Lobo vs Gladiator

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lawest9
Who wins?

carver9
What speed fts does Lobo have?

StiltmanFTW
Gladiator.

I imagine Lobo would perform little better than Drax.

Senor Cage
Lobo. He killed Santa Claus.

StiltmanFTW
So did Deadpool.

Senor Cage
Lobo has better healing/regeneration, strength feats, he's easily more intelligent, etc..

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Senor Cage
he's easily more intelligent

Ha.

No, he's a total moron:

https://i.ibb.co/Sf7J5vj/hit01.png

MrMind
lobo

StiltmanFTW
Lobo doesn't have what it takes.

Senor Cage
Lobo is an actual super-genius.

https://i.imgur.com/lu7UDP2.jpg

And then there is this...

https://i.imgur.com/O5Dej4d.jpg

BruceSkywalker
Glads takes this

StiltmanFTW
Outlier.

Same with the strength feat.

Glads busted a planet up with a few hits.

Senor Cage
Nahh, he's also re-programmed mother box's and created a special virus to kill off his entire race.

Also, check out the Pulsar Stargrave feat, which is better than pretty much anything Gladiator has done. Because he doesn't do LOGIC. thumb up

StiltmanFTW
Gladiator doesn't go logic, either.

He lifts entire skyscrapers which should crumble under their own weight.

Senor Cage
Lobo does that on a daily basis.

StiltmanFTW
Yeah, sure.

Lobo does get manhandled on a daily basis.

Including the casual slaps from Batman which took care of him.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Gladiator doesn't go logic, either.

He lifts entire skyscrapers which should crumble under their own weight.

Skyscrapers are less than stars dood.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Skyscrapers are less than stars dood.

Sure, but my point is, it's not logical that they don't crumble when Glads lifts them.

As noticed on panel, btw.

So, technically, neither of them does logical.

Senor Cage
Lobo tell Glads to hold my beer. Lol

StiltmanFTW
Glads holds his beer and reduces him to a puddle of blood with his heat vision thumb up

He drinks Lobo's beer, Lobo regenerates, then Glads pummels him with his fists.

Senor Cage
Lobo has regenerated from a puddle of blood instantly. Good luck with that.

carver9
Originally posted by Senor Cage
Lobo has regenerated from a puddle of blood instantly. Good luck with that.

Instantly? Scans please.

xXI_wing_IXx
Lobo instant regeneration:

https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/9/93852/1672708-loboregenerate.jpg

https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/9/93852/1672712-loboregenerate2.jpg

https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/9/93852/1672713-loboregenerate3.jpg

The only way to permanently kill Lobo is to vaporize his entire body which I think Gladiator could do.

DarkSaint85
Carver: it wasn't instant because *mental gymnastics*

StiltmanFTW
6-8 panels =/= not instantaneous.

But it was pretty damn fast, no doubt about that.

Senor Cage
Originally posted by xXI_wing_IXx
Lobo instant regeneration:

https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/9/93852/1672708-loboregenerate.jpg

https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/9/93852/1672712-loboregenerate2.jpg

https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/9/93852/1672713-loboregenerate3.jpg

The only way to permanently kill Lobo is to vaporize his entire body which I think Gladiator could do.

thumb up

He doesn't even need a head to fight.

https://i.imgur.com/RqfaNQJ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/8TtsxTP.jpg

Senor Cage
Another beastly healing feat.

https://i.imgur.com/XiVRzuU.jpg

StiltmanFTW
Good thing Gladiator doesn't get so easily damaged as Lobo does.

Senor Cage
Even time storms have nothing on the main man.

carver9
None of those scans are instantaneous

juggernaut74
Lobo frags this wannabe clown.

Juntai
Lobo is one of the best characters in either company. He reminds us not to take it too serious.

If we took Lobo at his feats, he'd be on the toughest guys to beat on the forum. And you can't really call it outliers because he does outlandish shit constantly through his books and his appearances.

That said, I think Lobo gives him hell, and could certainly win sometimes like showing up and kicking him in the dick and hooking his neck and dragging him through a beatdown, but more often than not Glads emerges at the end.

xXI_wing_IXx
bfr

xXI_wing_IXx
It's essentially Lobo vs Superman

Juntai
Originally posted by xXI_wing_IXx
It's essentially Lobo vs Superman More like Superman's neighbor's, kid's, cousin's friend he used to have to have at Sunday school, but moved far away to Not-Even-Remotely-Close-To-Superman's-Level-ville.

carver9
Originally posted by xXI_wing_IXx
It's essentially Lobo vs Superman

Basically except Gladiator is more powerful.

Adam Grimes
If Hulk beat Gladiator nearly to death, I lol at the thought of what Lobo would do to him.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
If Hulk beat Gladiator nearly to death, I lol at the thought of what Lobo would do to him.

Hulk had a convenient plot device in nearby environment.

Lobo doesn't.

Also, Hulk would eat dozens, possibly hundreds of Lobos before you could take a pee...

Senor Cage
Originally posted by xXI_wing_IXx
It's essentially Lobo vs Superman

Glads isn't even close to Superman though. Plus, he doesn't have anything to put him down.

Adam Grimes
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Hulk had a convenient plot device in nearby environment.

Lobo doesn't.

Also, Hulk would eat dozens, possibly hundreds of Lobos before you could take a pee... How do you know how long I take to pee?

lawest9
Originally posted by Senor Cage
Glads isn't even close to Superman though. Plus, he doesn't have anything to put him down. 👍🏽

lawest9
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
How do you know how long I take to pee? You may want to check your bathroom for hidden camera's. 😳😳😳😳

xXI_wing_IXx
Originally posted by Senor Cage
Glads isn't even close to Superman though. Plus, he doesn't have anything to put him down.

I mean basically using the same tactics as Superman to deal with Lobo. Superman and Glad's powers are roughly the same.

Throwing Lobo into space or to the sun is another way cool

MrMind
gladiator is retarded, he'd try to slug it out with lobo and gets fragged

carver9
Originally posted by MrMind
gladiator is retarded, he'd try to slug it out with lobo and gets fragged

Is that why he tried to heat vision Tyrant face off first?

MrMind
carver don't make me post your sexy pics you chocolate devil

StiltmanFTW
laughing laughing laughing

Diesldude

lawest9
Pretty likely.

Stoic
Gladiator's mind-set of being a brutal killer is the only reason that I can't give Lobo the win. Lobo was able to fight Shazam to a near stalemate, but again Shazam doesn't have that killer instinct that Gladiator does. In their first fight, Lobo cleaned house with Superman, but Superman wasn't fighting him with the same amount of heart as he fought Doomsday. We later see Superman eclipsed by a Black Diamond of Eclipso, which resulted in a one shot KO on Lobo. I think Gladiator takes this but it wouldn't be easy, and Lobo may even be able to pull a few wins if they fought several times.

I'd give Gladiator 65% chances of winning with all powers, and CIS being accounted for.

Senor Cage
Sinestro is pretty brutal and Lobo toyed with him. Lobo has better combat feats in general

Senor Cage
Originally posted by Stoic
Gladiator's mind-set of being a brutal killer is the only reason that I can't give Lobo the win. Lobo was able to fight Shazam to a near stalemate, but again Shazam doesn't have that killer instinct that Gladiator does. In their first fight, Lobo cleaned house with Superman, but Superman wasn't fighting him with the same amount of heart as he fought Doomsday. We later see Superman eclipsed by a Black Diamond of Eclipso, which resulted in a one shot KO on Lobo. I think Gladiator takes this but it wouldn't be easy, and Lobo may even be able to pull a few wins if they fought several times.

I'd give Gladiator 65% chances of winning with all powers, and CIS being accounted for.

Lobo KOd SHAZAM in LEGION

h1a8
Originally posted by carver9
None of those scans are instantaneous

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Carver: it wasn't instant because *mental gymnastics*

9jaboy
The Main man beats the living daylights out of this cheap Superman knockoff.

Stoic
Originally posted by Senor Cage
Lobo KOd SHAZAM in LEGION

They had another fight that he didn't.

Senor Cage
Do you have scans?

carver9
And Gladiator one shot dropped Rachel who was showing aspects of the Phoenix Force in War of Kings. He also choked Jane Thor to sleep with one hand.

Senor Cage
Meh. Glads isn't going to win. He has nothing to put him down.

carver9
Originally posted by Senor Cage
Meh. Glads isn't going to win. He has nothing to put him down.

Yes he does. His fists.

Senor Cage
Lobo would just kick him in the nuts

h1a8
First of all, can Lobo be koed?
Also, how long does Lobo have to be incapacitated to constitute as a win?

Stoic
Yes he can be KO'd

h1a8
Well if that's the case then Gladiator might win this one. What are his top speed and reaction feats again (quantifiable ones)?

carver9
Originally posted by h1a8
Well if that's the case then Gladiator might win this one. What are his top speed and reaction feats again (quantifiable ones)?

What are Lobos quantifiable speed fts? Scans while you're at it.

Old Man Whirly!
Speedblitzing Superman. Adventures of Superman 464

carver9
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Speedblitzing Superman. Adventures of Superman 464

How fast was he going when he speed blitzed Superman? Wonder Woman speed blitzed Amazo who was stacked with Flash and Superman speed. Are you saying she is faster or just as fast? Let me know.

Senor Cage
Glads would get rammed with Lobos spacehog. Lol and it can move near ftl speeds.

TheHulkster
Originally posted by carver9
How fast was he going when he speed blitzed Superman? Wonder Woman speed blitzed Amazo who was stacked with Flash and Superman speed. Are you saying she is faster or just as fast? Let me know.

That's that same feat we've seen so often, which is not really a speed feat.

https://imgur.com/a/G9Zn54V

This is a speed blitz:

https://imgur.com/a/rqPerfm

Stoic
Originally posted by h1a8
Well if that's the case then Gladiator might win this one. What are his top speed and reaction feats again (quantifiable ones)?

He has hyper speed or whatever that would mean. On panel he has shown that he can move from one destination to the other at well above light speeds (Multiple times faster than light). He is capable of moving his limbs at super speed like the Flash, Superman, and other speedsters. My proof comes from his fight against Masterson Thor when he fought Wonder Man, Living Lightning, and Masterson, which he lost in part due to CIS IMO.

I've said this before, if a character can attain light speed, or greater while running, they are in fact capable of moving their limbs at hyper speeds just like DBZ/DBS characters.

Reed Richards used a time dialation device to allow Thor (Classic Thor) and the rest of the FF to fight Gladiator at equalized speeds, which means that he is capable of turning slower opponents into statues, which also means that he sees things develop far faster than a slower opponent. Lobo also has a level of super speed that allows for him to operate at super speeds when facing speedy opponents.

At his best, Lobo has been able to keep up with super fast characters to an accute extent. I say an accute extent, because of the times that his unique don't do logic physiology has been tricked, which resulted in him moving at Street level speeds while fighting speedsters with the ability to psionically, or by other means of shielding their bio-electric signatures. Can Superman, or the Flash out-punch him? Yes they can. I'd assume that Gladiator, Sentry, and Blue Marvel could as well,

Gladiator needs time to be drastically slowed in order to allow slower opponents the ability to perceive him.

No matter who won this, it would be a good fight, however, the logic busting powers of Lobo would be met by Gladiator's own logic busting powers, as they are actually psionic in nature, and not wholly physical.

Gladiator FTW by a margin of 60-65% on average IMO. Lobo has holes in the efficiency of his ability to lock onto an opponents bio-electric signature, and with Gladiator that's a big no no, since his entire psionic invulnerability scheme protects against these types of invasive probings. As seen with Vulcan.

TheHulkster
Originally posted by h1a8
Well if that's the case then Gladiator might win this one. What are his top speed and reaction feats again (quantifiable ones)?

https://m.imgur.com/HED8TVB
https://m.imgur.com/sMC5AbD
https://m.imgur.com/uF6PWJo

Stoic
Originally posted by Senor Cage
Lobo KOd SHAZAM in LEGION

It's the fight that they had while on an alien planet. I'm sure you can find it. It's Pre Flash-Point, or is it Flashpoint? Whatever.

Senor Cage
Originally posted by Stoic
It's the fight that they had while on an alien planet. I'm sure you can find it. It's Pre Flash-Point, or is it Flashpoint? Whatever.

Yup. War of the Gods.

Flyattractor
https://imgix-media.wbdndc.net/ingest/book/preview/087afbfa-1a89-40dc-a9f5-33a7e16048e5/973a6ebe-b4c7-4ce3-922e-b5c0e21791d5/0.jpg

MrMind
that one fight where lobo shaked the universe

h1a8
Originally posted by carver9
What are Lobos quantifiable speed fts? Scans while you're at it. You are a dummy. You quoted me asking for Lobo's speed feats while asking me for them.

h1a8
Originally posted by Stoic
He has hyper speed or whatever that would mean. On panel he has shown that he can move from one destination to the other at well above light speeds (Multiple times faster than light). He is capable of moving his limbs at super speed like the Flash, Superman, and other speedsters. My proof comes from his fight against Masterson Thor when he fought Wonder Man, Living Lightning, and Masterson, which he lost in part due to CIS IMO.

I've said this before, if a character can attain light speed, or greater while running, they are in fact capable of moving their limbs at hyper speeds just like DBZ/DBS characters.

Reed Richards used a time dialation device to allow Thor (Classic Thor) and the rest of the FF to fight Gladiator at equalized speeds, which means that he is capable of turning slower opponents into statues, which also means that he sees things develop far faster than a slower opponent. Lobo also has a level of super speed that allows for him to operate at super speeds when facing speedy opponents.

At his best, Lobo has been able to keep up with super fast characters to an accute extent. I say an accute extent, because of the times that his unique don't do logic physiology has been tricked, which resulted in him moving at Street level speeds while fighting speedsters with the ability to psionically, or by other means of shielding their bio-electric signatures. Can Superman, or the Flash out-punch him? Yes they can. I'd assume that Gladiator, Sentry, and Blue Marvel could as well,

Gladiator needs time to be drastically slowed in order to allow slower opponents the ability to perceive him.

No matter who won this, it would be a good fight, however, the logic busting powers of Lobo would be met by Gladiator's own logic busting powers, as they are actually psionic in nature, and not wholly physical.

Gladiator FTW by a margin of 60-65% on average IMO. Lobo has holes in the efficiency of his ability to lock onto an opponents bio-electric signature, and with Gladiator that's a big no no, since his entire psionic invulnerability scheme protects against these types of invasive probings. As seen with Vulcan. I was asking for Lobo's speed feats lol. I already gave Gladiator the win unless you can give me a really good speed feat from Lobo.

P. S. Time dilation Gladiator is not allowed (alternative Glads) per mod ruling.

Diesldude

9jaboy

Stoic
Originally posted by h1a8
I was asking for Lobo's speed feats lol. I already gave Gladiator the win unless you can give me a really good speed feat from Lobo.

P. S. Time dilation Gladiator is not allowed (alternative Glads) per mod ruling.

616 Gladiator is that fast as well h1. I explained how Lobo's powers work. They partially depend on his opponent, as he fluctuates in power.

Senor Cage
Lobo tends to fluctuate in power because he exists in more than one plane of existence. This explains why he can do loony tune type of feats. He's a higher being than Gladiator.

carver9
Originally posted by TheHulkster
That's that same feat we've seen so often, which is not really a speed feat.

https://imgur.com/a/G9Zn54V

This is a speed blitz:

https://imgur.com/a/rqPerfm

He had Superman in the headlock punching him. Please tell me they are not using this as a speed ft and its another showing they are talking about. PLEASE!!

Senor Cage
Lobo has tagged Flash. Insane.

https://i.imgur.com/TttXEio.jpg

xXI_wing_IXx
Gladiator does have many weaknesses that Lobo can capitalize on and get him the way. Lobo is virtually indestructible, immortal, insane regeneration speed, and survive even in outer space. I do have second thoughts about when Gladiator carries Lobo up into space. It is debatable. Lobo wouldn't just stand there frozen solid and enjoying the ride lol. He would obviously react to and attack Gladiator in mid-way. Lobo can't fly and that's the only drawback. Lobo wouldn't be able to chase Gladiator down endlessly.

Senor Cage
Originally posted by xXI_wing_IXx
Gladiator does have many weaknesses that Lobo can capitalize on and get him the way. Lobo is virtually indestructible, immortal, insane regeneration speed, and survive even in outer space. I do have second thoughts about when Gladiator carries Lobo up into space. It is debatable. Lobo wouldn't just stand there frozen solid and enjoying the ride lol. He would obviously react to and attack Gladiator in mid-way. Lobo can't fly and that's the only drawback. Lobo wouldn't be able to chase Gladiator down endlessly.

Lobo can't fly, but don't forget about his Spacehog, which allows him to escape planetary explosions and the pull of black holes. His bike should be considered standard gear/tech.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by carver9
He had Superman in the headlock punching him. Please tell me they are not using this as a speed ft and its another showing they are talking about. PLEASE!!
It's still a speed feat. He administered multiple blows along with Supes "quick" comment.
However it does lack by way of being able to be quantified.
Still a speed feat though and adds to Lobo's overall capabilities.

h1a8
Originally posted by Stoic
616 Gladiator is that fast as well h1. I explained how Lobo's powers work. They partially depend on his opponent, as he fluctuates in power. That doesn't prove how fast he can be. We don't use no limit fallacies here. What are Lobo speed feats?
Well use 616 Glad feats then not feats from a disallowed character.

Flyattractor
Superman once commented that Lobo was attacking to fast for him to react to.

There is that.

That and the DC Encyclopedia Literally says He has some Super Speed Abilities or at least Lightening Fast Reaction Times.

carver9
Originally posted by Senor Cage
Lobo has tagged Flash. Insane.

https://i.imgur.com/TttXEio.jpg

Do I need to name everyone whom tagged Flash?

carver9
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
It's still a speed feat. He administered multiple blows along with Supes "quick" comment.
However it does lack by way of being able to be quantified.
Still a speed feat though and adds to Lobo's overall capabilities.

I get that but it's not enough to say he will overwhelm Gladiator.

LordofBrooklyn
Originally posted by carver9
I get that but it's not enough to say he will overwhelm Gladiator.

THIS is the face your precious Gladiator will make when Lobo overwhelms him!

https://uncannyxmen.net/sites/default/files/images/characters/gladiator/gladiator11.jpg

Senor Cage
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
THIS is the face your precious Gladiator will make when Lobo overwhelms him!

https://uncannyxmen.net/sites/default/files/images/characters/gladiator/gladiator11.jpg

thumb up

carver9
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
THIS is the face your precious Gladiator will make when Lobo overwhelms him!

https://uncannyxmen.net/sites/default/files/images/characters/gladiator/gladiator11.jpg

laughing out loud laughing out loud

h1a8
I now get what some are saying. Lobo does not do logical. He acts as if he has the toon force. In other words, it's possible for him to fight up to Glads speed by uttering some nonsense prior (like what he did to Flash). Glads still has the range and mobility though. Lobo can regenerate. That means if Glads does not string all his hits together in time then Lobo would recover and Glads will be back at square one with some loss of confidence. This might can go either way but I'm still slightly leaning towards Gladiator.

Stoic
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
THIS is the face your precious Gladiator will make when Lobo overwhelms him!

https://uncannyxmen.net/sites/default/files/images/characters/gladiator/gladiator11.jpg

Deliberate lowball. Did I ever mention Lobo being stunned by a sledgehammer to the face? He was hit by a normal human.

Originally posted by h1a8
I now get what some are saying. Lobo does not do logical. He acts as if he has the toon force. In other words, it's possible for him to fight up to Glads speed by uttering some nonsense prior (like what he did to Flash). Glads still has the range and mobility though. Lobo can regenerate. That means if Glads does not string all his hits together in time then Lobo would recover and Glads will be back at square one with some loss of confidence. This might can go either way but I'm still slightly leaning towards Gladiator.

Not really. Lobo performs differently depending on his opponent. He does this by lockicking onto his opponents bio-electric energy signature, which is why he has extreme highs at times, and extreme lows at other times. The problem with him fighting Gladiator, is that Gladiator's powers are psionic in nature.

lawest9
Lobo makes Glads lose his confidence.

carver9
Originally posted by lawest9
Lobo makes Glads lose his confidence.

Who has made Gladiator lose his confidence for you to say this? Scans please.

lawest9
Hmmmm.........Hulk, Cannonball, Vulcan for instance......
.

Senor Cage
Glads uses his heat vision to melt Lobos face off, then lobo regenerates. Confidence gone.

lawest9
Originally posted by Senor Cage
Glads uses his heat vision to melt Lobos face off, then lobo regenerates. Confidence gone. 👍🏾

JBL
The only time Gladiator loses confidence is when somebody so far beneath him stand up to his assault. Supreme, Tyrant, Thor, Thanos, annihilus and other powerhouses couldn't do it.

Adam Grimes
When his face is all mushy I bet Glad won't be feeling very hot, I tell you.

carver9
Originally posted by lawest9
Hmmmm.........Hulk, Cannonball, Vulcan for instance......
.

He never lost confidence against Hulk. Cannonball, it did happen and the only reason it happened is because Gladiator knew his power was fsr above Cannonball but his attack failed. Never happened against Vulcan. Maybe I need to rephrase this. When did he lose confidence against a PEER?

xXI_wing_IXx
Originally posted by Senor Cage
Glads uses his heat vision to melt Lobos face off, then lobo regenerates. Confidence gone.

This could be possible. Repeated many times I mean with some added mocking statements to the mix.

Diesldude

Diesldude
Originally posted by carver9
He never lost confidence against Hulk. Cannonball, it did happen and the only reason it happened is because Gladiator knew his power was fsr above Cannonball but his attack failed. Never happened against Vulcan. Maybe I need to rephrase this. When did he lose confidence against a PEER?

https://naturalgasnow.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Moving-the-goalposts-300x2402.jpg

Parmaniac
Originally posted by Senor Cage
Lobo tell Glads to hold my beer. Lol You're obviously biased since Lobo is your friend.

lawest9
Originally posted by Parmaniac
You're obviously biased since Lobo is your friend. laughing

xXI_wing_IXx
Originally posted by xXI_wing_IXx
This could be possible. Repeated many times I mean with some added mocking statements to the mix.

Something similar to this in Lobo's favor:

https://i.imgur.com/SfwVsSg.jpg

carver9
Originally posted by xXI_wing_IXx
Something similar to this in Lobo's favor:

https://i.imgur.com/SfwVsSg.jpg

Gladiator lose confidence when weak opponents withstand his blows. He doesn't lose confidence when a peer survives an attack from him.

-Pr-
He'd have to consider them a peer first.

carver9
Originally posted by -Pr-
He'd have to consider them a peer first.

Agreed. Especially with him being their superior. Its like downgrading yourself.

-Pr-
That's not... What?

carver9
Lol... hey, you left it open, so i added my own spice to it.

Senor Cage
Originally posted by xXI_wing_IXx
Something similar to this in Lobo's favor:

https://i.imgur.com/SfwVsSg.jpg

laughing out loud

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by -Pr-
That's not... What?

Lmao

Adam Grimes
Lol

lawest9
Originally posted by -Pr-
That's not... What? You should be too experienced to let Carv pull that on ya.

xXI_wing_IXx
Mr.Fantastic is smart and seems like he had some prep so his plan could have been to exploit his confidence.

lawest9
Originally posted by xXI_wing_IXx
Mr.Fantastic is smart and seems like he had some prep so his plan could have been to exploit his confidence. It's obvious that he did.

Flyattractor
Yeah. He got His wife to do all the Work.

RICHARDS IS THE SMARTEST MAN IN THE WORLD!

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