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His niece in her new book claims the President himself was a victim of child abuse... If true it might explain a lot. Important topic? Also if true he has my sympathy but it does not exonerate him from his actions.

Mary Trump's book to be published early amid 'extraordinary interest'

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/06/mary-trump-book-release-date-early-donald-trump?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy

Normally feminists and those who support survivors of sexual abuse would feel it very very wrong for one person to publicly reveal that another person was sexually abused without their consent.

The argument would be that it's up to them to tell their story.

I wonder if we will see that applied here.

This may be the one Trump book I'll read; and yes, it would explain a lot. I hope it's more interesting than her brother's Art of the Deal. I found that disappointing.

I'll also be keeping in mind Mary Trump's motivations.

If he truly did suffer sexual abuse as a child I can't think of any other reason for her to reveal it publicly besides cruelty.

Okay your title of this thread implies it was sexual abuse.

Seems like it was just neglect.

Another TDS thread

@Insane Titan (since I'm unable to quote you for w/e reason):
Abuse is often passed on because the trauma is not 'digested', so it has to be expressed some way.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
im finishing Bolton tonight not sure i can't do another trump book straight away. The Bolton book is so cringey Bolton's book tempts me. But, like all the Trump books already written, when I hear the authors talk about them, about Trump, my reaction has always been, So what else is new?

You're unable to quote him because of the fancy apostrophes.

This is an old site, it can only handle these:

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Originally posted by Mindship
@Insane Titan (since I'm unable to quote you for w/e reason):
Abuse is often passed on because the trauma is not 'digested', so it has to be expressed some way.

Bolton's book tempts me. But, like all the Trump books already written, when I hear the authors talk about them, about Trump, my reaction has always been, So what else is new?

At this point I don't know why anyone buys books about Trump.

Not to say I don't understand the curiosity, but come on now. We all know the most salacious tidbits will be covered in the media lol. You don't have to buy it.

Originally posted by Surtur
At this point I don't know why anyone buys books about Trump.

Not to say I don't understand the curiosity, but come on now. We all know the most salacious tidbits will be covered in the media lol. You don't have to buy it. Pretty much. But then, some like the details.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You're unable to quote him because of the fancy apostrophes.

This is an old site, it can only handle these:

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Originally posted by Surtur
Normally feminists and those who support survivors of sexual abuse would feel it very very wrong for one person to publicly reveal that another person was sexually abused without their consent.

The argument would be that it's up to them to tell their story.

I wonder if we will see that applied here.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Another TDS thread


Pretty much, yup.

An Amazon blurb for the book says the author will set out how her uncle "became the man who now threatens the world's health, economic security and social fabric".

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
An Amazon blurb for the book says the author will set out how her uncle "became the man who now threatens the world's health, economic security and social fabric". Are you going to address the fact that you didn't read the article you posted, and that no sexual abuse is mentioned, making the very title of this thread bunk?

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
An Amazon blurb for the book says the author will set out how her uncle "became the man who now threatens the world's health, economic security and social fabric".

They really love granting Trump more power than he actually has.

It gets really interesting.

Donald Trump's behavior was shaped by his 'sociopath' father, niece writes in bombshell book

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/07/donald-trump-abuse-father-niece-mary-book?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy

Originally posted by Scribble
Are you going to address the fact that you didn't read the article you posted, and that no sexual abuse is mentioned, making the very title of this thread bunk?

You seem trigged, chill, we moved on days ago from the title.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
An Amazon blurb for the book says the author will set out how her uncle "became the man who now threatens the world's health, economic security and social fabric". back to topic.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
You seem trigged, chill, we moved on days ago from the title. Nah, Paxman wasn't 'triggered', he just asked the same question until he got an answer. You haven't acknowledged your mistake yet, so I'm going to ask you again:

Are you going to address the fact that you didn't read the article you posted, and that no sexual abuse is mentioned, making the very title of this thread bunk?

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
back to topic. The topic is "Was Trump paedoed himself?"

So, I'll ask you: was Trump sexually abused as a child, as the topic asks?

Originally posted by Scribble
Nah, Paxman wasn't 'triggered', he just asked the same question until he got an answer. You haven't acknowledged your mistake yet, so I'm going to ask you again:

Are you going to address the fact that you didn't read the article you posted, and that no sexual abuse is mentioned, making the very title of this thread bunk?

The topic is "Was Trump paedoed himself?"

So, I'll ask you: was Trump sexually abused as a child, as the topic asks? Calm down and move on. The topic has moved forward.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Calm down and move on. The topic has moved forward. Was Trump sexually assaulted as a kid? Stay on topic.

Um, I get you want to make the thread about me. But we have moved on Surt mentioned emotional abuse and neglect as did I. This is a discussion about Trumps issues. Move on.

Oh, and what evidence has Mary provided to back up the variety of claims she makes in her book?

I know the usual suspects will not just be taking her at her word, not on my watch

Trumps personality is like a lot of the rich elites.

The only difference is they have filters and he doesn't.

No way he's somehow more of a narcissist then, say, Pelosi or Clinton. They just hide it better, but oh lawdy what a fly on the wall has probably heard these people say in private...

Originally posted by Surtur
Trump needs to learn to pace himself.

I thought he gave a pretty good 4th of July speech. But then less than 48 hours later he starts talking about Nascar and bubba wallace. Pretty much giving people all the excuse they need to ignore the speech and focus on the stupid noose bullshit. I think it's too late for that, he's old and likely way too stuck in his ways. But for an older guy, he could be a lot worse. He could be babbling about liking having kids jump on his lap and stroke his hairy legs that turn blonde in the sun.

You are right about that main issue, though: as President, he needs to learn to step back from every single little issue or meme that crops up. It's too divisive and gives his enemies unnecessary ammunition. He should just focus on the big picture stuff, for the most part, instead of tweeting all over the place.

I know this is off-topic, but what masters did you do, Whirly? I'm aiming to start mine part-time next year.

Originally posted by Scribble
I know this is off-topic, but what masters did you do, Whirly? I'm aiming to start mine part-time next year. ive got two and a third in the works, one is related to my fist degree which was biology orientated, the other two are to do with bussiness. I also have two other level seven business qualifications which are internationally recognised and underwritten by the correct UK associations and government departments.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
ive got two and a third in the works, one is related to my fist degree which was biology orientated, the other two are to do with bussiness. A good combo! Good luck with your current one. I'm hoping to do one in English lit. I know, useless liberal arts and all that, but I'm aiming to be a private tutor, so it'll come in useful in the short term, and I can look at other stuff long-term.

Originally posted by Scribble
A good combo! Good luck with your current one. I'm hoping to do one in English lit. I know, useless liberal arts and all that, but I'm aiming to be a private tutor, so it'll come in useful in the short term, and I can look at other stuff long-term. Enjoy, mine are from Goldsmiths, Nottingham and Liverpool my First degree is from Kings. Tbh, I always put Kings College on everything lol.

I started doing a Doctorate at Southbank... it was so boring. This is 30+ years ago.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Enjoy, mine are from Goldsmiths, Nottingham and Liverpool my First degree is from Kings. Tbh, I always put Kings College on everything lol. Nice, I'm applying to Birkbeck UCL, it seems to have a really good rep for the humanities. Not to mention T. S. Eliot taught there, and no less than Slavoj Zizek is the International Director of the humanities dept, haha.

Originally posted by Scribble
Nice, I'm applying to Birkbeck UCL, it seems to have a really good rep for the humanities. Not to mention T. S. Eliot went there, and no less than Slavoj Zizek is the International Director of the humanities dept, haha. I've heard of Birkbeck clearly. I couldn't tell you a thing about it.

Well, hopefully it's good! They do night classes, which is how I'll be doing my masters alongside my job

Originally posted by Scribble
Well, hopefully it's good! They do night classes, which is how I'll be doing my masters alongside my job they don't have a distance learning masters? I mean most don't involve live lectures. You log onto Canvas do the reading and complete the assignments and get a number of face to face (zoom) chats with the tutor which are always pointless. You usually need a sponsor to check and sign off your end. As you are in a school that should be easy as Doctors, Engineers, Lawyers and Teachers are the required type. I have my head of HR do it for me.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
tbh, i would agree if I was doing something im interested in with business shit it's so job related you usually know it all anyway, just not what it's officially called or the textbook logic behind it. My passion is Archaelogy, when I retire I intend on doing an undergraduate degree in it. My brother suggests I just want to sit in holes in the ground with teenage girls. He might be right. That makes sense, yeah. Haha, you should totally give archeology another go later on, why not y'know? You definitely seem like the 'seize the day' type. When are you thinking of retiring?

Originally posted by Scribble
That makes sense, yeah. Haha, you should totally give archeology another go later on, why not y'know? You definitely seem like the 'seize the day' type. When are you thinking of retiring? i have a young daughter so looks like a long time. Haha, maybe one day I'll retire.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
My brother suggests I just want to sit in holes in the ground with teenage girls. He might be right.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I know... he honestly said that and my eldest son who is almost 34 agreed.

....Ok Now I am really afraid to GOOGLE the word Paedeod.

Book by Donald Trump's niece sells nearly 1m copies on its first day

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/16/donald-trump-niece-book-mary-sells-nearly-million?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy

Listened to the book. Once again Whirly was wrong as usual then again what new. He just makes stuff up or believes anything he reads and ads his own bullshit narrative.

How embarrassing

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/15/politics/mary-trump-donald-trump-resign/index.html

His own neice calls for him to resign... ouch.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Listened to the book. Once again Whirly was wrong as usual then again what new. He just makes stuff up or believes anything he reads and ads his own bullshit narrative.

How embarrassing

No

Whirly can you quote the part in the book that supports your ridiculous accusations?

Uh huh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfW_V-RLqrA&list=PLcDdX4b6TCB2yUBiF7ep8gFsTYXZsNp3F&index=374

Here's Trump and Epstein. Who knows?

TDS

Odd thread. Don't wanna read.

Regarding the title, this sounds more like your fantasy as oppose to something that really happened Putinbot.

Originally posted by Surtur
Normally feminists and those who support survivors of sexual abuse would feel it very very wrong for one person to publicly reveal that another person was sexually abused without their consent.

The argument would be that it's up to them to tell their story.

I wonder if we will see that applied here.

There are no normal feminists, they're all insane.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Trump shows many signs of varied abuse. Including but not limited to his need for attention, inability to tie his tie the right length or comb his hair, lack of empathy, sexual misconduct etc. etc...

Trumps behaviour last night showed no boundaries, something adult abused often have.

^ a man who speaks from experience

No wonder Whirly acts just like Trump

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
No wonder Whirly acts just like Trump ?

Let's hear what Republican Senator from Nebraska, Ben Sasse thinks:

pMEZzNZgDZQ

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Let's hear what Republican Senator from Nebraska, Ben Sasse thinks:

pMEZzNZgDZQ He said if they lose the senate, they're going to have a Venezuela style country in 10 years.

I've heard intelligent people who understand the difference between a Nordic model and Venezuela.

I mean, most of the problems in South America has been from USA imperialism, not socialised medicine.

Originally posted by Blakemore
He said if they lose the senate, they're going to have a Venezuela style country in 10 years.

I've heard intelligent people who understand the difference between a Nordic model and Venezuela.

I mean, most of the problems in South America has been from USA imperialism, not socialised medicine.

Yeah we know you guys love to point to the countries that contain mostly white people when you talk about this stuff. I guess I would too if the other option was utter shitholes. The cherry picking makes sense and I like the intelligent people jab, cuz obviously now anyone who disagees with you must be stupid. Nice try my friend

Originally posted by Surtur
Yeah we know you guys love to point to the countries that contain mostly white people when you talk about this stuff. I guess I would too if the other option was utter shitholes. The cherry picking makes sense and I like the intelligent people jab, cuz obviously now anyone who disagees with you must be stupid. Nice try my friend Chile, Argentina, Uruguay, Brazil, Colombia and Venezuela all have white populations...in fact, I think almost every South American country has a large proportion of white people, yet experienced violent revolutions and financial difficulty due to debt and/or famine; Nordic countries have non-white populations too, although I see your angle here.

Don't give me spin.

Originally posted by Blakemore
Chile, Argentina, Uruguay, Brazil, Colombia and Venezuela all have white populations...in fact, I think almost every South American country has a large proportion of white people, yet experienced violent revolutions and financial difficulty due to debt and/or famine; Nordic countries have non-white populations too, although I see your angle here.

Don't give me spin.

You spin as you tell others not to spin. I don't think you want to compare white populations, but I never said the Nordics only have whites, just the vast majority.

I too would cherry pick the best and ignore the worst.

Capitalism is better than Socialism though, it always will be. I'm not saying you said otherwise, I just felt like stating this fact.

A combination of the two is better than either one.

Maybe,but if we had to pick one its capitalism

True, but it is nice to know what would come out on top if we did

Originally posted by BackFire
A combination of the two is better than either one. That's what it's like in Iceland.

Ironically both will end up with the same problems. The people at the top siphon everything they can for themselves and leave those below them with very little, just through different methods. The only reason pure capitalism is a little better is because it would take a little longer to fail and collapse than pure socialism.

Originally posted by BackFire
Ironically both will end up with the same problems. The people at the top siphon everything they can for themselves and leave those below them with very little, just through different methods. The only reason pure capitalism is a little better is because it would take a little longer to fail and collapse than pure socialism. Maybe there's a third way? Hmmmmm? Who was it who said that?

Originally posted by Blakemore
That's what it's like in Iceland.

Greenland is full of ice, and Iceland is very nice.

Originally posted by Surtur
Maybe,but if we had to pick one its capitalism

Why focus solely on one? They are symbiotic and feed off each other. In particular our current system has large flaws because we've allowed capitalism to dictate governance that is currently benefiting the smallest amount of ppl at the top.

I agree we shouldn't. But for me when they cite nordic countries it comes off as focusing on one.

They are best combined. Just like the powers of the planeteers

Originally posted by Surtur
I agree we shouldn't. But for me when they cite nordic countries it comes off as focusing on one.

They are best combined. Just like the powers of the planeteers

They are also a relatively small homogenous population.

I also did laugh at Denmark telling Bernie to stop name dropping them

Originally posted by snowdragon
Why focus solely on one? They are symbiotic and feed off each other. In particular our current system has large flaws because we've allowed capitalism to dictate governance that is currently benefiting the smallest amount of ppl at the top. I should read my Noam Chomsky book. It was just a christmas present and I don't really like books as I'm so used to reading off a screen.