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Common sense would suggest that no, they can't.

Who are Clinton, Johnson and Obama?

Those 3 didn't Primarily want to LEAD the Country.. They wanted to CHANGE it into something Entirely Different. The Only way they can Change is to First Destroy.

Yes, leading a revolution is not leadership.

Not when The Revolution is for All The Wrong Reasons.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
Not when The Revolution is for All The Wrong Reasons. I'll bite, what would Fly's correct reasons for leading a revolution be.

I remember all that right wing talk of how great America was under Obama.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
I remember all that right wing talk of how great America was under Obama.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
I remember all that right wing talk of how great America was under Obama.

He truly achieved a lot:

https://i.imgur.com/SNOaT7U.jpg

Originally posted by Surtur
He truly achieved a lot:

https://i.imgur.com/SNOaT7U.jpg

.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
I remember all that right wing talk of how great America was under Obama.

You misunderstand, as usual. America was great despite Obama being president.

America has always been great regardless of who the president was because the country is so much more than who its leader is. Can't believe this has to be explained to a grown adult but, whatever.

America has always been great, it just got greater under Trump.

So if it was great, why did it have to be made great again?

Originally posted by Surtur
He truly achieved a lot:

https://i.imgur.com/SNOaT7U.jpg

Clearly you hated your country.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Clearly you hated your country. zing!

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
So if it was great, why did it have to be made great again?

Same reason Goku had to go Super Saiyan.

war is peace
freedom is slavery
soldiers are terrorists, oh wait, that's not ironic.

Breaking News: Apathy on the rise, and nobody cares

Meh

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Originally posted by Surtur
He truly achieved a lot:

https://i.imgur.com/SNOaT7U.jpg

This would be hilarious if it wasn't painfully sad.



Did Trump keep Obama's programs running? Remember when we talked about Trump continuing Obama's war stuff and Trump was on pace to beat Obama's murder numbers?


Did that still hold true or did Trump pull his head out and stop murdering brown kids?

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
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Originally posted by dadudemon
This would be hilarious if it wasn't painfully sad.

Did Trump keep Obama's programs running? Remember when we talked about Trump continuing Obama's war stuff and Trump was on pace to beat Obama's murder numbers?

Did that still hold true or did Trump pull his head out and stop murdering brown kids?
I've seen little evidence that Trump has stopped, which makes the faux concern over Obama-era war crimes from certain folks on the right hilarious.

Maybe someday America will wake up, kick most of the Democrats and Republicans out on their asses, and start electing people who aren't war profiteering, corporate slaves. Create your own never ending supply of fodder enemies through proxy wars with Russia, suck off arms manufacturing and construction companies by letting them make their cash, then profit as they suck you off politically and financially. It's a big ol' suck off bonanza!

As a bonus, brainwash folks like Star with messages of identity politics and not enough people will question you to matter! How will they change things when they're too busy arguing which party of war criminals has the worst war criminals! What are a couple of schmoes on an internet forum? Send our soldiers to die to buy a yacht! Kill brown kids to secure your new vacation home! Tell people it's unpatriotic to criticize wars for financial gain!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAAHAH

It's kinda funny if you take a cosmic perspective. Nothing really matters in the end I guess.

Originally posted by StyleTime
I've seen little evidence that Trump has stopped, which makes the faux concern over Obama-era war crimes from certain folks on the right hilarious.

Maybe someday America will wake up, kick most of the Democrats and Republicans out on their asses, and start electing people who aren't war profiteering, corporate slaves. Create your own never ending supply of fodder enemies through proxy wars with Russia, suck off arms manufacturing and construction companies by letting them make their cash, then profit as they suck you off politically and financially. It's a big ol' suck off bonanza!

As a bonus, brainwash folks like Star with messages of identity politics and not enough people will question you to matter! How will they change things when they're too busy arguing which party of war criminals has the worst war criminals! What are a couple of schmoes on an internet forum? Send our soldiers to die to buy a yacht! Kill brown kids to secure your new vacation home! Tell people it's unpatriotic to criticize wars for financial gain!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAAHAH

It's kinda funny if you take a cosmic perspective. Nothing really matters in the end I guess.

I'm unsure how Christian, especially the self-righteous and judgmental Evangelical Christians, can support a policy of murdering the innocents.

It's a pretty terrible thing to murder an innocent child in Christianity. Yet, they still support their Democratic and Republican Warlords. Biden, Obama, the Clintons, Trump - there's no difference. They are all warmongering murderers. Nothing else matters as that should be the most important thing we care about - whether or not our leaders support the continued murder of innocents.

Biden's plan was to have more Fed control in elections...... Sanders opposed it, Trump opposed it, even Obama opposed it.....

Of mainstream voters and politicians no one really hates the United States. They hate aspects of it and that often culminates into an strong rejection when the "opposing party" is in power. You can see that in Republicans under Obama just as much as Democrats under Trump or Bush.

Have you been living under a rock for years? The leftist extremists hate America. Don't see how you can argue otherwise. Also, the left-wing media hates America.. President Trump gave what was probably his best speech on July 3rd at Mount Rushmore praising the four men depicted on the mount and everyone in the left-leaning media called it "dark" and "divisive" lol.

If you don't think the far left hates America then you are living in an alternate reality. They are constantly trashing the country, its founders, and the flag. FFS, they are tearing down statues of Thomas Jefferson.


They also bash capitalism every chance they get while praising shitty commie systems like Marxism. Capitalism is as much a part of America as the Constitution is.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Have you been living under a rock for years? The leftist extremists hate America. Don't see how you can argue otherwise. Also, the left-wing media hates America.. President Trump gave what was probably his best speech on July 3rd at Mount Rushmore praising the four men depicted on the mount and everyone in the left-leaning media called it "dark" and "divisive" lol.

If you don't think the far left hates America then you are living in an alternate reality. They are constantly trashing the country, its founders, and the flag. FFS, they are tearing down statues of Thomas Jefferson.


They also bash capitalism every chance they get while praising shitty commie systems like Marxism. Capitalism is as much a part of America as the Constitution is. durwank

There are also several members on this forum who hate America as well.

And no, I'm not talking about foreigners like pooty/whirly who hate it because he's clearly jealous that it's better than his country; there are actual Americans on this forum who hate their own country.... or at least they appear to judging by all of their "America is evil" posts.


I won't mention them by name but they know who they are.

Originally posted by Artol
Of mainstream voters and politicians no one really hates the United States. They hate aspects of it and that often culminates into an strong rejection when the "opposing party" is in power. You can see that in Republicans under Obama just as much as Democrats under Trump or Bush.

At one point I might have agreed, but the masks have slipped.

I'm honestly struggling to think of any 1st world countries that have such...self loathing among their population compared to what we see here in the USA.

Some loathe themselves not just for being American, but for being white too.

There is a pervasive self hatred here that I don't think we see at the same level in any other first world countries.

Originally posted by Surtur
At one point I might have agreed, but the masks have slipped.

I'm honestly struggling to think of any 1st world countries that have such...self loathing among their population compared to what we see here in the USA. Agreed on the first point, but for the second all I can say is, Bruh: Sweden.

Originally posted by Scribble
Agreed on the first point, but for the second all I can say is, Bruh: Sweden.

Ah yeah I'm sure they suffer from tons of white guilt.

But is there also a hatred of their own country? Are they out getting on their knees and apologizing to black people and washing their feet? Cuz that happened here.

Originally posted by Surtur
Ah yeah I'm sure they suffer from tons of white guilt.

But is there also a hatred of their own country? Are they out getting on their knees and apologizing to black people and washing their feet? Cuz that happened here. Yeah, that stuff is pretty bizarre and pathetic. But what they've let happen to Sweden is way worse than USA... maybe that's because of the government in charge, but the people voted them in repeatedly, so... they seem to like turning their cities into ultra-violent ME ghettos for no reason.

Originally posted by Surtur
Some loathe themselves not just for being American, but for being white too.

There is a pervasive self hatred here that I don't think we see at the same level in any other first world countries. Disagree, you are confusing hating themselves/America, with a distaste for the far right rhetoric many here follow and trump empowers and embodies

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Disagree, you are confusing hating themselves/America, with a distaste for the far right rhetoric many here follow and trump empowers and embodies

It's far more complicated then that. At least in the USA where the riots occured they were majority democrat controlled cities. Many of the people in power are minority-majority leaders, they set the tone. They create the laws and hire and train their local law enforcement.

Perhaps one of the best examples of this was in Seattle with the CHOP and the mayor gave them free reign, violence and looting, destruction of property all while the far left set the tone and the rules in their safe space.

Originally posted by snowdragon
It's far more complicated then that. At least in the USA where the riots occured they were majority democrat controlled cities. Many of the people in power are minority-majority leaders, they set the tone. They create the laws and hire and train their local law enforcement.

Perhaps one of the best examples of this was in Seattle with the CHOP and the mayor gave them free reign, violence and looting, destruction of property all while the far left set the tone and the rules in their safe space. You see i have many Americans who work for me, all say the same thing, that they hate Trump and the right. A very close friend from Philly, who is still in KSA is disgusted with the right-wing rhetoric of the last four years and he is an ex marine officer. Lovely bloke. I actually don't discuss US politics with any of them. I just listen. Like they do when I bang on about the UK.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
You see i have many Americans who work for me, all say the same thing, that they hate Trump and the right. A very close friend from Philly, who is still in KSA is disgusted with the right-wing rhetoric of the last four years and he is an ex marine officer. Lovely bloke. I actually don't discuss US politics with any of them. I just listen. Like they do when I bang on about the UK.

You can hate all the right wing rhetoric you want but when we take a closer look at the areas of violence and rioting it wasn't in right wing usa. It was in places controlled by the left who set their own narratives and tones with very little right wing in said areas.

The premise makes no sense, somone in Texas says something which incites violence in Seattle? So destroy where you live even though that texas mssg won't impact you, it's insanity driven by our media. If you spend your time hating on the right how can ppl on the left work to create real lasting change to make their communities better.

Noam Chomsky said it best:

Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media is a 1988 book by Edward S. Herman and Noam Chomsky, in which the authors propose that the mass communication media of the U.S. "are effective and powerful ideological institutions that carry out a system-supportive propaganda function, by reliance on market forces, internalized assumptions, and self-censorship, and without overt coercion", by means of the propaganda model of communication

Then they still use techniques that Edward Bernays used from the early to mid 1900's for propogandizing.

Originally posted by snowdragon
You can hate all the right wing rhetoric you want but when we take a closer look at the areas of violence and rioting it wasn't in right wing usa. It was in places controlled by the left who set their own narratives and tones with very little right wing in said areas.

The premise makes no sense, somone in Texas says something which incites violence in Seattle? So destroy where you live even though that texas mssg won't impact you, it's insanity driven by our media. If you spend your time hating on the right how can ppl on the left work to create real lasting change to make their communities better. the reason it was leftwing controlled is because they have a voice there.

Originally posted by Scribble
Yeah, that stuff is pretty bizarre and pathetic. But what they've let happen to Sweden is way worse than USA... maybe that's because of the government in charge, but the people voted them in repeatedly, so... they seem to like turning their cities into ultra-violent ME ghettos for no reason.


Yeah, I almost feel sorry for swedish natives... ALMOST. The truth is they brought it upon themselves. You reap what you sow as the book of Galatians tells us.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Yeah, I almost feel sorry for swedish natives... ALMOST. The truth is they brought it upon themselves. You reap what you sow as the book of Galatians tells us. Feel bad for the ones who see what's happening and have no power to change it.

I have Swedish heritage so it makes me particularly sad.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I'm unsure how Christian, especially the self-righteous and judgmental Evangelical Christians, can support a policy of murdering the innocents.

It's a pretty terrible thing to murder an innocent child in Christianity. Yet, they still support their Democratic and Republican Warlords. Biden, Obama, the Clintons, Trump - there's no difference. They are all warmongering murderers. Nothing else matters as that should be the most important thing we care about - whether or not our leaders support the continued murder of innocents.


Not even just the presidents. It's one of the strangest things in the universe that the Westboro Baptist Church doesn't believe in physical violence, yet some of our elected officials goes "LOL."

Even if we only include indirect support, a sizable chunk of our Congress and Cabinet is like "Lockheed Martin lobbied to keep selling PGM's to Saudi Arabia. Never mind that we confirmed them using those to bomb Yemeni funeral homes and open air markets, often killing only civilians. My 4th home needs renovations and I barely know where Yemen is."

Obama administration banned them, but kept selling other weapons to basically the same effect, and refueled Saudi bombers twice a day. Then Trump repeals the ban anyway. I guess I should applaud him for being honest and upfront about endorsing crimes against humanity.
Originally posted by Artol
Of mainstream voters and politicians no one really hates the United States. They hate aspects of it and that often culminates into an strong rejection when the "opposing party" is in power. You can see that in Republicans under Obama just as much as Democrats under Trump or Bush.

Exactly.

Trying to fix flaws in a system isn't hating the country. Trying to improve your home is a good thing.

Well that's an easy question, can the right?

They can lead a shithole that doesn't account for anything but money, which doesn't account for anything passed around free trade.

We need to get rid of free trade, make it mandatory to let someone know when a mother is expecting which will give 12 months to find an independent home for the child regardless of whether it plays cat and mouse with the job market which as I explained before is ridiculous.

this is a dumb thread

Nah, it isn't. You're just a dumb individual... and a troll.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Disagree, you are confusing hating themselves/America, with a distaste for the far right rhetoric many here follow and trump empowers and embodies


They are confusing that intentionally.

Lord is basically accusing anyone of not supporting Trump as hating America.

So yeah blatant troll thread.

Originally posted by Surtur
He truly achieved a lot:

https://i.imgur.com/SNOaT7U.jpg

Obama did love his drones.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Nah, it isn't. You're just a dumb individual... and a troll. you're the dumbest one! kent hovind? you are really dumb. He has as much science as his finger nail. He is a dickhead like you.

Originally posted by StyleTime


Not even just the presidents. It's one of the strangest things in the universe that the Westboro Baptist Church doesn't believe in physical violence, yet some of our elected officials goes "LOL."

Even if we only include indirect support, a sizable chunk of our Congress and Cabinet is like "Lockheed Martin lobbied to keep selling PGM's to Saudi Arabia. Never mind that we confirmed them using those to bomb Yemeni funeral homes and open air markets, often killing only civilians. My 4th home needs renovations and I barely know where Yemen is."

Obama administration banned them, but kept selling other weapons to basically the same effect, and refueled Saudi bombers twice a day. Then Trump repeals the ban anyway. I guess I should applaud him for being honest and upfront about endorsing crimes against humanity.


Exactly.

Trying to fix flaws in a system isn't hating the country. Trying to improve your home is a good thing.


Dude, they hate the country , that is a fact. Quit trying to pathetically spin it as "oh they are just trying to fix the country." It's obvious that neither you nor Artol watched the video in the llink I posted

There is nothing wrong with America so there is nothing to fix. The United States is the greatest country in the history of the world. Yep, I said it.. because it's the truth.

Tearing down statues is not "fixing the country". Calling all white people inerently racist is not fixing the country. Repeatedly bashing the founders is not fixing g the country. Disrespecting the flag by kneeling at football games is not fixing the country. Cancel Culture is not fixing the country.

I could go on and on and on and on. None of those things are fixing the country, they're merely dividing it. People like you are so f***ing pathetic. If you hate America (as u clearly do) then move, dipshit. We have two countries right next to us you could easily move to.


Your shitty attitude towards your own damn country just proves that the left hates America because you sure aren't on the right with that "there are so many things wrong with America! It needs fixing!" attitude.

Again, if you think there are other better countries our there then move your sorry ass to them rather than trying to "fix" something that isn't even broken.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
They are confusing that intentionally.

Lord is basically accusing anyone of not supporting Trump as hating America.

So yeah blatant troll thread.


Nah, you're just a jackass. Hey dumbass, this anti-America hatred was going on for years long before Trump became president so pull yo head out of yo ass, k? Kids are literally taught in school to hate their own country. It has nothing to do with Trump, ya f***ing moron.

You're not even American. You're ignorant, as most left-wing foreign pieces of dog shit who hate America are.

Oh, and pooty/whirly makes about a half-dozen troll threads a day and yet hypocrites line DT don't call him out on it.

Only difference is, the premise of this thread is actually true unlike 98% of what pooty/whirly posts.

Originally posted by AntiArab
Well that's an easy question, can the right?

They can lead a shithole that doesn't account for anything but money, which doesn't account for anything passed around free trade.

We need to get rid of free trade, make it mandatory to let someone know when a mother is expecting which will give 12 months to find an independent home for the child regardless of whether it plays cat and mouse with the job market which as I explained before is ridiculous.


Of course it's an easy question because the answer is so obvious. The answer is no, they can't lead it.


Oh, and getting rid of the free market is one of the stupidest ideas I've ever heard. You must be a Marxist piece of shit.

Eh, anyway.... so sorry I triggered so many snowflakes like DT with this thread. I had forgotten how fragile the fee fees of so many of you leftists are who can't handle the truth. My bad.

5 posts in a row.

Someone's particularly triggered today.

The US seems to exist in its own weird political ideological sphere. I feel like the modern DNC would largely be a center right party anywhere else in the Western/developed world. Yet our population is so dumbed down that entire segments of the population readily believed Obama was a socialist (he wasn't), and that aberrations like Sanders are part of some pipe dream Communist revolution. The "Left" by and large is mainly relegated to college school campuses, professionals, and grass roots organizations like BLM, Occupy wall st, i,e minority positions dedicated to grass roots change. I never got that its in tune with any major voting party. A true Leftist movement doesn't really exist in the United States IMO.

eThabosRanger or wtevr is a big dummy. Trump will lose and we'll have president Biden.

Originally posted by Blakemore
this is a dumb thread

It's a lot less dumb than any of the threads about nazis, incels, white supremacists, etc.

Originally posted by carthage
The US seems to exist in its own weird political ideological sphere. I feel like the modern DNC would largely be a center right party anywhere else in the Western/developed world. Yet our population is so dumbed down that entire segments of the population readily believed Obama was a socialist (he wasn't), and that aberrations like Sanders are part of some pipe dream Communist revolution. The "Left" by and large is mainly relegated to college school campuses, professionals, and grass roots organizations like BLM, Occupy wall st, i,e minority positions dedicated to grass roots change. I never got that its in tune with any major voting party. A true Leftist movement doesn't really exist in the United States IMO.

Not that I fully agree with everything you've said, but kudos on having the only thought provoking and engaging post in this dumb thread.

Originally posted by Surtur
It's a lot less dumb than any of the threads about nazis, incels, white supremacists, etc. triggedy? But why?

Originally posted by Surtur
It's a lot less dumb than any of the threads about nazis, incels, white supremacists, etc.

.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Dude, they hate the country , that is a fact. Quit trying to pathetically spin it as "oh they are just trying to fix the country." It's obvious that neither you nor Artol watched the video in the llink I posted

There is nothing wrong with America so there is nothing to fix. The United States is the greatest country in the history of the world. Yep, I said it.. because it's the truth.

Tearing down statues is not "fixing the country". Calling all white people inerently racist is not fixing the country. Repeatedly bashing the founders is not fixing g the country. Disrespecting the flag by kneeling at football games is not fixing the country. Cancel Culture is not fixing the country.

I could go on and on and on and on. None of those things are fixing the country, they're merely dividing it. People like you are so f***ing pathetic. If you hate America (as u clearly do) then move, dipshit. We have two countries right next to us you could easily move to.

Your shitty attitude towards your own damn country just proves that the left hates America because you sure aren't on the right with th "there are so many things wrong with America! It needs fixing!" attitude.

Again, if you think there are other better countries our there then move your sorry ass to them rather than trying to "fix" something that isn't even broken.
Well, no. Again, you're confusing disagreeing with you for hating the country.

You actively want to bar Americans from serving in the military because of their sexual orientation or gender identity. While that's ****ed up, I don't think you hate the country. I think you're misguided though.
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
There is nothing wrong with America so there is nothing to fix.

Despite our differences I do try and engage with you, but you make it difficult to have a sensible conversation sometimes. If you're right wing and love Trump, fine. But you take this act (I hope it's an act) to an outrageous degree well beyond any other poster here.

Do you genuinely believe America has no problems?

Originally posted by StyleTime
Well, no. Again, you're confusing disagreeing with you for hating the country.

You actively want to bar Americans from serving in the military because of their sexual orientation or gender identity. While that's ****ed up, I don't think you hate the country. I think you're misguided though.

Despite our differences I do try and engage with you, but you make it difficult to have a sensible conversation sometimes. If you're right wing and love Trump, fine. But you take this act (I hope it's an act) to an outrageous degree well beyond any other poster here.

Do you genuinely believe America has no problems? Good Post

Roger Stone is just distraction politics from all the **** ups in his leadership. Hopeless fool.

Pooty still seems triggered by this thread lol.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Pooty still seems triggered by this thread lol. durwank

Originally posted by StyleTime
Well, no. Again, you're confusing disagreeing with you for hating the country.

You actively want to bar Americans from serving in the military because of their sexual orientation or gender identity. While that's ****ed up, I don't think you hate the country. I think you're misguided though.

Despite our differences I do try and engage with you, but you make it difficult to have a sensible conversation sometimes. If you're right wing and love Trump, fine. But you take this act (I hope it's an act) to an outrageous degree well beyond any other poster here.

Do you genuinely believe America has no problems?


I agree it seems ****ed up.


But is there a justification for the ban?


Lets not pretend The Washington Post or Guardian are fair and balanced, they absolutely are not. They twist "narratives" all the time, if not by lies, then by omissions.



As far as I can tell from digging into the topic, it's specifically "gender dysphoria" that's the target. A legitimate medical condition.



Ok. Why? Did something happen to spark this?


Did Trump pull this out of his ass?


Did Trump come up with this at all? Or is he going with advisors.


Is it possible at all, that this could he justified?



It's impossible to say, because no details exist on the background of this policy. It's just something that seemed to spring up out of thin air.


That generally isn't how these things work. Policies are usually in response to something that happened.



An example: In a CT town, a Beach Association errected a fence in the middle of a beach, and initiated a "clean beach" fee. The media acted like they were completely unstable psychopaths. A judge ruled they had no right to charge a fee, no erect a fence.


Legally, they were in the wrong. The beach belonged to all.


But as for the reasons they did this.. Essentially, a bunch of kids from surrounding towns used it as a playground for sex, drugs, and booze. And they never cleaned up after themselves. The residents were stuck with the cleanup bill. They got sick of it, and put up the fence and started collecting fees so they didn't need to pay it with tax money.



While I don't agree with what they did, I can still sympathize with why they did it. The papers could have included this information, but with held it to make the beach organization look like unsympathetic assholes.



So I ask again, why did Trump do this terrible thing?

Originally posted by cdtm

So I ask again, why did Trump do this terrible thing?

I think one reason is that it plays well politically, one of the lines for the partisan divide has been that the Democrats treat Trans issues similar to Gay issues before it, and want acceptance in institutions for Trans people, choice of bathrooms, officials to respect pronoun choices, and access to healthcare including transition. On the other hand on the Republican side there is a constituency that views Trans people as immoral and would prefer if there are no accommodations for them and generally there is a desire to make Democrats lose in whatever way that is important to them (this often goes by the catchphrase "trigger the libs". So at least to me this seems more of a political decision than one that is important as a policy to Trump. i.e. it is something that political points can be scored with both on his side, and by upsetting his opposition. Trans people and their needs, I believe, have mostly become a play ball between the two parties.

Orange man baaaaad!!

Oh leftists... smh.

Originally posted by carthage
The US seems to exist in its own weird political ideological sphere. I feel like the modern DNC would largely be a center right party anywhere else in the Western/developed world. Yet our population is so dumbed down that entire segments of the population readily believed Obama was a socialist (he wasn't), and that aberrations like Sanders are part of some pipe dream Communist revolution. The "Left" by and large is mainly relegated to college school campuses, professionals, and grass roots organizations like BLM, Occupy wall st, i,e minority positions dedicated to grass roots change. I never got that its in tune with any major voting party. A true Leftist movement doesn't really exist in the United States IMO.


Somehow I missed this.

LOL@ the notion that modern day democrats sre center-right lmao. They're clearly on the left, just not as far left as crazies like AOC and Bernie Sanders. People like Rand Paul are center-right. Democrats ain't on the right lol.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Somehow I missed this.

LOL@ the notion that modern day democrats sre center-right lmao. They're clearly on the left, just not as far left as crazies like AOC and Bernie Sanders. People like Rand Paul are center-right. Democrats ain't on the right lol.


Yes Democrats are Right Wing.

They support the same wars as you Republicans, they dont support Medicare for all same as Republicans, both give tax breaks to the rich, both support the stock market over the working class. Both Obama and Trump have crazy deportation records.

The difference is mainly in rhetoric and aside from that its mainly in your head.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yes Democrats are Right Wing.

They support the same wars as you Republicans, they dont support Medicare for all same as Republicans, both give tax breaks to the rich, both support the stock market over the working class. Both Obama and Trump have crazy deportation records.

The difference is mainly in rhetoric and aside from that its mainly in your head.

Based post by Darth Thor.

And your point is made even better by the fact that you're not an American - it's exactly what it looks like to outsiders who are not part of the two-party tribal politics.

Originally posted by cdtm
I agree it seems ****ed up.

But is there a justification for the ban?

Keep in mind here, I'm talking about Star specifically. Legislation or no, he'd thinks the LGBT crowd doesn't belong in the armed forces.

It's the same guy that was surprised a gay Navy SEAL existed. Like I said, difficult sometimes to discuss things when there are soooo many layers of this to work through. It's exhausting if we're rehashing issues from like...the 90's before we can even get to today.

Originally posted by StyleTime
Keep in mind here, I'm talking about Star specifically. Legislation or no, he'd thinks the LGBT crowd doesn't belong in the armed forces.

It's the same guy that was surprised a gay Navy SEAL existed. Like I said, difficult sometimes to discuss things when there are soooo many layers of this to work through. It's exhausting if we're rehashing issues from like...the 90's before we can even get to today. Flystar, doesn't believe a thing he posts. All his characters are just for the lulz ST. I used to think they were socks by maybe Riv as the main account, now I think it's someone else, maybe Nuke or DDM. Probably someone else and distinct, regardless, the posts are just fun and tinfoil hatty ridiculous, no way Star is a real person. I would be truly proud if Star was a creation of mine, whoever it is created an awesome character. All the idiotsyncrasises, you think I mean idiotsyncrasises, honestly, idiot is what I mean. Genius stuff!