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Vulture, Doc Ock, Sandman, Electro, Kraven, Mysterio

vs

Unworthy Thor

Who wins ?

https://i.imgur.com/3C4vKB7.jpg

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/thor_marvelcomics_2239.jpg

Electro wouldn't do anything...neither would kraven, vulture. But sandman and a proper mysterio could wreck him

Electricity hurts Thor the most, as Amadeus has shown us.

Thought he used Thor own lightning against him?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Electro wouldn't do anything...neither would kraven, vulture. But sandman and a proper mysterio could wreck him


How? Nobody here can even hurt him

Sin knows Thor more than you Shadowfyre. Just trust her

Thor

A current Thor? Come on,this is spite.

spite against thor?

Black winter Thor?

Unworthy Thor

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
How? Nobody here can even hurt him
Bro, Sandman can kill Unworthy Thor if he wanted to.

Yeah ok, Unworthy Thor has no Mjolnir, but a Jarnbjorn.

The six have a good chance actually.

Thor

Originally posted by Sin I AM
But sandman and a proper mysterio could wreck him https://i0.wp.com/media4.giphy.com/media/fLK0eUlYZoB6E/giphy.gif

I see Kraven effortlessly punching him out, tbh.

Thor

dies

Rip their spleens out and some of them don't even have one

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I see Kraven effortlessly punching him out, tbh. Originally posted by carver9
Thor Yes Carver, he sees Kraven punching out Thor, you're correct.

Originally posted by carver9
Rip their spleens out and some of them don't even have one

So... what you're saying here... is that Thor can't hurt some of them?

Only Sandman can hinder a quick win.

And Mysterio.

https://i.postimg.cc/65K96RD1/06.jpg

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
How? Nobody here can even hurt him


mysterio...a proper one like in OML (both times) is a game changer. If he puts his mind to it he and Sandman would wreck thor with limitless sand golems and illusions.

Sandman is definately strong enough to hurt Thor, I'm not talking about a one shot or that he would effortlessly roll all over him but to act like he would just dish everything out he has and Thor won't give a **** is ridiculous. And since Sandman is almost impossble to defeat by pure physical means and Mysterio can grant Sandman tons of free shots via illusions to distract Thor, Thor should be in for a bad awakening.

Well, 616 Mystero has replicated OMLysterio's feat of fooling OMLogan's senses, so yeah --- potentially, he could be a great threat.

All depends on the tech he's packing at the time... and prep time increases his chances, naturally.

Mysterio is a bit like Batman he just pulls all the stuff he needs for his illusions out of his ass when needed.

Kracen just dances circles around Thor while the others gang up on him.

Even if they don't straight up beat him to death, he'd still die from sensory overload.

What if Thor only THINKS he dropped a storm the size of the moon?

Lol

Thor would have to be playing down while u would need the team's best showings to have a chance.

That's not what I meant.

https://i.ibb.co/nCF00TK/roo.png

That wouldnt work

Versus Mysterio:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7cMY4cU0AAUyjJ.jpg

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
https://i.ibb.co/nCF00TK/roo.png

Thor pisses all over the place in fear, and Sandman uses it to turn into cement, restraining Odinson for all eternity.

https://i.ibb.co/Hd5twrQ/Ng-HIei-G-Om-MLC9-F8-UU1e-S1xg-KEny-QFrt-Q0o8-YOap-FIHVmwgk-Rz1-ARQ6g-DH4uh-Cv-Nb-YZm-F2y3q-W8-s1600.jpg https://i.ibb.co/MBz8SW0/S-OGz9fj0em0-HAkgw2z-N6-x-LHI1k8-HQDvp-NUKe-J6h-Yhu-Zs-Nc-Nf-EFF4rs-V3-Tyqdlh31-Qr-Qo-NIv-Ppm-s1600.jpg

Mysterio makes him look like Aunt May and Otto proceeds to tentacle rape him.

Different powerset and different mindsets.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Completely different powerset. They are nothing alike

Mysterio makes illusions to deceives individuals except he uses technology which is inferior to Loki, who at his most powerful borderline warps reality.

Sandman's powers are a subset of Absorbing Man's powers. Creel can gain the power to become Sandman, or Hydroman, or magic-man etc. and has shown much higher peaks.

They aren't identical of course, and I'm not trying to argue that, but my point is, that much powerful versions of them are a regular part of Thor's rogue gallery for over 50 years. Your stance is pretty ridiculous in hindsight.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That's not what I meant.

Thor's senses at their best would be much superior to Mysterio's technology unless I've missed some feats?

https://ibb.co/28skG3H
https://ibb.co/fvvzVk9

He can sense Storm's and events on the other side of the Universe. I'm not sure how would Mysterio, a three-dimensional being, go about deceiving a being transcends dimensions?

https://ibb.co/b3xtkwx
https://ibb.co/jRZyBmb

"Thor at his best" doesn't quite seem to fit with this thread, which is Unworthy Thor.....

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
"Thor at his best" doesn't quite seem to fit with this thread, which is Unworthy Thor.....

Rules are not well-defined, but nothing I posted relied on Mjolnir. Unworthy Thor at his best had regained his confidence. Early on under Hickman, then post-Secret Wars II he reset to sulking phase (JA is a hack who had no new direction), and he finally became confident again in his mini.

This was Unworthy Thor:
https://ibb.co/yNcz4SX
https://ibb.co/4JbNs9L

This was Unworthy Thor who had become "worthy":
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-cb12b66e6ebc05fc97743de782bcaed0
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-79a85542e16a078204b3a4f7edc45945

Donny Cates has awaken all the thorbags back into this dead forum

I'm gonna drive to wherever Cates live, and slap the shit outta him

Stop being lame (and a hater like usual) Mr. Mind.

you already got alberto's dick on your left hand, you don't need another one my guy

Thor turns Sandman to glass and Mysterio to ash

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Rules are not well-defined, but nothing I posted relied on Mjolnir. Unworthy Thor at his best had regained his confidence. Early on under Hickman, then post-Secret Wars II he reset to sulking phase (JA is a hack who had no new direction), and he finally became confident again in his mini.

This was Unworthy Thor:
https://ibb.co/yNcz4SX
https://ibb.co/4JbNs9L

This was Unworthy Thor who had become "worthy":
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-cb12b66e6ebc05fc97743de782bcaed0
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-79a85542e16a078204b3a4f7edc45945

I understand, but your scans of his senses were all of Thor with Mjolnir. All I am asking, I guess, is what was UNWORTHY Thor's best.

OP can clarify if he wants.

Even as Blake his senses are beyond normal humans.
http://i.imgur.com/PKnVnzRm.jpg

Uhhh this is retarded and y'all's hate just pours into these Thor threads lol.

Good Lord, Thor glasses sandman with the utmost ease. Y'all are being ridiculous. He can literally one shot everyone here with one large bolt besides electro.

Also, show me a scan of Sandman physically doing one single thing that a class 100 couldn't replicate casually or just walk through.

Unworthy Thor already one shot Proxima, Hela and BlackSwan and was bringing down lightning that was as long as Grandmasters ship....yeah, they die.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Uhhh this is retarded and y'all's hate just pours into these Thor threads lol.

Good Lord, Thor glasses sandman with the utmost ease. Y'all are being ridiculous. He can literally one shot everyone here with one large bolt besides electro.

It's Unworthy Thor. So they have a chance. It's not major, but its better than if they are fighting current Thor (which, if you check, I said was a spite) or Thor with Mjolnir.

Even Rage's first post wasn't about Thor's sensory abilities, but relied on Mjolnir.

Thors innate senses dont rely on mjolnir

I have no answer for the mysterio thing because some comics Thor can see and hear people on different planets and others....he is blind and retarded.

I just know that he knows who he is fighting and eventually he is gonna get pissed and raze the battleground with lightning and it's a wrap.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Even as Blake his senses are beyond normal humans.
http://i.imgur.com/PKnVnzRm.jpg

What is this scan supposed to prove?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Mysterio makes illusions to deceives individuals except he uses technology which is inferior to Loki, who at his most powerful borderline warps reality.

Sandman's powers are a subset of Absorbing Man's powers. Creel can gain the power to become Sandman, or Hydroman, or magic-man etc. and has shown much higher peaks.

They aren't identical of course, and I'm not trying to argue that, but my point is, that much powerful versions of them are a regular part of Thor's rogue gallery for over 50 years. Your stance is pretty ridiculous in hindsight.



Thor's senses at their best would be much superior to Mysterio's technology unless I've missed some feats?

https://ibb.co/28skG3H
https://ibb.co/fvvzVk9

He can sense Storm's and events on the other side of the Universe. I'm not sure how would Mysterio, a three-dimensional being, go about deceiving a being transcends dimensions?

https://ibb.co/b3xtkwx
https://ibb.co/jRZyBmb

You're grossly overselling Thor and are either ignorant of or hand waving away the potential of a mysterio/sandman teamup.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
You're grossly overselling Thor and are either ignorant of or hand waving away the potential of a mysterio/sandman teamup.

https://i.imgur.com/QONVIyz.gif

Sin, you're so sexy when you're raping thorbags

Mysterio's fools Spiderman, who has some of the greatest danger sensing feats out there, so.....

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
What is this scan supposed to prove?
Beats me.


Seriuosly though, not really familiar with arthur beckett feats. I'm sure he has some uber illusions. Most of his uber stuff i'd guess are prepped no? I wonder how effective he would be in this forum setting. At .5k distsnce Thor would prolly have the early advantage.

Anyways Mysterio is a glass canon. Few storm buffets and his effectiveness really goes down hill i would think..

Sandman will be a minor problem.
Also how often does he do this tactic u posted? Btw isnt that alternate Sandman?
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
https://i.ibb.co/nCF00TK/roo.png
Thor can drink oceans so not sure how effective that tactic would be.
https://i.imgur.com/bQodXwg.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/vucXM1O.jpg
There's also that bit where he took in enough necro matter to last a lifetime... Infinite lifetimes.
https://i.imgur.com/wmuZV2w.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/2qSmaPF.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/JcqZH7A.jpg

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Mysterio's fools Spiderman, who has some of the greatest danger sensing feats out there, so.....

He fooled Old Man Logan, too.

Kinda-sorta failed with Daredevil, but 1) it still took a whole TPB story arc for Matt to solve his riddles and beat him up, 2) Mysterio was depressed and suicidal at the time... not to mention his brain tumor and lung cancer.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Electro wouldn't do anything...neither would kraven, vulture. But sandman and a proper mysterio could wreck him

He'd beat them all. He can whip up rain and lightning. The rain and wind would blow Sandman apart, and the lightning would strike Mysterio. He's above these guys.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
You want to do a thread using thor senses versus logan/parker/matt?
Im sure they have superior showings on certain senses, but Thor has some really high end stuff... Like wonky high end.

Mysterio has fooled the likes of Dr Strange too.
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11135/111355351/6937424-illusion- %20hides%20his%20essence%20from%20doctor%20strange
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https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11135/111355351/6937423-illusion- %20hides%20his%20essence%20from%20doctor%20strange
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More importantly, he has already fooled Unworthy Thor.

https://i.postimg.cc/pmxnQ6bx/RCO008.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/rdw03RwP/RCO009.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/67b2X675/RCO010.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/YG44qcgN/RCO014.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/r0vDDhCB/RCO024.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/SYCJCWgJ/RCO025.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/t7x1Kj9p/RCO026.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/LnFqRbsf/RCO027.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/xcGXd3kZ/RCO028-w.jpg

Fixed links for ya:

1. https://tinyurl.com/ybfc4ayb

2. https://tinyurl.com/y89292q8

Yeah. People think 'oh, Thor will just zap Mysterio' when actually, he'll only THINK he's summoned lightning.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
You're grossly overselling Thor and are either ignorant of or hand waving away the potential of a mysterio/sandman teamup.

I'm grossly overselling Thor by posting his feats? Lol, oops my bad.

Let me just agree with whatever you say. I wouldn't want to make you feel bad for being misinformed about Thor's capabilities.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I understand, but your scans of his senses were all of Thor with Mjolnir. All I am asking, I guess, is what was UNWORTHY Thor's best.

OP can clarify if he wants.

Mjolnir doesn't grant Thor his senses, why is that relevant? Those are his inherent abilities, so they are relevant.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm grossly overselling Thor by posting his feats? Lol, oops my bad.

Let me just agree with whatever you say. I wouldn't want to make you feel bad for being misinformed about Thor's capabilities.



Mjolnir doesn't grant Thor his senses, why is that relevant? Those are his inherent abilities, so they are relevant. Originally posted by abhilegend
Mysterio has fooled the likes of Dr Strange too.
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11135/111355351/6937424-illusion- %20hides%20his%20essence%20from%20doctor%20strange
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https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11135/111355351/6937423-illusion- %20hides%20his%20essence%20from%20doctor%20strange
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20evil%29.jpg

More importantly, he has already fooled Unworthy Thor.

https://i.postimg.cc/pmxnQ6bx/RCO008.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/rdw03RwP/RCO009.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/67b2X675/RCO010.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/YG44qcgN/RCO014.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/r0vDDhCB/RCO024.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/SYCJCWgJ/RCO025.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/t7x1Kj9p/RCO026.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/LnFqRbsf/RCO027.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/xcGXd3kZ/RCO028-w.jpg

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Fixed links for ya:

1. https://tinyurl.com/ybfc4ayb

2. https://tinyurl.com/y89292q8
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah. People think 'oh, Thor will just zap Mysterio' when actually, he'll only THINK he's summoned lightning.

Dr. Strange was pushing the limits of his illusions and he wasn't even aware they were in a fight. If Thor is buying groceries, and Mysterio is trying to hide from him, that might be one thing.

Thor is an elemental, he can sense a Storm innately. He could fool Thor they were hit by a lighting blast, but how would he fool Thor that he summoned a lightning blast?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
You want to do a thread using thor senses versus logan/parker/matt?

Not even close based on the feats I've seen.

Thor can hear prayers a Universe away, and his teleporation/summoning Storms relies on picturing/sensoring locations in his minds-eye. His senses are far superior to Logan's and Spider-Man unless I missed something?

Obviously, Logan is a much better tracker when it comes to his nose, and Spider-Man has a spider-sense but that's not what we're arguing. We're talking about his innate weather seasons, which are on a far larger scale.

Originally posted by abhilegend


1. Mysterio doesn't get access to an unlimited amount of prep and technology before in a random encounter Thor isn't expecting.

2. I'm not arguing Mysterio cannot make illusions that can deceive Thor visually. Read the conversation and stop moving the goal post.

3. I'm arguing that he has no way to trick Thor that he has summoned a lightning bolt when he hasn't etc.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Dr. Strange was pushing the limits of his illusions and he wasn't even aware they were in a fight. If Thor is buying groceries, and Mysterio is trying to hide from him, that might be one thing.

Thor is an elemental, he can sense a Storm innately. He could fool Thor they were hit by a lighting blast, but how would he fool Thor that he summoned a lightning blast?
You want to match sensory feats from Dr Strange to a retard like Thor? Oh boy. Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
1. Mysterio doesn't get access to an unlimited amount of prep and technology before in a random encounter Thor isn't expecting.

2. I'm not arguing Mysterio cannot make illusions that can deceive Thor visually. Read the conversation and stop moving the goal post.

3. I'm arguing that he has no way to trick Thor that he hasn't summoned a lightning bolt when he hasn't etc.
So in essence Mysterio can't fool Thor when he has already done it and has fooled Dr Strange who is far superior in terms of detecting illusions than Thor.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You want to match sensory feats from Dr Strange to a retard like Thor? Oh boy.
So in essence Mysterio can't fool Thor when he has already done it and has fooled Dr Strange who is far superior in terms of detecting illusions than Thor.

If this strange guy has all this magic, how come he isn't sensing us?

It's close. I can feel him working at the edges of my illusion. And the scary thing is, he's not even trying.

https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11135/111355351/6937424-illusion- %20hides%20his%20essence%20from%20doctor%20strange
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Read the scan. Dr. Strange wasn't even trying. All Mysterio was doing was hiding them from his awareness, and even that was being strained.

This is a battle zone, aka a fight:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t461496.html

Thor knows he's fighting the Sinister Six, he isn't getting spied on while he's grocery shopping.

Also, this has nothing to do with visual illusions. The argument was that Thor can easily clear the field with his weather powers. The counter-argument was that Mysterio can fake the weather attack, which is illogical. It's like tricking Superman into thinking he used heat vision, or Swamp Thing attacked with the Green.

That's not illusions, that's mind control because Thor's an elemental. The weather is an extension of Thor:
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-9490200abaceb9b007b400cb1446b25a

Fooling Thor he used an attack involving weather would involve controlling his mind, not creating an illusion.

AGAIN: Mysterio can, especially with prep, fool Thor with visual illusions like that the SS were hit with lightning when they were not. He cannot trick Thor into thinking he used lightning already when he hasn't. That's called telepathy, aka Maxwell Lord, or Professor Xavier.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
If this strange guy has all this magic, how come he isn't sensing us?

It's close. I can feel him working at the edges of my illusion. And the scary thing is, he's not even trying.

https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11135/111355351/6937424-illusion- %20hides%20his%20essence%20from%20doctor%20strange
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Read the scan. Dr. Strange wasn't even trying. All Mysterio was doing was hiding them from his awareness, and even that was being strained.

But in the end, he couldn't detect the illusion.

https://tinyurl.com/y89292q8

And Dr Strange is far better suited to detect illusions than Thor is.

Fair enough.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Not even close based on the feats I've seen.

Thor can hear prayers a Universe away, and his teleporation/summoning Storms relies on picturing/sensoring locations in his minds-eye. His senses are far superior to Logan's and Spider-Man unless I missed something?

Obviously, Logan is a much better tracker when it comes to his nose, and Spider-Man has a spider-sense but that's not what we're arguing. We're talking about his innate weather seasons, which are on a far larger scale.

Your post is so random..thor can hear prayers. Ok and? How does controlling weather correlate to detecting illusions. But i read the rest of your post and see that you're using high end thor so moving on.

Uggh...
.5km.. What is that, like ober 5 football fields away? Fight starts... What is Mysterio going to do? How effective is he when shiet get real and he has to avoid lightning buffets/storms?

There's literally a bunch of glass canons here. And Mysterio is the glassiest of them all. Well cept for Vulture maybe. That dude old as phukk.

Even if Thor plays with his food, what can they do to put him down?

Odinson starts his battles with lightning buffets/storms now? We talking about the same unworthy Thor here? Must've missed that character arc

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Odinson starts his battles with lightning buffets/storms now? We talking about the same unworthy Thor here? Must've missed that character arc
U did. U missed a lot.
Against multiple enemies..? He does bust out one shot attacks.

Takes out the whole Naglfar Armada(undead gods from previous ragnaroks). Btw just one pantheon of that armada was wrecking the Shi'Ar including the the Imperial Guard.
http://i.imgur.com/gC5lgJ2m.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/u3rOgrom.jpg


One-shots Hela, Black Swan, and Proxima Midnight.
http://i.imgur.com/3WTcRMGm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/SaU2E1qm.jpg


Aside from one axe swing, he goes straight into storm mode alongside Jane.
http://i.imgur.com/mYnYJHbm.jpg

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Uhhh this is retarded and y'all's hate just pours into these Thor threads lol.
.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Mysterio has fooled the likes of Dr Strange too.
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11135/111355351/6937424-illusion- %20hides%20his%20essence%20from%20doctor%20strange
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https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11135/111355351/6937423-illusion- %20hides%20his%20essence%20from%20doctor%20strange
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20evil%29.jpg

More importantly, he has already fooled Unworthy Thor.

https://i.postimg.cc/pmxnQ6bx/RCO008.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/rdw03RwP/RCO009.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/67b2X675/RCO010.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/YG44qcgN/RCO014.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/r0vDDhCB/RCO024.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/SYCJCWgJ/RCO025.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/t7x1Kj9p/RCO026.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/LnFqRbsf/RCO027.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/xcGXd3kZ/RCO028-w.jpg I was searching for those scans on my HDD.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
I was searching for those scans on my HDD.

Both comics are on readcomic, lol.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Both comics are on readcomic, lol. The thing is I forgot where exactly it happened. Certain things could be argued about that (actually really impressive) feat.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Thor can drink oceans so not sure how effective that tactic would be.
https://i.imgur.com/bQodXwg.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/vucXM1O.jpg
There's also that bit where he took in enough necro matter to last a lifetime... Infinite lifetimes.
https://i.imgur.com/wmuZV2w.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/2qSmaPF.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/JcqZH7A.jpg

Oh, I see... yes, it's all very clear to me now...

https://i.ibb.co/pLt0n5P/thorblows.png

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
U did. U missed a lot.
Against multiple enemies..? He does bust out one shot attacks.

Takes out the whole Naglfar Armada(undead gods from previous ragnaroks). Btw just one pantheon of that armada was wrecking the Shi'Ar including the the Imperial Guard.
http://i.imgur.com/gC5lgJ2m.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/u3rOgrom.jpg


One-shots Hela, Black Swan, and Proxima Midnight.
http://i.imgur.com/3WTcRMGm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/SaU2E1qm.jpg


Aside from one axe swing, he goes straight into storm mode alongside Jane.
http://i.imgur.com/mYnYJHbm.jpg

Cant see the first two scans...issue #?

The others he was aided by U Mjolnir and Jane...i wouldn't use those in a debate

Thor should win here if he doesn't fight like an idiot

Fighting like an idiot is all Thor is capable of doing, though.

Thor should win easily.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Cant see the first two scans...issue #?

The others he was aided by U Mjolnir and Jane...i wouldn't use those in a debate

That was his axe, not Ultimate Mjolnir.

I forgot about that feat. Thor and Jane were using their weather powers to beat back the Phoenix in the same comic where it was a Universal entity.

1% of that feat is more impressive than anything the Sinister Six have ever done combined unless I missed Venom beating up Galactus or something.

Every single weather feat Jane accomplished with the MS, from turning back a thrown Star going Supernova, to beating back the Phoenix, to controlling and throwing the Red Spot at Odin (A super storm big enough to fit 2-3 Earth sizes planets inside) was driven by the MS. Which Thor proves he could control, and channel.

Even with the MS retcon, Thor even at his lowest point ever, has equal weather powers as one of the most OP/writer wanked characters in comic history.

Thor was a depressed bum to justify Jane existing, but if I made an Unworthy Thor respect thread, his power feats would be greater than 99.999% of characters. The power levels in his own comic are so high, this is technically a spite thread

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Cant see the first two scans...issue #?

The others he was aided by U Mjolnir and Jane...i wouldn't use those in a debate
Here..
http://i.imgur.com/sYcCZGUm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/BYfoFeJm.jpg


Prove it was Ult Mjolnir.
The scene with Jane is him combining his storm with hers.
Even then, you asked if for instances where he starts with lightning and storms from the get. Whether it was U Mjolnir or Jane alone using storm powers is irrelevant to the question you originally posed. He essentially opened with lighting and storm in these battles. You are basically moving the goalpost here.

Here so you can stop questioning whether he starts battles via storm.
He joins earth's heroes via stormblitz. He literally opens his assault with lightning, storms, tornadoes, etc.

http://i.imgur.com/Zw8C3vtm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/IoI4oYFm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/gkhRW5qm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/cwg9bkom.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/14Zjyn5m.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/o7DK2aCm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/RhVX7cUm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/t54y51Tm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/Q4Moiw0m.jpg

Bump.

The ax could act as a compass if its blessed. A warrior could walk the walk with it and defeat the enemy.