to be treated so callously, especially at his age, and with so much violence and unrest already going on.

I don't know, it happens so fast I can't tell whats going on outside of the last shove.


But its true it doesn't take much for an old person to fall just standing there, so..

Originally posted by Scribble
I'm confused. Do you mean I should concede that they "lightly pushed him"? Because I already said that. I take issue with the term 'shoved', because the video does not show a shove, it shows a push to get him out of their faces and to get him to stop touching them and blocking their path.

Yes, they could have easily handled this better. Imo, police in America aren't particularly great. They seem to have a habit of murdering dogs and kids at the slightest provocation, sometimes just shooting anything that moves. They also seem to get a pass just because their jobs are stressful (which they are, but that's not the point). I just think that people focusing on this case is silly when there are much worse cases at hand. This guy, according to eyewitnesses, was out there with the intention of being attacked, to make a point. Seems he succeeded.

Are you kidding me, they shoved him.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
could have just admitted fault without taking more swings at people. glad we're on the same page about the clearly visible nightstick shove. As far as how the elderly man "finds something to trip on", surely you can see why you appeared to be completely disingenuous and trolling for the lulz.

^The total lack of self awareness is hilarious

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Are you kidding me, they shoved him. A lot has been said since that post lol. I wasn't looking at the right cop. One pushed him lightly, one seems to shove two-handed with a baton.

relax, surt

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
relax, surt

I will spit in your face.

Originally posted by Eon Blue
I will spit in your face.

He'd probably enjoy that though.

He'd hate you afterwards tho, because he enjoyed it.

Originally posted by Eon Blue
I will spit in your face.

told you I'm not into all that spitting choking slapping "call me a dirty s|ut" stuff.

Originally posted by Surtur
He'd probably enjoy that though. Originally posted by Surtur
He'd hate you afterwards tho, because he enjoyed it.

relax, surt

Originally posted by Scribble
A lot has been said since that post lol. I wasn't looking at the right cop. One pushed him lightly, one seems to shove two-handed with a baton.


Good on you. I was scratching my head thinking, 'WTF', after you said he was gently pushed.

Seems like the kind of jack-booted, thugish arrogance that a person who has spent more than 5 minutes with a police officer knows all too well.

Good point about the pusher going over to the man afterward, I assumed he was going to check he was okay, but I suppose it's possible he was going in for round 2.

Just disband all state/city police forces, let the communities do their own policing.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Just disband all state/city police forces, let the communities do their own policing.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!


That's kind of what they're considering, actually.


Redirecting police funds to communities, and potentially switching over to a community policing system.


At least that's what's being reported. I can only imagine anything and everything is on the table right now, as they sort it out.

Originally posted by Scribble
I'll concede, I was playing it up slightly in a disingenuous manner, but the reason his stumbling backwards looked so fake to me was because I was focusing on the cop on the right, who does only push him lightly, as opposed to Colonel Nightstick. It's a shame this man went out of his way to be treated so callously, especially at his age, and with so much violence and unrest already going on.

Good on you. You're alright, Scribbity Scribs. love

Originally posted by Silent Master
Just disband all state/city police forces, let the communities do their own policing.

I agree for the city where the majority desire this. However, for those cities that do not desire this, you cannot disband the police as that would punish the majority because of the crimes of the a very small minority (no pun intended, for the love of all that is holy, no pun intended).

Also, I like the idea of private police that you subscribe to. Not fire departments but just police.

https://reason.com/2015/07/21/san-franciscos-private-police/



My younger brother (the one with tons of guns, targets, ammo, and can fix anything) told me how much it costs to become a private police officer that can be hired. You have to take 8 months of training, pass something or another, and get licensed. It's a very similar process to "real" police. Why not expand that to 2 years + a 4 year degree in criminology or criminal psychology? I think that should be required to be a police officer. And you can do patrols in your 3rd and 4th year of the degree program.

In all seriousness, The way I see it you have three main choices

1) disband the police
2) accept it
3) pay for better training and salaries

BTW, what's wrong with community policing?

Originally posted by Silent Master
In all seriousness, The way I see it you have three main choices

1) disband the police
2) accept it
3) pay for better training and salaries

BTW, what's wrong with community policing?

What is community policing?


Like neighborhood watch + patrolling + citizen's arrest?

Like the McMichael's vs. Arbery?

That would be up to individual communities to decide. it could be anything from neighborhood watches, CIDs, all the way up to private police forces

Originally posted by Silent Master
That would be up to individual communities to decide. it could be anything from neighborhood watches, CIDs, all the way up to private police forces

Yes, I want privatized police with a federal standard on how to get licensed.

Philly Sheriff:

BILAL: That's the great -- first of all, thank you for having me. That's the great divide. It has been in our culture and its institution for such a long time. As far as those officers, those fifty resigning out of protest, I would say that, "Bye, Felicia," because they SHOULD go. Because if they didn't see anything wrong with that, then they shouldn't have been on the force from the beginning. We are not run by a gestapo group of people in our communities. We cannot have that type of behavior. This has been going on for decades. So at this point now we should be fighting for those who want to be on this job to treat people fairly, and for those who don't, say bye. Get them out of here, because those of us who want to do this job right want them gone anyway.

I lol'd

I think community policing would have trouble with serial killers and psychopaths. They can't totally exclude out the police force.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
Philly Sheriff:

BILAL: That's the great -- first of all, thank you for having me. That's the great divide. It has been in our culture and its institution for such a long time. As far as those officers, those fifty resigning out of protest, I would say that, "Bye, Felicia," because they SHOULD go. Because if they didn't see anything wrong with that, then they shouldn't have been on the force from the beginning. We are not run by a gestapo group of people in our communities. We cannot have that type of behavior. This has been going on for decades. So at this point now we should be fighting for those who want to be on this job to treat people fairly, and for those who don't, say bye. Get them out of here, because those of us who want to do this job right want them gone anyway.

I lol'd

https://i.imgur.com/1OdZtAa.gif

having trouble?

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
having trouble?

Serial killers, psychopaths, and meticulously planned murderers spread fear to the local communities. They are harder to apprehend without police assistant and losing a sense of security.

I was replying to ddm's gif fail.

I wouldn't worry about police being disbanded. not gonna happen

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
I was replying to ddm's gif fail.

Huh?

What are you on about. I have no clue what's going on. The gif works fine.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Huh?

What are you on about. I have no clue what's going on. The gif works fine. It isn't showing up for me either tbh.

Originally posted by NemeBro
It isn't showing up for me either tbh.


please don't encourage him

not showing up for me either

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
Philly Sheriff:

BILAL: That's the great -- first of all, thank you for having me. That's the great divide. It has been in our culture and its institution for such a long time. As far as those officers, those fifty resigning out of protest, I would say that, "Bye, Felicia," because they SHOULD go. Because if they didn't see anything wrong with that, then they shouldn't have been on the force from the beginning. We are not run by a gestapo group of people in our communities. We cannot have that type of behavior. This has been going on for decades. So at this point now we should be fighting for those who want to be on this job to treat people fairly, and for those who don't, say bye. Get them out of here, because those of us who want to do this job right want them gone anyway.

I lol'd

Her argument can easily be turned back on herself though.


The people leaving in protest are to blame, because they didn't notice anything wrong before? What about yourself, Sheriff?? Are you only just getting around to noticing there's a problem with the police? What have all you "good people" who want the system to work been doing all this time?

Originally posted by cdtm
Her argument can easily be turned back on herself though.


The people leaving in protest are to blame, because they didn't notice anything wrong before? What about yourself, Sheriff?? Are you only just getting around to noticing there's a problem with the police? What have all you "good people" who want the system to work been doing all this time? often people need a moment when they can speak out. Lone voices often go unheard and indeed nobody wants to be seen as a problem themselves.

Originally posted by NemeBro
It isn't showing up for me either tbh.

Ahh, makes sense, now.

It shows up on my screen just fine. But it is probably pulling it from the cache.

This was the gif I posted in response to PVS' post (I re-uploaded the gif and so it would give me a different imgur link).


https://i.imgur.com/zkzWnCT.gif

ah okay. thought you were telling me there were 5 lights again.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
ah okay. thought you were telling me there were 5 lights again.

I know it comes as a shock but...


I'm a flaming libtard. If you post no-nonsense news about stupid right-wingers doing stupid right wing things, you'll get positive support and chuckles from me.

I'm all about personal freedom, choice, liberty, etc. And I believe to get that, you can mazimize that freedom through things like affordable UHC, UBIs, no-nonsense regulations, science-based polices, etc.


I do NOT support the police state and I strongly oppose it. So some buttmad, violent, likely racist police, getting the piss taken out of them is 100% up my alley.

So much for it isnt all cops . buffalo police saying "no, it's all of us."

Originally posted by truejedi
So much for it isnt all cops . buffalo police saying "no, it's all of us."

Im not for defunding the police. That's the proverbial cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
bye felicia

should police be free to attempt murder of elderly people with impunity?

Who's Felicia

it's a reference from the movie friday

now trump pushing the OANN conspiracy theory that the victim of the attack was an antifa provocateur,
essentially signaling to his cult of slimebags that martin gugino is a terrorist, putting his life in danger.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1270333484528214018

*waits for double-down gaslighting from black lion, pidge, and starfly*

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
now trump pushing the OANN conspiracy theory that the victim of the attack was an antifa provocateur,
essentially signaling to his cult of slimebags that martin gugino is a terrorist, putting his life in danger.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1270333484528214018

*waits for double-down gaslighting from black lion, pidge, and starfly* black lion, pidge and Starfly...

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
now trump pushing the OANN conspiracy theory that the victim of the attack was an antifa provocateur,
essentially signaling to his cult of slimebags that martin gugino is a terrorist, putting his life in danger.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1270333484528214018

*waits for double-down gaslighting from black lion, pidge, and starfly*

All Trump has to do is ask the FBI to share their aggregates on both parties. The FBI knows if this person is a false-flagger or not. No guessing or tinfoil hat conspiracy theories needed.

Originally posted by dadudemon
All Trump has to do is ask the FBI to share their aggregates on both parties. The FBI knows if this person is a false-flagger or not. No guessing or tinfoil hat conspiracy theories needed.


and yet...

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1270333484528214018

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
black lion, pidge and Starfly... The idiots believe trump. Surtur should wise up.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
How is that any different than what we have now? The police currently investigate and police themselves. They are already playing judge, jury, and executioner. If it is laughable for citizens to do it, then it should be even more laughable for them to continue to do it. At least with citizens, you are dealing with an unknown quantity. Police have a demonstrated history of abusing their power.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
now trump pushing the OANN conspiracy theory that the victim of the attack was an antifa provocateur,
essentially signaling to his cult of slimebags that martin gugino is a terrorist, putting his life in danger.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1270333484528214018

*waits for double-down gaslighting from black lion, pidge, and starfly*

"Buffalo protester shoved by Police could be an ANTIFA provocateur. 75 year old Martin Gugino was pushed away after appearing to scan police communications in order to black out the equipment. @OANN I watched, he fell harder than was pushed. Was aiming scanner. Could be a set up?" -Trump via Twitter 6/09/2020


Trump is going to get this man killed.

Originally posted by Robtard
"Buffalo protester shoved by Police could be an ANTIFA provocateur. 75 year old Martin Gugino was pushed away after appearing to scan police communications in order to black out the equipment. @OANN I watched, he fell harder than was pushed. Was aiming scanner. Could be a set up?" -Trump via Twitter 6/09/2020


Trump is going to get this man killed. this is more Trump insanity.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
this is more Trump insanity. He is so dangerous to his cult of idiots.

Originally posted by Robtard
"Buffalo protester shoved by Police could be an ANTIFA provocateur. 75 year old Martin Gugino was pushed away after appearing to scan police communications in order to black out the equipment. @OANN I watched, he fell harder than was pushed. Was aiming scanner. Could be a set up?" -Trump via Twitter 6/09/2020


Trump is going to get this man killed.

yup. trump is a piece of human garbage, worshipped by human garbage

Originally posted by Robtard
"Buffalo protester shoved by Police could be an ANTIFA provocateur. 75 year old Martin Gugino was pushed away after appearing to scan police communications in order to black out the equipment. @OANN I watched, he fell harder than was pushed. Was aiming scanner. Could be a set up?" -Trump via Twitter 6/09/2020


Trump is going to get this man killed.

My only disappointment is that the police didn't mace the bleeding old man and beat him with their night sticks.


"Martin Gugino died of COVID-19."

Originally posted by dadudemon
My only disappointment is that the police didn't mace the bleeding old man and beat him with their night sticks.


"Martin Gugino died of COVID-19."

Originally posted by dadudemon
My only disappointment is that the police didn't mace the bleeding old man and beat him with their night sticks.


"Martin Gugino died of COVID-19."


Did you see before they knew they were caught on camera they did put out a statement saying he tripped up?

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Did you see before they knew they were caught on camera they did put out a statement saying he tripped up?

Oh yeah, I commented on this story when it broke, originally. I was legit buttmad.

The police royally fudged up in this scenario.

It's such an easy way to NOT eff up. But they couldn't help but shove a frail old man.

What are the engagement protocols for this situation? Shoving an old due onto the ground is likely not the correct engagement tactic.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Oh yeah, I commented on this story when it broke, originally. I was legit buttmad.

The police royally fudged up in this scenario.

It's such an easy way to NOT eff up. But they couldn't help but shove a frail old man.

What are the engagement protocols for this situation? Shoving an old due onto the ground is likely not the correct engagement tactic.

did u see what the mayor said?

Originally posted by Surtur
did u see what the mayor said?

No, what did the Mayor say?

Better not be a stupid joke. uhuh

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
and yet...

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1270333484528214018

"never. criticize. trump. ever."

Originally posted by dadudemon
No, what did the Mayor say?

Better not be a stupid joke. uhuh

https://popculture.com/trending/news/buffalo-mayor-calls-75-year-old-man-shoved-police-major-instigator-protests/

Originally posted by Surtur
https://popculture.com/trending/news/buffalo-mayor-calls-75-year-old-man-shoved-police-major-instigator-protests/


Real talk for a bit:



This Gugino guy seems exactly the type of person I admire and his political positions are positions that I agree with.

If you remember, I was buttmad (to extreme levels) when Obama didn't close Gitmo like he f*cking promised to do. Torture is wrong and ineffective. Gitmo is a travesty of fail.

Gugino walks the walk that I'm too comfortable to walk. He's literally standing up for the causes that I believe in but I'm too much of a cowardly b*tch to go out and do anything about because I love my gyms, video games, books, traveling to eat food in far away lands, technology and gadgets, and internet.


Gugino is a legit stand-up guy that got pushed down by some cowards who hid behind riot gear, guns, and badges.

I enjoy the gas lighting of how "you don't need to make everything about trump" turns into "you can't ever criticize him".

Because obviously there is no happy medium. It's either be completely deranged or never say anything.

Originally posted by Surtur
I enjoy the gas lighting of how "you don't need to make everything about trump" turns into "you can't ever criticize him".

Because obviously there is no happy medium. It's either be completely deranged or never say anything.


Some of the guys here kind of invite it though with the daily Our Great President nonesense.

If someone was here supporting Boris Johnson daily, then believe me id bring up his crappy record more often.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Some of the guys here kind of invite it though with the daily Our Great President nonesense.

If someone was here supporting Boris Johnson daily, then believe me id bring up his crappy record more often.

And some people here invite being called obsessed with Trump given the daily nonsense about him they spew.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
notice how they completely avoid criticizing him even for this grossly nefarious act.


Yes I also noticed how many of them jumped on the rioters before jumping on the murderer of George Floyd.
Also noticed how they wanted to call the rioters terrorists but not the shitty cops who torture black people and attack the elderly.

And surely you noticed those who jumped on lockdown protesters for not social distancing and then suddenly fell silent.

Or those who cried black lives mattered, but fell silent over the blacks murdered during these protests.

Originally posted by Surtur
And some people here invite being called obsessed with Trump given the daily nonsense about him they spew.


Well to be fair, he is their President.

And hes not the President they voted for (presumably).

And he does invite enmity with his rhetoric, like almost daily. Its how he rolls.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Well to be fair, he is their President.

And hes not the President they voted for (presumably).

And he does invite enmity with his rhetoric, like almost daily. Its how he rolls.

And yet none of what you just said changes the fact yes: people here invite being called obsessed over him with the way they behave.

Originally posted by Surtur
And surely you noticed those who jumped on lockdown protesters for not social distancing and then suddenly fell silent.

Or those who cried black lives mattered, but fell silent over the blacks murdered during these protests.

Yes you pointed that out.

Over here it was the other way around though. So ive seen both sides to that piece of hypocrisy.

Originally posted by Surtur
And yet none of what you just said changes the fact yes: people here invite being called obsessed over him with the way they behave.


Its a circle: he invites it, they invite it, his supporters praise him, he invites more of it.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Its a circle: he invites it, they invite it, his supporters praise him, he invites more of it.

And neither side is more responsible for inviting it than the other

Originally posted by dadudemon
Real talk for a bit:



This Gugino guy seems exactly the type of person I admire and his political positions are positions that I agree with.

If you remember, I was buttmad (to extreme levels) when Obama didn't close Gitmo like he f*cking promised to do. Torture is wrong and ineffective. Gitmo is a travesty of fail.

Gugino walks the walk that I'm too comfortable to walk. He's literally standing up for the causes that I believe in but I'm too much of a cowardly b*tch to go out and do anything about because I love my gyms, video games, books, traveling to eat food in far away lands, technology and gadgets, and internet.


Gugino is a legit stand-up guy that got pushed down by some cowards who hid behind riot gear, guns, and badges.

I agree he shouldn't have been shoved, but I've watched the video multiple times. The cops appear to be telling people to back up. Yet he walks forward and seems to grab at the cops 2-3 times and then is violently shoved down.

I have to agree with those who have said he was trying to provoke a response. I have no other explanation for why he'd keep walking forward and continually try to grab at these cops.

And yes the cops are cowardly. They didn't need to violently shove him and if he was trying to provoke them they shouldn't have given in.

Originally posted by Surtur
I agree he shouldn't have been shoved, but I've watched the video multiple times. The cops appear to be telling people to back up. Yet he walks forward and seems to grab at the cops 2-3 times and then is violently shoved down.

I'm with the police-apologists on one point of this discussion: he was barely pushed. Barely touched at all. But he's old, thin, and clearly frail. So he had no balance or strength to prevent himself from falling back. If it was someone like me or anyone who isn't old and frail, we'd barely move with that tap.

Originally posted by Surtur
I have to agree with those who have said he was trying to provoke a response. I have no other explanation for why he'd keep walking forward and continually try to grab at these cops.

He's far to old and frail to confront the tyrannical, evil, and wrong police. Perhaps he expected to be a martyr?


Keep in mind I am a patriot who loves freedom, the constitution, etc. It also means I do not like unfair, large, and tyrannical governments. It should be obvious I do not support either a nanny-state or police-state. I do not support militaristic police.

Originally posted by dadudemon
he was barely pushed. Barely touched at all.

bullshit. cop on the left gave him a two-arm nightstick shove.

f*ck your gaslighting, ddm. maybe stop acting like a deceiving piece of shit for once

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
bullshit. cop on the left gave him a two-arm nightstick shove.

Bullshit. Stop lying because you're constantly hysterical. He was barely pushed. I watched the video over and over and over.

Take your lies and hysteria elsewhere: I'm not buying your snake oil.

#BootLickersMatter

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At least we all agree he was trying to provoke a response

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
#BootLickersMatter

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dadudemon: *supports old man's causes in direct terms. Points out that he's old and frail so barely pushing him caused him to take a stumble.*


PVS: "ERMUHGAWD! BLUELIVESMATTER BOOTLIKCER!"

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