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Scott Snyder confirmed that The Source/Presence(probably Overvoid too) is supreme being in DC cosmology.
I understand that.
But, I want to know who is secoed strongest being because there are many probably second strongest being like brothers(Michael and Lucifer,we need not expression), CAS(because Superman represents hope which is supreme concept in DC) and Mandrakk(opposite of Superman, and he is editor), Mr Mxy and Batmite(They represent imagination),etc.

So,Who is secoed strongest being in entire DC cosmology?

Manhattan

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Manhattan
Manhattan too because he is supercelestials.
But,Doesn't he confirm that he is still below Superman?

No

Originally posted by carver9
No

No what?

Originally posted by CatL18
So, You think
Manhattan>>>Anti body Superman?

This is true. Manhattan won't be able to defeat him like Emperor Joker could not. A brief sundip and Superman will resist anything Manhattan throws at him and then just punch his lights out.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
No what?

No, SIR!

Originally posted by Diesldude
This is true. Manhattan won't be able to defeat him like Emperor Joker could not. A brief sundip and Superman will resist anything Manhattan throws at him and then just punch his lights out.
I agree.
Off course, ordinary Superman is infinitely far weaker than Manhattan though.
If the world is at stake and it depends on Superman's shoulder, He will defeat even Manhattan.

In fact, Everything restarted even after Dr Manhattan had erased everything in DC,didn't it?

BTW, when Manhattan erased everything in DC, Does this destruction include even Perpetua?

Originally posted by Diesldude
This is true. Manhattan won't be able to defeat him like Emperor Joker could not. A brief sundip and Superman will resist anything Manhattan throws at him and then just punch his lights out.

This is true.

The Presence.

Originally posted by Astner
The Presence.

The Overseers (mentioned in Wonder Woman)

The Cosmic Judges (Mentioned in Snyder's Metal events). The cosmic bird (worked for the judges) owned Perpetua.

1. Presence
2. The Batman

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Actually the opposite is true. Manhattan saw that he can't win this fight because Superman is the Anti Body to everything that tries to end DC. Superman > Manhattan if Manhattan tries to erase Superman from DC or if he tries to end the DC Omniverse. Manhattan > Superman if it comes to fighting beings in the Universe on a regular basis (story). Wow, comics sure are stupid now lol

manhattan one shotted metron while on his chair. Darkseid couldn't even scratch him.

Originally posted by Mindset
Wow, comics sure are stupid now lol

Not more stupid than you attempting to rape us all in 2005-2010...

In my opinion the Writer is the most powerful being. The Presence or the Yellow Aliens would be second.

Originally posted by Mindset
Wow, comics sure are stupid now lol
Who else did you expect would write DC comics in the future other than the degenerates over at fanfiction.net?

Anyone remember?

https://i.imgur.com/aVxhHBN.jpg

You all just say anything.

Originally posted by Mindset
Wow, comics sure are stupid now lol

They were always stupid or illogical but in an entertaining way. Now they are borderline retarded, at least some of them at Marvel and DC. How are you btw.?

When things get a little pressed...
Presence 1
Superman 2.

The rest.

Originally posted by Astner
Who else did you expect would write DC comics in the future other than the degenerates over at fanfiction.net?
I don't know what is idiotic about emphasizing the metafictional idea of DC.
Isn't it what DC writers has done since at least 90's?

Which is stronger between Michael,Lucifer and Manhattan,Perpetua?
I think it is stalmate or Michael,Lucifer because both are manifestation of supreme being in multiverse.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Actually the opposite is true. Manhattan saw that he can't win this fight because Superman is the Anti Body to everything that tries to end DC. Superman > Manhattan if Manhattan tries to erase Superman from DC or if he tries to end the DC Omniverse. Manhattan > Superman if it comes to fighting beings in the Universe on a regular basis (story).
They're too on the nose with this shit.
Everybody wants to be Morrison apparently.

Originally posted by krisblaze
They're too on the nose with this shit.
Everybody wants to be Morrison apparently.
Not only Geoff but Scott Snyder is Morrison's follower.

Originally posted by Diesldude
When things get a little pressed...
Presence 1
Superman 2.

The rest. Superman is 2nd to the presence now? What an upgrade👍

Originally posted by JBL
Superman is 2nd to the presence now? What an upgrade👍
Not ordinary Superman.
Don't confuse.

Batman will always rape Superman.

Originally posted by CatL18
I don't know what is idiotic about emphasizing the metafictional idea of DC.
It's not. But there has to be a purpose to it, an exploration of the philosophical ramifications and various questions that may be raised. What's the difference between reality and fiction? Is there something more "real" than real, and if so, what could that be? etc.

Instead, what we get is an in-universe excuse for Superman's plot armor. It's just like the excuses that are being written into fan fictions as a response to criticism.

Originally posted by CatL18
Isn't it what DC writers has done since at least 90's?
Try late 00's with the end of the Final Crisis. But back then it wasn't bad, because Morrison had an idea with it. The struggles in the books were meant to reflect real contemporary struggles. It wasn't my cup of tea, but it wasn't bad.

Originally posted by Astner
It's not. But there has to be a purpose to it, an exploration of the philosophical ramifications and various questions that may be raised. What's the difference between reality and fiction? Is there something more "real" than real, and if so, what could that be? etc.

Instead, what we get is an in-universe excuse for Superman's plot armor. It's just like the excuses that are being written into fan fictions as a response to criticism.

I agree Geoff and Snyder are only follower of Morrison though,But their work is not bad,I think.
Both are based on their setting about how Superman/Batman is important in DC cosmology.
Do you hate Geoff and Snyder?

Doomsday Clock truly was awful.

I
No, I meant that Morrison and Geoff are based on how
important Superman is in modern Superhero genre. On the other hand, Snyder treat Batman as his favorite.
So,I said Superman "and" Batman.
I agree that for Snyder, Superman is just the main character because he is famous.He like Batman more than Superman.

BTW,I don't dislike Geoff and Snyder because they are less skilled than Morrison though, They are still good writers.

Which is stronger between Archangels and Supercelestials?