Oxford college backs removal of Cecil Rhodes statue
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Old Man Whirly!
Oxford college backs removal of Cecil Rhodes statue
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2020/jun/17/end-of-the-rhodes-cecil-oxford-college-ditches-controversial-statue?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy
Good.
Old Man Whirly!
Rhodes statue: tech boss pledges to cover funds pulled by 'racist donors'
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/18/rhodes-statue-tech-boss-pledges-to-cover-funds-pulled-by-racist-donors?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy
Old Man Whirly!
Perhaps you could merge this please mods into the BLM thread.
Blakemore
This deserves a thread on it's own tbh. The only thing I know about Rhodes is Rhodesia was named after him and now it's called Namibia. I'm thinking, "what to do with the statue?" museum?
Old Man Whirly!
Originally posted by Blakemore
This deserves a thread on it's own tbh. The only thing I know about Rhodes is Rhodesia was named after him and now it's called Namibia. I'm thinking, "what to do with the statue?" museum? I think we should maybe have an honest museum about our colonial past, perhaps by the Imperiel War Museum near Southwark Cathedral. The grounds there are big, give it an explanation too.
Blakemore
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
I think we should maybe have an honest museum about our colonial past, perhaps by the Imperiel War Museum near Southwark Cathedral. The grounds there are big, give it an explanation too. I'd be down with that.
cdtm
The one the Rhodes Scholar award is named after?
For Imperialism apparently, not for slave ownership.
You realize literally every country in the world has its skeletons. Keep down this path, and suddenly people are perfectly justified in condemning other countries lock, stock, and barrel, which clashes with multiculturalist concerns, as many people have pride in their country of origins history and take great offense at criticism towards it.
But good for the goose is good for the gander, as they say.
Old Man Whirly!
Originally posted by cdtm
The one the Rhodes Scholar award is named after?
For Imperialism apparently, not for slave ownership.
You realize literally every country in the world has its skeletons. Keep down this path, and suddenly people are perfectly justified in condemning other countries lock, stock, and barrel, which clashes with multiculturalist concerns, as many people have pride in their country of origins history and take great offense at criticism towards it.
But good for the goose is good for the gander, as they say. You realise no Country in the world comes close to Britains. Except or estranged, retarded child the US of A. You've only been ****ing the world stage up a short time in comparison, but you've done it in s world of higher populations
That said despite Europes waning, the Ango Saxon brits are responsible for all the society we have today, good and bad. You wouldn't be reading this post in "English" otherwise.
SquallX
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
You realise no Country in the world comes close to Britains. Except or estranged, retarded child the US of A. You've only been ****ing the world stage up a short time in comparison, but you've done it in s world of higher populations
That said despite Europes waning, the Ango Saxon brits are responsible for all the society we have today, good and bad. You wouldn't be reading this post in "English" otherwise.
Yes, blame every evil on the big bad US. The US is no innocent Country, but every other county have down just as worse, if not worse than the US.
Best example is the Ottoman Empire and all the evils they committed before their defeat in WW1.
ares834
facepalm
Re-read his post.
SquallX
Originally posted by ares834
facepalm
Re-read his post.
I know, I was adding further to his point.
I guess it came out as me disagreeing I guess.
Surtur
Speaking of Oxford, lol:
Oxford University allows students 'affected' by George Floyd death to apply for special consideration in exams
cdtm
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
You realise no Country in the world comes close to Britains. Except or estranged, retarded child the US of A. You've only been ****ing the world stage up a short time in comparison, but you've done it in s world of higher populations
That said despite Europes waning, the Ango Saxon brits are responsible for all the society we have today, good and bad. You wouldn't be reading this post in "English" otherwise.
My point is, where does it end?
'Cause pretty sure there are no real heroes. Point one out, someone else will dig out a skeleton.
Why not just tear down all the statues, and be done with it?
cdtm
Actually,. even outside of that point I'm not sure I agree scope and breadth are necessarily defining characteristics of "bad".
Is it your view that if someone messes up their own country, even if they genocided many people within their own borders, that this makes them better then an expansionist power who messes with dozens, or scores of dozens of countries?
I think many do feel this way. I see it a different way.
Every country wants to be an expansionist power. Those that never quite got there, only didn't because they never got their shit together enough to do so.
This business of taking offense at all the monstrosities of imperialism strikes me as bad on both sides. Bad on the side of those who take offense at a pretty natural, if monsterous, part of human nature (And I bet you there's some jealously it wasn't their country of origin that got to play grim reaper to the world, instead of being just another pawn on the big board)
And its bad on the people making all these symbolic gestures like taking down statues. Because ALL they're doing is making stupid, useless gestures while enjoying the benefits of their imperialist ancestors. And for what? Because someone might get angry at them and ruin their way of life?
Cowards.
We all enjoy lives built on blood money in one form or another, myfriend.s
Blakemore
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
You realise no Country in the world comes close to Britains. Except or estranged, retarded child the US of A. You've only been ****ing the world stage up a short time in comparison, but you've done it in s world of higher populations
That said despite Europes waning, the Ango Saxon brits are responsible for all the society we have today, good and bad. You wouldn't be reading this post in "English" otherwise. If it weren't Britain, it would have been France....
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