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I figured there are probably a lot of members here who like to predict the outcome of the election and even though it's early, I think we all know it's going to be a Trump vs Biden election. No prediction is definitive and you can make as many as you want, but I feel this will make for interesting discussion points.

Anyway, this is mine as of this date.
https://www.270towin.com/maps/2j8ZZ

I imagine it'll be very similar to the 2016 map. Most of the map will be red with a few ugly blue spots here and there (like Cali and NY).

To make a prediction, go here: https://www.270towin.com/

No one cares, Blakemore.

Originally posted by Blakemore
Anyway, this is mine as of this date.
https://www.270towin.com/maps/2j8ZZ

That's VERY close to the map I'd make.

I'm predicting Trump votes to be 65-72 million. Biden votes 55-65 million.

Originally posted by dadudemon
That's VERY close to the map I'd make.

I'm predicting Trump votes to be 65-72 million. Biden votes 55-65 million. I'm confident this will be closer than 2016, which was already very close, but I have a feeling Minnesota will flip red considering the riots, and Biden will do well in Pennsylvania's urban areas because of his connections there.

Hard to predict right now. Still think Trump will probably win but it will be closer than 2016 probably both in popular vote and electorally. If the election were held today Biden would probably win. But a lot can and probably will change by November.

Originally posted by BackFire
Hard to predict right now. Still think Trump will probably win but it will be closer than 2016 probably both in popular vote and electorally. If the election were held today Biden would probably win. But a lot can and probably will change by November. Yeah. Right now Biden will probably sweep most of the midwest, but we all know how a little incident can go a long way.

Originally posted by Blakemore
Yeah. Right now Biden will probably sweep most of the midwest, but we all know how a little incident can go a long way.

Biden will lose all of the midwest. I think you made a typo.

Trump will win all of the Midwest.



And based on the support Trump is seeing on his Rally revival, Trump may win this by an even larger margin that I'm predicting. As Backfire said, we really gotta wait and see how this plays out.



I think you correctly called it with the Minnesota protesters/criminals. According to actual science, extreme forms of protest actually drive people away from your position. Don't be fooled by the corporate fawning and pandering, Mainstream Media fawning and pandering, or celeb fawning and pandering with pro-Black, anti-cop actions and rhetoric. They represent a fringe PC minority of actual people. Rest assured, people are driven further away from their issues and causes and they have set back their causes over 10 years with this stupid shit.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Biden will lose all of the midwest. I think you made a typo.

Trump will win all of the Midwest.



And based on the support Trump is seeing on his Rally revival, Trump may win this by an even larger margin that I'm predicting. As Backfire said, we really gotta wait and see how this plays out.



I think you correctly called it with the Minnesota protesters/criminals. According to actual science, extreme forms of protest actually drive people away from your position. Don't be fooled by the corporate fawning and pandering, Mainstream Media fawning and pandering, or celeb fawning and pandering with pro-Black, anti-cop actions and rhetoric. They represent a fringe PC minority of actual people. Rest assured, people are driven further away from their issues and causes and they have set back their causes over 10 years with this stupid shit. Well if Pennsylvania and Virginia flip, what's not to say Maine and NH will flip as well? Or Colorado and Nevada? Nah, I was way too ambitious last time. I think I'm pretty close with what I've got, but it is too early to call. Still think what I've got is close to what will happen.

Edit: I made this one because it looks a lot neater.
https://www.270towin.com/maps/3d0K1

Originally posted by Blakemore
Well if Pennsylvania and Virginia flip, what's not to say Maine and NH will flip as well? Or Colorado and Nevada? Nah, I was way too ambitious last time. I think I'm pretty close with what I've got, but it is too early to call. Still think what I've got is close to what will happen.

Edit: I made this one because it looks a lot neater.
https://www.270towin.com/maps/3d0K1

What are your popular vote spread predictions for both of them?

Originally posted by dadudemon
What are your popular vote spread predictions for both of them? Both parties gain more votes, closer margins, dems still win popular vote but by like a very small amount.

65m R - 66m D

Originally posted by Blakemore
Both parties gain more votes, closer margins, dems still win popular vote but by like a very small amount.

65m R - 66m D

hmm

We will see. Just a few months away. Then we get to see which side experiences a meltdown.

Or maybe 67R - 68D

That's a 49:50 ratio of pop vote

With all this thuggish rioting, looting, statue-destroying, and demonization of police by BLM, sensible Americans want law and order returned to our land. DT is the law and order president. Biden? LOL. Biden won't do what needs to be done to bring it back. The man doesn't even remember his own name half the time lol.


That's why I have a suspicion that Biden will be discarded at the DNC convention for someone else. Someone who can at least form coherent sentences/thoughts.

Regardless of who the dem nominee will ultimately be though, I still think Trump is gonna win pretty handily.

Backfire voted for Trump because he didnt want to be a loser

Trump isn't winning Minnesota. Almost no chance of that happening.

Did he win it in 2016?

No.

Originally posted by Blakemore
I figured there are probably a lot of members here who like to predict the outcome of the election and even though it's early, I think we all know it's going to be a Trump vs Biden election. No prediction is definitive and you can make as many as you want, but I feel this will make for interesting discussion points.

Anyway, this is mine as of this date.
https://www.270towin.com/maps/2j8ZZ

I think you're wrong with Minnesota and Ohio likely could flip Blue again in 2020. Just those two changes to your map nets Biden a win.

Michigan likely could go Blue again

Florida is another that could flip Blue, but I'd not bet on it cos Florida.

edit: Had to check to make sure, but Obama carried both Minnesota and Michigan in 2008 and 2012. Biden can do it in 2020

Originally posted by Robtard
I think you're wrong with Minnesota and Ohio likely could flip Blue again in 2020. Just those two changes to your map nets Biden a win.

Michigan likely could go Blue again

Florida is another that could flip Blue, but I'd not bet on it cos Florida.

edit: Had to check to make sure, but Obama carried both Minnesota and Michigan in 2008 and 2012. Biden can do it in 2020 Michigan is more likely than Ohio imo. I'm only really going on Minnesota because it's main city has been destroyed. Biggest Dem place gone to me means a Rep state.

Wisconsin is also a bit of a toss up but if I were to rank the midwest from Rep to Dem I'd go:

Ohio, Wisconsin, Michigan/Minnesota, Pennsylvania

the rest will probably stay as they were in 2016.

Originally posted by Blakemore
Michigan is more likely than Ohio imo. I'm only really going on Minnesota because it's main city has been destroyed. Biggest Dem place gone to me means a Rep state.

Wisconsin is also a bit of a toss up but if I were to rank the midwest from Rep to Dem I'd go:

Ohio, Wisconsin, Michigan/Minnesota, Pennsylvania

the rest will probably stay as they were in 2016.

It's not as if people in Minneapolis moved out of state... Anyway, the city is far from "destroyed".

Kinda like how he was "in trouble" against Hillary all throughout 2016, eh? Sorry, but anyone who still puts much stock in those "scientific" polls is naive.

Whoever wins we all lose

Originally posted by ares834
It's not as if people in Minneapolis moved out of state... Anyway, the city is far from "destroyed". COVID aside, the midwestern people tend to move to Florida.

I feel it's nonsense. I feel that, after 2016, anyone who thinks they can guess who can win based on polls, etc. is delusional

I'm not relying on polls!

Polls or election maps or fairies or crystal balls, i don't care what you're relying on

Originally posted by carthage
Whoever wins we all lose


Nah. If Trump wins he'll bring back law and order to our country. If Trump wins ( which I'm fairly certain he will), that'll make me very happy and only anti-Trump retards will be the losers.

Originally posted by Surtur
I feel it's nonsense. I feel that, after 2016, anyone who thinks they can guess who can win based on polls, etc. is delusional

I think Trump will win decisively in the Electoral College and Biden may win the popular vote.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Nah. If Trump wins he'll bring back law and order to our country. If Trump wins ( which I'm fairly certain he will), that'll make me very happy and only anti-Trump retards will be the losers.

Why didn't he do that in his first term...

Originally posted by Robtard
Why didn't he do that in his first term...

Because he was too busy doing the important work of triggering the libs.

Originally posted by Robtard
Why didn't he do that in his first term...


Uh, because people weren't rioting and looting like a bunch of thugs on such a widescale as they are now.

Communist losers weren't taking over cities like they are now in Seattle, either.

I mean, do we really wanna get into a "why didn't he do that" debate? Really?

We can. It wouldn't end well for democrats considering what Obama didn't do, but we can have that debate nonetheless.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Uh, because people weren't rioting and looting like a bunch of thugs on such a widescale as they are now.

Communist losers weren't taking over cities like they are now in Seattle, either.

So excuses. I thought Trump was the toughest and manliest man president ever, certainly how he sold himself.

Originally posted by Robtard
So excuses. I thought Trump was the toughest and manliest man president ever, certainly how he sold himself.


No, what I said was the truth, Rob...unless you wanna sit there and pretend like these riots, looting, thugs taking over cities, and the demonizing of police on such a large scale have been going on since Trump was sworn in which we all know isn't true.

Hes struggling against Biden. Imagine he actually had a half competent opponent.

Nah, he ain't struggling.

Originally posted by Robtard
Going by how much trouble he had raising a glass a water, maybe not. Have to wonder who wipes it for him? Stephen Miller?

No. Steven Miller milks his prostate everyday.

Originally posted by BackFire
No. Steven Miller milks his prostate everyday.

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Originally posted by Eon Blue
No one cares, Blakemore. Haha! Wrong.

Originally posted by Robtard
Why didn't he do that in his first term...

Nobody went after Trump in his first term or bogged him down with petty investigations

Nope

Originally posted by Surtur
Nobody went after Trump in his first term or bogged him down with petty investigations

Nope

Who said this happened, they would be lying if there wasn’t 3 years of investigations by federal, and state law enforcement. As well as special prosecutors and the house and intel community.

Originally posted by Surtur
Nobody went after Trump in his first term or bogged him down with petty investigations

Nope


More excuses for Trump's failures. Shocking.

Originally posted by Robtard
More excuses for Trump's failures. Shocking.

irony

Broly, that was his point.... he couldn't be Cap'n murka cos day gone took his president jarb of mekin murka greet agane

Originally posted by Blakemore
COVID aside, the midwestern people tend to move to Florida.

Not the people living in the city and who vote democrat...

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Hes struggling against Biden. Imagine he actually had a half competent opponent.

Then maybe the Democrats should have put up a competent candidate. When Biden loses, and he very likely will, the Democratic party have no one to blame but themselves. They really should have learned after Hillary's loss.

Originally posted by ares834
Then maybe the Democrats should have put up a competent candidate. When Biden loses, and he very likely will, the Democratic party have no one to blame but themselves. They really should have learned after Hillary's loss.

Exactly. And it frustrates me to no end that they just can't help themselves.

Originally posted by ares834
Then maybe the Democrats should have put up a competent candidate. When Biden loses, and he very likely will, the Democratic party have no one to blame but themselves. They really should have learned after Hillary's loss.


Yeah I agree.

They literally picked the one candidate who could still lose under these circumstances.

Maybe they secretly like Trump. Love to Hate him maybe?

Could be. Trump probably helps their fundraising numbers.

A vote for "harm reduction" in Biden is not enough for me to support a shitty candidate and the terrible system that perpetuates candidates like Biden. I'll be sitting this one out again, whoever wins really doesn't matter to me. Biden probably wouldn't close GITMO, repeal the Patriot ACT, stop endless foreign wars, legalize Marijuana, etc. There's no reason to support him

Originally posted by ares834
Not the people living in the city and who vote democrat... Yeah they do. Their parents are moving to Florida so they wanna go with em and their parents get cheaper travel.